Markinsa Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 FBI is Quietly Releases Documents Via Julian Assange and Wikileaks!! This is really happening people. This is WHY Comey wrote the letter. This is WHERE the documents we have all been waiting for and expecting from WIKILEAKS are coming from. NOT the Russians! The US Intelligence Community is staging a Coup against the Clinton Corruption. Watch this now!! (SEE VIDEO BELOW) SHARE SHARE SHARE this before Facebook takes it down! There is NO TIME! Don’t wait. This is really exciting and scary at the same time. Donald Trump should be our new president but these next few days are going to be CRAZY! (SEE VIDEO BELOW) Steve Pieczenik was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker. Steve Pieczenik was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker. His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare. He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indraman Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Let the "true" Patriots rise up, stand up, and expose the truth of the most corrupt Presidential candidate in history, and the "rigged" system that has been coordinating and protecting her all along the way. Indy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 I'm all for it.....just wish there was a better option than this Trump dork. GO RV, then BV 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: I'm all for it.....just wish there was a better option than this Trump dork. GO RV, then BV There is Gary Johnson and Bill Weld... Honestly, Bill Weld was loved as governor of Massachusetts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md11fr8dawg Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 I think she means a serious contender other than Trump. Johnson is losing support at a rapid pace. Last I saw, he was down to 3 percent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, md11fr8dawg said: I think she means a serious contender other than Trump. Johnson is losing support at a rapid pace. Last I saw, he was down to 3 percent. It is a sad sight to see. It is dreadful to think Americans can only think in terms of a two party system... We need to look at the rest of the civilized world and understand we need to update our way of thinking... The political machines are amazingly talented in dividing us and using us for their personal gain. B/A 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divemaster5734 Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 20 minutes ago, bostonangler said: It is a sad sight to see. It is dreadful to think Americans can only think in terms of a two party system... We need to look at the rest of the civilized world and understand we need to update our way of thinking... The political machines are amazingly talented in dividing us and using us for their personal gain. B/A I understand the frustration if the two parties are left unchanged from the cesspool of self-indulgent criminals they have both become. I think the core problem is Americans have allowed themselves to ignore their civic duty to stay involved and engaged. I wouldn't spend too much time examining why this country devolved to today, other than to honestly identify the cancer that is the root cause. Honestly, I believe the single most important issue is the lack of education. The DOE has been allowed to alter history, replace basic instruction with special interest, and our kids propaganda brainwashing begins before they can even talk. Only after years of ever increasing deceptions was there available a generation of believers who became the leaders of the next wave victims. On and on it continued, from removing the math required to calculate an acre's crop yield and instilling freedom's pride, the cancer called department of education grew. They replaced history with socialist propaganda, critical thinking with memorization, pride with victimization, inclusiveness with diversity. A Trump win means far more than just getting rid of the most destructive crime family in America, it means there will be a war against the liars of all stripes. Will it mean a movement that finally address the source? I don't know. I do know most Americans simply do not have the tools, knowledge, or ability to live in a fully constitutional correct society. Do you know the difference between statute's and laws? Admiralty and Law of the Land? Any idea how many amendments need to be rewritten or removed? Until it is accepted Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant and usurper, the civil war was not about slavery, and America has been under siege since she began, then the cancer of ignorance will continue to destroy our country....DM 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, divemaster5734 said: I understand the frustration if the two parties are left unchanged from the cesspool of self-indulgent criminals they have both become. I think the core problem is Americans have allowed themselves to ignore their civic duty to stay involved and engaged. I wouldn't spend too much time examining why this country devolved to today, other than to honestly identify the cancer that is the root cause. Honestly, I believe the single most important issue is the lack of education. The DOE has been allowed to alter history, replace basic instruction with special interest, and our kids propaganda brainwashing begins before they can even talk. Only after years of ever increasing deceptions was there available a generation of believers who became the leaders of the next wave victims. On and on it continued, from removing the math required to calculate an acre's crop yield and instilling freedom's pride, the cancer called department of education grew. They replaced history with socialist propaganda, critical thinking with memorization, pride with victimization, inclusiveness with diversity. A Trump win means far more than just getting rid of the most destructive crime family in America, it means there will be a war against the liars of all stripes. Will it mean a movement that finally address the source? I don't know. I do know most Americans simply do not have the tools, knowledge, or ability to live in a fully constitutional correct society. Do you know the difference between statute's and laws? Admiralty and Law of the Land? Any idea how many amendments need to be rewritten or removed? Until it is accepted Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant and usurper, the civil war was not about slavery, and America has been under siege since she began, then the cancer of ignorance will continue to destroy our country....DM I agree with 99% of what you say. But don't be fooled. Trump isn't any different than the rest of the elite. He isn't going to change anything (if he wins) the political machine of the Congress and Senate will continue business as usual... Taking care of their personal gains. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWitte Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 27 minutes ago, divemaster5734 said: I understand the frustration if the two parties are left unchanged from the cesspool of self-indulgent criminals they have both become. I think the core problem is Americans have allowed themselves to ignore their civic duty to stay involved and engaged. I wouldn't spend too much time examining why this country devolved to today, other than to honestly identify the cancer that is the root cause. Honestly, I believe the single most important issue is the lack of education. The DOE has been allowed to alter history, replace basic instruction with special interest, and our kids propaganda brainwashing begins before they can even talk. Only after years of ever increasing deceptions was there available a generation of believers who became the leaders of the next wave victims. On and on it continued, from removing the math required to calculate an acre's crop yield and instilling freedom's pride, the cancer called department of education grew. They replaced history with socialist propaganda, critical thinking with memorization, pride with victimization, inclusiveness with diversity. A Trump win means far more than just getting rid of the most destructive crime family in America, it means there will be a war against the liars of all stripes. Will it mean a movement that finally address the source? I don't know. I do know most Americans simply do not have the tools, knowledge, or ability to live in a fully constitutional correct society. Do you know the difference between statute's and laws? Admiralty and Law of the Land? Any idea how many amendments need to be rewritten or removed? Until it is accepted Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant and usurper, the civil war was not about slavery, and America has been under siege since she began, then the cancer of ignorance will continue to destroy our country....DM Mr. Divemaster. Your post should be required reading for everyone. Everyone will take something different from anything we read but what I see as the most important thought is your comment about education. I have seen this over and over in my entire career. People who are educated can have a civil conversation with an opposing point of view and both can grow from it. Uneducated people can only throw insults and innuendos to cover their lack of knowledge. But don't be fooled, "education" doesn't necessarily mean higher education. Some of the smartest people who ever lived have never been to College. And some of those same people went to College and learned how to promulgate their gift. Some of the problem arises when an "average" person goes to College and automatically thinks (assumes) they are educated. I realize this post is a short version of what could be a book but I personally believe it's the most important concept we face. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxinjersey Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, DWitte said: Mr. Divemaster. Your post should be required reading for everyone. Everyone will take something different from anything we read but what I see as the most important thought is your comment about education. I have seen this over and over in my entire career. People who are educated can have a civil conversation with an opposing point of view and both can grow from it. Uneducated people can only throw insults and innuendos to cover their lack of knowledge. But don't be fooled, "education" doesn't necessarily mean higher education. Some of the smartest people who ever lived have never been to College. And some of those same people went to College and learned how to promulgate their gift. Some of the problem arises when an "average" person goes to College and automatically thinks (assumes) they are educated. I realize this post is a short version of what could be a book but I personally believe it's the most important concept we face. DWitte... you animal! This is by far your best post ever! And thanks again, DM... spot on. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, bostonangler said: It is a sad sight to see. It is dreadful to think Americans can only think in terms of a two party system... We need to look at the rest of the civilized world and understand we need to update our way of thinking... The political machines are amazingly talented in dividing us and using us for their personal gain. B/A I don't think it's as much about the two party system as it's about the chosen opponent. I just don't think Johnson (Aleppo gaffe) is that guy. Had one of the other Republicans jumped ship and went Independent, Kasich for example.....I believe they would of had a legitimate shot. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Just now, Shabibilicious said: I don't think it's as much about the two party system as it's about the chosen opponent. I just don't think Johnson (Aleppo gaffe) is that guy. Had one of the other Republicans jumped ship and went Independent, Kasich for example.....I believe they would of had a legitimate shot. As always, just my opinion. GO RV, then BV I agree Kasich would have been the better choice to unite. What could've been... I hope everyone who disagrees on political views realizes this is only the beginning. Next Wednesday is going to be the start of the real drama. And I'm not talking about Nibiru. B/A 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md11fr8dawg Posted November 2, 2016 Report Share Posted November 2, 2016 Kasch was part of the Establishment which the swamp that needs to be drained. People on both sides of the aisle must go. McCain and Grammnesty are 2 Repubs that come to mind along with Bush and Kasich. And don't talk about the DemoRats that ned to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divemaster5734 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 13 hours ago, bostonangler said: I agree with 99% of what you say. But don't be fooled. Trump isn't any different than the rest of the elite. He isn't going to change anything (if he wins) the political machine of the Congress and Senate will continue business as usual... Taking care of their personal gains. With almost every one of my posts about Trump I have declared that he can't do anything by himself. How can one person possibly stand up to the thousands, no, millions, of entitlement demanding federalists? After all, that's what they are, red or blue, they worship the almighty government. Be it from an elitist perspective, a career bureaucrat's "security", a lobbyist's meddling, a power tripper's "authority", or a non-producers "entitlement" expectations, over half of this country is dependent on the government for substance in one way or another. The USA is well on it's way to becoming another Venezuela. Just look at what happened when a computer glitch didn't recharge the takers cards in time, and Walmart's across the country were looted in broad daylight by self-righteous and incensed welfare recipients who were not able to get their free stuff when they felt like they "deserved" it. The ONLY thing Trump can do is open the right door and step aside to let We The People effect the changes needed. Do you honestly think for one second any of the establishment pols will give him the time of day if he is standing alone? If you have read even five of any of my posts you have read the words "take back your power", or something to that effect. Trump already quit referring to the campaign as "his", and has acknowledged it to be "our's". It is a movement, a concerted effort by millions of individuals, united for a singular cause. Listen to his words, he understands the concept of "united for a cause", which inversely demands each individual retains all their rights in all other matters. That's huge. The government was given it's authority through the consent of the governed, but it then overstepped that little authority it was given, and they now trespass on the rights of the individual. The government has demanded it's abusive control over the People through the oppressive use of force, through fear, intimidation, kidnapping, and murder. Our government has declares each of us their "property", and demands we pay for far more than the cost of maintaining civil structure. Our government has declared they own everything, from our homes, to the land they are built on. That is why they can take anything we own anytime they decide they have a need for it. What do you think eminent domain is? Any police and flash a badge, order you out of your car, and drive it away if they feel they have a need, and in some states they don't even have to pay you for it if they wreck it. Heard of a guy named Clive Bundy lately? Do I "know" Trump is not lying, of course not. His words make a LOT of sense. You can choose to declare him a liar, it is certainly your right. As for me, I chose to see the glass half full, I refuse to give up. For as long as we draw breath there will always be a chance. Without hope, what else is left? 12 hours ago, DWitte said: Mr. Divemaster. Your post should be required reading for everyone. Everyone will take something different from anything we read but what I see as the most important thought is your comment about education. I have seen this over and over in my entire career. People who are educated can have a civil conversation with an opposing point of view and both can grow from it. Uneducated people can only throw insults and innuendos to cover their lack of knowledge. But don't be fooled, "education" doesn't necessarily mean higher education. Some of the smartest people who ever lived have never been to College. And some of those same people went to College and learned how to promulgate their gift. Some of the problem arises when an "average" person goes to College and automatically thinks (assumes) they are educated. I realize this post is a short version of what could be a book but I personally believe it's the most important concept we face. It's ironic, don't ya think? common sense aint so common. I call it the "dark side" of education. Those that have bought into academia's worship of knowledge. They abandoned wisdom in their pursuit of knowledge, and traded humility for "enlightenment". Intelligence will always find a way, especially when unrestricted by the pretense of educational politics. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess of the public treasury. From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship....The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from great courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again to bondage." Sir Alex Fraser Tytler Edited November 3, 2016 by ladyGrace'sDaddy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Evil Eminent Domain has entered the conversation......the very thing Trump has promoted many times. Just a couple related articles below, there are many. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/08/19/donald-trumps-abuse-of-eminent-domain/?utm_term=.b467f2dcbaba GO RV, then BV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: Evil Eminent Domain has entered the conversation......the very thing Trump has promoted many times. Just a couple related articles below, there are many. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/08/19/donald-trumps-abuse-of-eminent-domain/?utm_term=.b467f2dcbaba GO RV, then BV I know right? He's a man of the people... Or maybe not. I guess it depends which "people" you are. Edited November 3, 2016 by bostonangler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 4 hours ago, ladyGrace'sDaddy said: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess of the public treasury. From that time on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the results that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship....The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from great courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependency back again to bondage." Sir Alex Fraser Tytler LGD that is such a true statement... We are the modern Romans. Every great empire falls for the same basic reasons. Sir Alex nailed it. B/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 22 hours ago, bostonangler said: I agree with 99% of what you say. But don't be fooled. Trump isn't any different than the rest of the elite. He isn't going to change anything (if he wins) the political machine of the Congress and Senate will continue business as usual... Taking care of their personal gains. That statement is so far from the truth, Just as Trump stated he didn't have to do this, Trump didn't have to spend his own money on you or me...and you may not want to believe that statement...you can it hear from himself 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Gary Johnson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bostonangler Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, yota691 said: That statement is so far from the truth, Just as Trump stated he didn't have to do this, Trump didn't have to spend his own money on you or me...and you may not want to believe that statement...you can it hear from himself Thanks Yota, your are the newskeeper. And I hope his words are true, but I'm afraid he is a fraud. Again I hope I'm wrong... Of course none this matters if she wins. I really believe we are screwed either way. I'm glad so many are on the Hope and Change bandwagon, but I don't think anything is going to change. B/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Yota, serious question. Do you really believe that Donald Trump isn't part of the Elite in America? B/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just now, bostonangler said: Hope and Change LOL that phrase been used and it not from the Trump camp, and we all know where that disastrous phrase land us...a... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonangler Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just now, yota691 said: LOL that phrase been used and it not from the Trump camp, and we all know where that disastrous phrase land us...a... I thought that would be appreciated... LOL B/A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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