Donald Trump: ban all Muslims entering US

[divemaster5734]

 

The bigger picture I took after looking this up was that after 133 years of banning “lunatics, idiots, imbeciles, and insane persons” we still ended up with the government we have today 

 

That made me laugh, until suddenly understanding the depth of that truth has the most sobering effect.

 

 

 

You got an accurate number?....deniers want to know.      

 

How about three.

So far, three of your warm an fuzzy and oh so cuddly "peaceful" Muslims have murdered innocent humans on American soil.

Two of those walking fecal matter dirtbags were not only given large amounts of American Taxpayer money to start a new life, they were gainfully employed in a public service sector position.

They then went on to murder their co-workers.

 

Deny that.

 

Deny ALL Muslims are reading from the same book of hate.

 

Deny any of the millions that are already here are not a risk.

 

You can't.

 

You can say that, so far, most of them have been good, and from what you read in our so trust worthy press, most of them promise they will be good.

 

But the stinking bastard in Ft. Hood even swore an oath to serve and protect.

 

I'm happy you may live  on a cloud surrounded by fairy tales, unicorns, and delusions of socialist "equality", but please take note.

If the libtards allow many more of their drug using ISL fanatics to continue to murder innocent Americans, your limp wristed friends will be soon faced with having to fight for their own lifves against mobs of very pissed off and not gonna take it anymore Americans.

 

If either of my sons is ever harmed by a stinking Muslim, I will get my revenge.

 

Not a threat.

 

A promise.

 

Your for the most part a decent guy, but if you decide to throw in with the same jackals that are trying to kill people and destroy America, then don't be surprised if others accept you for your word, and then treat you like the threat your rag head buddies are.

Edited December 9, 2015 by divemaster5734

[dog53]

Senior Member_8,323 post

 

You have always made respectful comments on my post before and I strongly feel that has not changed. You and I tend to respectfully agree to disagree.

 

I am not saying that suspected terrorist should not be vetted, they should be and THROUGHLY.  However, suspected terrorist or not ALWAYS Muslins. 

 

There are Muslin Americans that love this country.  Federally and state law enforcement's tips/information on various terrorist activities comes from Muslin-American communities, because they are Americans first and being Muslin is their faith. 

 

It is ironic, today Mr. trump said HIS Muslin friends and business associates would be exempt from this banning policy.

 

Plus 1 barbara we are not that far apart on this. I do not condemn a whole people for the actions of a few. BUT the actions of the few are so over the top that we must take a hard look at look at the whole in order to be safe.  Its called being logical . A certain group of people are try to kill us so thats the people that we must watch. untill we can sort this mess out they as a whole shall remain suspect. The lives of my children and grandchildren are more important then their feelings. Sorry

 

Respectively yours

Dog.

 

Please if your going to call me out barb

use my name 

 

dog 

[Flash101]

It may be a long process but oh well, Check them out one at a time before going on to the next. even the children that my daughter goes to school with are full of hate they will not say the pledge of allegiance because of the word GOD is in it. The woman come to school wearing all the garb and you cant tell if its male or female they stare you down and disrespect you when you ask them a friendly question about school functions, They come to the United States for a better life and they bring there hate and issue's with them. I know 1st hand I taught music in High school.   So go a head and BASH me but beware.

 

 

101  

[Shabibilicious]

That made me laugh, until suddenly understanding the depth of that truth has the most sobering effect.

 

 

 

 

How about three.

So far, three of your warm an fuzzy and oh so cuddly "peaceful" Muslims have murdered innocent humans on American soil.

Two of those walking fecal matter dirtbags were not only given large amounts of American Taxpayer money to start a new life, they were gainfully employed in a public service sector position.

They then went on to murder their co-workers.

 

Deny that.

 

Deny ALL Muslims are reading from the same book of hate.

 

Deny any of the millions that are already here are not a risk.

 

You can't.

 

You can say that, so far, most of them have been good, and from what you read in our so trust worthy press, most of them promise they will be good.

 

But the stinking bastard in Ft. Hood even swore an oath to serve and protect.

 

I'm happy you may live  on a cloud surrounded by fairy tales, unicorns, and delusions of socialist "equality", but please take note.

If the libtards allow many more of their drug using ISL fanatics to continue to murder innocent Americans, your limp wristed friends will be soon faced with having to fight for their own lifves against mobs of very pissed off and not gonna take it anymore Americans.

 

If either of my sons is ever harmed by a stinking Muslim, I will get my revenge.

 

Not a threat.

 

A promise.

 

Your for the most part a decent guy, but if you decide to throw in with the same jackals that are trying to kill people and destroy America, then don't be surprised if others accept you for your word, and then treat you like the threat your rag head buddies are.

 

I don't even personally know any Muslims, so the rag head buddies comment was out of line and knee jerk.  Please keep in mind, 2 of the 3 you mentioned were natural born American citizens.  You just gave me a lesson on the Constitution the other day.....does the 1st Amendment no longer matter?    

 

GO RV, then BV 

[Barbara020548]

I apologize, if I appeared to be calling you "out", that was not my intentions.  I did not know that your site name was "dog".  It is duly noted and I will not make that mistake again. 

 

Respectfully,

Barbara

[Bandit795]

I'm more and more convinced that Donald Trump is nothing than a sideshow and human smoke screen. While he was on and on about banning Muslims, Obama (another puppet) signed this. He seems to be very useful to TPTB.

Americans: Pay Your Taxes--Or Lose Your Passport

It includes this:

[ex]“The Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of State, and any of their designees shall not be liable to an individual for any action with respect to a certification by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue under section 7345. . .”[/ex]

 

[RV ME]

So now it has been learned that not only is what Trump said about banning all muslim immigration specifically allowed by law, but was similarly last done in 1979 by Jimmy who banned all Iranians from entering the USA (and then deported thousands of Iranians students with expired visas). 

 

Where are all the corrections and apologies from all the talking heads in the lamestream media and the anti-Trumpers here who claimed Donald did not know what he was talking about.  That what he said would be unconstitutional.  That he is unfit to run for President (apparently in this day and age following the law makes you unfit for office?!?!?!).

 

Let’s hear from you, because instead of Trump looking like a fool, he made a fool of you.  Actually, it would be more accurate to say he let you make a fool of yourself.  Either way the outcome is the same.  April 1^st all over again.

[Whatshername]

[coorslite21]

So now it has been learned that not only is what Trump said about banning all muslim immigration specifically allowed by law, but was similarly last done in 1979 by Jimmy who banned all Iranians from entering the USA (and then deported thousands of Iranians students with expired visas). 

 

Where are all the corrections and apologies from all the talking heads in the lamestream media and the anti-Trumpers here who claimed Donald did not know what he was talking about.  That what he said would be unconstitutional.  That he is unfit to run for President (apparently in this day and age following the law makes you unfit for office?!?!?!).

 

Let’s hear from you, because instead of Trump looking like a fool, he made a fool of you.  Actually, it would be more accurate to say he let you make a fool of yourself.  Either way the outcome is the same.  April 1^st all over again.

 

 

Have to agree with RV on this one.  To start, the entire statement by Trump isn't being reported.  The second part was "at least until our congressional representatives can figure out what the hell is going on"........

 

If you watched any of the Hearings today it was obvious that neither Ash Carter of the head of the FBI had any clue as to how the two Killers in Calif. had slipped through the cracks.  

 

Seems there were a few steps missed in the vetting process.  So, my take again would be for now, if you don't let them in, you avoid any future problems from those that you don't let in.

 

A link that has some facts on the Constitutional aspects of all of this follows........some of you won't like the Author, but you may want to read it with an open mind........it lines up with what RV posted.

 

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/12/09/trump_s_nutty_proposal_is_already_the_law_of_the_land_and_was_used_by_jimmy_carter_during_the_hostage_crisis

[Shedagal]

Whatshername, interesting cartoon!!  When Donald met with those black pastors a week or so ago, a guy by the name of Lance Wallnau was in attendance.  He was asked to read Isaiah 45, where the Bible talks about God using a king by the name of Cyrus to fulfill God's purpose.  Lance said he felt God was using Donald in the same way.  Lance also told Donald about how George Washington had something like 70 bullet holes in his coat, but he was never injured.  He compared that to Donald in the way that he has said things that should have gotten him out of the race, but he is still hanging in there.  Divine intervention?  Maybe.

[Shabibilicious]

I was watching a Q/A with a panel of Trump supporters and as always, they agree with everything he says about the banning of Muslims.  They were expressing their opinions and I have no problem with it, as it is their right to do so.  But I found it interesting when they were questioned about the No Fly list and the fact that people on said list still had the right to purchase weapons.  Answers varied but seemed to gravitate around the same issues.....some are possibly on the list by mistake and therefore innocent until proven guilty....right on and very American indeed.  Yet by Donald's standards, all Muslims are guilty until proven innocent.    

 

 And to RV ME.....just because Jimmy Carter did it, doesn't make it right.  It does warm my heart to know you agreed with Jimmy Carter on anything.  

 

GO RV, then BV

[RV ME]

Have to agree with RV on this one.  To start, the entire statement by Trump isn't being reported.  The second part was "at least until our congressional representatives can figure out what the hell is going on"........

 

If you watched any of the Hearings today it was obvious that neither Ash Carter of the head of the FBI had any clue as to how the two Killers in Calif. had slipped through the cracks.

 

Seems there were a few steps missed in the vetting process.  So, my take again would be for now, if you don't let them in, you avoid any future problems from those that you don't let in.

 

A link that has some facts on the Constitutional aspects of all of this follows........some of you won't like the Author, but you may want to read it with an open mind........it lines up with what RV posted.

 

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/12/09/trump_s_nutty_proposal_is_already_the_law_of_the_land_and_was_used_by_jimmy_carter_during_the_hostage_crisis

 

Since FBI Director Comey stated that ISIS can infiltrate the refugees and we have no way of vetting them,

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/21/fbi-director-admits-us-cant-vet-all-syrian-refugees-for-terror-ties-video/

the situation we find ourselves in is seems like bizarro world again. 

 

Since we know what Comey testified to, and we know the law and recent history of its implimentation, why is what Trump said the big issue?  The big issue we should be talking about is why isn’t Obummer doing what Trump said, and the law allows?  If Obummer has a better plan to protect Americans let’s hear it (chirp chirp chirp).

[RV ME]

I was watching a Q/A with a panel of Trump supporters and as always, they agree with everything he says about the banning of Muslims.  They were expressing their opinions and I have no problem with it, as it is their right to do so.  But I found it interesting when they were questioned about the No Fly list and the fact that people on said list still had the right to purchase weapons.  Answers varied but seemed to gravitate around the same issues.....some are possibly on the list by mistake and therefore innocent until proven guilty....right on and very American indeed.  Yet by Donald's standards, all Muslims are guilty until proven innocent.    

 

 And to RV ME.....just because Jimmy Carter did it, doesn't make it right.  It does warm my heart to know you agreed with Jimmy Carter on anything.  

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

Ahh yes, impeccable the no fly list.  The same list the NY Times was totally against before they were for it?

 

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/25/the-no-fly-list-is-unconstitutional/?_r=0

 

 

 

Even the LA Times this week stated that the no fly list should not be used to deny citizens our 2^nd Amendment rights.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-terrorist-watch-list-20151207-story.html

 

You mean that list?

 

It appears that it is not just us crazy conservatives that can see the real and potential problems that would occur if the government was allowed to bungle and manipulate this list for whatever reason.

 

And as for innocent before proven guilty, that is only applies to a judge or jury for those brought before a court of law, not sure how that applies to those who are not even in the country.  We have had total travel bans to control infectious diseases from spreading and contaminating the populous, why not a ban to keep those Perverted Islamic Terrorists from the “religions of peace” form doing the same?

 

 

Apparently we disagree on what Jimmy did because I think it was right.  And as for Jimmy, I have no problem giving credit where credit is due, even if it is just evidence that a blind squirrel can find an acorn .  Carter followed the law and did the right thing, both of which outdoes our current Oval Office occupant.  However, that still leaves Jimmy second to the bottom,  just above Obummer on the Presidential totem pole.

[Shabibilicious]

Okay then....Another round of we agree to disagree.        

 

GO RV, then BV

[Whatshername]

Whatshername, interesting cartoon!!  When Donald met with those black pastors a week or so ago, a guy by the name of Lance Wallnau was in attendance.  He was asked to read Isaiah 45, where the Bible talks about God using a king by the name of Cyrus to fulfill God's purpose.  Lance said he felt God was using Donald in the same way.  Lance also told Donald about how George Washington had something like 70 bullet holes in his coat, but he was never injured.  He compared that to Donald in the way that he has said things that should have gotten him out of the race, but he is still hanging in there.  Divine intervention?  Maybe.

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Thanks Shedagal... I'd heard about the meeting with the black pastors but not about Mr. Wallnau's thoughts. Very interesting indeed...

http://www.westernjournalism.com/christian-speaker-just-shared-this-prophetic-prayer-about-trump-these-3-words-the-dems-will-hate/

Trumpet. Triumph. Trump. Hmmmm... maybe. Stranger (and far less interesting) things have happened!

[Shabibilicious]

Trumpet. Triumph. Trump. Hmmmm... maybe. Stranger (and far less interesting) things have happened!

 

He sure knows how to blow his own horn......I'll give him that.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[yota691]

1980: Jimmy Carter Banned Iranian Immigrants From U.S., Deported Students During Hostage Crisis

Published on Dec 11, 2015

The liberal media and Republican Party elites erupted this week after Donald Trump announced his plan to ban Muslim immigrants from the US until the government can assure it is safe to do so. But Democrat Jimmy Carter did the same thing, and much more during the Iranian hostage crisis. This was from ABC’s coverage of Democratic President Jimmy Carter’s April 7th, 1980 speech, regarding US cutting relations with the Khomeinist regime in Iran. Here’s the transcript from ABC News: Ever since Iranian terrorists imprisoned American Embassy personnel in Tehran early in November, these 50 men and women—their safety, their health, and their future—have been our central concern. We’ve made every effort to obtain their release on honorable, peaceful, and humanitarian terms, but the Iranians have refused to release them or even to improve the inhumane conditions under which these Americans are being held captive.

The events of the last few days have revealed a new and significant dimension in this matter. The militants controlling the Embassy have stated they are willing to turn the hostages over to the Government of Iran, but the Government has refused to take custody of the American hostages. This lays bare the full responsibility of the Ayatollah Khomeini and the Revolutionary Council for the continued illegal and outrageous holding of the innocent hostages. The Iranian Government can no longer escape full responsibility by hiding behind the militants at the Embassy. It must be made clear that the failure to release the hostages will involve increasingly heavy costs to Iran and to its interests. I have today ordered the following steps. First, the United States of America is breaking diplomatic relations with the Government of Iran. The Secretary of State has informed the Government of Iran that its Embassy and consulates in the United States are to be closed immediately.

All Iranian diplomatic and consular officials have been declared persona non grata and must leave this country by midnight tomorrow. Second, the Secretary of the Treasury will put into effect official sanctions prohibiting exports from the United States to Iran, in accordance with the sanctions approved by 10 members of the United Nations Security Council on January 13 in the resolution which was vetoed by the Soviet Union. Although shipment of food and medicine were not included in the U.N. Security Council vote, it is expected that exports even of these items to Iran will be minimal or nonexistent. Third, the Secretary of Treasury will make a formal inventory of the assets of the Iranian Government, which were frozen by my previous order, and also will make a census or an inventory of the outstanding claims of American citizens and corporations against the Government of Iran.

This accounting of claims will aid in designing a program against Iran for the hostages, for the hostage families, and other U.S. claimants. We are now preparing legislation, which will be introduced in the Congress, to facilitate processing and paying of these claims. Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [state] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.

Rush Limbaugh: ABC News Digs Up Video of Jimmy Carter Announcing Ban on Iranian Immigration

[nannab]

Great find Yota. You did not hear the wining then regarding the poor Iranians.

And this was coming  from one of the the most caring,loving humanitarians God

 ever put on this earth. 

[yota691]

Economic losses paid Trump to back down from his stance towards Muslims

History of edits:: 2015/12/16 12:16 • 1 visits readable

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prompted several Republican presidential candidate and businessman economic losses, Donald Trump, to undo the unity of his attitude toward Muslims, and try to appear more moderate, and clarify controversial remarks.

He said Trump: "I have a lot of friends of Muslims, who are aware that there is a problem, and they want to get rid of them, they are Talmanm and harm them more than others." 
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