divemaster5734 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rw.sutton Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 The liberal Democrats are in a panic and will do anything to maintain the status quo. It's over people, Donald Trump is on his way to Washington! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, rw.sutton said: The liberal Democrats are in a panic and will do anything to maintain the status quo. It's over people, Donald Trump is on his way to Washington! His new digs might even be ready by the end of the summer. GO RV, then BV 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rw.sutton Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 28 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: His new digs might even be ready by the end of the summer. GO RV, then BV Hopefully! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 34 minutes ago, rw.sutton said: Hopefully! Absolutely! GO RV, then BV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 Is that Melania's speech writer Meredith McIver in the shadows under the bus? GO RV, then BV 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 ***/// SHABS -- have some class.... both she and Trump did. She offered to resign, he refused to accept it. Paying homage to the current first 'lady's' former use of the words repeated by Mrs. Trump apparently should have been pointed out for all the ignorant people in the world who think that once words are spoken they may never again be repeated by any living person. According to nit-picking, desperate, shallow, manic, safe-zone-seeking wimps those words are 'owned' by moochelle and may never again be spoken by anyone.... RIDICULOUS. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 1 hour ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said: ***/// SHABS -- have some class.... both she and Trump did. She offered to resign, he refused to accept it. Paying homage to the current first 'lady's' former use of the words repeated by Mrs. Trump apparently should have been pointed out for all the ignorant people in the world who think that once words are spoken they may never again be repeated by any living person. According to nit-picking, desperate, shallow, manic, safe-zone-seeking wimps those words are 'owned' by moochelle and may never again be spoken by anyone.... RIDICULOUS. . I see. I never name called Mrs trump....but you refer to Mrs Obama as "moochelle"....and im the one who needs to show some class. Some of you righties have completely lost it. GO RV, then BV 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmagee4395 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 What's funny is the left is getting on Mrs Trumps speech but I hear crickets when Attorny General meets with husband of someone under FBI investigation and when no charges are referred to grand jury still no outrage on left but hey Mrs Trumps speech threatens Republic more than Maddam secretary's mishandling of classified emails sounds logical ha ha 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said: I see. I never name called Mrs trump....but you refer to Mrs Obama as "moochelle".... ***/// she IS a moocher. having feasted off this Republic all her life, USED the US Taxpayer and affirmative action, appointed to positions where she NEVER did a lick of work... 'MOOCH'elle. Then had the nerve to say she's never been proud of The United States of America before... and refuses to recite The Pledge of Allegiance, refuses to acknowledge Our Colors when they pass in review and makes disparaging remarks about Our Unites States Military, abuses White House employees, wastes millions of OUR hard-earned TAX DOLLARS for personal vacations, just to name a few examples... of which there are MANY, MANY more. EPIC FAIL as a First Lady.... not to mention as an American. . . 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) 11 hours ago, SgtFuryUSCZ said: ***/// she IS a moocher. having feasted off this Republic all her life, USED the US Taxpayer and affirmative action, appointed to positions where she NEVER did a lick of work... 'MOOCH'elle. Then had the nerve to say she's never been proud of The United States of America before... and refuses to recite The Pledge of Allegiance, refuses to acknowledge Our Colors when they pass in review and makes disparaging remarks about Our Unites States Military, abuses White House employees, wastes millions of OUR hard-earned TAX DOLLARS for personal vacations, just to name a few examples... of which there are MANY, MANY more. EPIC FAIL as a First Lady.... not to mention as an American. She's also admired by Melania Trump and the inspiration for the plagiarism faux pas.......sort of makes your head want to spit and sputter with confusion, huh? GO RV, then BV Edited July 21, 2016 by Shabibilicious 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 13 hours ago, emmagee4395 said: What's funny is the left is getting on Mrs Trumps speech but I hear crickets when Attorny General meets with husband of someone under FBI investigation and when no charges are referred to grand jury still no outrage on left but hey Mrs Trumps speech threatens Republic more than Maddam secretary's mishandling of classified emails sounds logical ha ha You need to watch more Fox News......between bouts of sexual harassment, Hi!!ary Clinton is all they ever talk about. GO RV, then BV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV ME Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, Shabibilicious said: .......sort of makes your head want to spit and sputter with confusion, huh? GO RV, then BV Speaking of head splitting confusion, I am surprised your cranium is still in one piece after last night since you and Cruz are now in total lockstep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just now, RV ME said: Speaking of head splitting confusion, I am surprised your cranium is still in one piece after last night since you and Cruz are now in total lockstep. That's an odd statement and one that makes zero sense, but you seem to be gravitating more and more towards the obscure as we get closer to November....jitters I suppose. As for last night, I especially enjoyed the part where Heidi Cruz had to be escorted from the arena because Trumpbots can't seem to control their anger and violence. GO RV, then BV 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV ME Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Shabibilicious said: That's an odd statement and one that makes zero sense, but you seem to be gravitating more and more towards the obscure as we get closer to November....jitters I suppose. As for last night, I especially enjoyed the part where Heidi Cruz had to be escorted from the arena because Trumpbots can't seem to control their anger and violence. GO RV, then BV Remain in denial as long as you wish, but what I said makes perfect sense, I’ll type this slowly so maybe you can understand. You have said before that you do not support Hildabeast but are proudly a Never Trumper. Cruz basically said the same thing last night. Politics makes for strange bedfellows so like it or not, you and Ted are sharing the same sheets on this one. Hope it’s good for you. And I must have missed that violence you claimed took place. Maybe you can direct me to a link or was that another of your baseless accusations? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, RV ME said: Remain in denial as long as you wish, but what I said makes perfect sense, I’ll type this slowly so maybe you can understand. You have said before that you do not support Hildabeast but are proudly a Never Trumper. Cruz basically said the same thing last night. Politics makes for strange bedfellows so like it or not, you and Ted are sharing the same sheets on this one. Hope it’s good for you. And I must have missed that violence you claimed took place. Maybe you can direct me to a link or was that another of your baseless accusations? There's any number of news feeds you can find the story on. It will take a speck of browsing, but I suspect you're up to the task. Verbal violence is still violence, and in many cases leads to LOVE.....or your avatar if you will....especially when emotions run high and rational thought has waved bye bye. Now, it is true I'm a "Never Trumper", can't, won't and don't want to deny it, but a Cruz lock stepper, hardly.......If guilt by association is your thing, then so be it. No chance of ever talking those types off the ledge. GO RV, then BV 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divemaster5734 Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 6 hours ago, RV ME said: Remain in denial as long as you wish, but what I said makes perfect sense, I’ll type this slowly so maybe you can understand. You have said before that you do not support Hildabeast but are proudly a Never Trumper. Cruz basically said the same thing last night. Politics makes for strange bedfellows so like it or not, you and Ted are sharing the same sheets on this one. Hope it’s good for you. And I must have missed that violence you claimed took place. Maybe you can direct me to a link or was that another of your baseless accusations? Hey RV, Just as Cruz may well have committed career suicide by proving he knows nothing about honor, ethics, or morality, and single handed relegated himself to "whinyassed sore losers", he, like shabbs, exist on nothing but anger and emotion. Not many people noticed it, but aside from breaking the pledge he took which he used to attack Trump during the early run, Cruz also took the side of a criminal sex offender that tried to take a cops gun and got killed for it. I wonder how many little girls will grow up normal now, after NOT getting molested because that POS is dead? Cruz proved he was never presidential material, but even more, he sold out not just the republican party, but America as well, for nothing more than his poor over-inflated ego. Shabbs would do the same, he is actually, by taking his little "angry twit" posture, gleefully churning up words to discredit, while refusing to substantiate them, demanding everyone else spend their own time to validate his hurtful words, he is either woefully ignorant of common ethics concerning posting, or, knows he is twisting yet another minor issue far out of proportion, only to satisfy his own need to spread the anger and frustration he feels inside. I rarely bother giving him the time of day anymore, his arguments are worn out, his positions are unreliable, and he claims to be Christian, while blissfully supporting anything that attacks Christianity, or Christian values. Once you realize he says whatever is convenient, only to declare the polar opposite days after, then the unending attacks by shabbs start to make sense. How else can a claimed "Christian" support everything progressive left, the most avowed Christian haters in America? Don't let his prattle upset you. You are, and have always, been a steadfast conservative. We know that, and unless you are in a mood to demonstrate to him how whacked his positions are, there's no need to waste your time. It would be like trying to convince a black lives matter thug that All lives mater. It has never been about gaining equality, rather, about a platform to spew hate, division, and racism. Have a great day RV, take your dogs for a walk, tell your kids you love them, and realize, once your done with your posts, you are still you, and shabbs will still be spewing venom, desperately trying to sew discord, happily selling out his fellow Americans to the globalists. Poor little Gollum, he can't find "precious", but with shabbs, that's because he doesn't know what it looks like.. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 All i have seen when it comes to politics here is the very anger and emotion you speak of coming mostly from those who claim to have all the answers. Is that not true? Tearing someone apart because they do not think or act like you is based upon anger and emotion, and that has been the play book I see here all the time when it comes to politics or religion because I have been the target of it also just because I do not buy the approach. How about people start getting back to working together to find solutions to the real world issues that plague us all, and stop acting like a hit squad against anyone who may have differing opinions. I have asked many times to receive answers to questions I have posed when it comes to all the hot air and clever cliches tossed about in here. I have yet to get a response on real issues about our country. Go to the "neo-liberalism" thread that I have asked these questions. It would be nice to have a discussion about those things if indeed it is possible to discuss without accusing, bashing, whining, bitching and blaming. Hopefully we can do it without too much anger and emotional responses. Other wise, go ahead and label me and accuse me of being something I am not like you have in the past and I will continue to assume this is not much more than hot air and wanting attention. Thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV ME Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 8 hours ago, Shabibilicious said: There's any number of news feeds you can find the story on. It will take a speck of browsing, but I suspect you're up to the task. Verbal violence is still violence, and in many cases leads to LOVE.....or your avatar if you will....especially when emotions run high and rational thought has waved bye bye. Now, it is true I'm a "Never Trumper", can't, won't and don't want to deny it, but a Cruz lock stepper, hardly.......If guilt by association is your thing, then so be it. No chance of ever talking those types off the ledge. GO RV, then BV Verbal violence is still violence?!?!?!?!? That’s rich! Surely even you can see what BS that is. If not then I am not sure which more accurately describes you OR Sorry if I intruded on your safe space. And if / when you finally get around to rational thought let me know and then we might be able to actually have meaningful dialog. 3 hours ago, divemaster5734 said: Hey RV, Just as Cruz may well have committed career suicide by proving he knows nothing about honor, ethics, or morality, and single handed relegated himself to "whinyassed sore losers", he, like shabbs, exist on nothing but anger and emotion. Not many people noticed it, but aside from breaking the pledge he took which he used to attack Trump during the early run, Cruz also took the side of a criminal sex offender that tried to take a cops gun and got killed for it. I wonder how many little girls will grow up normal now, after NOT getting molested because that POS is dead? Cruz proved he was never presidential material, but even more, he sold out not just the republican party, but America as well, for nothing more than his poor over-inflated ego. Shabbs would do the same, he is actually, by taking his little "angry twit" posture, gleefully churning up words to discredit, while refusing to substantiate them, demanding everyone else spend their own time to validate his hurtful words, he is either woefully ignorant of common ethics concerning posting, or, knows he is twisting yet another minor issue far out of proportion, only to satisfy his own need to spread the anger and frustration he feels inside. I rarely bother giving him the time of day anymore, his arguments are worn out, his positions are unreliable, and he claims to be Christian, while blissfully supporting anything that attacks Christianity, or Christian values. Once you realize he says whatever is convenient, only to declare the polar opposite days after, then the unending attacks by shabbs start to make sense. How else can a claimed "Christian" support everything progressive left, the most avowed Christian haters in America? Don't let his prattle upset you. You are, and have always, been a steadfast conservative. We know that, and unless you are in a mood to demonstrate to him how whacked his positions are, there's no need to waste your time. It would be like trying to convince a black lives matter thug that All lives mater. It has never been about gaining equality, rather, about a platform to spew hate, division, and racism. Have a great day RV, take your dogs for a walk, tell your kids you love them, and realize, once your done with your posts, you are still you, and shabbs will still be spewing venom, desperately trying to sew discord, happily selling out his fellow Americans to the globalists. Poor little Gollum, he can't find "precious", but with shabbs, that's because he doesn't know what it looks like.. Thanks for the support DM, and fear not, Shabbs does not get me down. I enjoy using a liberals’ own words to demonstrate how foolish they are. Usually does not take much effort, like the time he said in the same post that Cruz was exactly what the Country needs but he would never vote for him. Or when he gives a pass to those actually committing acts of violence against Trump supporters and has to try to pathetically equate that with verbal violence (whatever he imagines that to be) by Trump supporters. It appears that since he is impaled on a fence post it cuts off the oxygen to his brain. Speaking of pathetic, Cruz really screwed the pooch last night. He didn’t have to campaign for Trump but he should have lived up to his word and supported the party nominee. Very disappointing and he was my man going in. Apparently to Ted, “oath” means nothing as long as he can rationalize a reason for breaking it. Since he has demonstrated his “oath” has no meaning or value I do not want, and would never support, him taking an oath of office of any kind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divemaster5734 Posted July 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Jim1cor13 said: All i have seen when it comes to politics here is the very anger and emotion you speak of coming mostly from those who claim to have all the answers. Is that not true? Tearing someone apart because they do not think or act like you is based upon anger and emotion, and that has been the play book I see here all the time when it comes to politics or religion because I have been the target of it also just because I do not buy the approach. Jim, that statement would be valid for almost anyone else, but you seem to have neglected to factor the many many times I have offered an olive branch in the past, only to be slapped in the face. I do not have time for bull, or patience for platitudes. You and I have disagreed, and have been able to easily carry on a friendly discussion. The reason for that is both of us hold consistent positions. Neither of us would support something we don't agree on just to make a point, and both of us are honest, even when we are wrong. If you had spent the last two or three years pouring your soul into a discussion only to have shabbs flip flop his position and then make a joke of your words, you would understand how many of us feel. I have had incredible discussions with a great many people here, some have influenced me, I have influenced others, the common denominator was honesty, something shabbs only had when it benefits. Admonish all you want, I logged on, saw he was pulling his usual snarky crud with a person I respect, and jumped in. If you don't like it, that's your problem, I don't care. As for the questions you posed last month, I simply have not had time to respond. I really hope this forum is not the only site you are looking for answers on. This is really severely off topic for DV, and we are being barely tolerated. There are many other sites, and focused forums, where you can get your fill of ideas in one afternoon. Look at the time stamp for this post, it is 12:17 AM, my time. I just finished working on the race bike, and now have to load up and drive 5 hours. The 4th event in our season is this weekend. I'll be lucky to get three hours sleep on an air mattress in the track trailer, parked on the side of the road before the gates open, then will be tweaking the bike for the track all day, getting ready for Saturday qualifiers and Sunday heats. Between running my own company, working the Trump campaign, working my son's campaign,( who is running for state legislature), dealing with employee thefts, wandering crack addict thefts, and road racing motorcycles, I rarely have even a couple spare minutes, much less hours to donate to an internet discussion. I usually find something to agree with you about on your posts, but defending shabbs attacks on women is definitely not one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jim1cor13 Posted July 22, 2016 Report Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) 15 hours ago, divemaster5734 said: Jim, that statement would be valid for almost anyone else, but you seem to have neglected to factor the many many times I have offered an olive branch in the past, only to be slapped in the face. I do not have time for bull, or patience for platitudes. You and I have disagreed, and have been able to easily carry on a friendly discussion. The reason for that is both of us hold consistent positions. Neither of us would support something we don't agree on just to make a point, and both of us are honest, even when we are wrong. If you had spent the last two or three years pouring your soul into a discussion only to have shabbs flip flop his position and then make a joke of your words, you would understand how many of us feel. I have had incredible discussions with a great many people here, some have influenced me, I have influenced others, the common denominator was honesty, something shabbs only had when it benefits. Admonish all you want, I logged on, saw he was pulling his usual snarky crud with a person I respect, and jumped in. If you don't like it, that's your problem, I don't care. As for the questions you posed last month, I simply have not had time to respond. I really hope this forum is not the only site you are looking for answers on. This is really severely off topic for DV, and we are being barely tolerated. There are many other sites, and focused forums, where you can get your fill of ideas in one afternoon. Look at the time stamp for this post, it is 12:17 AM, my time. I just finished working on the race bike, and now have to load up and drive 5 hours. The 4th event in our season is this weekend. I'll be lucky to get three hours sleep on an air mattress in the track trailer, parked on the side of the road before the gates open, then will be tweaking the bike for the track all day, getting ready for Saturday qualifiers and Sunday heats. Between running my own company, working the Trump campaign, working my son's campaign,( who is running for state legislature), dealing with employee thefts, wandering crack addict thefts, and road racing motorcycles, I rarely have even a couple spare minutes, much less hours to donate to an internet discussion. I usually find something to agree with you about on your posts, but defending shabbs attacks on women is definitely not one. Hey Dive Thanks for the response. I am a bit confused at the statement in bold. Where did I defend or mention about "Shabs attack on women"? Because I commented on what I see when it comes to politics and religion here, the anger and emotional responses are common? No reference to what you assumed I was making. It was just about approach and what I saw as being a bit hypocritical in regards to your anger and emotional responses comment. I simply do not buy the approach in general when communicating or trying to make a point. I write a lot daily, I communicate a lot daily with many people some who disagree heartily with me, but I have yet to condemn them for their opinions and it is always cordial responses and bottom line we all learn something AND find solutions together. My comment was my observation is all. Anyway, it would be great at some point to have good discussion without the anger and emotions that are quite common especially with politics, religion. We are all in this together, we may as well make it productive if we can when it comes to the issues that matter to all of us. You guys are intelligent and I know you all care about our country, and we are all tired of the propaganda and the BS we see daily. No need to rail against each other, rather when you have time, let's discuss the issues and how it is possible to correct what we seem to have little power to do so. That has been the basis of my questions, and i would really like to hear some thoughts about them and HOW we can approach them. So much has gone on for so many decades, I do not see how we can recover the ability to actually hold the posers in DC accountable. We are for the most part powerless in too many issues. i would like to read your thoughts and anyone else who care to discuss these things. I understand you are busy, we all are, no problems. Some time it would be interesting and hopefully helpful. You guys have a good weekend! Jim Edited July 22, 2016 by Jim1cor13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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