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Trump administration thanks infallible and open up the doors of Iraq 's cooperation and the fight against terrorism

Trump administration thanks infallible and open up the doors of Iraq's cooperation and the fight against terrorism

 

    
 
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Twilight News / confirmed the US administration to support Iraq in the field of combating terrorism and freeing cities from the grip of the organization Daesh. 
This came during a meeting with President Fuad Masum Wednesday morning 25/01/2017 at the Peace Palace in Baghdad , US Ambassador Douglas Silliman, according to a statement for the presidency of the Twilight News reported. 
The statement added that President infallible received Acknowledgement US administration on a telegram of congratulations he had sent to the United States President Donald Trump on the occasion of his accession to his duties, and the confirmation of the administration to continue and strengthen the close ties between the two countries especially in the field of fighting Daesh of terrorism and eliminate it and edit all cities The Iraqi villages of it. 
The statement noted that it was stressed that the victories of the Iraqi forces to facilitate the complete eradication of Daesh and help to reach the desired stability and the return of all displaced people to their homes. 
In this regard , the ambassador stressed his country's keenness on providing support and backing for the Iraq military to combat effort and the requirements necessary for the displaced and their return. 
Through the President 's thanks to Iraq receives from the award by the United States and the international coalition and friends in the fight against terrorism , adding that the victories achieved on Daesh help not only Iraq, but the general international community to get rid of the threat of terrorism and its expansion.

 

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US administration: the great victories in Mosul facilitate the elimination of Daesh
{Baghdad} Euphrates News said the US administration, that the great victories achieved by the security forces in the northern city of Mosul to facilitate the elimination of the final Daesh.
According to a presidential statement received by the agency {Euphrates News}, a copy of it, that the president Fuad Masum "received at the Peace Palace in Baghdad , the US ambassador in Baghdad Douglas Silliman, and received Acknowledgement US administration on a telegram of congratulations he had sent to the United States President Donald Trump, on the occasion of his accession to his duties, and confirmation of the administration to continue and strengthen the close ties between the two countries especially in the field of combating terrorist Daesh and eliminate it and edit all Iraqi cities and villages of it. " 
He added, "As the president has received congratulations for the great victories achieved by our armed forces in various formations in combat operations against Daesh in Mosul, where it was stressed that these victories make it easier to completely eliminate Daesh and help in reaching the desired stability and the return of all displaced people to their homes." 
The ambassador, according to the statement, "his country's keenness on providing support and support for Iraq 's military and combat the effort and the requirements necessary for the displaced and their return." 
For his part , President of the Republic , "thanked Iraq for receives from the base by the United States and the international coalition and friends in the fight against terrorism," adding that " the victories achieved on Daesh help not only Iraq but the general international community to get rid of the threat of terrorism and its expansion." according to a statement. 
The statement continued, as "During the meeting , a detailed review of the relations between the two friendly countries in various fields and the possibility of enhancing cooperation between them" .anthy
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01/25/2017 (00:01 pm)   -   the number of readings: 693   -   thenumber (3835)
 
 
Abadi announce the complete liberation left coast: Trump promised to double support to Iraq



 BAGHDAD / long-Presse 
 

Revealed Prime Minister Haider al - Abadi, on Tuesday, all messages received from US President Trump 's management confirms doubling of support to Iraq and not only its continuation. 
As announced completion of editing the left side of Mosul, confirmed an investigation into the cause of the arrest of persons of Tarmiyah and another in the case of abuses in areas of Fallujah and Alsjr and Saqlawiyah. 
Ebadi said in a press conference held at the Government Palace and attended by (long - Presse): "rush Bushra edit the left side completely and call on the heroes of the security forces to move toward freeing the rest of the province of Nineveh." 
The announcement came edit the left side of the connector, after more than 90 days to the start of operations (coming, Nineveh). After the start of Mosul operations, Ebadi has repeatedly stressed the ability to edit all regions of Mosul by the end of 2016. 
The prime minister added that " the elements Daesh cut off electricity to the left side and we will find another way to provide this side electricity , " pointing to " the signing of 27 memo to rebuild the various projects in Mosul liberated areas. " 
Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces said that "security forces proved to edit the left coast of Mosul worth and humanity in dealing with the citizens , " stressing that "security forces have every expectation about Daesh gangs terrorist methods." 
In a related context, he said the prime minister that " the Council of Ministers the face of the provision of services to citizens to compel the governor and members of the President of the Council to provide services to citizens, and decided to terminate the alternative sites in all regions of Iraq, while authorized the Minister of Finance to sell securities." 
Abadi stressed that " the international community grasped the seriousness of terrorism, and Iraq got substantial assistance from the international community," adding that "Iraq needs the cooperation of the citizens to inform the security forces about any suspicious movements carried out by Daesh terrorist gangs." 
He noted the prime minister that "Iraq 's power comes from the people , " warning of "terrorist gangs do Daesh rhythm largest possible number of civilians through terrorist Tvjerathm." 
He Abadi hope constantly international support for Iraq, and said that " the US President Trump assured us to increase support at all levels, including the financial Alhanb , " pointing out that "Trump Administration sent letters to double US support for Iraq and not a continuation of all." 
He pointed to the Prime Minister that "there are international and regional efforts to support Iraq, because the international community grasped the seriousness of terrorism." 
He greeted Prime Minister and media channels for its efforts to support the victory of the security forces. 
Abadi went on to say "we are seeing a decline in recruiting and financing Daesh , " noting that "will Daesh terrorist acts in the country and call on citizens to cooperate with security agencies and vigilance." 
He stressed that "our security forces in all its factions will not go beyond the territory of Iraq and its operations to protect the country will be inside Iraqi territory." 
He said the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces that "TARMIYA process were limited military operation involving a faction of the popular crowd , " pointing to "open an investigation because the subject Baghdad Operations Command , he should know the subject." 
And the prime minister , "read the report on the excesses committed in Saqlawiyah and Alsjr, Fallujah, in which the accused and one person was interrogated which is currently among the judiciary , " pointing out that "people affected certificates were contradictory." 
In another context, the Prime Minister denied knowing about the news from the sale of oil fields of Kurdistan to Turkey, he said , " have not yet seen any documents in this matter, the Constitution explicitly that the oil belongs to the Iraqi people."

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Abadi tells Trump Iraq’s oil is for Iraqis and no one else
“We are fighting ISIS on the ground therefore we certainly welcome any help and hope that president Trump will stand by us on this.” said Iraqi PM Abadi. Official photo

BAGHDAD, Iraq—In response to a statement by the US president that America should have kept Iraq’s oil for its sacrifices in 2003, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi says that any such remark is unacceptable and that Iraq’s oil belongs to Iraqis only.

 

“I have asked others too, but we don’t know yet what he means by that,” Abadi told reporters on Tuesday. “Did he mean in 2003 or that ISIS should not take Iraq’s oil, or what. It is not clear to us yet.”

 

“But Iraq’s oil is for Iraqis and any statement contradicting that is unacceptable,” he added.

 

Speaking to members of the US intelligence community this week, US President Donald Trump said: “To the victor belong the spoils,”

 

"So we should have kept the oil," Trump said. "But, OK, maybe you'll have another chance."

 

Explaining Trump’s comments, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said: "We want to be sure our interests are protected," he told reporters. "We're going into a country for a cause. He wants to be sure America is getting something out of it for the commitment and sacrifice it is making."

 

Abadi said meanwhile that he hoped the new Trump administration will help Iraq in its fight against terrorism, rejecting the notion that terrorism is something only carried out by Muslims.

 

“We don’t have a radical Islam and a non-radical Islam, Islam is one.” Abadi said. “But some abuse it. Islam is against killings and bloodshed in the first place. Terrorism is not a label for Islamic groups only. In Japan, Germany, Africa and former Yugoslavia they have had terrorist organizations in the past.

 

“We are fighting ISIS on the ground therefore we certainly welcome any help and hope that president Trump will stand by us on this.”

 

The Iraqi prime minister also warned against Trump’s plan to move the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, saying it will cause serious problems.

 

“Jerusalem is occupied and international law says that you cannot take over or build in occupied lands,” said Abadi.

 

“The new American administration must open doors of cooperation with countries in the region,” he suggested. “Moving the embassy to Jerusalem will cause serious problems. It is wrong to antagonize the Palestinians. It is their home and land. And also wrong to antagonize Arabs and Muslims.”

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So lets ask ourselves what would Iraq be like now if Trump was president instead of Obama for the last 8 years.

We the USA would have controlled the oil and use the money to install electricity, schools, police, national guard, military with tanks and jets as needed and used what was left over in America.

And the damn RV of the Iraq currency would have been done long ago.

There would be no Isis in Iraq, there would be no Iranian militias in Iraq, the only thing we would have had to deal with is Sadar but he would have been short work.

Everything Maliki did and caused like the secrete prisons and the relentless killing of Sunni wouldn't have happened.

15 minutes ago, yota691 said:

“We don’t have a radical Islam and a non-radical Islam, Islam is one.” Abadi said. “But some abuse it.

I am sorry but  they do far more then abuse it which is why a new description was need which is radical Islam get used to it.

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Yes hind site is easy but sometimes hind site helps you figure out what to do in the future.

11 minutes ago, MillieChatham said:

Let's us hope for the best and try to be positive.

I dont think we need hope any more we need a kick ass attitude we are tired of playing. And trust me im as positive as i can get.

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I don't believe for one minute that they are going to keep all of the oil in Iraq. Their whole economy is almost entirely based on the oil they produce. Since the middle east does not use hardly any of the oil they produce it is ridiculous to believe they will not export oil for profit. They sure as heck won't be feeding it to the camels.

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Don't get me wrong I really dig DJT, he's going to do great things for us, he's clearly a doer and likes winning, we the American people will benefit from his presidency. But taking resources from another county isn't that a war crime according to the Geneva convention?

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Yota Thanks,  DV,  President DJT is sending PM Abadi a direct coded message it is time Iraq return to the Global Markets & International Stage in a "BIG WAY".  After the Liberation of Mosul release the RV / RI and ya better get that darn Oil & Gas Law approved and voted because it's on so no more darn excuses.   "Make Iraq Great Again For Your People"

Always Keeping The Faith!!

GO RV!!

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56 minutes ago, Officiallytook said:

I'm thinking they mean the profits are for Iraqi people, that they are going to keep and distribute to themselves

No I think he means the Oil and all its profits are for the corrupted officials that currently control all the power and intend to do so until they are removed from power. Otherwise, HCL would have been implemented in 2015, or in 2016 and progress would have been made by now.

 

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Want to “take the oil”? Crunch the numbers first

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2017/01/25/want-to-take-the-oil-crunch-the-numbers-first/

Kenneth M. Pollack Wednesday, January 25, 2017

 

I had assumed that Mr. Trump’s assertion on the campaign trail that the United States should have taken and kept Iraq’s oil was nothing but electioneering. The fact that he has repeated it as president suggests that he may actually believe it’s a good idea.

Just for the sake of argument, let’s set aside the fact that doing so would be illegal, immoral, and strategically disastrous. There’s actually a simpler reason to forget this idea: it would be a terrible financial move.

Until science fiction movies become reality, the United States has no ability to somehow “take” all of Iraq’s oil (143 billion barrels, according to the U.S. Energy Information Agency) and move it to the United States in one fell swoop. We can’t suck it up and fly it back to New Jersey. So in reality, “taking” Iraqi oil means occupying Iraq, pumping its oil the way that the Iraqis have, selling it on the international market, and keeping the revenues for ourselves.

There’s actually a simpler reason to forget this idea: it would be a terrible financial move.

To repeat: pumping Iraq’s oil for ourselves means militarily occupying Iraq. Most of Iraq’s oil is located in southern and northern Iraq so we would not have to occupy the entire country (which would require a commitment of about 500,000 troops). Nevertheless, just occupying the oil-producing regions of Kurdistan and southern Iraq (effectively the provinces of Diyala, Wasit, Maysan, Muthanna, Basra, and probably Salah ad-Din) would require an occupation force of roughly 150,000 to 200,000 troops. In other words, it would require the occupation of Iraq at levels roughly equivalent to the occupation forces the U.S. employed from 2003 to 2008.

That’s convenient because we also have a rough sense of what that occupation cost us. In direct costs, the eight years of U.S. occupation from 2003 to 2011 cost the United States $815 billion, or roughly $100 billion per year. However, indirect costs (like interest on the debt we incurred to pay for the war and future outlays for wounded soldiers and survivors of those killed in action) will add quite a bit more. No one knows for sure, because it depends on lots of things that will happen in the future, but estimates by various economists indicate that the indirect costs will bring the total cost of those eight years of occupation to anywhere from $1.7 to $3 trillion dollars—or $212 to $375 billion dollars per year of the occupation.

So that’s what we are looking at in terms of cost: anywhere from $100 to $375 billion per year, but around $212 billion is probably the right number.

Now we have to turn to the benefits side of the equation. What would we get from that occupation? Well, Iraq has been pumping oil as fast as it can, with the aid of Western oil giants like Shell, Exxon, and BP. They have consistently exceeded expectations of how much they can grow production each year, and are now producing 4.8 million barrels per day—far more than they did under Saddam. So it seems unlikely that the United States could have done much better if we had seized the oilfields and pumped the oil ourselves—or if we were to do so in the near future.

 

 

What has that oil netted Iraq? Well, according to the EIA, Iraq made $57.2 billion in revenue from its oil exports in 2015 and $89.2 billion from its oil exports in 2014. (Figures for 2016 are not yet available).

Now, Iraq does not export every barrel it pumps—its own people need to consume some. If the United States were utterly ruthless (and given the assumptions of this policy, it sounds like that is the plan) we could deprive the Iraqis of all domestic consumption and sell every last barrel. Even if we did that, however, since Iraq only consumes about 10 to 14 percent of the oil it produces, it doesn’t improve the numbers much. For instance, adding back domestic production to the 2014 and 2015 numbers only boosts oil revenue to about $65 billion for 2015 and about $102 billion for 2014.

Some might argue that the 2003 to 2011 occupation of Iraq was unnecessarily expensive; that costs could have been much lower if it had not been so horribly mismanaged from 2003 to 2006. I would certainly agree with that, but I still don’t believe that this argument should then be used to discount the likely cost of a new occupation of Iraq. The last time around, most Iraqis marveled at our incompetence and were horrified by the miseries we inflicted on them, but they were generally glad to be rid of Saddam and believed that we (probably) had their best intentions at heart. Under President Trump’s new plan, we would be going into Iraq to occupy much of the country to steal their oil—their patrimony. I think it highly likely that under such circumstances, Iraqi resistance to American occupation would make the 2003-2006 insurgency pale by comparison and so, if anything, costs could be even higher.

 

 

So that is the bottom line. Trying to take Iraq’s oil by occupying the country and pumping the oil makes no financial sense whatsoever.

In an absolute best-case scenario, where the costs of occupation are minimal and the revenues produced from Iraqi oil exports are maximized, we might break even. In any other, more realistic scenario, the United States loses money. A lot of money. In fact, in the most likely scenarios, we get positively fleeced, potentially losing over $300 billion per year over the long term. And the longer we stay and the more of Iraq’s oil we forcibly export for ourselves, the more ruinously expensive it gets.

So can we drop this nonsense and talk about a more realistic Iraq policy? My suggestion emphasizes the need for Washington to make a major effort to help Iraq politically and stop focusing so myopically on ISIS alone. You can read it in full here, along with other big ideas that my Brookings colleagues have for America’s new phase.

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The Iraq President doesn't really understand who he is dealing with! They have never of been accused of being geniuses anyway. They better wise up real quick! Because, the light is fixin to start shinin their way and when it does, I really don't think they are going to like the new Sheriff. If it was me, I would turn that whole $h-t hole into glass! Obumer has screwed this whole deal up, along with our great country to boot! The Iraq president has the power to make this deal go through now, which is what he better do, and quick! We all have bunch tied up in this deal, I don't really want to loose it either. I for one, am sick of these crazy a$$ muslims and their B.S.! I'm ready, to do something drastic with them now! NO more Games, the party is over! They need to understand it too! Do right, are loose it all! They can be a productive global citizen if they want to. The U.S. is willing to help, but the games must stop and now! I would gladly re enlist to help put a stop to this radical muslim behavior! People have to realize that muslim belief, is like communism or socialism in the way their government is structured and run. It has nothing to do with race! Its right out of the gates of hell as to the author of it! I would prefer that Iraq get their act together and become a great peaceful and prosperous nation! This would really help me and my family greatly! But I'm ready to get it on too! Come on Iraq do the right thing!! Go RV!!! JMHO :salute:

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3 hours ago, Texstorm said:

Thanks Yota ! Personally they can keep their damn oil but they are going to pay even if we got to take it out of their a$$. RV NOW !

Thinking the same. Cash, gas/oil or a$$, no one rides for free from now on.

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17 minutes ago, jg1 said:

Thinking the same. Cash, gas/oil or a$$, no one rides for free from now on.

Funny damn thing JG1 I almost put that in text this morning. That's the way I remember it JG1..... " a$$ , gas, cash or grass ! No one rides for free!" ....Cash is King ! Great minds think alike. But it's high time for Iraq to antty- up ! They are starting to p_ss me off !

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1 minute ago, Texstorm said:

Funny damn thing JG1 I almost put that in text this morning. That's the way I remember it JG1..... " a$$ , gas, cash or grass ! No one rides for free!" ....Cash is King ! Great minds think alike. But it's high time for Iraq to antty- up ! They are starting to p_ss me off !

Yeee, haaaaaw. Lets get this dog and pony show over. 

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I had a black light poster when I was a kid. It was a picture of a buzzard sitting on a limb, looking over a vast desert. Caption " Patience my ass...I'm going to kill something"  Kind of the way these Camel Jockies are testing my limits. LOL

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