Email "Facts" As Per Hildabeast

[RV ME]

I went directly into the bowels of the beast to get the official Hildabeast response to the open revelation that she has broken the law in her handling of the Nations’ sensitive and secret documents.  In the long diatribe I see the same pattern of straw man arguments, deflection, LIES, attacks, and obfuscation.  What I do not see is any reference to the actual facts, laws, and penalties that apply to those that violate the law.  So below is the official response taken from the official Hildabeast website with my commentary.  All this would be so laughable if it was not so serious.  Note, I looked through the entire website and other than the current ridicules statement they are now using in that Hildabeast wants all her emails released, this was the most recent factsheet addressing the email issue.  Since this is the latest I must take it as their current stance.  RV ME

 

 

FACTSHEET COPIED FROM HIDABEAST WEBSITE

 

Factsheets

Updated: The Facts About Hildabeast Clinton’s Emails

 

We’ve put all of the information about Hildabeast Clinton’s State Department emails here. Just the facts, all in one place.

 

As in the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.  Which one do you want?

 

Why did Clinton use her own email account?

When Clinton got to the Department, she opted to use her personal email account as a matter of convenience. It enabled her to reach people quickly and keep in regular touch with her family and friends more easily given her travel schedule.

 

Strawman, she could have done this on an official account.

 

That is the only reason she used her own account.

 

LIE!

 

Her usage was widely known to the over 100 State Department and U.S. government colleagues she emailed, consistent with the practice of prior Secretaries of State and permitted at the time.

 

LIE, no other SOS had their own server and used their private email exclusively.

 

As Clinton has said, in hindsight, it would have been better to just have two accounts. While she thought using one account would be easier, obviously, that has not been the case.

 

Ah yes, hindsight is 20/20, but she is still looking at 10-20

 

Was it allowed?

 

Yes. The laws, regulations, and State Department policy in place during her tenure permitted her to use a non-government email for work.

 

 

All of which is required to be turned over to the Dept before leaving the position.

 

 

The 2009 National Archives regulation in place during her tenure required that "[a]gencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system." The regulation recognizes the use of non-government email accounts.

 

Hildabeasts server does not qualify as the “appropriate agency recordkeeping system”

 

As she has stated, Clinton's practice was to email government officials on their ".gov" accounts, so her work emails were immediately captured and preserved. In fact, more than 90% of those emails should have already been captured in the State Department’s email system before she provided them with paper copies.

 

“SHOULD HAVE” been captured.  Except we now know many emails between her and her staff were only on her server.  We also know that some classified info was shared between Hildabests and Sid, who had no .gov emal.

 

A Politifact analysis also confirmed that Clinton's practices complied with laws and regulations, including support from the former director of a prominent government accountability organization: "In Clinton's defense, we should note that it was only after Clinton left the State Department, that the National Archives issued a recommendation that government employees should avoid conducting official business on personal emails (though they noted there might be extenuating circumstances such as an emergency that require it). Additionally, in 2014, President Barack Obama signed changes to the Federal Records Act that explicitly said federal officials can only use personal email addresses if they also copy or send the emails to their official account. Because these rules weren't in effect when Clinton was in office, 'she was in compliance with the laws and regulations at the time,' said Gary Bass, founder and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization."

 

Forgetting to mention the Section 1924 of Title 18 of the U.S. Crimes and Criminal Procedure Code.

 

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

(a)

Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

 

For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).

©

In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

 

 

Clinton said she did not use her email to send or receive classified information, but the State Department and two Inspectors General said some of these emails do contain classified information. Was her statement inaccurate?

 

Clinton only used her account for unclassified email. No information in Clinton's emails was marked classified at the time she sent or received them.

 

Strawman.  As per her NDA and the law, markings do not make things classified.  This argument should have run its course long ago.

 

When information is reviewed for public release, it is common for information previously unclassified to be upgraded to classified if the State Department or another agency believes its public release could cause potential harm to national security, law enforcement or diplomatic relations.

 

Other agencies have said that the information found on Hildabeast server was born classified.  Anything with SAP information is by definition not upgradeable, it was always classified.

 

After reviewing a sampling of the 55,000 pages of emails, the Inspectors General have proffered that a small number of emails, which did not contain any classified markings and/or dissemination controls, should have been classified at the time they were sent. The State Department has said it disagrees with this assessment.

 

State can disagree all it wants, but since State did not originate the information it is not up to State.  Another settled matter and should be an inoperable defense.  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/15/sources-review-affirms-clinton-server-emails-were-top-secret-despite-department-challenge.html

 

Clinton hopes the State Department and the agencies involved in the review process will sort out as quickly as possible which of the 55,000 pages of emails are appropriate to share with the public.

 

Yeah, right

 

How did Clinton receive and consume classified information?

 

The Secretary's office was located in a secure area. Classified information was viewed in hard copy by Clinton while in the office. While on travel, the State Department had rigorous protocols for her and traveling staff to receive and transmit information of all types.

A separate, closed email system was used by the State Department for the purpose of handling classified communications, which was designed to prevent such information from being transmitted anywhere other than within that system.

 

NON-ANSWER.  If that is true, how did it happen?  ANSWER THE QUESTION!  Who sent you these classified emails without markings?  And who did you send classified emails without markings to (even though the NDA you signed stated you would recognize classified and SAP information even if it was not marked).  In a last ditch desperate act, State has removed the To From and FWD markings from all Hildabeast emails they released the last two months

 

Is Department of Justice conducting a criminal inquiry into Clinton’s email use?

 

No. As the Department of Justice and Inspectors General made clear, the IGs made a security referral. This was not criminal in nature as misreported by some in the press. The Department of Justice is now seeking assurances about the storage of materials related to Clinton’s email account.

 

We know not what the FBI is investigating, but the violations of Title 18 call for jail time, so that to me is criminal.

 

Is it true that her email server and a thumb drive were recently turned over to the government? Why?

 

Again, when information is reviewed for public release, it is common for information previously unclassified to be upgraded to classified if the State Department or another agency believes its public release could cause potential harm to national security, law enforcement or diplomatic relations.

 

Which the signed NDA required her to do, which she failed miserably to do.

 

Clinton hopes that State and the other agencies involved in the review process will sort out as quickly as possible which emails are appropriate to share with the public, and that the release will be as timely and as transparent as possible.

 

Yeah, right.

 

When the Department upgraded some of the previously unclassified email to classified, her team worked with the State Department to ensure copies of her emails were stored in a safe and secure manner. She also directed her team to give her server that hosted her email account while she was Secretary to the Department of Justice, as well as a thumb drive containing copies of her emails that already had been provided to the State Department. Clinton has pledged to cooperate with the government's security inquiry.

 

And we know that before this time the server was not secure and that there were other born classified emails on said server.  The thumb drive was given to her lawyer, who did not have clearance to possess the information on the drive.

 

Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

 

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

 

While the State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the emails that recently were upgraded to classified prior to public release were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications.

 

LIE  we know there are at least the two emails generated by CIA and NGA that were only on the secured system.

 

Have Clinton's State Department aides also been asked to provide the Department and Congress with emails from their personal accounts?

 

We understand that members of her State Department staff were recently asked to assist the Department in its record-keeping by providing any work-related emails they may have on personal accounts. They have received requests from Rep. Gowdy as well.

 

And we must trust them for any email used on Hildabeast’s server.

 

Clinton is proud of the work of all the dedicated public servants that were part of her team at the State Department. She was proud of her aides then and is proud of them now, as they have committed - as she has - to being as helpful as possible in responding to requests.

 

I’m sure she’s proud….that none of them have flipped….YET

 

Press reports say she used multiple devices – a Blackberry and an iPad – is that true?

 

Clinton relied on her Blackberry for emailing. This was easiest for her. When the iPad came out in 2010, she was as curious as others and found it great for shopping, browsing, and reading articles when she traveled. She also had access to her email account on her iPad and sometimes used it for that too.

 

So forget about the LIE Hildabeast originally told when she said she only used one device.

 

Was she ever provided guidance about her use of a non-".gov" email account?

 

The State Department has and did provide guidance regarding the need to preserve federal records. To address these requirements, it was her practice to email government employees on their ".gov" email address. That way, work emails would be immediately captured and preserved in government record-keeping systems.

 

Strawman and LIE  State did have rules for preservation, Hildabeast just ignored them, just like she ignored the NDA she signed.  And it is a proven LIE that her practice was to email .gov accounts.

 

What did Clinton provide to the State Department?

 

On December 5, 2014, 30,490 copies of work or potentially work-related emails sent and received by Clinton from March 18, 2009, to February 1, 2013, were provided to the State Department. This totaled roughly 55,000 pages. More than 90% of her work or potentially work-related emails provided to the Department were already in the State Department's record-keeping system because those e-mails were sent to or received by "state.gov" accounts.

 

Strawman  State was supposed to have all emails and they were supposed to determine what was and was not work related.

 

Early in her term, Clinton continued using an att.blackberry.net account that she had used during her Senate service. Given her practice from the beginning of emailing State Department officials on their state.gov accounts, her work-related emails during these initial weeks would have been captured and preserved in the State Department's record-keeping system. She, however, no longer had access to these emails once she transitioned from this account.

 

AGAIN, it has been shown by the released emails (that had the TO FROM & FWD included), Hildabeast has proven this was not her regular practice

 

Why did the Select Committee announce that she used multiple email addresses during her tenure?

 

In fairness to the Committee, this was an honest misunderstanding. Clinton used one email account during her tenure at State (with the exception of her initial weeks in office while transitioning from an email account she had previously used). In March 2013, a month after she left the Department, Gawker published the email address she used while Secretary, and so she had to change the address on her account.

 

“In fairness” because Hildabeast originally claimed to only use one account it only became a misunderstanding when evidence emerged she LIED and used at least two accounts.

 

At the time the printed copies were provided to the Department in 2014, because it was the same account, the new email address established after she left office appeared on the printed copies as the sender, and not the address she used as Secretary. In fact, this address on the account did not exist until March 2013. This led to understandable confusion that was cleared up directly with the Committee after its press conference.

 

So Hildabeast officially submitted inaccurate information and when caught had to explain that since her confidant Sid was hacked there would be accurate copies available somewhere.

Also makes you wonder that if someone hacked Sid and saw all the information about Hildabeast, wouldn’t they try to hack her too?  But I digress

 

Why didn't Clinton provide her emails to the State Department until December 2014?

 

In 2014, after recognizing potential gaps in its overall recordkeeping system, the State Department asked for the help of the four previous former Secretaries in meeting the State Department's obligations under the Federal Records Act.

 

Strawman  The only one State did not have records for was Hildabeast,  And that Federal Records Act already required Hildabeat turn over her emails before leaving

 

Clinton responded to this request by providing the State Department with over 55,000 pages of emails. As it was Clinton's practice to email U.S. government officials on their .gov accounts, the overwhelming majority of these emails should have already been preserved in the State Department’s email system.

 

Strawman, see required above

 

In providing these emails to the Department, Clinton included all she had that were even potentially work-related—including emails about using a fax machine or asking for iced tea during a meeting—erring on the side of over-inclusion, as confirmed by the Department and National Archives' determination that over 1250 emails were "personal" records (which they have indicated will be returned to her).

 

Strawman  State was to decide what was and was not work related

 

After providing her work and potentially work-related emails, she chose not to keep her personal, non-work related emails, which by definition, are not federal records and were not requested by the Department or anyone else.

 

Strawman, again, not up to her to decide

 

Why did the State Department ask for assistance in collecting records? Why did the State Department need assistance in further meeting its requirements under the Federal Records Act?

 

The State Department formally requested the assistance of the four previous former Secretaries in a letter to their representatives dated October 28, 2014, to help in further meeting the Department’s requirements under the Federal Records Act.

 

The letter stated that in September 2013, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) issued new guidance clarifying records management responsibilities regarding the use of personal email accounts for government business.

 

While this guidance was issued after all four former Secretaries had departed office, the Department decided to ensure its records were as complete as possible and sought copies of work emails sent or received by the Secretaries on their own accounts.

 

Strawman, only one of the four used a private email server.  The other three had already turned over their private email ON PUBLIC SERVERS.

 

Why did Clinton decide not to keep her personal emails?

 

As Clinton has said before, these were private, personal messages, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral services and condolence notes, as well as emails on family vacations, yoga routines, and other items one would typically find in their own email account, such as offers from retailers, spam, etc.

 

LIE  she has given me every reason not to believe her and no reason to believe.

 

Did Clinton delete any emails while facing a subpoena?

 

No. As noted, the emails that Clinton chose not to keep were personal emails—they were not federal records or even work-related—and therefore were not subject to any preservation obligation under the Federal Records Act or any request. Nor would they have been subject to the subpoena—which did not exist at the time—that was issued by the Benghazi Select Committee some three months later.

 

No, they were deleted before being subpoenaed

 

Rep. Gowdy's subpoena issued in March 2015 did not seek, and had nothing to do with, her personal, non-work emails nor her server nor the request by State Department last year for her help in their own record-keeping. Indeed in his March 19th letter, Rep. Gowdy expressly stated he was not seeking any emails that were "purely personal in nature."

 

Strawman, Gowdy only looking at Benghazi not her overall email situation

 

In March 2015, when Rep. Gowdy issued a subpoena to Clinton, the State Department had received all of Clinton's work-related emails in response to their 2014 request, and indeed, had already provided Clinton's relevant emails to Rep. Gowdy’s committee.

 

Rep. Gowdy, other Republicans, and some members of the media have seized on a CNN interview with Clinton to question her on this point. Rep. Gowdy has even gone so far as to say Clinton is lying. But he and the others are clearly mistaken.

 

Now since State has flatly stated some of the emails will never be released because they contain SAP information we will never know if Gowdy ever received all relevant information.

 

As Vox reported, "he didn't lie about the subpoena. … Clinton clearly wasn't responding to the question of whether she'd ever been subpoenaed by the Benghazi Committee but whether she'd been subpoenaed before she wiped the emails from her server." Additionally, Factcheck.org said in its analysis, "Clinton's denial came in response to a question about deleting emails 'while facing a subpoena,' and Clinton objected to Keilar's 'assumption.' Clinton’s campaign said that the emails were deleted before she received the subpoena and that was the point Clinton was making." Politifact added, "Suggesting that Clinton deleted emails while facing a subpoena contradicts what we know about the controversy so far."

 

Strawman, the point is that it was not up to Hildabeast what to keep and what to destroy

 

Vox went on to further decry Rep. Gowdy's reaction, saying, "[T]his one's a particularly absurd gimmick, even for a committee that is selectively leaking from depositions and documents to justify its existence. If there was a more extreme category of dissembling than 'pants on fire,' now would be the time for Politifact to roll it out on the House Republicans."

 

Attack the investigator

 

Why was the State Department given printed copies?

 

That is the requirement. The instructions regarding electronic mail in the Foreign Affairs Manual (the Department's policy manual) require that "until technology allowing archival capabilities for long-term electronic storage and retrieval of email messages is available and installed, those messages warranting preservation as records (for periods longer than current E-mail systems routinely maintain them) must be printed out and filed with related records." [5 FAM 443.3].

 

Now Hildabeast is a stickler for the rules

 

Were any work items deleted in the course of producing the printed copies?

 

No.

 

LIE, because Hildabeast said it.  And since we know Sid turned over several emails that Hildabeast did not turn over this can only be true if the emails were deleted prior to producing the printed copies.

 

How many emails were in her account? And how many of those were provided to the State Department?

 

Her email account contained a total of 62,320 sent and received emails from March 2009 to February 2013. Based on the review process described below, 30,490 of these emails were provided to the Department, and the remaining 31,830 were private, personal records.

Strawman, all were to be left with State to determine the status

 

How and who decided what should be provided to the State Department?

 

The Federal Records Act puts the obligation on the government official to determine what is and is not a federal record. The State Department Foreign Affairs Manual outlines guidance "designed to help employees determine which of their e-mail messages must be preserved as federal records and which may be deleted without further authorization because they are not Federal record materials." [5 FAM 443.1©].

 

Following conversations with State Department officials and in response to the State Department's 2014 letter to former Secretaries, Clinton directed her attorneys to assist by identifying and preserving all emails that could potentially be federal records. This entailed a multi-step process to review each email and provide printed copies of Clinton's emails to the State Department, erring on the side of including anything that might be even potentially work-related.

 

Attorneys that were not authorized to view classified information

 

A search was conducted on Clinton's email account for all emails sent and received from 2009 to her last day in office, February 1, 2013.

 

After this universe was determined, a search was conducted for a ".gov" (not just state.gov) in any address field in an email. This produced over 27,500 emails, representing more than 90% of the 30,490 printed copies that were provided to the State Department.

 

To help identify any potential non-".gov" correspondence that should be included, a search of first and last names of more than 100 State Department and other U.S. government officials was performed. This included all Deputy Secretaries, Under Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries, Ambassadors-at-Large, Special Representatives and Envoys, members of the Secretary's Foreign Policy Advisory Board, and other senior officials to the Secretary, including close aides and staff.

 

Next, to account for non-obvious or non-recognizable email addresses or misspellings or other idiosyncrasies, the emails were sorted and reviewed both by sender and recipient.

 

Lastly, a number of terms were specifically searched for, including: "Benghazi" and "Libya."

 

These additional three steps yielded just over another 2,900 emails, including emails from former Administration officials and long-time friends that may not be deemed by the State Department to be federal records. And hundreds of these emails actually had already been forwarded onto the state.gov system and captured in real-time.

 

With respect to materials that the Select Committee has requested, the State Department has stated that just under 300 emails related to Libya were provided by the State Department to the Select Committee in response to a November 2014 letter, which contained a broader request for materials than prior requests from the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.

 

Given Clinton's practice of emailing State Department officials on their state.gov addresses, the State Department already had, and had already provided, the Select Committee with emails from Clinton in August 2014 – prior to requesting and receiving printed copies of her emails.

 

The review process described above confirmed Clinton's practice of emailing State Department officials on their .gov address, with the vast majority of the printed copies of work-related emails Clinton provided to the State Department simply duplicating what was already captured in the State Department's record-keeping system in real time.

 

A subpoena for Hildabeasts emails does not allow investigators to access other .gov email accounts to locate Hildabeasts emails

 

Did Clinton use this account to communicate with foreign officials?

 

During her time at State, she communicated with foreign officials in person, through correspondence, and by telephone. The review of all of her emails revealed only one email with a foreign (UK) official.

 

And sent classified SAP level information that as per her signed NDA she should have known whether marked or unmarked.

 

Did she withhold any work emails? What about the 15 emails that Sid Blumenthal provided to the Select Committee that she did not provide to the State Department?

 

She provided the State Department with all work and potentially work-related emails that she had, including all of her correspondence with Sid Blumenthal. We understand that Mr. Blumenthal had some emails that Clinton did not have, and Clinton had some emails that Mr. Blumenthal did not have, but it is important to note that none of those emails provide any new insights on the attack on our facilities in Benghazi.

 

Strawman may not have provided new insights, but were clearly “work related” emails Hildabeast did not turn over.  Rendering her turned over all emails claim in the first sentence another proven LIE

 

Do you think a third party should have been allowed to review what was turned over to the State Department, as well as the remainder that was not?

 

The Federal Records Act puts the obligation on the government official, not the agency or a third party, to determine what is and is not a federal record. The State Department Foreign Affairs Manual outlines guidance "designed to help employees determine which of their e-mail messages must be preserved as federal records and which may be deleted without further authorization because they are not Federal record materials." [5 FAM 443.1©].

 

But until the Clinton server, the vast majority were already on government servers

 

Clinton responded to the State Department's request by providing approximately 55,000 pages of her work and potentially work-related emails. She has also taken the unprecedented step of asking that those emails be made public. In doing so, she has sought to support the State Department's efforts, fulfill her responsibility of record-keeping, and provide the chance for the public to assess the work she and officials at the State Department did during her tenure.

 

After her work-related emails were identified and preserved, Clinton chose not to keep her private, personal emails that were not federal records, including emails about her daughter's wedding plans, her mother's funeral service, family vacations, etc.

 

Don’t forget she originally claimed emails to her husband until it became known that Bill doesn’t email so none existed

 

Government officials are granted the privacy of their personal, non-work related emails, including personal emails on .gov accounts. Clinton exercised her privilege to ensure the continued privacy of her personal, non-work related emails.

 

And we all know we can trust Hildabeast

 

Can't she release the emails she provided to the State Department herself?

 

Because the printed copies of work-related emails she provided to the State Department include federal records of the Department, the Department needs to review these emails before they can be made public. She called for them to be made available as soon as possible, and is glad to see the Department has begun releasing them.

 

Except for all those that contain classified information

 

Some of the emails released show Clinton emailed aides at times on their personal, rather than .gov accounts. Was she trying to hide these communications?

 

As Clinton has said before, it was her practice to email U.S. government officials on their .gov accounts if it was work-related. This is evidenced in the emails released so far. In reviewing her emails in 2014, there was a fraction of emails with work-related information sent to U.S. government officials’ personal accounts, and those were provided to the State Department. The overwhelming majority of her work-related emails were to .gov accounts.

 

Again, trust Hildabeast, she would never lie

 

Where was the server for her email located?

 

The server for her email was physically located on her property, which is protected by U.S. Secret Service.

 

Strawman, they were protecting the property, not the server

 

What level of encryption was employed? Who was the service provider?

 

The security and integrity of her family's electronic communications was taken seriously from the onset when it was first set up for President Clinton's team. While the curiosity about the specifics of this set up is understandable, given what people with ill intentions can do with such information in this day and age, there are concerns about broadcasting specific technical details about past and current practices. Suffice it to say, robust protections were put in place and additional upgrades and techniques employed over time as they became available, including consulting and employing third party experts.

 

Again, trust Hildabeast

 

Was the server ever hacked?

 

No, there is no evidence there was ever a breach.

 

There is also no evidence it was not hacked.  In fact it is strongly believed that it was hacked

 

Was there ever an unauthorized intrusion into her email or did anyone else have access to it?

 

No.

 

And you know this because……

 

What was done after her email was exposed in February 2013 after the hacker known as "Guccifer" hacked Sid Blumenthal’s account?

 

While this was not a breach of Clinton's account, because her email address was exposed, steps were taken at that time to ensure the security and integrity of her electronic communications, including changing her email address.

 

That’s it!?!?   I know I feel better

 

Was the State Department able to respond to requests related to FOIA or Congressional requests before they received printed copies of her work-related emails?

 

Yes. As the Select Committee has said, the State Department provided the Committee with relevant emails it already had on the state.gov system before the State Department requested any printed copies from former Secretaries, and four months before the State Department received the printed copies.

 

Just not ALL of them since State did not have them

 

For example, in the well-publicized hack of Sid Blumenthal's email account, a note he sent Clinton on September 12, 2012, was posted online. At first blush, one might not think this exchange would be captured on the state.gov system. But in fact, Clinton forwarded the email, that very same day, onto the state.gov system. And the email was produced by the State Department to the Select Committee, and acknowledged by the Select Committee, in August 2014.

 

For another example they have said above that Sid had work related emails Hildabeast did not turn over.  Proving Hildabeast did delete emails and did not turn them over to State.

 

This example illustrates: 1) when an email from a non-".gov" sender had some connection to work or might add to the understanding of State Department officials, it was Clinton’s practice to forward it to officials at their "state.gov" address; and 2) the State Department was able to search and produce Clinton’s emails when needed long before, and unrelated to, receiving the printed copies as they were already captured on state.gov accounts.

 

And any not sent to a .gov account were at the mercy of the Hildabeast server wiper.  And she must be believed even when proven a liar.

 

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

 

 

When looking at the two NDAs she signed it can be stated without a doubt that Hildabeast was responsible for determining what classified information was if received (even if not marked classified) and that she would not send or negligently store said classified information. 

http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/HRC-SCI-NDA1.pdf

http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/HRC-classified-NDA1.pdf

She violated these requirements at least 1500 (times and counting).

 

We also have learned that the SAP information consisted of drone information and North Korea troop movements.  If this information was shared with Tony Blair as has been reported, that would appear to violate

 

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information

Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person…..

(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government;

 

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

 

And without question, the fact that classified information was on her unsecured server Hildabeast is most definitely in violation of

 

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

 

So maybe I was wrong on that 10-20 years Hildabeast is looking at, looks more like 1500. 

And remember, anytime you hear one of Hildabeasts brain dead minions say “not marked classified” or “allowed at the time” or “done nothing wrong” that it is not only   , it’s HildaBS.  RV ME

[George Hayduke]

Excellent job counselor.  Thanks for taking the the time to break it down - not many would and that is exactly what the Hildabeast Rat Pack expect.

 

I would add one more clarification from my past experience working with the DOD that required me having a Secret Clearance.  Perhaps things have changed in the last five years but my recollection is that the word 'Classification' is really a word of art and at best a title of definitions not a 'clearance' classification in itself.

 

In one regard Clinton is telling the truth in that none of the emails were marked 'Classified' because 'Classified' Material is marked by the definers: Official, Secret, Top Secret and (tongue in cheek Secret Squirrel Secret)  Each level represents the lowest level by which if known to 'non-cleared' persons represents the amount of damage that could reasonably be expected against the US Government.  Additionally, the use of force from mere physical detention to the use of deadly force supports each level of classification in order to contain or minimize the damage to the interest of the US government. 

 

For me, two things come to mind; (1 ) Hildabeast knows exactly what she is saying which makes her obfuscation just that more reprehensible and (2):  How and why is she getting away with it?

 

Trey Gowdy may have a place for you on his team.

Edited February 1, 2016 by George Hayduke

[Shabibilicious]

Too bad, really......back in the old days, they would just grab the nearest E-2 flatfoot and have him hand carry a "Top Secret" envelope to it's destination.  Now that was secure.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[Bunk]

Too bad, really......back in the old days, they would just grab the nearest E-2 flatfoot and have him hand carry a "Top Secret" envelope to it's destination.  Now that was secure.    

 

GO RV, then 

 

 Good to see You back in the fray..

[Shabibilicious]

 Good to see You back in the fray..

 

I have a little time today.....so I thought I'd poke a little fun at the desperate and downtrodden.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[Whatshername]

Great Post!  Thanks 

[RV ME]

Excellent job counselor.  Thanks for taking the the time to break it down - not many would and that is exactly what the Hildabeast Rat Pack expect.

 

I would add one more clarification from my past experience working with the DOD that required me having a Secret Clearance.  Perhaps things have changed in the last five years but my recollection is that the word 'Classification' is really a word of art and at best a title of definitions not a 'clearance' classification in itself.

 

In one regard Clinton is telling the truth in that none of the emails were marked 'Classified' because 'Classified' Material is marked by the definers: Official, Secret, Top Secret and (tongue in cheek Secret Squirrel Secret)  Each level represents the lowest level by which if known to 'non-cleared' persons represents the amount of damage that could reasonably be expected against the US Government.  Additionally, the use of force from mere physical detention to the use of deadly force supports each level of classification in order to contain or minimize the damage to the interest of the US government. 

 

For me, two things come to mind; (1 ) Hildabeast knows exactly what she is saying which makes her obfuscation just that more reprehensible and (2):  How and why is she getting away with it?

 

Trey Gowdy may have a place for you on his team.

 

Thanks for the insight George, and I would love to interrogate The Beast and her staff.  Based on what is already known I could come up with several interesting lines of questions. 

 

It appears Hildabeast has decided her best bet is to keep saying “not marked classified” and to deflect the blame onto her staff and the vast right wing conspiracy when she said yesterday;

 

”There is no classified marked information on those emails sent or received by me," she said, adding that “Republicans are going to continue to use it [to] beat up on me.” & "When you receive information, of course, there has to be some markings, some indication that someone down the chain had thought that this was classified and that was not the case.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/01/official-withheld-clinton-emails-contain-operational-intel-put-lives-at-risk.html?intcmp=hplnws

 

Her NDA states

 

“I hereby acknowledge that I received a security indoctrination concerning the nature and protection of SCI…”  “…I hereby agree that I will never divulge anything marked SCI or that I know to be SCI…”

 

Knowing she instructed Sullivan to remove all markings from a classified document and send it via unsecured fax, do you think she can plausibly claim she did not know she was dealing with SCI information especially after have the security indoctrination she swore she had?

 

Another question, the article linked above talks about how it is likely that operational programs were necessarily changed when it was learned that this information was on Hildabeasts unsecured server, do you think that would be an accurate statement?

[George Hayduke]

Thanks for the insight George, and I would love to interrogate The Beast and her staff.  Based on what is already known I could come up with several interesting lines of questions. 

 

It appears Hildabeast has decided her best bet is to keep saying “not marked classified” and to deflect the blame onto her staff and the vast right wing conspiracy when she said yesterday;

 

”There is no classified marked information on those emails sent or received by me," she said, adding that “Republicans are going to continue to use it [to] beat up on me.” & "When you receive information, of course, there has to be some markings, some indication that someone down the chain had thought that this was classified and that was not the case.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/01/official-withheld-clinton-emails-contain-operational-intel-put-lives-at-risk.html?intcmp=hplnws

 

Her NDA states

 

“I hereby acknowledge that I received a security indoctrination concerning the nature and protection of SCI…”  “…I hereby agree that I will never divulge anything marked SCI or that I know to be SCI…”

 

Knowing she instructed Sullivan to remove all markings from a classified document and send it via unsecured fax, do you think she can plausibly claim she did not know she was dealing with SCI information especially after have the security indoctrination she swore she had?

 

Another question, the article linked above talks about how it is likely that operational programs were necessarily changed when it was learned that this information was on Hildabeasts unsecured server, do you think that would be an accurate statement?

 

'Knowing she instructed Sullivan to remove all markings from a classified document and send it via unsecured fax, do you think she can plausibly claim she did not know she was dealing with SCI information especially after have the security indoctrination she swore she had?"

 

No way. if anything it reveals culpability and collusion.  Anybody else would be dead meat and she better be too.

 

"Another question, the article linked above talks about how it is likely that operational programs were necessarily changed when it was learned that this information was on Hildabeasts unsecured server, do you think that would be an accurate statement?"

 

Yes, is the simple and direct answer.

 

Intelligence is a fluid matrix to begin with.  It’s much like playing three-D Chinese checkers; one move ALWAYS necessitates another move – but in what direction is the question.

 

That is where Intel analysts’ expertise comes into play.  In a nut shell that is the process but, purpose and function is the driver or fuel as it were.  And the two big ones are:

 

Diplomacy

 

Counterinsurgency

 

They are two distant cousins linked at the hip with one becoming dominate over the other at any given time.

 

Diplomacy does not always mean handshakes and champagne and, Counterinsurgency doesn’t always mean armed rebels.

 

But what they both always mean is that their attempts to gather information are intended to influence a matrix of power one direction or the other.

 

And, when a dweeb or spy falls into the matrix all Operational Programs (out to the point of minimal damage as assessed and projected by Intel Analyst) are shuttered and players are repositioned.

 

It's similar to fighting a fire in the middle of a nuclear submarine on a training mission to the North Pole;  the original goal has changed and if the fire is not met head on the results will be devastating.

 

If it’s any solace to you, any damage that Hildabeast has done has already been mitigated.  All that is left is for a Constitutional Conscience to awaken within the Justice Department and for the AG prosecute her for crimes that had you or I committed, we’d already being mowing lawns at Leavenworth.

[Shabibilicious]

Get some sleep, Pam......you look tired.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[Jaxinjersey]

Get some sleep, Pam......you look tired.    

 

GO RV, then BV

... cue dramatic Bourne music to Pam's whiplash head turn!!!!   I'd love to have Jason on this case!!!

 

Good stuff RV ME... thanks for the in-depth!!!

Edited February 2, 2016 by Jaxinjersey

[Whatshername]

I say waterboard her!

 

 

 

Get some sleep, Pam......you look tired.    

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

... cue dramatic Bourne music to Pam's whiplash head turn!!!!   I'd love to have Jason on this case!!!

 

Good stuff RV ME... thanks for the in-depth!!!

 

[Jaxinjersey]

I say waterboard her!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perfect, WHN!  Maybe not whiplash... but perfect! 

 

Oh, and as per the Hildabeast post.... I've been pushing that exact query!!!   First time I've seen it presented... perfect, again, in its simplicity! 

Edited February 2, 2016 by Jaxinjersey

[Shabibilicious]

One minute you all want transparency.....the next minute, secrecy.  Make up your minds already.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[Jaxinjersey]

One minute you all want transparency.....the next minute, secrecy.  Make up your minds already.    

 

GO RV, then BV

Wut?  

[Whatshername]

One minute you all want transparency.....the next minute, secrecy.  Make up your minds already.    

 

GO RV, then BV

 

Nonsense... all we want is JUSTICE (an indictment followed by a conviction with a loooooooong prison term)! 

 

[Shabibilicious]

Wut?  

 

My point is this. This article, for example lacks need for a retort, simply because it's preaching to the choir.  99.9% of the folks on this site despise all things Clinton.  Why keep kicking a dead horse, when everybody already agrees it's dead?  I guess I don't feel like anybody has been enlightened to the fact that they might already distrust H. Clinton.  Maybe these articles are posted for my benefit.....but I would be presumptuous to think such a thing.  As always, just my opinion.    

 

GO RV, then BV 

Nonsense... all we want is JUSTICE (an indictment followed by a conviction with a loooooooong prison term)! 

 

Well then.....feel free to continue talking among yourselves.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[George Hayduke]

OK, and in the words of the great Sandfly, Thanks! 

 

Raising hand eagerly - I'll start out by answering your question with one name: Earl Stanley Gardner.

 

Your turn Ms. Ratchet.

[Jaxinjersey]

My point is this. This article, for example lacks need for a retort, simply because it's preaching to the choir.  99.9% of the folks on this site despise all things Clinton.  Why keep kicking a dead horse, when everybody already agrees it's dead?  I guess I don't feel like anybody has been enlightened to the fact that they might already distrust H. Clinton.  Maybe these articles are posted for my benefit.....but I would be presumptuous to think such a thing.  As always, just my opinion.    

 

GO RV, then BV 

 

Well then.....feel free to continue talking among yourselves.    

 

GO RV, then BV

But the horse isn't near dead yet.  It's simply vigilance, Shabs.  They're posted for everyone!  I don't think RV ME spent his valuable time (a lot of it, thank you!) to simply receive validation.  The facts need to be constantly "bumped"!!!

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

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[SnowGlobe7]

If it ws dead she would be gone...out of sight...but the beast is running for friggin president!!!!

[pattyangel]

Well done RV ME, information that the ignorant will ignore, and continue to support the lies and deceptions. 

 

Double Bumping... 

[Whatshername]

 Why keep kicking a dead horse, when everybody already agrees it's dead?

GO RV, then BV 

 

 

 

OK, and in the words of the great Sandfly, Thanks! 

 

Raising hand eagerly - I'll start out by answering your question with one name: Earl Stanley Gardner.

 

Your turn Ms. Ratchet.

 

I will name that tune in 3 notes, George!

 

 

  1.As of now, she is still a ‘viable’ candidate for PRESIDENT.

 

 

  2.The media downplays and spins (if mentioned at all) the facts of every Clinton scandal.

 

 

  3.You don’t understand our diligence like we don’t understand your passivity.  Which is worse – Ignorance or Apathy?

 

 

    If obama is an empty chair, let this be Hidabeast’s throne…

 

 

 

[pattyangel]

LOL!!! WHN can't leave the Whoopie cushion!!!! 

[pattyangel]

Sorry guys, meant to say "can't leave out the Whoopie Cushion "  

 

My mother was calling me and I left out a word.  But with your great minds I know you all could figure it out. 

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

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CRIMINALarious Klinton is embroiled in no fewer than 27 scandals to date.

 

This murderous, monstrous thief, liar and power-monger will only GET WORSE if allowed to ever again be

in a position of power or Trust.

 

She has NO LIMITS to her evil intent where humanity is concerned.

  It's all about her and hers & NO ONE ELSE !

 

Why would anyone be so ignorant as to support THAT criminal and her mental instability and

BROKEN  moral compass...?!  

 

If you need further measure of the evil which awaits you when given the power to put her boot on your neck,

think about this:

 

'Gorge' Soros has supplied a full 25% of her campaign funds.   He epitomizes EVIL.  

 

 Anyone care to guess where this Republic is headed if he now owns that much of The Oval Office...? 

 

 Don't be a moron.  Do all you can to take this evil down !