Abadi initiative provides for the application of Article 140 after the completion of the liberation of Mosul

[yota691]

Hakim: We have heard the Kurds for proposals on Article 140 of the United Nations adopts a political initiative Saturday 08 April 2017 | 13:49 Search head of the National Alliance Ammar al ­ Hakim in separate meetings with the representative of the United Nations , Jan Kubiš Kurdish delegation, shared files between Baghdad and Arbil , and the support of the United Nations initiative for a political settlement. Hakim said office, in a statement, said that " the President of the National Alliance , Ammar al ­ Hakim, I receive Thursday (last), in his office in Baghdad, the Kurdistan region delegation headed by Fadhil Mirani" .obges Hakim with the delegation , " the battle against Daesh and sustain the unity of military forces between the Iraqi army and popular crowd and the Peshmerga and the tribes to continue to victories in Nineveh, and to achieve security and political stability. " And it has also been discussed in several files on " the relationship between the Federal Government and the Government of the Territory and the application of Article 140 of the Constitution and the question of the referendum, as the issues of administrative, legal and legislative nature to address and emphasize the intensification of the constructive dialogue between Baghdad and Erbil on the one hand and between the Kurdish parties in the region on the other hand" . Alliance delegation headed by Ammar al ­ Hakim "also listened to the proposals of the Kurdish delegation to activate Article 140 of the Constitution to achieve more stability and address the consequences resulting from the non ­ application of this Article." On the other hand, look wise with the representative of the Secretary ­ General of the United Nations , the UN organization moves to support the political settlement process in the country. Hakim said office, in a statement, "Tomorrow 's Press" today received a copy of it, that "Ammar al ­ Hakim , head of the National Alliance , received in his office in Baghdad Thursday (last) representative of the Secretary ­ General of the United Nations in Iraq , Jan Kubis." The search Hakim with Kubis "UN efforts in support of the national reconciliation process , " stressing " the importance to be settlement guarantees and assurances and mutual concessions between the political forces , " noting " the importance of the settlement in the post Daesh to save Iraq from division or internal fighting" .ojadded Hakim his assertion that " the settlement and that was the product of a long phase within the National Alliance of research , but it is still the focus of discussion and space adjustment are available under the ceiling of the law and the Constitution", pointing out the need to "enjoy the settlement supported by the UN organization and defend it as sponsors and sponsors for it." For his part, Kubis said to support the national reconciliation process in Iraq, noting that the UN organization is seeking cooperation with the leaders of Iraq, led by the National Alliance to find a treatment solution to the crisis that has plagued Iraq.

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[ChuckFinley]

59 minutes ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

, and that coming from the Kurds!!

[10 YEARS LATER]

1 hour ago, ChuckFinley said:

, and that coming from the Kurds!!

Never thought I would hear it or see the day the Kurds in this positive manner - Surprised to say the least, however pleased the timeline for self determination is being accelerated.

 

[bkeiller]

The Kurds might be providing a push we have been waiting for?

[nannab]

This is certainly different hearing positive proposals from the Kurds. Maybe they finally came to their senses! 

YOU GO KURDISH LEADERS  Thank ya Yota !

[yota691]

The Kurdistan flag flies in Kirkuk amid renewed referendum talk, so what now?

4/6/2017 10:05:00 AM

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In the past several weeks, the Kirkuk Provincial Council and the major Kurdish political parties seem to have revived the long-stagnant Article 140 process. Last month, the Kirkuk Provincial Council passed a resolution to fly the Kurdistan flag from Kirkuk’s official buildings and on Monday (April 2), just after the Iraqi Parliament annulled the measure, the Provincial Council passed another resolution calling for Iraq’s parliament to hold a referendum under Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution, a move that Provincial Council President, Rebwar Talabani, called a “last chance” for Baghdad to implement the Article. This resolution was followed by an official visit of a joint KDP-PUK delegation to Baghdad to negotiate a referendum on the independence of the Kurdistan Regional with the federal government on Tuesday (April 3). While these events inspire hope for territorial unity, and perhaps independence, they raise an important question: Can the KRG and Iraqi federal government commit to holding an honest and fair referendum? Or have the Kurdish elites already decided that the unity and independence of the Kurdish-inhabited territories of Iraq is inevitable, regardless of the outcome of the constitutional processes?

There is enough blame to go around for lack of progress on Article 140. The Article and its annex, Article 58 of the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL), are sufficiently vague to render it impractical for resolving Iraq’s territorial disputes. Both are silent as to whether referenda should be conducted at the provincial, district or sub-district level; a decision that could greatly impact the fate of small populations of territorially-concentrated Kurds and other minorities in the Arab-majority provinces. Aside from Kirkuk, the other disputed territories are not mentioned specifically. In addition to a sloppily written constitution, Kurdish partisan rivalries, the war against ISIS, and the dissolution of the KRG’s Parliament have also impeded efforts to fully execute the article’s terms. However, the most important reason for Article 140’s failure has been that neither Baghdad nor the KRG can fully commit to it.

Contributing to the failure of commitment has been the difficulty of determining their original demographic composition due to shifting provincial borders, the insufficiency of past census data and the Arabization of those areas under the Ba’ath regime, and most recently, the influx of Arab refugees into the disputed territories. While the KRG accuses the federal government of continuing to manipulate the demographic composition of these areas, the ethnic Turkman, Arab, Yazidi and Christian communities of Nineveh, Kirkuk and Diyala counter that the KRG is engaging in its own demographic manipulations to influence the outcome of elections and the referenda on their status. Whether this is true or not, Kurdish officials have maintained that the areas under their administrative control are historically Kurdish lands. Thus, while the Kurdistan Region has, and continues to, reaffirm the need to carry out the normalization-census-referendum processes stipulated in Article 140, KRG officials have stated repeatedly and unequivocally, both formally and informally, that they are unwilling to relinquish control of territories in Diyala, Nineveh and Kirkuk provinces that lie outside of the KRG proper. Given these facts, it is fair to question whether the KRG would honor the results of a referendum if they contravened the Region’s territorial claims and required that its authorities withdraw from areas it currently administers, or if a referendum can even be held given the problematic normalization process. Indeed, Kirkuk’s resolution to officially raise the Kurdish flag signified that the KRG considers the accession of Kirkuk to be a non-negotiable fait accompli: Kirkuk is Kurdish regardless of the outcome of a census or referendum.

Frustration with the lack of progress on the normalization, census and referendum processes, which were due to be completed nearly ten years ago, has led to the growing consensus among Kurds that the status of Kirkuk or the question of its demographic composition will never be determined constitutionally and therefore, its accession to the KRG must be assured by other means, up to and including a unilaterally declared referendum on the status and independence of the Kurdish-inhabited territories. Therefore, while it is unclear if the resolution of the Kirkuk Provincial Council this week will be recognized by the Iraqi government as legally binding, it presents an ultimatum: if Baghdad does not adhere to its long-overdue Constitutional obligations, the Provincial Council and the KRG will be justified in taking extra-constitutional action to ensure Kirkuk’s, and the other territories’, unification with the Region.

While the recent activity in the Provincial Council has renewed hope that Kurdistan will be united, it is also important that the Kurdish elites be honest about their political goals. If the Kirkuk Provincial Council or the KRG get the referendum they ask for, they must accept the results. If there is a chance that they cannot accept these results for whatever reason, the KRG must approach Baghdad to divide territory in such a way to avoid future conflict and resolve potential economic quarrels. Under such circumstances, the intractability of the territorial disputes between the KRG and the federal government will require an unusually creative solution to avoid future conflict, one that may be elusive to the parties. 

[presence]

Thanks for this late night post. There certainly seems to be a lot of simultaneous progress and activity between this thread, the recovery of $70+Bb  of stolen funds, the new pipeline and the oil presently enroute to Russia, the nearly complete elimination of the dasholes, the observation of MasterCard and Bloomberg showing IQD rates and references (which we hope will go up asap), the visit from the U.S. Congress group, and the meetings referenced above.

One thing is certain, a lot of high level people in Iraq got used to living a certain life-style through corruption and theft, and that is being heavily suppressed, which means they will have to cooperate and get along and play nice if they want to maintain that lifestyle through legitimate means. GO RV and do it now!!!

 

 

[yota691]

Deputy party accuses Talabani and Barzani using the referendum to cover the "failing"

 

Tuesday April 11, 2017 13:28

 

Alsumaria News / Baghdad He accused the MP for the mass of Kurdish change Hoshyar Abdullah, on Tuesday, the KDP and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan using the referendum to cover "a serious failing", stressing that the important files and strategic issues must be discussed by the Iraqi state institutions with constitutional institutions in the region and not during the dialogues between the parties and statesmen.     Abdullah said at a press conference held in the parliament building and attended by Alsumaria News, he said that "the KDP delegation and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, who visited Baghdad recently held meetings with representatives of the three presidencies of government officials on the issue of the referendum in the Kurdistan region does not represent the people of the Territory in any way" , adding that "a party delegation included people representing their parties only."   Abdullah added that "the only official representative of the Kurdish people and speak in their name is the only parliament region, which is currently disabled the decision of my party and personal", pointing out that "the question of the referendum will remain a claim partisan purely pending discussion within the Parliament of the region and decision, on the grounds that Parliament Territory constitutional institution reflect the will of the people of Kurdistan. "   He explained that "the two parties used the referendum to cover failing miserably at all levels, which Imbedded used resonant to distract the masses claim their national slogans," he said, adding that "records the threshold presidents, ministers and deputies because of their meeting with members of the party delegation, their names and their attributes."   He said Abdullah, it was "shameful search important files and strategic issues between the parties and statesmen, which must be examined by the Iraqi state institutions with constitutional institutions in the region," and wondered, saying, "How long we keep striding in this long trend is right and when we will turn to negotiate Qalbh confined to party relations to a national institutional process of respectable? ".   A delegation from the Kurdistan region visited Baghdad, on Wednesday (April 5, 2017), and held meetings with President Fuad Masum and Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and head of the National Alliance, Ammar al-Hakim, and Parliament Speaker Salim al-Jubouri, the delegation discussed relations between the two sides and the situation in Kirkuk.

[yota691]

senior meeting of the two parties Alkordian in Arbil to discuss the referendum

 

 

 

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Twilight News / The two parties held Alkordian presidents in the Kurdistan Region meeting to discuss the issue of holding a referendum on the independence of the province. 
The meeting was held at the headquarters of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan in Irbil. 
The meeting was attended by Massoud Barzani , head of the Democratic Party and the President of the Kurdistan Region, Nechirvan Barzani , deputy leader of the party membership Barzani happy, and Hoshyar Zebari, Rose Nuri Shaways, Fadhil Mirani, and other leaders, as was attended by the Union , both Rasool and Mullah Bakhtiar, Adnan Mufti, Omar Fattah and capable of others . 
It is scheduled to discuss the issue of the meeting to hold a referendum to resolve the current political problems in the region.

[yota691]

Electoral Commission Bkordstan declares its position to hold a referendum of independence

 

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Twilight News / announced that the Kurdistan Regional Elections Commission, the readiness to hold the referendum and elections during the current year, noting that the demand to hold elections within the President of the provincial authorities no need to pass a resolution of the blocking of the Kurdistan Parliament nearly two years ago. 
President of the Commission, Hendrin Mohammed stressed that "UNHCR has handed over at the forefront of its priorities to hold parliamentary elections in the region end of this year, through a plan and a program established following the allocation of a budget by the Government of the Territory." 
And the validity of the elections, Mohammed said , "according to the law, the President of the Region is entitled under his powers, demanding the Electoral Commission to conduct the elections." 
He explained that " the Commission has completed all the administrative preparations required and when we asked us to hold the elections , " noting that " the Commission can hold the referendum alongside the election, because the referendum is easier than elections, and does not need a big budget." 
A delegation from the Kurdistan Region, visited the Iraqi capital last week and held meetings with political and government leadership to discuss the referendum on self - determination as a step towards full independence of Kurdistan from Iraq.

[yota691]

Kurdistan move all parties to rally support for independence referendum

 

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Twilight News / Kurdistan accelerate steps to invest in the current domestic and international conditions, to speed up the referendum on self - determination for the Territory, by moving towards the international community to ensure support. 
In this context, the Kurdistan government called for the world to support the project for a referendum to achieve independence from Iraq. 
Rose said Nuri Shaways , leader of the Democratic Party and a member of the committee charged with examining the subject of the referendum, told reporters in Arbil, said that the province asked the representatives of diplomatic missions accredited has to provide support to the region for a self - determination referendum this year. 
"When we say to the representatives of major countries in the region, we'll referendum our goal of it to achieve independence, this is evidence of a serious approach to the independence of the Kurdistan Region, ablution means going to pray, and the referendum is the goal of a single, independence." 
" We made it clear diplomatic missions our decision to conduct a referendum, and how thevote, and asked them to express their support for the vote, as a natural right of the people of Kurdistan, like any other people, and also invited them to send their observers to monitor the referendum process and to make sure do you take place in accordance with the laws and procedures have." 
On the meeting with foreign missions, said a member of the Political Bureau and the leader of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, Hoshyar Zebari, "If you ask the provincial councils in Kirkuk or in any area of the disputed areas to conduct a referendum in their cities, it will certainly, we respect the opinion of these councils." 
The Turkmen officials and followers of Christian Aldiagnh declared their support for the referendum. 
The representatives of the Government of the Territory held a meeting with representatives of Arab and foreign diplomatic missions in the region to put forward movements on the issue of the referendum on the territory 's independence from Iraq. 
The moves come after a meeting was held last Sunday, between the Democratic Party and the National Union, headed by Massoud Barzani , to study the findings of the joint Vdahma , who visited Baghdad last week and met with political and governmental leadership to raise the issue of science and Kirkuk referendum.

[yota691]

Detection visit a new Kordestani delegation to Baghdad

 

 

 

Politician  Number of readings: 56 04/12/2017 11:59

 

Revealed the leadership of the Kurdistan Democratic Party Ashwaq dry, Wednesday, for a planned visit by a delegation representing all Kurdish parties to Baghdad, as explained that the delegation will focus the discussion on the issue of a referendum of independence of the Kurdistan region, he indicated that the Kurdish delegation that visited Baghdad agreed to calm the situation.

She dry in a press statement that "there is a planned visit by a delegation representing all Kurdish parties to Baghdad again," indicating that "the delegation will focus the debate on the question of the independence referendum of the Kurdistan region."

She explained the leadership of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, said that "the Kurdish delegation that visited Baghdad agreed that the calm situation and that the House's decision was urgent and therefore it needs to be revisited through a formula agreed upon by the two governments and then voted on by the House of Representatives."

She continued dry, "it was agreed during the visit of the delegation to remove the obstacles that prevent the application of Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution on the disputed areas."

The Kurdistan Democratic Party has revealed, on Tuesday, the choice of former Finance Minister, Hoshyar Zebari, head of the Referendum Commission of the Kurdistan region, and while that explained the referendum region file has been put forward during the visit of the delegation of Kurdistan to Baghdad, a legal right, he noted that the Referendum Commission will include all Kurdish parties .

[235snack]

PUSH that Article 140......PUSH it through.

[MyLadiesDaddy]

[Officiallytook]

On 4/8/2017 at 9:35 AM, ladyGrace'sDaddy said:

 

On 4/8/2017 at 10:35 AM, ChuckFinley said:

, and that coming from the Kurds!!

[SnowGlobe7]

On 4/12/2017 at 7:41 AM, 235snack said:

PUSH that Article 140......PUSH it through.

 

[ChuckFinley]

I would like to know what Adams is thinking about everything that is taking place?  

[yota691]

Chairman of the parliamentary bloc: the application of Article 140 resulting in demographic change

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The head of the Rafidain bloc in the House of Representatives Kanna, Sunday, that Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution is representing the political policies of the former regime in the demographic change for cities, calling for the development of sustainable solutions to the disputed areas.

He said we were, for / scales News /, said that "Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution, which is the same as Article 58 of the Transitional Administrative Law, came because of political former regime that targeted many areas in the context of demographic change and the identities of the components and determine the near region borders areas." .

He added that "has been put forward the request of the Governing Council that there is a specific article political regime to remove, and after the adoption of a permanent constitution and abolished the law of the State Administration except Article 140, which has become 58 and is considered to restore and patrolled the ownership of the areas of the thrill of the province and those, re-people the original of their areas, "persisting" but the implementation of that article scheduled on 30 December 2017, due to the security situation. "

He stressed we were, on the need to "develop sustainable solutions to those areas," he said. "We are waiting for the end of the Daesh militarily and then go back and we are committed to the road map, which says Baghdad and Erbil address, if you can not international Fmgm Mahaad and could not the United Nations" .anthy 29 / A 43

[ChuckFinley]

Thanks Yota, at least it sounds like they intend to move forward. We will just have to wait and see.  

[Big_J]

3 hours ago, yota691 said:

Article 140 of the Iraqi Constitution, which is the same as Article 58

[DoD]

4 hours ago, yota691 said:

Chairman of the parliamentary bloc: the application of Article 140 resulting in demographic change

I'm thinking this is why the Kurds are in such a good mood now days. Implementing Article 140 is probably the trade off for the signing of the HCL in the behind closed doors meetings.

Kurdistan needs to hurry up and hold elections to rid them of some of their corrupt officials just like the GOI did, it's my understanding that the majority of the Kurds are not in favor of independence from Iraq....

[ChuckFinley]

On April 16, 2017 at 11:25 AM, DoD said:

I'm thinking this is why the Kurds are in such a good mood now days. Implementing Article 140 is probably the trade off for the signing of the HCL in the behind closed doors meetings.

Kurdistan needs to hurry up and hold elections to rid them of some of their corrupt officials just like the GOI did, it's my understanding that the majority of the Kurds are not in favor of independence from Iraq....

You are right there.  

[DinarThug]

CNN. Broadcasting The Best Iron Clad Way To Assure That The Loser Daesh-holes Won't Ever Return !

 

 

 

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Barzani, the party declares the application of Article "140" on the areas liberated by the Peshmerga

Journal June 4, 2017

 

 

 

Erbil - News Journal

The Kurdistan Democratic Party led by the region's president, Massoud Barzani, the application of Article 140 to the areas liberated by the Peshmerga forces from the terrorist organization Daesh said.

The MP said the party Princess Karim Zangana told the «Journal News», on Sunday that "the Peshmerga forces provided martyrs in the battles fought with al Daesh in Mosul and can not withdraw from the areas liberated by or delivered to any destination."

She noted that "the Democratic Party has no problem with the popular crowd, but we do not accept that approaching the liberated areas by the Peshmerga," the Opening of that "areas freed in Mosul by the Peshmerga will not withdraw from it was annexed to the Kurdistan region."

The President of the Kurdistan region, Massoud Barzani, said earlier that the Peshmerga forces will not withdraw from the areas liberated, which has taken them a line of defense before embarking on the process of editing the city of Mosul, pointing out that this matter is not subject never to discuss the Peshmerga will remain in those areas.

He accused the MP for a coalition of state law Mohammed Chihod, Massoud Barzani , of conspiring to Mosul and handed over to the terrorist to Daesh accounts for its territory and abandons its sons. 
He Chihod in a statement that the ruling family is illegal in the region one of the most important pillars of the project conspiratory on Iraq and its people, a recognized Mosul to Daesh terrorist and does not want to liberate the city from the influence of those gangs in order to pass its divisive and expand the people of Mosul account, noting that this family crisis conjures up with the federal government in order to export its internal problems , especially that Barzani acquired power and did not comply with the will of the Kurdish people and thus is distracting Kurdish parties want his problems contrived.

http://www.aljournal.com/link

 

[davis411]

What's a daesh hole

do I have one