yota691 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Pentagon: 2 U.S. Navy Boats With 10 American Sailors Held by Iran Militaryby JIM MIKLASZEWSKI and COURTNEY KUBE Iranian military forces seized two U.S. Navy boats Tuesday and are detaining them on Iran's Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf, senior U.S. officials told NBC News. The 10 American sailors were on a training mission around noon ET when one of the boats may have experienced mechanical failure and drifted into Iranian-claimed waters, officials said. Iran's coast guard took them into custody. The officials said it's unclear whether the sailors — nine men and one woman — aboard the two small riverine vessels had strayed into Iranian territorial waters before they were captured. NBC Special Report: U.S. Ships Held by Iranian Forces 2:12 "At this point, we're still monitoring the situation and it's not entirely clear what happened," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said on MSNBC, adding that Iranian authorities confirmed that the sailors are safe. Earnest said there remained no exact time frame for when the sailors would be let go, but didn't expect a long delay. Following reports of the incident, Secretary of State John Kerry spoke with Iranian officials in Tehran by phone, attempting to secure the sailors' release. One senior official told NBC News the Iranians understand it was a mistake and have agreed to release the Americans in international waters within hours. The Persian Gulf has been a flash point in the Middle East, and the incident comes on the same day President Barack Obama is set to give his annual State of the Union address. Riverine Command Boat (RCB) 802, assigned to Combined Task Group (CTG) 56.7, conducts patrol operations in the Arabian Gulf in Oct. 2015. Two small riverine vessels of this type were detained on Iran's Farsi Island. MC2 Torrey W. Lee / U.S. Navy Senior U.S. military commanders also criticized Iran last month for its "highly provocative" actions when it fired unguided rockets near U.S. ships, including the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier. Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook told The Associated Press that the boats were moving between Kuwait and Bahrain when U.S. officials lost contact with them. Farsi Island sits in the Persian Gulf in between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and is fortified by Iranian Revolutionary Guards. "We have been in contact with Iran and have received assurances that the crew and the vessels will be returned promptly," Cook said. Retired Army Gen. Barry McCaffrey, an NBC News military analyst, said the seizure of American boats is "very bad news" and highlights how the Navy may have failed to have surveillance on its vessels. "We simply can't allow ground, air or naval units to be seized by a foreign hostile power," McCaffrey said on MSNBC. "I hope they're back real quickly. This is an affront to our military presence in the Gulf and will unsettle our allies in the region." GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush was among the first to attack Obama for appearing weak in front of Iran, which has been at odds with the U.S. over a nuclear deal that was finally reached last year. "No more bargaining. Obama's humiliatingly weak Iran policy is exposed again," Bush tweeted. But Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., said on MSNBC that the pending release of the sailors shows how diplomacy between U.S. and Iranian officials "is working." "Hopefully this will be resolved, and it won't be an issue that we're talking about in a couple of hours," she said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel7 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 They never intended to keep them. They just wanted to show the world that they could take actions against the U.S. with impunity. There will be no repercussions against Iran for anything that has transpired. Obama’s deal with Iran will still go through unfettered even though there will more incidents. No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texstorm Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 F them , drop a FN nuke !!!!!!! Those little B's don't deserve to live ! Thanks to our weak SOB's in the White House Iran will probably get a medal ! BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME ! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new york kevin Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 CNN said the Iranian's will return the US Navy Sailors, including one woman, plus the two boats immediately. Immediately being as soon as daylight comes. Well if I got it correct, right now it should be around 1pm Iranian time. Do we have our people and equipment back yet? What is our wuss Commander in disbelief gonna do about it? Will he sacrifice his ego and do what is right and re-institute the sanctions and keep the $150 billion dollars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Anyone still think that oil wont EXPLODE over $150 by the end of the yr? How long do you think it will be before those Persian morons really do piss someone off and start WWIII? Folks we now have a bully on the block, and he's not going away until someone shuts his mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Iran's Revolutionary Guards announced the release of American sailorsBy Shunem Abdullah Khoshnaw one hour ago Boat continued US Navy Roudao - Arbil,said Iran's Revolutionary Guards, for the release of American sailors ten, who Tehran has detained Zorekayam, on Tuesday. The statement said the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, broadcast on state television, on Wednesday, "After the audit, showing that they enter the territorial waters of the country was not on purpose, and then bring them to apologize, have been released in international waters. " The commander of the naval forces of the Revolutionary Guard, Admiral Ali Fadavi, he said that the work of American sailors ten "It was not a hostile was not aimed at spying," explaining that "after scrutiny, turned out that the entry of American sailors into Iranian territorial waters caused by a malfunction in the navigation system. "As the United States announced on Tuesday, losing contact Bzourguin warheads small children were in the trip between Kuwait and Bahrain, but stressed received assurances from Iran that it will allow them to quickly complete the way. The He said Iran's Revolutionary Guards at dawn today that two boats fighter Americans, carrying ten sailors armed Iranian territorial waters income Tuesday, 16.30 pm (13.00 GMT) near Farsi Island has been detained by units of warships of the Navy of the Revolutionary Guards and took them to the island. Against the backdrop of Therefore, US Secretary of State John Kerry telephoned Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif, in which they discussed the issue of the boats fighter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatdawg Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 F them , drop a FN nuke !!!!!!! Those little B's don't deserve to live ! Thanks to our weak SOB's in the White House Iran will probably get a medal ! BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME ! I'd say those sailors should be discharged for not being able to read a GPS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 US captain apologizes for making mistake by entering Iran’s watersPublished on Jan 13, 2016 The US sailors who strayed into Iran’s territorial waters have apologized for the incident describing it as a mistake on their part.The US commander also thanked the Iranians for their hospitality during the time they were held captive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'd say those sailors should be discharged for not being able to read a GPS. It was planned, scripted and a perfectly executed operation. I know this because according to the U.C.M.J. {Uniform Code of Military Justice} any American personnel giving any type of information to an enemy force would be immediately brought up on charges of treason. They would never had told Iran that it was there fault, or that they were sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatdawg Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 It was planned, scripted and a perfectly executed operation. I know this because according to the U.C.M.J. {Uniform Code of Military Justice} any American personnel giving any type of information to an enemy force would be immediately brought up on charges of treason. They would never had told Iran that it was there fault, or that they were sorry. Iran is our enemy and a war has been declared? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog53 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Iran is our enemy Absolute fact 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatdawg Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Iran is our enemy Absolute fact Why? They've never attacked us. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 neither did Russisa...but remember the cold war? all political moves against each other without and "official" shot being fired, although many were killed in service on both sides tring to gain the upper foot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Why? They've never attacked us. Tell that to the Iranian hostages during the Carter administration. Tell The Ayatollah Khomeini that we're not enemies. What are you thinking? They want to KILL you and Your entire family. What? You think their friends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) No one should make the mistake of demonizing an entire group of people just because their leadership can be idiots. I know a lot of folks who have spent time in Iran and were treated excellent in every way. It is the religious idiots in any country that cause so much harm, and iran is no exception. They are under religious rule by a bunch of pompous leaders and can do little about it just like many other countries, but it is wrong for anyone to think their leadership represents the people because it doesn't at all. Most of the people desire freedom and wish their government would keep their noses out of their business, just like many other countries. Edited January 14, 2016 by Jim1cor13 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Good point about pointing fingers...what comes to mind is this presstv video interview, perhaps along the same line of thought? Israeli lobby behind US anti-Iran policies: Pundit http://presstv.com/Detail/2016/01/08/444963/US-Iran-Israel-Lobby-JCPOA-OKeefe-Assouline/ Press TV has conducted an interview with former US marine Ken O'Keefe in London, and journalist and Philippe Assouline, a Middle East expert from Los Angeles, to discuss the approval of a bill by the US House of Representatives that would limit Washington’s ability to lift anti-Iran bans as agreed in last July’s nuclear agreement. O’Keefe said the West needs the narrative against Iran’s nuclear program in order to advance the Israeli agenda in the Middle East, adding that the warmongering regime in Tel Aviv has been fueling tensions in the region. The Israeli lobby is “part and parcel of the ruling class of America,” said the analyst, stressing that Washington’s policies do not reflect the nation’s interests and serve Israeli goals in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and elsewhere. He rejected as baseless the claims that Iran is after developing nuclear weapons and said there is no evidence that there is a military diversion in Tehran’s nuclear program. The US officials “carry on the charade that Iran is trying to produce nuclear weapons, when in fact its Leadership at the top level has said very clearly that the production and the use of atomic weapons would not be in line with the good God-fearing religious spiritual values,” O’Keefe said. He was referring to a fatwa by Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, which forbids the development and use of nuclear arms. O’Keefe said the history of Iran over the past centuries shows it has been “one of the most peaceful nations on the planet,” adding that American officials are being “ordered to scuttle” the nuclear agreement reached between Iran and the P5+1 group – Russia, China, France, Britain, the US and Germany – last July. Assouline, for his part, believes although Israel, along with some of its regional allies, has opposed the agreement on Tehran’s nuclear program, they have failed to push their anti-Iran agenda forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 BREAKING: Defense Secretary Slips Up, Reveals Obama Admin LED IRAN Straight to Our Sailors It doesn’t matter if “the 3 a.m. phone call” comes in the middle of the day. Not only will the Obama administration not answer it, but they’ll aid our enemies instead. First came the fact that President Barack Obama refused to address the arrest of 10 of our sailors by the Iranian military after their boats had mechanical trouble at sea. Then came news that the Obama administration had offered the Iranians an apology for the release of the sailors. Now comes the disturbing revelation, apparently delivered by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, that the Obama administration tipped off the Iranians that our soldiers were lost at sea and requested their aid. The news came from Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, during an interview on TheBlaze’s Dana Loesch shortly after Iran’s arrest of the sailors had come to light. “I understand that (Secretary of State) John Kerry has indicated, look, when he got word, he and Ash Carter called the Iranians to help take care of our Navy guys, because they had some mechanical problems,” Gohmert said. I’ll give you a second to pick your jaw off the floor. “When our Navy ships have problems, we don’t call Iran. We call the rest of the Navy. We can call the Air Force, the Army, the Marines, Coast Guard. We don’t call Iran,” Gohmert said. He also took a swipe at Kerry’s closeness with Iranian officials, noting how the former Democrat presidential nominee had the son of Iran’s foreign minister as the best man at his daughter’s wedding. “But I guess, you know, if you have relatives that have weddings that involve the people that are in charge in Iran, well, maybe you feel that comfortable,” Gohmert said. “But you know, Dana, there are secrets on every military ship we have … that has no business being in the hands of the Iranians.” But, hey — the Obama administration has given the Iranians everything else via the Iran deal, why not give them Navy secrets, as well? This shows just how derelict the Obama administration was in its duty. Not only did they apologize to the Iranians, they actively delivered our sailors into the clutches of their military. This rot starts at the top — and if Barack Obama can apologize to Iran, he can also apologize to the American people. H/T WZ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 US Secretary of Defense: An error in the navigation system was the reason for the entry of American sailors Iranian waters Saturday January 16, 2016 - 05:06 Washington, United States (CNN) - The US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, said that the entry of American sailors Iranian waters last week, was due to an error in the navigation system, which used it, to coincide with the announcement by the Iranian authorities earlier. Carter said at a news conference on Thursday: "I think that this is what is clear to now, there occurred a kind of error in the marine navigation system," he said, adding: "There are many things that have not been clarified until now, but we are still talking with the persons concerned. " Also: Kerry thank Iran for the release of American sailors .. and pays tribute to the role of diplomacy in resolving the crisis Iran's Revolutionary Guards naval forces have detained ten Americans sailors, Bmrkpan entered and approached the "Persian" island of Iran during their way from Kuwait to Bahrain near the island. (Follow the history of the island and some of the facts around it by clicking here) Iran has been published in a video broadcast on a local television apology American sailors during their detention, and that what happened was "unintentional." You may also be interested in: Iranian FM: resolving the issue of American sailors came through dialogue and respect, not a threat and reckless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Good point about pointing fingers...what comes to mind is this presstv video interview, perhaps along the same line of thought? Israeli lobby behind US anti-Iran policies: Pundit http://presstv.com/Detail/2016/01/08/444963/US-Iran-Israel-Lobby-JCPOA-OKeefe-Assouline/ Press TV has conducted an interview with former US marine Ken O'Keefe in London, and journalist and Philippe Assouline, a Middle East expert from Los Angeles, to discuss the approval of a bill by the US House of Representatives that would limit Washington’s ability to lift anti-Iran bans as agreed in last July’s nuclear agreement. O’Keefe said the West needs the narrative against Iran’s nuclear program in order to advance the Israeli agenda in the Middle East, adding that the warmongering regime in Tel Aviv has been fueling tensions in the region. The Israeli lobby is “part and parcel of the ruling class of America,” said the analyst, stressing that Washington’s policies do not reflect the nation’s interests and serve Israeli goals in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and elsewhere. He rejected as baseless the claims that Iran is after developing nuclear weapons and said there is no evidence that there is a military diversion in Tehran’s nuclear program. The US officials “carry on the charade that Iran is trying to produce nuclear weapons, when in fact its Leadership at the top level has said very clearly that the production and the use of atomic weapons would not be in line with the good God-fearing religious spiritual values,” O’Keefe said. He was referring to a fatwa by Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, which forbids the development and use of nuclear arms. O’Keefe said the history of Iran over the past centuries shows it has been “one of the most peaceful nations on the planet,” adding that American officials are being “ordered to scuttle” the nuclear agreement reached between Iran and the P5+1 group – Russia, China, France, Britain, the US and Germany – last July. Assouline, for his part, believes although Israel, along with some of its regional allies, has opposed the agreement on Tehran’s nuclear program, they have failed to push their anti-Iran agenda forward. Thanks Fly. What Ken states is absolutely true and accurate, but not what anyone wants to hear. O'Keefe is a real patriot that has not been afraid to tell the truth. The collusion is real, and while people believed the supposed conflict between Obama and Netanyahu, meanwhile we watched as areas such as Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya etc. have been made unstable quite purposely and for evident reasons. As long as we refuse to see it, and address it properly, it will likely continue unabated. Again, we are talking about corrupt leadership that pulls the people behind them as they tell them stories about who is to blame, while the truth is often in the opposite direction that few desire to even approach it often because of personal bias. Mass media is used to underscore the story and with most, it is immediately accepted as "truth" because it agrees with the world view of those who listen to it, without realizing how their opinion has been shaped for them in many ways and how easy it is to do so. Here is a quote from Emile Zola (1840-1902) French novelist that is relevant: "If you shut up truth and bury it under the ground, it will but grow, and gather to itself such explosive power that the day it bursts through it will blow up everything in its way." Edited January 16, 2016 by Jim1cor13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthwarrior Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Israel is our ONLY friend in the middle east.Please tell Obama this FACT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) BREAKING: Defense Secretary Slips Up, Reveals Obama Admin LED IRAN Straight to Our Sailors It doesn’t matter if “the 3 a.m. phone call” comes in the middle of the day. Not only will the Obama administration not answer it, but they’ll aid our enemies instead. First came the fact that President Barack Obama refused to address the arrest of 10 of our sailors by the Iranian military after their boats had mechanical trouble at sea. Then came news that the Obama administration had offered the Iranians an apology for the release of the sailors. Now comes the disturbing revelation, apparently delivered by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, that the Obama administration tipped off the Iranians that our soldiers were lost at sea and requested their aid. The news came from Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, during an interview on TheBlaze’s Dana Loesch shortly after Iran’s arrest of the sailors had come to light. “I understand that (Secretary of State) John Kerry has indicated, look, when he got word, he and Ash Carter called the Iranians to help take care of our Navy guys, because they had some mechanical problems,” Gohmert said. I’ll give you a second to pick your jaw off the floor. “When our Navy ships have problems, we don’t call Iran. We call the rest of the Navy. We can call the Air Force, the Army, the Marines, Coast Guard. We don’t call Iran,” Gohmert said. He also took a swipe at Kerry’s closeness with Iranian officials, noting how the former Democrat presidential nominee had the son of Iran’s foreign minister as the best man at his daughter’s wedding. “But I guess, you know, if you have relatives that have weddings that involve the people that are in charge in Iran, well, maybe you feel that comfortable,” Gohmert said. “But you know, Dana, there are secrets on every military ship we have … that has no business being in the hands of the Iranians.” But, hey — the Obama administration has given the Iranians everything else via the Iran deal, why not give them Navy secrets, as well? This shows just how derelict the Obama administration was in its duty. Not only did they apologize to the Iranians, they actively delivered our sailors into the clutches of their military. This rot starts at the top — and if Barack Obama can apologize to Iran, he can also apologize to the American people. H/T WZ Man that woman is peed off. I'd run like the dickens if someone looked at me like that. As far as the nuclear PT boats and their supposed capture, everyone might wanna look at the video of the unarmed Iranian fishing boat that scared two full crews of navy personnel to simply throw up their hands and surrender. This was more than likely the transfer of at least four nuclear weapons to the government of Iran. Those boats are capable of carrying and firing two such weapons each. Also as far as being broke down and stranded at sea , those boats would have immediately notified their commanding officer who would have then called in air support from the air craft carrier group that those boats were in the water to protect. No way that an Iranian fishing boat would have gotten control of those boats, unless that was the intention all along. If I were sitting in Saudi Arabia right about now I'd be getting really nervous. Edited January 16, 2016 by ladyGrace'sDaddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Washington 7 release of Iranian prisoners in the framework of the exchange process with TehranBy Ziad al-Haidari one hour ago Iranian and US flag Roudao - Arbilnews agency reported Iranian edition of English on Saturday that the United States had released seven Iranian citizens currently in its custody as part of a prisoner exchange with Iran process. She said, that the exchange process included a requirement that the United States would no longer claim the receipt of 14 Iranians allegedly they purchased weapons in the United States in order to send them to Iran.At the same time, Iran's judiciary announced on Saturday, that he had been released four people, including three Americans as part of a prisoner exchange with Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Washington 7 release of Iranian prisoners in the framework of the exchange process with Tehran By Ziad al-Haidari one hour ago Iranian and US flag Roudao - Arbil news agency reported Iranian edition of English on Saturday that the United States had released seven Iranian citizens currently in its custody as part of a prisoner exchange with Iran process. She said, that the exchange process included a requirement that the United States would no longer claim the receipt of 14 Iranians allegedly they purchased weapons in the United States in order to send them to Iran.At the same time, Iran's judiciary announced on Saturday, that he had been released four people, including three Americans as part of a prisoner exchange with Washington. According to FoxNews, the following people are being released and taken to Switzerland then to Germany for Medical Care: Jason Rezaian Saeed Abedini Amir Hekmati Nosratollah Khosravi http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/214485-iran-releases-4-american-prisoners-including-pastor-and-reporter-in-swap-us-official-says/#entry1610153 . . Edited January 16, 2016 by Markinsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 White House Does Not Think Pictures of Sailors on Their Knees is EmbarrassingPublished on Jan 15, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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