Is the Earth Flat?

[Peace]

I wish i would have seen this first it would have saved me so much time! points 98-106 talk about the constellations 107 108 109 i think talk about magnets! 

 

[SocalDinar]

Really? you are the expert and you have not seen this video??

Btw I am a bit bias. I do a lot of work for Boeing and JPL

Also the water vials being moved by the rare earth magnets are isolated and holding a static charge.

[Muleslayer]

The flat-landers must be sleeping it off this morning.    

 

GO RV, then BV

Shabs! You of all people!

Basic 101 NEVER argue with an idiot!

[Shabibilicious]

Shabs! You of all people!

Basic 101 NEVER argue with an idiot!

 

Just fishing for lunacy, my friend......and the fish are definitely biting.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[SnowGlobe7]

[Shabibilicious]

 

GO RV, then BV    

Edited October 29, 2015 by Shabibilicious

[chess]

POSTED:

 

No snow boarding on the ice wall.

 

Gravity is too weak to help you.

[SnowGlobe7]

[chess]

....that's GREAT!!!

[zzztop]

Comedy

Edited October 29, 2015 by zzztop

[Peace]

isinformation Tactics of shills & online trolls/zombies

• Posted by Cryptocurrency on July 30, 2012 at 9:59pm
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Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant.

Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used to show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers.

Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man.

Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.

This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run.

In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain critical reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

7. Question motives.

Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority.

Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb.

No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news.

A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions.

Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just aren't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution.

Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic.

Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions.

Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions.

This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanish evidence and witnesses.

If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.

17. Change the subject.

Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents.

If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

19. Ignore facts presented, demand impossible proofs.

This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

20. False evidence.

Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/disinformation-tactics-of-shills-online-trolls-zombies

 

All of us have been taught to believe the world is round because we were told at a very young age. We didn't know shiz about science or the math or the lack of experiments when we believed the earth a ball. We went with it.

 

So I appreciate this information about myself cuz im not aFNfraid to be honest with myself and ask, "where does this belief come from". So when you actually are honest with yourself its easier to understand and unclog that belief from your filter of perception to evaluate objectively new information.

 

But a lot of people are cozy with their "knowing" i call it lazy and afraid. I'm gonna keep letting the government paid entities tell me all about my beliefs. Cuz i be damned if i have to go within and deal with being brutally honest with myself.

 

So i don't care what BS humor you use to distract...you are either getting paid to divert or you are scared of what it means. Either way i'm not going to be a party to it. I'm going to keep questioning cuz my consciousness tells me to. SO ROLL OVER BELLY UP AND TAKE THE MEDICINE with your tongue out and drool all over the place. I will keep asking what the frick is in the medicine with a snarl on my face.

 

This whole thread is for those who are curious...and i know they are out there... so in the words of Joe Dirt, "im gonna keep on keeping on" 

 

btw if you dare look there are way to many questions in opposition to ball earth...which means you at least have to consider another theory.

 

 

oh and maybe look at the bible for those who desire only Gods message. Its in there. 

 

PEACE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[chess]

WHATABOUT the most conclusive round globe proof videos of all time......

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~STAR WARS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Peace]

Really? you are the expert and you have not seen this video?? Dude you aren't even trying...how else would i know that numbers 98-104 deal with the zodiac i was making it easy for you

Btw I am a bit bias. I do a lot of work for Boeing and JPL 

Also the water vials being moved by the rare earth magnets are isolated and holding a static charge. water is diamagnetic so the magnet repels it

WHATABOUT the most conclusive round globe proof videos of all time......

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~STAR WARS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

SHILL WHY ELSE WASTE YOUR TIME? YOU MUST BE GETTING PAID

[Shabibilicious]

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic.

Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.

 

I found No. 13 to be a curious title choice.  In a Flat Earth Society reality......how deep can the rabbit hole really go?  

 

All that aside.....you FN go Brandy.  Keep being you, I would expect nothing less.    

 

GO RV, then BV

[chess]

......yep, I do....on Steven Spielberg's staff....$10,000/hour!

[Peace]

I found No. 13 to be a curious title choice.  In a Flat Earth Society reality......how deep can the rabbit hole really go?  

 

All that aside.....you FN go Brandy.  Keep being you, I would expect nothing less.    

 

GO RV, then BV

 

 

98 is where it talks about polaris thats why i noted that ...shabs its all curious... 

[Peace]

[nstoolman1]

 

 

 

Really?  Flat or round the country is going to he** in a hand cart. I have enough problems worrying about criminals assaulting me/mine, retiring with enough money to enjoy my after work life, wondering if the economy is going to tank. I believe a certain way. You appear to believe another. You will not convince me otherwise based on u-tube experiments. I am a hard nosed, see it, touch it, believe it kind of person. I have flown very high up and the earth to me appears to be a curved planet.           

[chess]

Big Question:

 

How many times has Copernicus rolled over in his grave?

[The Machine]

BTW FOUR OF THOSE LINKS WERE BUSTED CUZ I REALLY WANTED TO SEE HIS PICS BUT WHATEVER.

 

now can we have a discussion?

 

yeah well what do you expect from a society of crack pot lunatics ....... probably went broke and couldn't afford to keep the site up.

 

No we cannot have a discussion, I have much more important things to do than get caught up in an internet argument about something so stupid.

 

Arguing with an idiot is like wrestling a pig in sh!t, sooner or later you will realize the pig enjoys it ....... which i'm pretty sure is reason why you're posting all this rubbish.

 

And by the way, I'm no NAZI.

[chess]

Good analogy Machine.......fn A!!!!!

 

(to borrow their sophomoric terminology)

[Peace]

yeah well what do you expect from a society of crack pot lunatics ....... probably went broke and couldn't afford to keep the site up.

 

No we cannot have a discussion, I have much more important things to do than get caught up in an internet argument about something so stupid.

 

Arguing with an idiot is like wrestling a pig in ****, sooner or later you will realize the pig enjoys it ....... which i'm pretty sure is reason why you're posting all this rubbish.

 

And by the way, I'm no NAZI.

 

your the one who brought it over. take your own advice and stay out of the kitchen

[Peace]

 

 

Really?  Flat or round the country is going to he** in a hand cart. I have enough problems worrying about criminals assaulting me/mine, retiring with enough money to enjoy my after work life, you are part of a system in which saving for retirement hinges on whether that system stays afloat i know a few people who lost 3/4 of their savings when 2008 "housing crisis" happened... so much for that RELIABLE system wondering if the economy is going to tank. then take back your own power and learn things that are useful like growing your own food I believe a certain way. from inside the cage You appear to believe another. yea thank God, Decentralize  You will not convince me otherwise based on u-tube experiments. and where does your belief come from a tv tuned into fox or cnn I am a hard nosed, see it, touch it, believe it kind of person. well then grab your level and binoculars get in your car and find a good spot to look out on Mr. Practical I have flown very high up and the earth to me appears to be a curved planet.  "appears" through a fish eye lens/convex          

 

 

the horizon line will always be at eye level. there is a vanishing point. it doesn't mean its not there its just your perception. go grab your binoculars. im not the one questioning it. also while your doing things remember the earth is supposed to drop off ever so far away from you. so if you 50 miles from your target and can see it then you know the earth is flat. cuz on the ball earth it should be 1666 feet below you. there is one to do for yourself. 

yeah well what do you expect from a society of crack pot lunatics ....... probably went broke and couldn't afford to keep the site up.

 

No we cannot have a discussion, I have much more important things to do than get caught up in an internet argument about something so stupid.

 

Arguing with an idiot is like wrestling a pig in ****, sooner or later you will realize the pig enjoys it ....... which i'm pretty sure is reason why you're posting all this rubbish.

 

And by the way, I'm no NAZI.

 

i believe you are not a nazi, but a tool. keep on mr. two masters working on my phd but cant be constructive just "ate up" i didn't tell you to click on this post and bring your BS over which was broken...hater... then i respond and you shiz on it well by all means take your petty child like attitude onward and don't stop by no more. and if you do bring some fn evidence to the round earth!!

Good analogy Machine.......fn A!!!!!

 

(to borrow their sophomoric terminology)

 

 

A cheerleader is cute, if i were a shill it would look like you, why the trolling? I mean if you don't like it then present evidence, so i can debunk it. Hmm what happens to aluminum when it passes through the thermosphere?

[Peace]

The angle stayed the same, proving that the Earth does not rotate.

The earth is stationary and flat

 

Go ahead Machine bring me back the experiment that shows its moving please...

 

Enter the Clowns!

[chess]

SORRY, can't take the time to humor you......your whole thesis is a non sequitur!.........