zantac Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Kaperoni’s thoughts #4 Clearing up some speculation The thought is that they must RV there currency to pay some large US companies…That is false. Iraq has a currency and it has limited tradability…Iraq’s National Investment law of 2006 allows the 100% repatriation of capital and profits made in Iraq, after taxes, fees, and other payments are made. So how does that work? Apparently, they have some banking arrangements with a certain number of international and regional banks. So to put an end to this myth…they do not have to rv to pay off vendors for material and equipment…the rate is 1170 to 1. Is it likely? maybe not and the current status seems to deter many companies from participation.. Only time will tell if they want to keep that rate or change it and have a truly international currency. What does that say for the new investor missions and a shopping exhibition? Again, if this law is in place, no change in currency is needed to do business in Iraq. What about the Chapter 7 restrictions? Clearly, those resolutions limit what Iraq can have. But it appears, they have “softened” the enforcement as many items are coming into Iraq that should not be. There has been no public announcement of lifting of chapter 7. WTO Status. Gov officials say it could be a year or two till we see Iraq as a full WTO member again. As well, they downplay the significance of the WTO in regard to international trade stating it’s charter is sole country to country disputes and they don’t anticipate that being an issue in a developing country mostly made up of private investment. So in other words, WTO means nothing in regard to selling and importing products into Iraq. So where are we? Quite frankly, I am at a cross roads. Many of the items we have been discussing in recent weeks seem to have no real impact on the RV. We still have the CBI’s own statements they plan to achieve this this (remove 3 zero’s) year, but we have no solid ground or supporting actives that would coincide and help move it along. To be honest, I don’t know if the rv will happen this year now. And it appears there is no one pushing it forward despite the world financial situation…it will happen at some point, and I believe that, but it now seems at it’s own pace and not by concurring actions or activities I now say today there is no way to predict a timeframe for this event. Read more: LINK Apparently, Medic took offense to this post and had this rebutal… ONE THING I GOT A PM TONIGHT FROM A MEMBER HE FORWARDED AN OPINION BY SOMEONE I NEVER HEARD OF EVER SAYING THAT IRAQ DOES NOT HAVE TO REVALUE BECAUSE OF THE 2006 INVESTMENT LAW THAT ALLOWS COMPANIES THAT COME INTO IRAQ TO REPATRIATE THEIR PROFITS HE ALSO CLAIMS BUT CAN’T JUSTIFY THAT INTERNATIONAL BANKS ARE TRADING DINAR OR EXCHANGING IT THE PART ABOUT INTERNATIONAL BANKS IS NOT TRUE AT ALL THERE ARE 70 COUNTRIES THAT DO TAKE THE DINAR IT IS A SWAP FOR GOODS BETWEEN THESE COUNTRIES THEY ARE ALL SMALL INSIGNIFICANT COUNTRIES NOT ONE MAJOR COUNTRY OF THE G20 OR G8 TAKE THE IQD YOU CANNOT TRANSFER IQD TO THE U.S. TO AN ACCOUNT AND THEN REPATRIATE IT IT IS ILLEGAL WHY BECAUSE THEY ARE ON OFAC ALSO THE ISX CANNOT TRADE INTERNATIONALLY WHY BECAUSE THE IQD IS NOT AN INTERNATIONAL CURRENCY THEY CAN ONLY WHEN IT IS DEEMED TRADE-ABLE ALSO THE REASON THAT GOODS ARE BROUGHT INTO IRAQ BY VENDORS AND I EXPLAINED THIS BEFORE THE GOI CONTROLS ALL REVENUES IT IS A SOCIALISTIC ECONOMY SAME AS CHINA OR NORTH KOREA THEY TAKE USD FROM OIL REVENUES AND PAY THE VENDORS TO IMPORT GOODS WHY IS THIS BECAUSE ANYTHING THE GOI BRINGS IN THAT IS NOT UNDER THE DFI CAN BE GARNISHED THERE IS ONLY ONE COUNTRY THAT WILL NOT ALLOW A LIEN OR GARNISHMENT TO BE ENFORCED WHAT IS THAT COUNTRY chloe says to (01:47:01): usa MED says to (01:47:05): YES THAT IS WHY WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE 10 AIRPLANES FROM CANADA WHAT HAPPENED KUWAIT DID WHAT cool says to (01:47:40): sued them chloe says to (01:47:41): impounded them irishbrian says to (01:47:42): Kuwait went after them MED says to (01:47:45): YES AND WHEN THE IRAQI AIRLINE LANDED IN THE UK WHAT HAPPENED cool says to (01:48:11): they held it MED says to (01:48:37): AND TOOK IT BUT IRAQ BECAUSE OF THE IMF LOANS AND AGREEMENT HAVE TO CHANGE TO WHAT KIND OF ECONOMY irishbrian says to (01:49:03): Free market muddy54 says to (01:49:07): free market cool says to (01:49:10): yes MED says to (01:49:10): YES GREAT THAT MEANS THAT NO MORE SUBSIDIES BY THE GOVT THE REVENUES NO LONGER WILL GO TO THE GOVT TO BE GIVEN TO THE VENDORS THEY WON’T HAVE THEM IT WILL BE UP TO THE VENDORS AND BUSINESS’S TO BRING IN GOODS ON THEIR OWN GO ONLINE LIKE WE DO): LET’S SAY EBAY AND ORDER SOMETHING WITH THE DINAR cool says to (01:50:44): no chloe says to (01:50:46): no MED says to (01:50:50): EXACTLY WHY IS THAT not tradeable EXACTLY chloe says to (01:51:06): not tradeable or accepted MED says to (01:51:16): ALSO NO MAJOR ECONOMIC POWER IN THE WORLD DOES NOT HAVE WHAT? irishbrian says to (01:51:41): Tradeable currency MED says to (01:51:44): YES muddy54 says to (01:51:45): not an internationally recognized currency MED says to (01:51:53): CORRECT ALSO FOR IRAQ TO ENTER THE WTO DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE A RECOGNIZED GLOBAL CURRENCY TO TRADE cool says to (01:52:22): yes MED says to (01:52:26): EXACTLY NOW UNDER ARTICLE VIII OF THE IMF DOES IRAQ NEED TO HAVE A TRADEABLE CURRENCY cool says to (01:52:52): yes chloe says to (01:52:54): yes muddy54 says to (01:52:54): yes they do MED says to (01:53:19):EXACTLY SO THIS GUY CAN KISS MY RED WHITE AND BLUE ARSS TY Well, Medic is wrong….And the fine work from Miskebam proved it! I want to gloat now while i eat a big fat slice of pepperoni and mushroom pizza! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitedrich Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 OK guys, 2 pistols, 10 paces, and on the count of 3........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zantac Posted July 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) OK guys, 2 pistols, 10 paces, and on the count of 3........ Will that be Franks 1.................2.............3 If so they will be to far apart to shoot, better include some sights to aid the distance Edited July 9, 2010 by zantac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denbo420 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 OK guys, 2 pistols, 10 paces, and on the count of 3........ lets pray their both good shots! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckerron49 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 One seems to quote the law, the other, the way things appear to be done. I guess if neither of them are in big business trying to do business with Iraq, then we still don't know which of them is correct. I don't feel that this post and subsequent rebuttal moved me forwarde in my knowledge of current events at all....... JMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC1970 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 RIPLEY'S BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!!!!!........I FEEL LIKE 'VINNIE BARBERINO' FROM WELCOME BACK KOTTER...... ."I'M SO CONFUSED"!! ......... I STILL HAVE FAITH..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Short6 Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 OK! give them both a Wedgy and lets carry on! I think they both have made their arguements and both seem to have some merits, Only time will reveal who is corect! So, please both continue to post! All perspectives are needed! The dedicated Peeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmanak47 Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Sometimes I wonder why I bother. If someone says something, the other does not like it reminds me of two fourteen year old girls scratching at one another. Disgusted Madman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Well, Medic is wrong….And the fine work from Miskebam proved it! I want to gloat now while i eat a big fat slice of pepperoni and mushroom pizza! [/size] Who is Miskebam!!!! Where is the proof!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METEMARLO Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 the law makes it legal to invest dosent gaurantee the toilet paper will cash out!!!!!! The iraqi employees that are assigned to this site by the cbi will continue to try to de bunk you hopefully your smarter than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerplayer Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 As sad as this sounds, it almost looks like Med wants to crush the opposition he has on the monopoly strangle hold he has on his followers. The man is Intelligent I believe,but so full of himself he honestly believes what he is saying. I occasionally read his posts and so far, and I may be wrong, he has never once been correct. I applaud the people who believe in him as who the heck am I to challenge him? I believe in Chief and bigfoot68, others believe in Med. To each his own. JMHO, pp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hello, has everyone forgotten about Chapter 7? http://www.iamb.info/pdf/unscr1905.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METEMARLO Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 OK THEY GIVE YOU IRAQI MONEY THEN YOU HAVE TO SEARCH AND BARGAIN TO CHANGE TO US DOLLARS IF THEY DONT PAY YOU WITH US DOLLARS WHO HAS TIME FOR THIS BS.GIVE ME A TRADABLE CURRENCY GOOD TO THE BANK AND LETS GO FROM THERE. OR PAY ME IN GOLD YOUR CHOICE!!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deenar Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Not much of a rebuttal. Both are clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 the responces were more entertaining and imformative than the original post!!!....lol....thanks all....some good laughs here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard57 Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 OK, here we go - Dueling Chat Logs. Can I have a little banjo here . . . . Maynard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyb25 Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 This totally blows Sonnys info with GE out of the water so I have to go with Medic. I believe Sonnys source is telling the truth about GE holding out until a recongizabe currency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waitn Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 question anyone eating shrooms???? There is no proof of either part there. We just have to see how this plays out in these next 2 to 3 weeks. There are a few ways for this to go down obviously, as with any investment it could easily go south for all of us. However, if Iraq seats the right people with the right intentions we will all be very rich. This is Iraq, they do not think like us westerns... that is the only FACT that we all can take to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
financeminister Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Medic is a moron and kaperoni knows less about this Dinar than Michael Jackson knows about falling asleep. So, where does that leave us with these two? I wouldn't give a plug nickel to have these guys give me information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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