####.### - PARLIAMENT: FIRST READING OF THE FEDERAL REVENUE LAW - AND MUCH MORE!

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chattels: The beginning of wisdom is found in doubting; by doubting we come to the question, and by seeking we may come upon the truth.
chattels: Kindness is more important than wisdom, and the recognition of this is the beginning of wisdom.
chattels: The beginning of wisdom is the definition of terms - Socrates

BOBBY: Chattels. ... well spoken words.... should be this site mantra

chattels: "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› none of us is so very good or wise, but together we are formidable

BOBBY: chattels... like i said earlier. .. this site has all the making of being a positive in the community

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› glad that you are amongst us

BOBBY: Chattels... thank you much sir
BOBBY: Chattels. ... i remember something Lj said before, it would be great if the sites could share intel and not let ego and greedget in the way of the truth

UNEEK: all fruit on the tree does not ripen at the same time -- same with humans -- everyone grows older - not everyone grows wiser

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› LJ is a good man

UNEEK: ‹@chattels› Socrates is another strong fav of mine and aristotle

BOBBY: Chattels.. i have always respected the iqd team..

OOTW: -FIRST READING OF THE FEDERAL REVENUE LAW PASSED
OOTW: HERE'S A PARAGRAPH FROM THE LAW AS POSTED AT THE PARLIAMENT SITE
OOTW: "Article-9 Federal realized Alerardat issued from the following: First -mbaat oil and gas and other mineral resources belonging to the state and revenue resulting from oil and gas contracts from national and foreign companies and investment contracts and indirect taxes Alambeshro. Second-grants and international aid. Third-federally aggregated revenues, or for the benefit of the Federal Government from the region and governorates not organized in a region."

OOTW: ANYONE WHO SAID THIS IS SOLELY ABOUT TAXES IS WRONG
OOTW: HERE'S THE LINK

OOTW: PLEASE SEE LINKS IN THE #####.### FORUMS AS WELL AS "NEWS WATCH" CHAT THREAD
OOTW: ALSO HERE'S THE LINK TO THE PARLIAMENT SITE SHOWING THIS PASSED A FIRST READING
OOTW: PAGE ONE PLEASE

OOTW: parliament.iq/Laws.aspx

UNEEK: ‹@OOTW› good morning - and thank you

chattels: ‹@OOTW› federal revenue is typically defined as from whatever source derived and would include therefore ALL sources of revenue and we know that 90+ % of all revenue in Iraq is oil

OOTW: SURE UNEEK -GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL
OOTW: I'M SCOURING THE PARLIAMENT SITE - IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THEY'RE READ THE PARLIAMENT PRESS RELEASE, PLEASE POST..THANK YOU
OOTW: THIS IS A GREAT PRESS RELEASE FROM THE PARLIAMENT SITE: I CHECKED LAST NIGHT AND HADN'T SEEN THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DATED YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE THIS WAS UPLOADED TODAY:
OOTW: Dr. al-Jubouri looking with Mr. Bahaa al-Araji coordination between the legislative and executive branches and ways to improve the services provided to citizens July 24, 2015 [image: su324715.jpg] Chairman of the Board of Representatives, Dr. Salim al-received in his own office, on Friday, Deputy Prime Minister Mr. Bahaa al-Araji. During the meeting, research in the overall political developments in the country, in addition to the security situation and ongoing military operations to cleanse Anbar province of control Daash terrorist gangs. As Search the meeting ways of coordination between the legislative and executive branches, and thus contributing to finding solutions to the current problems and obstacles solutions especially with regard to upgrading the level of services provided to citizens, and supporting the political process. *** The Information Office of the President of the Iraqi Council of Representatives
OOTW: REMEMBER ARAJI HAS BEEN GIVEN POWERS TO SIGN INTERNATIONAL TRADE AGREEMENTS
OOTW: AGAIN THIS IS IN THE GOVERNMENT THREAD FOR THIS WEEK
OOTW: ALL RELATED ARTICLES AT #####.### AND #####.###
OOTW: "As Search the meeting ways of coordination between the legislative and executive branches, and thus contributing to finding solutions to the current problems and obstacles solutions especially with regard to upgrading the level of services provided to citizens, and supporting the political process"
OOTW: I TRULY HOPE THEY ACTUALLY DO START WORKING TOGETHER TO START PASSING LAWS - REMEMBER MASSUM SAID HE WAS GOING TO GIVE JOBOURI BROADER POWERS TO GET THIS DONE
OOTW: HERE'S THIS ARTICLE
OOTW: Mahabs: National Alliance yore pass important laws July 25, 2015 BAGHDAD / Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network (IMN) - the National Alliance MP Mahabs Razak confirmed that the coalition of all its components in the past to pass important laws, noting that the most prominent of these laws is the National Guard and the General Amnesty Law and the Federal Court. Said Mahabs's (IMN) "The National Alliance can pass laws that concern the Iraqi street, in case agreed upon," stressing "the need to unify the visions within the National Alliance bloc to pass the laws, so as not to disrupt the House of Representatives because of approvals and political quotas." Mahabs He added that "no election of the President of the Alliance so far will not affect his work," noting that "ambition is to be the National Alliance, a government organization accredited". He explained that "the atmosphere within the National Alliance requires resolving internal disputes between the parties to this alliance, so as to reach a clear vision about the situation experienced by the constituent National Alliance political blocs." He said deputy state law Mohammed Chihod earlier, that important laws legislation needs to unite the efforts and ideas of the National Alliance. 

OOTW: AND HERE'S THIS RE PAYMENTS BETWEEN THE CENTRE AND THE REGION: Deputy: Kurdistan Baghdad's debt to 18 billion US dollars BAGHDAD / Baghdadi News / ... said the National Alliance MP Zeinab visual Arif, on Saturday, "said the Kurdistan region owes the federal government large sums, as the Ministry of Natural Resources Kurdish city of more than $ 8 billion, in addition to the accumulated debt since 21 months receivables of domestic banks, and $ 7 billion. " Basri said in a statement received / Baghdadi News /, "that there are also accumulated debt from the employees' salaries in arrears for three months and in excess of two billion dollars, and almost a billion and a quarter of a billion dollars debt owed to contractors in Kurdistan." "The political pursued for the region that will drenched additional debt," emphasizing "the need to send oil quotas agreed upon in the oil agreement with the central government in order to overcome this crisis," .anthy / 21 Z
OOTW: BREAK
OOTW: Member of the Finance parliamentary reveals send Baghdad [300] billion dinars to Arbil financial receivables 07/25/2015 15:55 Capture140 BAGHDAD INA / detection of the parliamentary finance committee member Sarhan Slevana, on Saturday, that the federal government has sent 300 billion dinars to the Kurdistan region, financial receivables for the region on the back of oil exports through the company "Sumo". He said the parliamentary finance committee member Sarhan Slevana in a statement received by the Iraqi news agency, a copy of the "Baghdad after Eid al-Fitr holiday, sent 300 billion dinars to the Kurdistan region, as receivables from the export of oil through the region, SOMO." He predicted Slevana according to the statement, "the arrival of the amount Sunday to Christan region", adding that "the province issued its oil production now and there are no signs of the start of talks between Arbil and Baghdad on the issue of oil."
OOTW: BREAK
OOTW: HERE'S THIS ON TRADE
OOTW: Deputy for the citizen calls to open new border crossings with Iran to expand trade 25/07/2015 16:11 pm (Baghdad time) Baghdad scales News MP called on the mass of Salem Amuslimawi, Saturday, the government to find the border crossings with neighboring countries Solutions after an increase in fighting in Anbar and the closure of most of the commercial crossings, calling for the opening of new border crossings with the Islamic Republic of Iran. He Amuslimawi in a statement received / scales News / copy of which was "the need to open new border crossings with neighboring countries, in particular the Islamic Republic of Iran in the southern regions, they are stable security and political," noting that "it is very necessary to find a commercial border crossings that were closed after solutions increased fighting in Anbar. " Amuslimawi that "Iran was instrumental in supporting Iraq in its war against terror Daash, and it must be put new options and the opening of border crossings in the southern border areas with them and with other neighboring countries," explaining that "regrettably, there are leaders of Iraq did not work on the matter, especially that there are large areas linking the southern provinces with the neighboring countries. " He continued, "we talked about previously open field cooperation with Iran in the field of energy, and we must put the issue of border crossing points into consideration, and priorities for strengthening the Iraqi economy," .anthy 29 / d 25
OOTW: I'M HEADING TO THE CUSTOMS SITE BRB
OOTW: HERE'S THIS FROM THE MINISTER OF TRANSPORT SITE

OOTW: Zubaidi .. meet Managing Director of the company free markets in Iraq He met with the Minister of Transport Baqir al-Zubaidi, Mr. Ahmed Kamal Managing Director of the company free markets in Iraq, Mr. Kamal and accept the measures taken by their company to raise the rate of free markets in Basra and Sulaymaniyah Airports and Free Zone ... In Baghdad International Airport, said the minister should be expanded in the work of free markets in the Iraqi airports according to international measurements of free markets in airports by offering goods of international brands and high quality of the Iraqi passengers and foreign who attend Iraqi airports and stressed Zubaidi on the importance of a free market in the halls of the four airport Baghdad and the importance of contributing to support Mncaouat the airport, where passenger traffic has reached over the past six months to more than a million passengers, which is reflected positively on the procurement system of free markets and free zone in addition to activating the sales system inside the plane for some types of goods needed by the traveler, stressing the importance of coordination between the company and airlines to train cadres lines for sale inside the aircraft. The Minister directed the company to comply with the agreed upon for the development of their work and increase the goods displayed in accordance with the international brands during the month to witness the free market a quantum leap in their work and attract the best global companies to supplement the free-market high-end goods, similar to the advanced airports in the region and the world. Brief and the press center of the Ministry of Transport Posted By: Site Management | Date: 25-07-2015 |

OOTW: "which is reflected positively on the procurement system of free markets and free zone in addition to activating the sales system inside the plane for some types of goods needed by the traveler, stressing the importance of coordination between the company and airlines to train cadres lines for sale inside the aircraft. The Minister directed the company to comply with the agreed upon for the development of their work and increase the goods displayed in accordance with the international brands during the month to witness the free market a quantum leap in their work and attract the best global companies to supplement the free-market high-end goods, similar to the advanced airports in the region and the world."

OOTW: HERE'S MORE FROM THE MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT

OOTW: Zubaidi .. meet general managers and their assistants and directors of departments in the Ministry of Transport He met with the Minister of Transport Baqir al-Zubaidi, general managers and their assistants and directors of departments in the Ministry of Transport and its formations and the presence of the agent of the Department of Technical and Inspector General gentlemen in separate meetings the minister gave congratulations to them and their staff ... All the ministry on the occasion of Eid al-Fitr, wishing them Muwafaqiya continued success and urged them to make more effort and contribution to serve Iraq, During the two meetings discussed a number of topics that contribute to the development of performance and the advancement of the ministry in providing better services to citizens, Mr. Minister and the continuing development of the Baghdad International Airport facilities, including keep pace with the global airport traffic in addition to the formation of a committee of the ministry to follow up the meals that are sold in the airport cafeteria to suit the prevailing prices in the city of Baghdad prices in addition to the development of hotel the VIP at the airport to receive the crews and international companies attending to Baghdad International Airport. The Minister called for a follow-up to the subject of ground services and life support and follow-up of all business related to rail and ports sector, also discussed the subject of the performance of land transport company and the activation of the increase in imports and the fight against financial corruption in any detail of the joints of the ministry to achieve the important achievements of the formations. It was also agreed to hold monthly meetings with the ministry departments managers to evaluate the performance of their mission they slide in the implementation of the obligations of the ministry departments. Brief and the press center of the Ministry of Transport Posted By: Site Management | Date: 25-07-2015

sczin11: Parliament to raise its next Tuesday 07/25/2015 22:17 Parliament to raise its next Tuesday Council completed the first reading of the draft law of the General Authority to monitor the allocation of federal revenue and submitted by the Finance Committees and the regions and governorates that are not organized in a region. BAGHDAD / Obelisk: Raise the House of Representatives, Saturday, its fifth to next Tuesday after hosting and Electricity Minister Qassim Fahdawi and read the bill. The MP said the Kurdistan Alliance Farhad capable in an interview with the local media and I followed "obelisk", "The House of Representatives to raise its fifth of the first legislative term of the second legislative year, held today under the chairmanship of Salim al-Jubouri, and the presence of 175 deputies, to next Tuesday." He is able, that "the Council ended the first reading of the draft law of the General Authority to monitor the allocation of federal revenue and submitted by the Finance Committees and the regions and governorates that are not organized in a region." He continued, that "today's session saw the hosting and Electricity Minister Qassim Fahdawi," noting that "it was on Sunday and Monday to customize the work of parliamentary committees." The House of Representatives held on Saturday, the fifth of its first legislative term of the second legislative year, headed by Salim al-Jubouri, and the presence of 175 deputies.

sczin11: ANOTHER TWO DAYS OFF
sczin11: FOR COMMITTEE WORK

OOTW: OKAY, SO DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THEIR EXPORTS ARE GOING INTERNATIONAL THAT THIS MEANS THEY HAVE TO NOW HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL RATE - THEY HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL RATE - HOWEVER, THIS IS GREAT FOR PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS "CAPTURING" CAPITAL FOR THE COUNTRY - DO THE PEOPLE NEED MORE BUYING POWER....UHHHH...YES THEY DO..BUT THEY CAN TRANSACT IN THE DINAR AT THE CURRENT RATE - WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE TARIFF'S GO INTO EFFECT
OOTW: BRB
OOTW: THANKS SCZIN11!
chattels: ‹@sczin11› work, work, work 

OOTW: SO HERE'S ANOTHER ARTICLE FROM THE MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT SITE CONFIRMING THEY'RE SHORING UP HOW TRADE IS REGULATED VIA AIR

OOTW: Transport Minister .. briefed on the nature of the ground services for aircraft As part of the pursuit and the Ministry of Transport to improve the rate of air transport in Iraq, the Minister of the transfer Baqir al-Zubaidi day Wednesday, 7/22 tour of inspection in one of the Iraqi Airways aircraft to determine the nature of the ground services provided by the contractor company with them to provide these services ... And the face of sovereignty to the need to adhere to the contract and controls that have been developed along the lines of international companies. He briefed sovereignty in the framework of his tour in the halls of Baghdad International Airport on the services provided to travelers stressing attention to clean lounges and restrooms where, sovereignty and talked to some travelers to get to know the nature of the services and facilities provided to them by workers at Baghdad International Airport. Brief and the press center of the Ministry of Transport Posted By: Site Management | Date: 22-07-2015

sczin11: ‹@chattels› I THINK WE WORK HARDER AT THIS, THEN THEY DO

forestnr4: ‹@OOTW› ‹@OOTW› ‹@OOTW› ‹@chattels› ‹@chattels› ‹@chattels› ‹@sczin11› ‹@sczin11› ‹@sczin11› 
sczin11: ‹@forestnr4› GA GOOD TO SEE YOU
forestnr4: GM all..... 

OOTW: I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE'RE SEEING LOW NUMBERS AGAIN IN ATTENDANCE AT THE PARLIAMENT MEETINGS - OBVIOUSLY, MP'S ARE EITHER BOYCOTTING THE MEETINGS, OR THEY'RE STILL ON VACATION, BUT AS THIS IS A FIRST READING, AS WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, THERE'S A CHANCE THEY WERE ABLE TO PASS THIS LAW WITH A MINIMUM NUMBER OF MP'S IN ATTENDANCE - PERHAPS AN INDICATOR OF MASSUM'S STATEMENT, GIVING JOBOURI EXECUTIVE POWERS TO PASS LAWS..WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHEN/IF THESE LAWS PASS SECOND AND THIRD READINGS IF THAT IS INDEED THE CASE

sczin11: ‹@forestnr4› RELAX MY FRIEND..WE ALL NEED IT

forestnr4: for sure!!

sczin11: ‹@OOTW› IS THERE ANYTHING YOU HAVE SEEN, CONSTITUTION WISE, THAT GIVES MASSUM POWERS TO GIVE JUBOURI THE BROADER DECISION MAKING, BASUCALLY EXECUTIVE ORDER OF SUCH
sczin11: ‹@chattels› CHATTELS, SAME QUESTION PLEASE

OOTW: SCZIN NO, I CANNOT FIND ANYTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT EMPHATICALLY ALLOWS THE PRESIDENT TO GIVE JOBOURI SOLE POWERS TO PASS LAWS, ...REMEMBER, THIS IS STILL IN DEBATE BETWEEN THE HOR AND THE SJC

sczin11: ‹@OOTW› I AM REMEMBERING 

OOTW: ONCE A LAW HAS PASSED A READING, IT GOES TO THE COM FOR REVIEW, THEN IF AMENDED, OR NOT, GOES AGAIN FOR NEXT READING, THEN AFTER PASSED - THEN ONTO THE COM ONE MORE TIME THEN ONTO THE PRESIDENT FOR SIGNATURE THEN ONTO THE SJC FOR FINAL APPROVAL OR NOT

sczin11: THEN TO THE GAZETTE
sczin11: A YEAR LATER

OOTW: I THINK WHAT MASSUM IS SAYING IS THAT HE'S GOING TO GIVE JOBOURI THE POWER TO PASS LAWS REGARDLESS OF WHO'S IN ATTENDANCE, BUT..WITH THE SJC IN ITS CURRENT STATE, I THINK IF WE SEE THESE LAWS PASSED UNDER THESE CONDITIONS, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT MAHMOUD AND OR SJC MIGHT TURN IT AWAY..REMEMBER WE HAVE A FEW JUDICIAL LAWS BEFORE HOR - ONE OF THEM IS RE THE REASSIGNMENT OF JUDICIAL POSITIONS, THE OTHER OF COURSE IS THE FEDERAL COURT ACT
sczin11: ‹@OOTW› AND IF NOT MAHMOOD, THERE IS ALWAYS KHARANJI...(sp)
OOTW: SOUNDS LIKE THE NAME OF A BAD DISEASE IN INDIA
OOTW: LOL

OOTW: HERE'S THIS JUST INTO MY EMAIL FROM WINNERDINAR

OOTW: Parliamentary Finance warns of the spread of counterfeit currency in the market is demanding the government to take the necessary procedures July 25, 2015 - 11:45 Parliamentary Finance warns of the spread of counterfeit currency in the market is demanding the government to take the necessary procedures BAGHDAD / Sky Press: Faleh Hussein parliamentary finance committee warned on Saturday, the spread of counterfeit currency categories of ten thousand dinars and 25 000 dinars in the domestic market, demand that the government and central bank to take procedures to limit the circulation of citizens. A member of the committee MP Jabbar al-Abadi for "Sky Press," that "the proliferation of counterfeit currency in the domestic market, especially the ten of thousands of categories and 25 000 dinars dangerous phenomenon and is a crime threaten the economic security of the country". "The government is required to take the necessary measures to track down who play by the Iraqi economy through their rigging the currency measures," calling on the central bank to "counterfeit currency withdrawn from the market to curb the proliferation and circulation of citizens." The local sources indicated the presence of Iraqi currency forged the category of 25 000 dinars are traded in the market. The central bank earlier by issuing a new edition of the coin ten thousand dinars category in the market and the withdrawal of the old edition gradually, especially after the emergence of cases of fraud for this category in the domestic market.
OOTW: BREAK
OOTW: HERE'S A QUOTE FROM THIS
OOTW: ""The government is required to take the necessary measures to track down who play by the Iraqi economy through their rigging the currency measures," calling on the central bank to "counterfeit currency withdrawn from the market to curb the proliferation and circulation of citizens." The local sources indicated the presence of Iraqi currency forged the category of 25 000 dinars are traded in the market. The central bank earlier by issuing a new edition of the coin ten thousand dinars category in the market and the withdrawal of the old edition gradually, especially after the emergence of cases of fraud for this category in the domestic market."

OOTW: LOOK AT THIS -
OOTW: Parliamentary Finance: Reduce the financial allocations of senior officials will provide to the state treasury a hundred million dollars July 25, 2015 The appearance of Mohammed Saleh 3 The parliamentary finance committee confirmed that the reduction of the financial allocations of senior officials will provide to the state treasury a hundred million dollars, while the Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister that these funds will go to support the war against terrorism, adding that the salaries of state employees amounting to 41 trillion dinars and nominal including 11 trillion. For his part, said the appearance of Mohammed Saleh, an economic advisor to the Prime Minister that the budget does not depend on a reduction of sources to achieve a surplus, but to re-examine financial engineering expenses grammar which is a savings. And saw the benefit, that the reduction of salaries will present the principle of rationalization exchange and re part of the salary to be used by about properly contribute to support future trends Iraq .oausband Iraq a severe financial crisis, caused by the fall in world oil prices by more than half, the war against terrorism caused by adopting austerity policy led to a halt The majority of projects in the provinces.

OOTW: HERE'S THIS FROM THE PARLIAMENT SITE - TYVM WINNERDINAR
OOTW: The parliamentary finance committee discussed the complaint filed by the government on the budget of the Federal Court July 25, 2015 Finance Committee met on Monday, 07/06/2015, headed by MP Ahmad Chalabi, head of embryos and the presence of a number of members of the committee to follow up the implementation of the state budget law. The meeting which was attended by Director General of the Legal Department of the House of Representatives and discussed the complaint filed by the government to the Federal Court and wait in the application of the law and procedures of the Committee to follow up the dollar exchange rate and an auction of foreign currency at the central bank.

chattels: ‹@sczin11› not that i have read

OOTW: LET ME REPOST THIS QUOTE FROM THE ABOVE: "and wait in the application of the law and procedures of the Committee to follow up the dollar exchange rate and an auction of foreign currency at the central bank."

chattels: there is the issue about origination of legislation, COM or the President as I recall, and it may be that is what is intended by Massoum, i will review the constitution

OOTW: THANK YOU KINDLY CHATTELS, AT PRESENT, I DO NOT RECALL THAT MASSUM CAN OVER RIDE THE SJC - THE CONSTITUTION SEEMS TO GIVE IMPLICIT POWERS FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL OF LAWS TO THE SJC
OOTW: CURRENTLY, THAT IS

chattels: Article 60: First: Draft laws shall be presented by the President of the Republic and the Council of Ministers. Second; Proposed laws shall be presented by ten members of the Council of Representatives or by one of its specialized committees
chattels: origination of laws is not passage of course and lies within the province and purview of Parliament
chattels: Draft laws shall be presented by the President of the Republic and the Council of Ministers
chattels: it may be that Massoum is " delegating " such draft legislation to Jubbouri
chattels: Article 61: The Council of Representatives shall be competent in the following: First: Enacting federal laws.

OOTW: YES THAT SEEMS A REASONABLE ASSESSMENT
OOTW: TYVM CHATTELS
chattels: http://www.iraqinationality.gov....

chattels: ‹@OOTW› i am a reasonable man, what would you expect of me ? 
OOTW: THERE ARE MANY ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE SITE RE MILITARY ACTIONS...WAY TOO MANY "HEROES OF THE IRAQI MILITARY" ARTICLES..LOL..PLEASE SEE FOR YOURSELF, I SHALL HOWEVER UPLOAD SOME OF THESE TODAY TO THE FORUMS http://www.mod.mil.iq/
OOTW: CHATTELS LOL
OOTW: TRUE

Sliderule: Chattels

chattels: ‹@Sliderule› ‹@Sliderule› ‹@Sliderule›

OOTW: HERE'S THIS FROM THE COMMISSION OF INTEGRITY SITE
OOTW: Chairman of the board of Integrity, Dr. Hassan al-Yassiri visit the Ministry of Communications and calls to make their services accessible to everyone 25/07/2015 Readers Number: 21 Chairman of the board of Integrity, Dr. Hassan al-Yassiri stressed the importance of improving the level of services provided by the Ministry of Communications, calling to make them accessible to all Iraqis, especially those with limited income. He stressed Dr. Yasiri during his inspection of the Ministry of Communications on Thursday, 07.23.2015 on the need to facilitate online services, communications and other make accessible to all Iraqis and prices to suit those with limited income to these services of importance in the lives of citizens, especially with the growing development in the service sector and the need of various social strata to him. and stop the head of the Authority during the visit, which included the departments and sections of the ministry closely on the smooth flow of work in the Office of the Inspector General the ministry, warning of the need to unify efforts between the office and the ministry and remove Marqlat their joint work, which called for the need to have clear features, borders, a far cry uncle pleasantries and characterized by force and firmness of both parties while maintaining the privacy of the two sides. He called for the importance of reducing rings routine in the work of the ministry, referring to the importance of working and interacting Highs with the government campaign seeking to facilitate the completion of transactions of the citizens and reduce red tape loops. and was greeted by the President of the Authority and the Minister of Communications Professor Hassan Al-Rashed and inspector general of the ministry and its staff Advanced where Mr. Minister President of the board of integrity on the most prominent projects of the ministry briefed focusing on the most important impediments to the completion of and cause Ptlka some of them, pointing out that the overlapping of powers and lack of powers and lack of cooperation of some state ministries and other institutions was the reason for blocking many of the projects of the ministry. It should be noted that the Minister of Communications Professor Hassan Rashed had visited late last month, the headquarters of the board of integrity and met with its president, Dr. Hassan al-Yassiri where display the latter support the Authority of the Ministry including permitted by law and does not contradict with the exclusive jurisdiction of the Authority.
chattels: you may recall that the term limitation law was ruled unconstitutional on the " tchnical " grounds that it originated not with the COM or the President, but in / with the Parliament, as i recall
chattels: " technical " *

OOTW: REMEMBER THERE WAS A COM ANNOUNCEMENT OVER A WEEK AGO STATING THAT THE COM WAS TRAINING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BECOME (ESSENTIALLY) "OFFICERS OF INTEGRITY" - THE TRAINING WILL ENHANCE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE TO HELP ASSIST THE GOVERNMENT IN ADDRESSING AND WEEDING OUT THOSE COMMITTING CORRUPTION
OOTW: YES CHATTELS, AGREED....THIS ISSUE OF "ORIGINATION" WAS "PASSED", HOWEVER, I'M STILL EVIDENCE THAT THE SJC CAN OVER RULE THE HOR
OOTW: THIS, IN PART, IS ONE REASON THEY REALLY ARE TRYING TO INTRODUCE MORE JUDICIAL GOVERNING LEGISLATION
OOTW: WE'RE STILL HAVING ISSUES GETTING LAWS PASSED UNDER A PREDOMINANTLY SHIA LED SJC

sczin11: REMEMBER FOLKS WHAT WE JUST SAW RELEASED THURSDAY, RE THE CURRENCY AUCTIONS, AND THE CORRUPTION- MONEY LAUNDERING....WE DISCUSSED WHERE MOST OF THIS PROBABLY ORIGINATES...WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF...THUS THE INCREASE IN COMMITTEE MEMBERS NEEDED HERE..

OOTW: GOOD POINT SCZIN11

sczin11: THEY ARE POINTING FINGERS AND GATHERING EVIDENCE IN MANY MINISTRIES...

OOTW: HERE'S THIS ARTICLE SUPPOSEDLY QUOTING TAMIMI
OOTW: YES THEY ARE SCZIN11
OOTW: Parliamentary Finance: justice does not exist in the distribution of salaries of employees in all state departments July 25, 2015 Magda Tamimi Finance Committee considered the lack of justice in the distribution of salaries of employees in all state departments, demanding the government to reconsider ladder staff salaries and taking into consideration the level of inflation and the purchasing power of citizens. The MP Magda Tamimi, a member of the Commission that there is a great variation staff salaries in all state departments since 2003 and so far, as the Oil Ministry employees receive a salary much higher than the salary of the Ministry of Agriculture employee, even though they were of the same functional class and added that the demand to reconsider the peace salaries Government and taking into consideration the level of inflation for the country, as well as what the citizens of exchange funds for civil generators and some of the services that the government is supposed to provide.
chattels: it appears to me that there are three stages to legislation, 1) drafted / originating with either the COM or the President, 2) proposal or presentation by " ten members of the Council of Representatives or by one of its specialized committees. ", and 3 ) enactment or passage by vote in the Parliament ( Council of Representatives )

sczin11: REMEMBER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, 100m $ INVOICE SCAM WITH MINISTER OF ENERGY, BUYING VACUUMS...
sczin11: INSTEAD OF RADIATION EQUIPMENT


chattels: this is my considered " lawyerly " thought subject to criticism by the " three letter golfer guru "

sczin11: AND WHERE DOES THE ROAD OF MUCH, IF NOT ALL THIS CORRUPTION, LEAD BACK TO......???
sczin11: THE CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ
sczin11: AND WHO IS THE ACTING GOVERNOR???

OOTW: WELL, YES, CHATTELS...THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT THEY WANTED TO CHANGE IT TO, BUT ALSO, IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, I'M SEEING LEGISLATION ORIGINATE WITH A RESPECTIVE COMMITTEE FOUNDED RELATING TO PARLIAMENT, WITH MP'S SITTING ON THESE COMMITTEE'S WHO ARE ORIGINATING LEGISLATION, HOWEVER, THEY COULD WELL BE "INFORMED" BY MASSUM
OOTW: OR THE COM

sczin11: KEYWORDS...ALI ALAAQ, MOSHIN ISMAIL...AND WHATEVER ELSE HE HIDES BEHIND
sczin11: A MALIKI SUPPORTER..
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OOTW: Abadi stresses the importance of national card for the security and privacy of the citizen 25/07/2015 02:49 | Number of Views: 864 - SPEAKING OF CORRUPTION.... font size: Decrease font Enlarge font Abadi stresses the importance of national card for the security and privacy of the citizen / Baghdad: Source News / The Iraqi prime minister said the national security card will contribute to adjust the calling parties concerned to cooperate in providing the atmosphere for release soon. Ebadi said in his speech at the ceremonial launch of a unified national card project on Saturday that "Iraq was a pioneer in the field of civil cases, but with a succession of years of evolution that has occurred and the negligence of the former regime to keep pace with the technological development of the decline of the country so the catch this behind is very important." He added that the country is facing a serious challenge of terrorism which wants the country's destruction and underdevelopment and that the current government, which faces many challenges and placed within its plan to simplify government procedures, which is one of the important measures to fight corruption and serve the citizens, noting that terrorism and corruption twins and there is an overlap between them. He explained that the national card will help in controlling the security measures at the same time, the privacy of the citizen will be saved which is very important for us. He called al-Abadi governors and provincial councils to contribute effectively by providing all available means to speed up the issuance of the card.

sczin11: ‹@chattels› LOL

OOTW: YES SCZIN - THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS OF THE GOI SEEMING TO WANT TO RESTRUCTURE THE CBI
OOTW: WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE

chattels: ‹@OOTW› the distinction between drafting / originating and proposing may be " blurred " in the legislative history

OOTW: ‹@chattels› YOUR CONSIDERED THOUGHTS ARE WELL RESPECT, MY FRIEND

chattels: or a definitional / translation issue

OOTW: YES, CHATTELS, IT DOES SEEM BLURRED, VERY MUCH SO, IN FACT

sczin11: ‹@OOTW› BIG THREAD TODAY ON THE NATIONAL CARD...PROGRAM BROKE RIBBON TODAY, IT APPEARS
sczin11: ####.###/showthr...

OOTW: YES SCZIN11 TY
OOTW: IT DOES SEEM SO

chattels: ‹@sczin11› apparently aimed in great part at corruption, eh ?

sczin11: ‹@chattels› WE SHALL SEE, 

OOTW: DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

sczin11: ‹@OOTW› RATE N DATE
sczin11: ??

BOBBY: whats for lunch.... 

OOTW: BOBBY AND SCZIN LOL

chattels: When is the " second coming " ?

Dianne777: ‹@sczin11› ditto? 

chattels: and other such " unknowables " 
chattels: i can figure out lunch for myself 


chattels: ‹@sczin11› do you accept promises to pay post " potential change in value " ? 

sczin11: ‹@chattels› I DONT ACCEPT ANYTHING....

chattels: ‹@sczin11› questioning everything is the beginning of wisdom it is said 

OOTW: THE SECOND COMING WILL HAPPEN LATER TODAY IF I FIND MORE "REVELATIONS" IN THE NEWS - SORRY, NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE, COULDN'T RESIST

chattels: ‹@OOTW› catch you on your return trip then 
chattels: ‹@OOTW› everyone is aware of your messianic complex 

sczin11: ‹@chattels› LOL

chattels: I am stepping away, be back for the rapture i hope 

sczin11: ‹@chattels› SEE YOU LATER

OOTW: BYE CHATTELS...SEE YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHTS AND YOU TOO SCZIN11
OOTW: HERE'S ONE MORE THOUGHT
OOTW: IF THEY'RE USING THESE NATIONAL CARD TO HELP ADDRESS SECURITY AND CORRUPTION - THIS IS, IMHO, A HUGE STEP TOWARDS STABILIZING SOCIETY IN ORDER TO INSTITUTE ECONOMIC REFORMS
forestnr4: Powerful comment by Desert Princess: For those of you who don't understand why Maliki is able to, blah, blah, blah, all over the place; In our culture, humiliation publicly of someone in his position and stature, is mightier than death itself. They're allowing him to do that and dig his own proverbial grave. You've heard of, give someone enough rope, they'll.......! He's doing it! Sit back, grab some popcorn and watch! 

BOBBY: forestnr4.... seems like Maliki is coming full circle

forestnr4: ‹@BOBBY› It is just a matter of time... 

chattels: ‹@OOTW› a cashless society where funds are traceable to the card user

BOBBY: forestnr4. ... imagine the response when it does happen

keli15: Hi everyone does anyone know what happened to the parliament meeting for today

chattels: ‹@keli15› accomplished the first reading of the revenue law

keli15: Wow, I thought once they were back that the laws they were working on would be voted on today
BOBBY: Chattels. ... what happened to members of Parliament being obligated by Abadi to attend
chattels: ‹@keli15› you must be reading too much " zeroday " news
keli15: Chattels,  sure sounds like it zero news
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› we read from time to time that penalties are imposed for failure to attend or there is a threat of removal, but .....................
OOTW: ‹@chattels› yes economies all over the world seem to be aiming to "cashless"

keli15: Hi OOTW big hugs  

chattels: ‹@keli15› sczinn posted about the initiation of the national card - Abadi press conference

OOTW: hiya Keli

chattels: ‹@keli15› Government launches national card and Abadi calls for parliament to approve the law for the security benefits 
PLEASE VISIT ####.### AND #####.### TO SEE RELATED ARTICLES AND COMMENTS
chattels: ‹@keli15› anti-corruption inititative it appears

keli15: Charles that is awesome saw the article about the cards. Thanks for the info.
OOTW: big hugs to you too Keli
keli15: Oops sorry chattels crazy spell check 
chattels: i threatened to leave earlier - gone now 
OOTW: byeee
keli15: Wow chattels good news. Thanks again just not too happy about not passing any laws like hcl article 140 etc
OOTW: Keli they had the first reading of the Federal Revenue Law - this is a great first step towards resolving issues of payment distributions between the Centre and the Regions including Kurdistan
OOTW: JUST FOUND THIS
OOTW: cabinet: archives tariff passport or identity card The Council of Ministers to simplify the procedures to adopt the archives and accounting employee violator to work this decision came in a statement by the Information Office of the Prime Minister that the Council of Ministers approved, through its recommendation to simplify the procedures with respect to the adoption of formal archives tariff (identity card or passport), and archives own housing ( The housing card or the endorsement housing) unless the law requires submission of other documents. The office said in its statement that the council stressed accountability offending employee to work the contents of this resolution.
keli15: Wow looks like they are on their way in getting things done.
OOTW: YES, WE'LL SEE...ONE DAY AT A TIME - WE'RE SEEING FANTASTIC PROGRESS TOWARDS COMPLETION OF LAWS, MORE EVIDENCE THEY'RE GOING TO ENACT THE TARIFFS, AND OPEN TRADE WITH SURROUNDING COUNTRIES - SPEAKING OF: THERE'S A GREAT ARTICLE IN THE FORUMS ABOUT THE NEED FOR IRAQ TO OPEN UP THEIR ECONOMY - BECAUSE OF IRAN'S LIBERATION FROM SOME SANCTIONS.  THEY'RE ADDRESSING CORRUPTION - I'LL KEEP WATCHING THESE ARTICLES RE THE 10K AND 25K NOTES VS LAW AND THE POTENTIAL PROGRESSION OF THIS SITUATION. IT'S ALL GOOD AND I DO SEE THAT THE CENTRE IS TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY SHOULD TO WORK THE OIL AND GASS ISSUES/HCL WITH THE KURDS..THE READING OF THE FEDERAL REVENUE LAW IS A GREAT FIRST STEP.

 

 

Thank you ####.### !  All official press releases related to this chat can be found at the site.

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[bigwave]

"keli15: Wow looks like they are on their way in getting things done.
OOTW: YES, WE'LL SEE...ONE DAY AT A TIME -"

 

In the coming days...
 

[Jaygo]

Nobody has the time to read all this.

[Frangipani]

jaygo - ##### is about backing up their take on the news with the links to the actual and often times official press releases, so if you would like, you may go to that site and participate in the chat room to get information first hand or poke around in the forum where they post breakdown's on official press releases and articles and how they relate to laws etc.

 

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[EagleEye]

so DB what is your take on this ...is it truly the HCL IYO ???

[SnowGlobe7]

I would like more opinions on this as well

[sandfly]

HERE'S ONE SOON

[DinarThug]

so if you would like, you may go to that site 

 

****   We do not spam our links on other boards – do not mention other dinar sites here. Only post links to LEGITIMATE NEWS SOURCES.  *****

 

We Already Have The Best Site With The #1 Newshound In This Entire Investment - Master Yota !

 

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[TBomb]

so DB what is your take on this ...is it truly the HCL IYO ???

THIS IS PART OF AN ARTICLE WHICH SPEAKS TO THIS :

 

$7.3 billion on KRG fuel imports could have been saved with affordable gas: Luay al-Khatteeb

Written on June 27, 2015 by Editor in Economy, Iraq, KRG, Kurd news, Kurdistan, Oil

Interview by Harem Karem:

Luay al-Khatteeb is a nonresident fellow in the Brookings Doha Center and founder of Iraq Energy Institute, focusing on the geopolitics and political economy of the GCC and Iraq. His experiences in the private sector span more than 20 years, and he is a frequent commentator on issues related to energy security, economics, and politics in the Gulf region.

Q1: How do you see the future of the current deal between Baghdad and Erbil? We are handing over the agreed oil volumes to Baghdad and fighting a war with ISIS. Why is the federal government still not paying the full monthly budget allocation to the KRG? How can Baghdad/Erbil relations improve?

LK: All oil deals between Baghdad and Erbil are doomed before they start. There is a history to this that goes back to 2007 and I have lost count of how many failed deals called “Erbil Agreement” there have been. They are usually based on a vague understanding between federal and regional authorities to resolve a political bottleneck before every federal government formation or when attempting to pass the federal budget law. I therefore see no reason why this deal will succeed when they are only used as a primitive tool to solve a political impasse rather than resolve the history of fair allocation and auditing.

On volumes and financial commitments. According to the deal signed on 2nd Dec 2014, the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) pledges to export under Baghdad’s supervision 300,000 barrels of oil per day from oil fields it now controls in Kirkuk province in addition to 250,000 barrels per day produced from the three provinces officially under the KRG’s jurisdiction. In return, the Iraqi federal government will hand 17% of actual expenditures of the national budget (after deducting sovereign expenses) to the KRG starting from 1st Jan 2015. According to the budget law, the KRG expected around one billion dollars per month to receive from Baghdad, which is way above the commercial value of the 550Kb/d. However, the deal did not work accordingly for the following reasons:

1. The Ministry of Natural Resources has failed to deliver the full export volumes agreed from day one, for example the daily average volumes MNR delivered in January did not exceed 145K compared the 550K/day therefore a deficit of at least 400K/bbl a day is registered by the Federal trading agency State Oil Marketing Organization (SOMO).
2. Both MNR and SOMO continued to differ in the following months over inventories of what was delivered and sold per month.
3. Iraqi oil prices and export volumes from the south did not meet the targets stated in the federal budget law (3.3 million barrel a day @ $56/bbl) compared to actual exports and sales (e.g. in Jan 2015, 2.39 million barrel from the south, 145 thousand barrels from north, all at average price of $41 a barrel).

All of these issues have affected the pro-rata payments sent by the federal Ministry of Finance to the KRG. The KRG tried to reach an agreement with the Federal Government by requesting full budget allocations regardless of monthly production promising that targets will be met in due course, however the federal government opted to handle payments based on monthly performance as this will impact all provinces and not only the region of Kurdistan. It can only afford to pay for what is actually produced as the Iraq budget deficit rises.

The only way forward to resolve these disagreements between Baghdad and Erbil is to pass the Federal Revenue Sharing Law and the Federal Hydrocarbon Law, as well as establishing the relevant federal institutions underpinned by these laws to regulate the practice in Federal Iraq across all provinces and regions. With a failure to do so, current and future political deals will continue to be short-lived and fail drastically, prolonging the ongoing institutional and constitutional vacuum that has existed since 2006.

 

SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES THE FEDERAL REVENUE SHARING LAW IS A BIG DEAL AND IS A STEP TOWARDS DISTRIBUTION OF OIL MONIES (AND OTHER FUNDS) TO THE PROVINCES, INCLUDING KURDISTAN..IT'S A BIG DEAL.

 

AGAIN IF YOU VISITED THE SITE, YOU'D SEE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS 

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[TBomb]

how many people in the dinar community can copy and paste an article? plenty. some even know how to post these and can figure out how to highlight in orange an purple..and can even manage to highlight buzz words...but then when it comes to analyzing and putting the pieces together, nah ah..but they're sure good at degrading women.

[dinarbeleiver]

how many people in the dinar community can copy and paste an article? plenty. some even know how to post these and can figure out how to highlight in orange an purple..and can even manage to highlight buzz words...but then when it comes to analyzing and putting the pieces together, nah ah..but they're sure good at degrading women.

hi Tbomb good to see you. I agree it's shameful when men think they can degrade women. I'm glad my mum brought me up to respect women God bless her soul. It's amazing that in this day and age this stuff still goes on!

[dinarbeleiver]

I also have to say the best analysis and opinions on the dinar speculation has definately come from women. Tbomb you rock!

[dinarbeleiver]

I like the fact that two particular women on this site can decipher and break down laws and articles instead of nicking it from frankies site.

[DinarThug]

Lol !

Thanks For The Neg's And For Plussing Each Other While U Come On To DV And Try To Pump Ur 'New' Site !

[dinarbeleiver]

Lol !

Thanks For The Neg's And For Plussing Each Other While U Come On To DV And Try To Pump Ur 'New' Site !

I do hate disrespect to women thug I'm sorry it's a British thing. I guess you have been to the site - your welcome to steal anything you want !

[Markinsa]

I do hate disrespect to women thug I'm sorry it's a British thing. I guess you have been to the site - your welcome to steal anything you want !

 

If this is your site you are breaking Forum Rules and becoming very close to losing your membership to DV by promoting it here.

 

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[dinarbeleiver]

If this is your site you are breaking Forum Rules and becoming very close to losing your membership to DV by promoting it here.

 

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hi Markinsa its not my site I don't have enough time to run a website. I just like OOTW and scezin11 and I want to bring their stuff over here.

I will follow forum rules

[DinarThug]

I do hate disrespect to women thug I'm sorry it's a British thing. I guess you have been to the site - your welcome to steal anything you want !

Nah - I Haven't Been To Whatever Site This Is That U Guys Are Pumping !

But It Does Sounds Like A Real Irony When U Come On Here And Preach

While Trying To Profit From A Country That Forces Women To Wear Burqa's !

[dinarbeleiver]

And the last thing I want is to be banned again

Nah - I Haven't Been To Whatever Site This Is That U Guys Are Pumping !

But It Does Sounds Like A Real Irony When U Come On Here And Preach

While Trying To Profit From A Country That Forces Women To Wear Burqa's !

there is load of ironys with the dinar. For example people who say they care about the Iraqi people when we are investing in blood money. But hey ho! All money is blood money and you could say all money is disresoectful to women to

[DinarThug]

And the last thing I want is to be banned again

Ah It's All Good Andrew - I Know How Passionate U Are About This Investment !

But Too Bad Keep's Not Here To 'Keep' U On The Straight And Narrow !

[dinarbeleiver]

Ah It's All Good Andrew - I Know How Passionate U Are About This Investment !

But Too Bad Keep's Not Here To 'Keep' U On The Straight And Narrow !

whats happened to keep BTW

[DinarThug]

whats happened to keep BTW

Idk - He Moved Here Last Year To A BMW Dealership In The Phoenix Area

And I Left Him A Message On His Profile To Meet Up For A Beer But He Didn't Respond !

Can U Blame Him ?

[dinarbeleiver]

A lot of the lopsters seemed to have disappeared. Personally I keep away from these days - had enough of the arguing

He did get a good roasting from dontlop and myself but I leave those guys well alone now

[DinarThug]

Fyi DB - DontLop Got Banned !

[dinarbeleiver]

Can I come to a compromise with you dinarthug- please don't post anything derogatory to women on my threads please and I won't get all uperty

I saw dontlop getting banned he went off the rocket

I do miss dontlop and in a funny way I do miss keepem

I lost my mum recently dinarthug and it's another reason why I don't like seeing derogatory stuff about women

It's a sore point for me at the moment and I have been trying to cope with everything that has gone on in my life

I haven't been around because my life went totally downhill these past three months