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BREAKING: CRUZ CAMPAIGN RESPONDS TO CONSERVATIVES UPSET OVER TRADE VOTE


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June 12, 2015 By Scottie Hughes
 
Many Conservatives were shocked when they learned of Senator Ted Cruz’s support of the Trade Promotion Authority. A bill, which has drawn lots of fire mainly because of the people who up until now have been the spokesman but that obviously was not working for Speaker Boehner or Senator McConnell as they have now brought in Senator Ted Cruz to help guarantee the bill’s passage.
 
Rep. Paul Ryan made the Pelosi like mistake on Wednesday during the Rules Committee testimony when he referenced the content of Obamatrade by saying, “It’s declassified and made public once it’s agreed to.” Coupled with the main cheerleader of the legislation being President Obama himself, we can see why Conservatives are extremely concerned regarding both the TPA and the TPP.
 
Catherine Frazier, National Press Secretary for the Cruz for President campaign told TPNN in an interview this morning that “Americans are right to ask questions in the effort to hold their elected officials accountable. And they are right to make sure that any trade deal brokered between other nations is made public and receives approval from Congress–ONLY Congress has authority to make US law. Trade Promotion Authority ensures appropriate oversight from Congress BEFORE any trade agreement is implemented. We should champion free trade, while also of course ensuring our sovereignty is upheld. Sen. Cruz hasn’t committed to TPP because it is not yet final, and will only support a trade agreement that preserves our sovereignty and is in the best interests of Americans.”
 
My questions came as a follow up to a previous email Frazier had sent in hopes of trying to clarify some of the misconceptions of the 2 pieces of legislation as well as explain why Senator Cruz was in support of TPA.
 
Still, I believe Conservatives are justified in their questioning and once again this whole controversy could have been avoided if both pieces of legislation would have been opened to the public for review.  Not to mention, bringing in one of the top Conservative voices in the 4th quarter of the game on one hand shows a lack of strategy but on the other the power that Tea Party supported officials possess.  Power that usually is forgotten or insulted by House and Senate leadership unless needed for passage of a Bill like TPA.
 
A Note to Conservatives on Trade Agreements
 
Senator Cruz entirely understands the widespread suspicion of the President.  Nobody has been more vocal in pointing out the President’s lawlessness or more passionate about fighting his usurpation of congressional authority.
 
Senator Cruz would not and will not give President Obama one more inch of unrestricted power.
 
There have been a lot of questions and concerns about the ongoing Pacific trade negotiations.  Many of those concerns, fueled by the media, stem from confusion about Trade Promotion Authority (TPA) and the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).  Let’s unpack the issues one by one.
 
What are TPA and TPP?
 
TPA stands for Trade Promotion Authority, also known as “fast track”.  TPA is a process by which trade agreements are approved by Congress.  Through TPA, Congress sets out up-front objectives for the Executive branch to achieve in free trade negotiations; in exchange for following those objectives, Congress agrees to hold an up-or-down vote on trade agreements without amendments.  For the past 80 years, it has proven virtually impossible to negotiate free-trade agreements without the fast-track process.
 
TPP stands for Trans-Pacific Partnership.  TPP is a specific trade agreement currently being negotiated by the United States and 11 other countries, including Canada, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand.  China is not a negotiating partner.  There is no final language on TPP because negotiations are still ongoing and have been since late 2009.  Neither the Senate nor the House has voted yet on the TPP.  There will be no vote on TPP until the negotiations are over and the final agreement is sent to Congress.
 
Some Key Facts:
 

      Neither the Senate nor the House has voted yet on the TPP.

 

      Congress is the only entity that can make U.S. law and nothing about TPP or TPA could change that.

 

      TPA gives the Congress more control up-front over free trade agreements.

 

      TPA mandates transparency by requiring all trade agreements (including TPP) to be made public for at least 60 days before the Congress can act on them.

 
Does TPA give up the Senate’s treaty power?
 
No.  Under the Constitution, there are two ways to make binding law:  (1) through a treaty, ratified by two-thirds of the Senate, or (2) through legislation passed by a majority of both Houses of Congress.  TPA employs the second constitutional path, as trade bills always have done.  It has long been recognized that the Constitution’s Origination Clause applies to trade bills, requiring the House of Representatives’ involvement.
 
Does the United States give up Sovereignty by entering into TPP?
 
No.  Nothing in the agreement forces Congress to change any law.  TPA explicitly provides that nothing in any trade agreement can change U.S. law.  Congress is the only entity that can make U.S. law, and Congress is the only entity that can change U.S. law.  Nothing about TPP or TPA could change that.
 
Does Senator Ted Cruz support TPP?
 
Senator Cruz has not taken a position either in favor or against TPP.  He will wait until the agreement is finalized and he has a chance to study it carefully to ensure that the agreement will open more markets to American-made products, create jobs, and grow our economy.  Senator Cruz has dedicated his professional career to defending U.S. sovereignty and the U.S. Constitution.  He will not support any trade agreement that would diminish or undermine either.
 
Does Senator Ted Cruz support TPA?
 
Yes.  Senator Cruz voted in favor of TPA earlier this year because it breaks the logjam that is preventing the U.S. from entering into trade deals that are good for American workers, American businesses, and our economy.  Ronald Reagan emphatically supported free trade, and Senator Cruz does as well.  He ran for Senate promising to support free trade, and he is honoring that commitment to the voters.
 
Free trade helps American farmers, ranchers, and manufacturers; indeed, one in five American jobs depends on trade, in Texas alone 3 million jobs depend on trade.  When we open up foreign markets, we create American jobs.
 
TPA also strengthens Congress’ hand in trade negotiations, and provides transparency by making the agreement (including TPP) public for at least 60 days before the Congress can act on any final agreement.  Without TPA, there is no such transparency, and the Congress’ role in trade agreements is weaker.
 
Is TPA Constitutional?
 
TPA and similar trade authority has been upheld by the Supreme Court as constitutional for more than 100 years.
 
Does TPA give the President more authority?
 
No. TPA ensures that Congress has the ability to set the objectives up-front for free trade agreements.
 
Trade Promotion Authority has been used to reduce trade barriers since FDR.  When Harry Reid took over the Senate, he killed it.  History demonstrates that it is almost impossible to negotiate a free-trade agreement without TPA.  Right now without TPA, America is unable to negotiate free-trade agreements, putting the United States at a disadvantage to China, which is taking the lead world-wide.  It is not in America’s interests to have China writing the rules of international trade.
 
Moreover, Obama is going to be president for just 18 more months.  TPA is six-year legislation.  If we want the next president (hopefully a Republican) to be able to negotiate free-trade agreements to restart our economy and create jobs here at home then we must reinstate TPA.  With a Republican president in office, Senate Democrats would almost certainly vote party-line to block TPA, so now is the only realistic chance.
 
How can Senator Cruz trust Obama?
 
He doesn’t.  Not at all.  No part of Senator Cruz’s support for TPA was based on trusting Obama.  However, under TPA, every trade deal is still subject to approval by Congress.  If the Obama Administration tries to do something terrible in a trade agreement, Congress can vote it down.  And most congressional Democrats will always vote no—because union bosses oppose free trade, so do most Democrats—which means a handful of conservative congressional Republicans have the votes to kill any bad deal.  That’s a serious check on presidential power.
 
Isn’t TPP a “living agreement”?
 
That particular phrase—a foolish and misleading way to put it—is found in the “summary” portion of one particular section of the draft agreement.  That section allows member nations to amend the agreement in the future, expressly subject to the approval of their governments.  Thus, if some amendment were proposed in the future, Congress would have to approve it before it went into effect.
 
But isn’t TPA a secret agreement?
 
No, it is not.  The full text of TPA (fast track) is public.  What the Senate just voted for was TPA, not TPP.
 
Right now, the text of TPP is classified.  That is a mistake.  Senator Cruz has vigorously called on the Obama administration to make the full text of TPP open to the public immediately.  The text being hidden naturally only fuels concerns about what might be in it.  Senator Cruz has read the current draft of TPP, and it should be made public now.
 
Critically, under TPA, TPP cannot be voted on until after the text has been public for 60 days.  Therefore, everyone will be able to read it long before it comes up for a vote.
 
Couldn’t Obama use a trade agreement to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants?
 
No. There is one section of TPP that concerns immigration, but it affects only foreign nations—the United States has explicitly declined to sign on to that section.
 
Moreover, Senator Cruz introduced a TPA amendment to expressly prohibit any trade deal from attempting to alter our immigration laws.
 
Two Republican Senators (Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul) blocked the Senate’s consideration of that amendment, but the House of Representatives has agreed to include that language in the final text of the trade legislation.  Thus, assuming the House honors that public commitment, federal law will explicitly prohibit any trade deal from impacting immigration.
 
And, regardless, no trade agreement can change U.S. law; only Congress can change U.S.law.
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So...crud is sayin, "don't trust Ocrap, trust me", until it's too late to do anything about it, then, it'll be "hey, don't worry, your just too stupid to see how freakin awesome this will be", until we lose another few million jobs, the UN takes over the internet, the new rulers decide America needs to operate under international law, and they then take our guns.

 

It's bull.

 

If crud was honest he would have agreed it was bull until we had full disclosure.

 

Don't say it's a "mistake" to keep it secret, then LEAVE it secret.

 

Cruz is turning into nothin but CRUD....

 

As for changing US law, that claim isn't exactly true, ESPECIALLY since there's language in the trade pact that gives authority to the international governing body.

 

As it is right now, the UN police do IN FACT have authority over domestic law enforcement, through unchallenged executive order, in the small arms deal in 2009.

 

The UN has simply chosen to not exercise that authority just yet, but they definitely have it.

 

If this TPP goes through, the PTB's will have enough "authority" through EO's and shady trade deals to pull just about anything they want, and we will be left to file a complaint somewhere in the Netherlands.

 

We are being sold out.

 

What we need is FAIR TRADE.

 

Not favored nation status, not Asian partnerships, not free imports.

 

No more FTZ's,(Free Trade Zone), about 670 in the USA, where foreign workers make stuff in fenced off "international" areas. they then drive a truck through a gate and they are in America.

The workers have no visas, the buildings are owned by foreign companies, they are not subject to US laws, wages, inspections, or rights. This is how stuff is made in "China" and skips freight.

Here's a list of the FTZ's in America http://enforcement.trade.gov/ftzpage/letters/ftzlist-map.html

 

Tax incoming the same as our goods are there.

 

Build American machine tool capabilities back to what it was in the 50's.

 

We don't need anymore service contracts.

 

We need American manufacturing for a stable middle class.

 

NOTHING ELSE can ever bring the stability and security, or the necessarily responsive government that serves a strong working class.

 

Anything else and you can kiss your tush goodbye.....JMHO...DM

 

 

 

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      Congress is the only entity that can make U.S. law <--- Except Obama and his pen, which the congress and senate seems to be terrified of.

     

No.  Under the Constitution, there are two ways to make binding law:  (1) through a treaty, ratified by two-thirds of the Senate, or (2) through legislation passed by a majority of both Houses of Congress.  
 
  Congress is the only entity that can make U.S. law, and Congress is the only entity that can change U.S. law.  <--- Above mentioned pen aside, congress loves FTZ, NAFTA, and CAFTA, the TPP is continuing and expanding these.
 
Free trade helps American farmers, ranchers, and manufacturers; indeed, one in five American jobs depends on trade, in Texas alone 3 million jobs depend on trade.  <-- Yes we do depend on trade, and manufacturing can either increase through good Fair trade, or, when America has been so decimated the dollar is almost worthless, in which case wages for anything manufactured here will still be meaningless, and even those assembly jobs will be given to the illegals.
 
TPA also strengthens Congress’ hand in trade negotiations, < Oh great, then they can shove whatever they want down our throats with impunity.
 
 Congress can vote it down.< REALLY? Why even go there? Go public on the whole thing and let us decide FIRST
    
 There is one section of TPP that concerns immigration, but it affects only foreign nations—the United States has explicitly declined to sign on to that section. < Oh gosh, I feel so much better. It doesn't matter that they TRIED to screw us, we "found" it, and by golly we stood up. If "they" tried to take advantage once, you KNOW they gonna try again. Where is this trust earned?
 
Moreover, Senator Cruz introduced a TPA amendment to expressly prohibit any trade deal from attempting to alter our immigration laws. < uh... it's supposed to be for goods already produced, not goods that can be produced. Using this agreement to even try to change our immigration laws is vile and heinous.
 
And, regardless, no trade agreement can change U.S. law; only Congress can change U.S.law.< And congress will be just as tough on this as they were on obama's illegal amnesty, what is it, 5 million more illegals on welfare with drivers licenses and counting, with NOTHING from congress to stop them. How are we supposed to actually depend on congress if they are proven to be nothing but cowards and liars?

 

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After passing his Obama care plan first inorder to findout what is in it, I will never trust any legislation that my President is supporting if any part of it whatsoever is kept from public examination. Be it so complicated or "classified." Period. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

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After passing his Obama care plan first in order to find out what is in it, I will never trust any legislation that my President is supporting if any part of it whatsoever is kept from public examination. Be it so complicated or "classified." Period. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

 

I feel the same way NYK!!! Only thing is...this is a 100 X worse than Obama Care! That can be fixed or reversed.

 

This TPP is so dangerous to our sovereignty...they are lying through their teeth when they say it's not.

A very small portion of the treaty deals with trade...the rest is about patents, regulations and screwing us over.

Our medicines are going to be more dangerous..no more generics will be available...the $$'s will go through the roof.

There are conditions in there about providers policing us on  the internet for copyrights and more BS to limit us.

DM is right about the 'International Courts'...the corporations can take any State, County or City to THEIR COURT if

the State, County or City passes any laws that they deem as cutting into THEIR PROFITS, even if it was done for safety

 

I dunno...it looks like the party of 'No' became the party of 'Yes' at the worst possible time...that is really bad for all of us.

All we can do is keep the pressure on them by calling and emailing our reps...I've been doing that for most of a year.

 

Let's hope for a miracle...that they will actually listen to us...

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"TPA also strengthens Congress’ hand in trade negotiations, and provides transparency by making the agreement (including TPP) public for at least 60 days before the Congress can act on any final agreement. Without TPA, there is no such transparency, and the Congress’ role in trade agreements is weaker."

I am confused. According to Paul Pelosi-Ryan the text of TPP will be made public once it is passed, but this statement says that the text would be made public 60 days before Congress votes on it.

Does that mean that since TPA failed, TPP can remain hidden from We The People when voted on by Congress?

My thought is that if any proposed legislation is deemed classified until signed into law, it should be rejected based on that fact alone. If any bill can not be openly debated in Congress then there is no way our elected officials can claim they are representing us.

IMHO.

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Not according to the guy holding Our Republic hostage with nothing more than "his pen and his phone"... <_<

Just another executive order.

I feel the same way NYK!!! Only thing is...this is a 100 X worse than Obama Care! That can be fixed or reversed.

 

This TPP is so dangerous to our sovereignty...they are lying through their teeth when they say it's not.

A very small portion of the treaty deals with trade...the rest is about patents, regulations and screwing us over.

Our medicines are going to be more dangerous..no more generics will be available...the $$'s will go through the roof.

There are conditions in there about providers policing us on  the internet for copyrights and more BS to limit us.

DM is right about the 'International Courts'...the corporations can take any State, County or City to THEIR COURT if

the State, County or City passes any laws that they deem as cutting into THEIR PROFITS, even if it was done for safety

 

I dunno...it looks like the party of 'No' became the party of 'Yes' at the worst possible time...that is really bad for all of us.

All we can do is keep the pressure on them by calling and emailing our reps...I've been doing that for most of a year.

 

Let's hope for a miracle...that they will actually listen to us...

Yep. Just look what nafta did to us. Combined with the minimum wage being hiked in some county's we would have lost so many jobs.

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      Congress is the only entity that can make U.S. law <--- Except Obama and his pen, which the congress and senate seems to be terrified of.

     

No.  Under the Constitution, there are two ways to make binding law:  (1) through a treaty, ratified by two-thirds of the Senate, or (2) through legislation passed by a majority of both Houses of Congress.  
 
  Congress is the only entity that can make U.S. law, and Congress is the only entity that can change U.S. law.  <--- Above mentioned pen aside, congress loves FTZ, NAFTA, and CAFTA, the TPP is continuing and expanding these.
 
Free trade helps American farmers, ranchers, and manufacturers; indeed, one in five American jobs depends on trade, in Texas alone 3 million jobs depend on trade.  <-- Yes we do depend on trade, and manufacturing can either increase through good Fair trade, or, when America has been so decimated the dollar is almost worthless, in which case wages for anything manufactured here will still be meaningless, and even those assembly jobs will be given to the illegals.
 
TPA also strengthens Congress’ hand in trade negotiations, < Oh great, then they can shove whatever they want down our throats with impunity.
 
 Congress can vote it down.< REALLY? Why even go there? Go public on the whole thing and let us decide FIRST
    
 There is one section of TPP that concerns immigration, but it affects only foreign nations—the United States has explicitly declined to sign on to that section. < Oh gosh, I feel so much better. It doesn't matter that they TRIED to screw us, we "found" it, and by golly we stood up. If "they" tried to take advantage once, you KNOW they gonna try again. Where is this trust earned?
 
Moreover, Senator Cruz introduced a TPA amendment to expressly prohibit any trade deal from attempting to alter our immigration laws. < uh... it's supposed to be for goods already produced, not goods that can be produced. Using this agreement to even try to change our immigration laws is vile and heinous.
 
And, regardless, no trade agreement can change U.S. law; only Congress can change U.S.law.< And congress will be just as tough on this as they were on obama's illegal amnesty, what is it, 5 million more illegals on welfare with drivers licenses and counting, with NOTHING from congress to stop them. How are we supposed to actually depend on congress if they are proven to be nothing but cowards and liars?

 

 

Well said. This would have been just another feather in Obama's hat and another knife in the USA's back. Every time Obama takes action the USA looses. Like rush Limbaugh once stated, I hope Obama is a failure. Too bad he has not failed so much at what he wants, we would have been such a better country to live in. 

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I dunno...it looks like the party of 'No' became the party of 'Yes' at the worst possible time...that is really bad for all of us.

All we can do is keep the pressure on them by calling and emailing our reps...I've been doing that for most of a year.

 

Let's hope for a miracle...that they will actually listen to us...

 

It may be more a matter of the fact that the different parties were only designed to divide Americans, and now that they are almost done, the false opposing doctrines are now being shown as identical.

They are owned by the same people, the only difference is the face of the oppressor. 

 

You are correct, for now, all we can do is continue to keep screaming in their ear.

Thank you for your activism, we need millions more to join in.

 

I am confused. According to Paul Pelosi-Ryan the text of TPP will be made public once it is passed, but this statement says that the text would be made public 60 days before Congress votes on it.

Does that mean that since TPA failed, TPP can remain hidden from We The People when voted on by Congress?

 

The whole premise is the claimed urgency.

It is as deceitful and offensive as it gets.

The dems, in order to claim they are watching out for their supporters, demanded a bill to retrain all the workers whose jobs will be lost to oversea manufacturing.

 None are claiming we wont lose jobs.

The cons are saying we will get more jobs, but what they fail to mention is that will only happen AFTER America suffers another severe economic crisis.

Once the middle class has been destroyed, and by extension the value of the US Dollar a fraction of what it is now, then companies will "probably" start making stuff in America to export because Americans will be working for so cheap, and their dollar will be crap anyway. So that means that other currencies, like the Euro, will be so increased in value it will be a bargain to build a plant in America.

 

The dems demanded the TAA, (Trade Adjustment Assistance), be voted into law separately, because they already know any promise to make sure it is a rider on the TPP is bull.

It's only for insurance, just in case Americans suddenly pull their heads out of their asses and realize in sufficient numbers what is going on.

 

If there are no more manufacturing jobs left, they can train you to carry 5 plates on one arm for your new job, food server to all the foreigners that suddenly own America.

 

 

Just another executive order.

Yep. Just look what nafta did to us. Combined with the minimum wage being hiked in some county's we would have lost so many jobs.

 

Over 1 million jobs directly, with another 10 million indirectly, and a loss of billions to our economy.

 

While it was sweet revenge to watch the Mexican auto workers go on strike a few years ago, all the "American" makers  have plants down there, think it's  Ford that has the biggest single plant in the world in Mexico.

 

To add insult to injury, Mexico isnt taking care of their own citizens with all the extra money they are making, instead they still allow them to sneak into America, to be supported by the same morons that gave away their jobs.

 

 

 

Well said. This would have been just another feather in Obama's hat and another knife in the USA's back. Every time Obama takes action the USA looses. Like rush Limbaugh once stated, I hope Obama is a failure. Too bad he has not failed so much at what he wants, we would have been such a better country to live in. 

 

I wish I could blame o, but truth is, he isn't nearly as smart as people give him credit for.

obummer is a narrow minded, vile, petty, angry little dirt bag.

He was put in his position because of the demographics he could control.

Bush was so freaking bad a lot of republicans voted for obama because McCain was just a pathetic Bush.

 

It was planned centuries ago, it just took a little time to start the brainwashing.

 

Even if obummer quit and left tomorrow, we would still be in deep because of all the corrupt politicians, fed by the corrupt unions, taught by the progressive, agenda driven teachers, using text books paid for by America hating globalists.

 

It a full spectrum assault.

 

We need a full spectrum response.

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Wikileaks Exposes Obama’s Fake Trade Deal – Only 5 Of The 29 Chapters Are Actually About Trade
 
 
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Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks, gives us an example as to how corporations will literally run our country:  If a public hospital is built close to a private one owned by a participating corporation, the private hospital can to SUE the COUNTRY for ANTICIPATED losses. The corporation is king and can even make claims based on expected future losses, not actual losses.
 
Making all of this even more horrific is the fact that once signed, it’s very difficult for a country to get out of it because it’s a multinational agreement. One would have to go back to the negotiating  table with 11 other nations to make any changes.
 
WikiLeaks releases today the “Investment Chapter” from the secret negotiations of the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) agreement. The document adds to the previous WikiLeaks publications of the chapters for Intellectual Property Rights (November 2013) and the Environment (January 2014).
 
The TPP Investment Chapter, published today, is dated 20 January 2015. The document is classified and supposed to be kept secret for four years after the entry into force of the TPP agreement or, if no agreement is reached, for four years from the close of the negotiations.
 
Julian Assange, WikiLeaks editor said: “The TPP has developed in secret an unaccountable supranational court for multinationals to sue states. This system is a challenge to parliamentary and judicial sovereignty. Similar tribunals have already been shown to chill the adoption of sane environmental protection, public health and public transport policies.”
 
Current TPP negotiation member states are the United States, Japan, Mexico, Canada, Australia, Malaysia, Chile, Singapore, Peru, Vietnam, New Zealand and Brunei. The TPP is the largest economic treaty in history, including countries that represent more than 40 per cent of the world´s GDP.
 
The Investment Chapter highlights the intent of the TPP negotiating parties, led by the United States, to increase the power of global corporations by creating a supra-national court, or tribunal, where foreign firms can “sue” states and obtain taxpayer compensation for “expected future profits”. These investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) tribunals are designed to overrule the national court systems. ISDS tribunals introduce a mechanism by which multinational corporations can force governments to pay compensation if the tribunal states that a country’s laws or policies affect the company’s claimed future profits. In return, states hope that multinationals will invest more. Similar mechanisms have already been used. For example, US tobacco company Phillip Morris used one such tribunal to sue Australia (June 2011 – ongoing) for mandating plain packaging of tobacco products on public health grounds; and by the oil giant Chevron against Ecuador in an attempt to evade a multi-billion-dollar compensation ruling for polluting the environment. The threat of future lawsuits chilled environmental and other legislation in Canada after it was sued by pesticide companies in 2008/9. ISDS tribunals are often held in secret, have no appeal mechanism, do not subordinate themselves to human rights laws or the public interest, and have few means by which other affected parties can make representations.
 
The TPP negotiations have been ongoing in secrecy for five years and are now in their final stages. In the United States the Obama administration plans to “fast-track” the treaty through Congress without the ability of elected officials to discuss or vote on individual measures. This has met growing opposition as a result of increased public scrutiny following WikiLeaks’ earlier releases of documents from the negotiations.
 
The TPP is set to be the forerunner to an equally secret agreement between the US and EU, the TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership).
 
Negotiations for the TTIP were initiated by the Obama administration in January 2013. Combined, the TPP and TTIP will cover more than 60 per cent of global GDP. The third treaty of the same kind, also negotiated in secrecy is TISA, on trade in services, including the financial and health sectors. It covers 50 countries, including the US and all EU countries. WikiLeaks released the secret draft text of the TISA’s financial annex in June 2014.
 
All these agreements on so-called “free trade” are negotiated outside the World Trade Organization’s (WTO) framework. Conspicuously absent from the countries involved in these agreements are the BRICs countries of Brazil, Russia, India and China.
 
Read the Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP) – Investment chapter

Julian Assange on the TPP: Secretive Deal Isn’t About Trade, But Corporate Control
Published on May 27, 2015

http://democracynow.org - As negotiations continue, WikiLeaks has published leaked chapters of the secret Trans-Pacific Partnership — a global trade deal between the United States and 11 other countries. The TPP would cover 40 percent of the global economy, but details have been concealed from the public. A recently disclosed "Investment Chapter" highlights the intent of U.S.-led negotiators to create a tribunal where corporations can sue governments if their laws interfere with a company’s claimed future profits. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange warns the plan could chill the adoption of health and environmental regulations.

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Even if obummer quit and left tomorrow, we would still be in deep because of all the corrupt politicians, fed by the corrupt unions, taught by the progressive, agenda driven teachers, using text books paid for by America hating globalists.

 

 

Let's get real clear about who is behind this...(TPP, TTIP and 'Fast Track' to run them through with no clarification or debate)

 

It is the INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS and BANKSTERS...They are the ones corrupting our guberment.

 

THEY are the ones writing these treaties in secret...they are the ones who are bribing our politicians to pass these.

 

NOT Progressives, Unions or Teachers...just look at the Teaparty politicians sucking this up! What in the Heck???

 

We have to identify who is behind this in order to have any kind of effective resistance...Doesn't That Make Sense???

 

We need to get a grip on what is going on, identify the REAL enemies and stop attacking the folks who are trying to help.

 

All this lefty/righty nonsense is what is going to keep us divided and help them win. Can't folks see that?

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 Only 5 Of The 29 Chapters Are Actually About Trade

 
  If a public hospital is built close to a private one owned by a participating corporation, the private hospital can to SUE the COUNTRY for ANTICIPATED losses.   expected future losses, not actual losses.
 
Making all of this even more horrific is the fact that once signed, it’s very difficult for a country to get out of it because it’s a multinational agreement. One would have to go back to the negotiating  table with 11 other nations to make any changes.
 
supposed to be kept secret for four years after the entry into force of the TPP agreement or, if no agreement is reached, for four years from the close of the negotiations.
 an unaccountable supranational court . This system is a challenge to parliamentary and judicial sovereignty. 
 
 increase the power of global corporations
  designed to overrule the national court systems.
 if the tribunal states that a country’s laws or policies affect the company’s claimed future profits.
In return, states hope that multinationals will invest more. 
 
In the United States the Obama administration plans to “fast- without the ability of elected officials to discuss or vote on individual measures. 
 
The TPP is set to be the forerunner to an equally secret agreement between the US and EU, the TTIP (Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership).
 
Negotiations for the TTIP were initiated by the Obama administration in January 2013.
 
All these agreements on so-called “free trade” are negotiated outside the World Trade Organization’s (WTO) framework. Conspicuously absent from the countries involved in these agreements are the BRICs countries 
 

Yoda, thanks for bringing this over.

 

This entire "agreement" is nothing short of forcing America to give up sovereignty, destroy what's left of our economy, and allow the global corporation rule the world.

 

This is the fundamental change obama promised.

 

It is nothing like the change people envisioned when they elected him.

 

If everyone waits "for them to come for my guns", it will be far too late.

 

We should be marching in the streets, closing down government offices.

 

Barraging email boxes and filling up voice recorders.

 

If this goes through, it will change the entire world.

 

Even as messed up as America is, we are still the greatest defenders of human life, dignity, and compassion on the planet.

 

When we are gone, the rest will fall like dominoes.

 

Sure, a lot of you will fight to your death, and there's some that I would not hesitate to go back to back with at that time.

 

But this is NOT that time.

 

We CAN stop this.

 

It's up to you, reading this, to decide to fight for your country.

 

The greatest battles are not fought on a field, with forces dug into trenches.

 

The greatest battle is everyday.

 

Choosing to do the right thing, going to work, raising your kids, obeying the law, and refusing to give up.

 

Make no mistake, we are in a pitched battle right now, we are fighting the big money globalists purchase of our politicians.

 

As I have and others have been saying, politicians are owned by their sponsors.

 

It is time to show them exactly who they really do work for.

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