ronscarpa Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Iraq demands ” IMF, ” five billion dollars to meet its budget deficitJune 23, 2010 · Posted in DDT's -NEWS Arbil, June 23 ( Akaniwz ) – An official source at the Iraqi Finance Ministry , on Wednesday , the current budget year, recorded a deficit of 23 trillion Iraqi dinars, pointing out that his country asked the International Monetary Fund , a loan of five billion U.S. dollars to fill the deficit.The agent said the Ministry of Finance Fadhil Prophet told Kurdistan News ( Akaniwz ) “The arrival of budget deficit this year to Iraq, to account for about 23 trillion Iraqi dinars, forced the Iraqi government requested a loan from the International Monetary Fund worth five billion U.S. dollars, to plug its budget And distributed to those economic sectors that need it. ”“The Kurdistan region will get its share of the loan and the general budget by 17%. . ”The Prophet said , ” This will have the amount Aguetrdhanah the World Bank, effect in reducing the budget deficit, ” he said, adding that “the International Monetary Fund has imposed on Iraq, any conditions in return the loan . ”http://www.aknews.com/ar/aknews/2/157881/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysg Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) 23 Trillion isn't that the same amount of Dinars they just removed from circulation? Edited June 23, 2010 by tonysg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racbluto Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Why would they need a loan if there was any plan to RV. I don't see this as good news. Could be smoke and mirrors but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylucy Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Why would they need a loan if there was any plan to RV. I don't see this as good news. Could be smoke and mirrors but who knows. Smoke and mirrors .. or RV is delayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrref Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Ladies and Gentlemen, this is not good, not good at all. We may be in for a long haul yet of course they could be blowing smoke, but I don't think so, then again will IMF give it to them thats the next question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbrlgms Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 who knows what is going on with them(Iraq) to many corruptions, this politicians are playing with the people of iraq, god only knows if this is going to happen to many delays and execuses and no sign of a new goverment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampa1000 Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 This is not good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythunter Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think it's good. If the IMF says no, it will put pressure on Iraq to RV/RI very soon. No problems there.If the IMF says yes, it means that the IMF knows that Iraq will RV/RI very soon so they will be able to repay the loan.Iraq does not have a strong history of paying their bill. (i.e. sonny1's contact and GE to not ship any equipment until payment in full.)Trying to figure this one out though is almost futile since most people's heads are spinning because of all of the stuff coming out of Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drez Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see how this is good, one of the big perks of buying into Dinar was that Iraq had no debt. Now they will be a couple of million in the whole. Please someone show me the bright side to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby_cahill Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 SIMPLE:IMF says no...........we're okIMF says yes.........Oh ChitMy OpinionSemper Fi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squaredaway Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Let's hope the IMF, U.N. and the CBI have the fortitude to tell Iraq to RV and get the money that way. Otherwise, we're just replenishing the bucket that the bandits are stealing money from to line their own "robes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drox Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 I look at it this way... Iraq isn't dipping into their reserve account to pay this right? No... they are leveraging the money by requesting a loan to stretch out the payments. Truthfully what they have been doing is just going without the things they mentioned they needed. All instead of using the reserve funds.Those reserve funds are needed to "back up" the currency. To make it stronger or even more credible for when it does become internationally recognized. This must be a part of the IMF outline to CBI. Protect it at all costs. When this revalues the responsibility of funding the exchange will be spread across the world economies and investment communities as I see it. Most countries will gobble up the Dinar for their own country's reserves and will thus hold the Dinar. Large currency investors will join in the investment when it is not as speculative...remember they will be using other peoples money to invest and must be prudent. That will retain a sizable portion of the Dinar through a secondary market creation. The revaluation will be the light switch that makes the Iraqi Dinar credible and one step closer to international recognition. Partial release of the UNSC sanctions will follow shortly to give it life to be traded internationally. So Iraq should have little to cash in if my assumption is correct. Therefore... borrowing from the IMF is a no brainer and no big deal. Just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc31 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Did everyone miss that word "DEMANDS"?Kinda' ballsy don't you think?1) asking/demanding and getting are two different things2) what are they paying in interest on these loans?If this is cheap money like I think it is ... I'd get it too ... why not ask/demand ... the worst that you can be told is "no" ... which mythunter pointed out tells them that the well is dry and pressures them to RI/RV. IF the Chinese aren't drilling and IF GE/Siemens aren't delivering and throwing the switch ... pressure pressure pressureIf it is cheap money and the IMF says OK it does make it easier to RI/RV with the additional capital ... why not ask?If it's not cheap why would you want it anyway ... they were selling T-Bills and Shabibi cut it off ... this is where the payment to GE and Siemens was to come from since al-Maliki was too busy thieving to notice that Iraq had bills to pay. Ask yourself ... WHY DID THEY STOP SELLING T-BILLS?????? I think that you will find everything that you need to know right there.Besides, Uncle Sugar is going to keep them afloat! Why not ask Uncle Sugar one last time?!I don't think it's smoke or mirrors ... I think that it is working the Uncle Sugar slot machine ... they are just getting better at it and can see that the end is near.JMOPeaceDoc31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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