Benjamin NutnYahoo Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) I think we have all been punked by Tony, DC and all the other Gurus and punked the most by our US Government for not shutting them down. The Gov knows whats going on but revenue is being made on Dinar purchases not cash ins. Gurus get kick backs from Dinar sales. Government uses Dinar sales to help finance Iraq. I guess this is what Bush talked about when he said the war would pay for itself. Absolutely Brilliant! Time to blow the lid off this mess if people actually got paid. Edited May 24, 2015 by Benjamin NutnYahoo 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docneedles Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, May 21, 2015California Man Pleads Guilty To Operating $1.6 Million Internet FraudKANSAS CITY, KAN. – A California man pleaded guilty Thursday in federal court in Kansas to operating an Internet fraud scheme that cost more than 200 victims a total of more than $1.6 million, U.S. Attorney Barry Grissom said.Anthony Renfrow, 57, Folsom, Calif., pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. In his plea, he admitted he made fraudulent claims to entice people to pay to become “autosurf investors” with 14DailyPlus.com.Investors paid a membership fee and were promised a 14 percent daily return on their money for clicking on advertisers’ Web sites for a certain period of time each day. To achieve that rate of return, 14DailyPlus.com purportedly pooled the capital investments of members and purchased advertising units on the Internet with Fortune-500 type companies.Renfrow held regularly scheduled conference calls with investors via telephone and Internet to lull them into believing the program was legitimate and returns on investments were being paid as promised. In truth, there was no investment vehicle and the promise of a 14 percent daily return was completely unrealistic.Renfrow founded 14DailyPlus.com in March 2006. Co-defendant William Fox, 46, formerly of Olathe, Kan., allegedly was a promoter and recruiter for 14DailyPlus.com in the Kansas City metropolitan area. He is awaiting trial.Sentencing will be set for a later date. He faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in federal prison and a fine up to $250,000. Grissom commended the Internal Revenue Service – Criminal Investigation, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, the Johnson County District Attorney’s Office, the California Attorney General’s Office and Assistant U.S. Attorney Scott Rask for their work on the case.USAO - District of KansasUpdated May 21, 2015 My opinion is you have to have common sense and wear your big boy pants to be in this speculation. We haven't been punked. It is a gamble and not for everyone. Tony will get sentenced in about 90 days. He will definitely go to jail. The question is will Pam and DC continue his conference call? I have noticed a few guru's in the last couple of days who (2 weeks ago) said there will be a change in value, now say there won't be a change in value anytime soon. I wonder if they are a bit worried. Edited May 24, 2015 by docneedles 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 Quote Have we all been Punked? End Quote In general in our lives...Yes...Just for the mere fact of existing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin NutnYahoo Posted May 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 Lets see if he has his Monday Conference call? I doubt it. At least not for long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandfly Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 HE'S GONE NOW WILL HE BE THE MAN ARE WOMAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Nowhere in the Plea agreement does it say "anything" about "Dinar". The Plea was based solely on his MLM Company. . 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVWITHME Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 It all boils down to character. How will Tony do those long conferences now? How will his clueless minions exist without him until he returns with his guru spew? Don't drop your bar of soap Tony, and if you do then don't bother trying to pick it up. Bubba's watching you now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docneedles Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Nowhere in the Plea agreement does it say "anything" about "Dinar". The Plea was based solely on his MLM Company. . However Mark, this case has been postponed for years and during that time, Tony has not displayed any change in behavior. He could have gotten a job, but he didn't and when he gets sentenced in a few months, the judge will take all this into consideration. He changed his plea to guilty on Thursday and back on his conference call on Friday. He continues to promise big payouts for the dinar in his group. He has collected money for a Las Vegas RV party. Evidently, he asks for donations quite often. (i haven't listened to him in 3 years) zzzzzzzzz Dan kicked him off, so he must have known Tony was not going to change his ways. Some people are evil. Tony is now a convicted felon. All for money. Greed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelg Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Don't listen to the gurus!! Fraud is fraud and happens in any business where money can be promised without assurance. If some "yahoo" decides that he/she can get into your pockets and take your money without effort and a little deception, they will do so. It is the nature of a thief's mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eburt Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 What a mess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Folsom,how applicable... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin NutnYahoo Posted May 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Will he be back? What will he say? Did he giggle when he pleaded guilty? What will this do to his fans? I'm so confused! Edited May 25, 2015 by Benjamin NutnYahoo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 What a mess Just for a change....... Folsom,how applicable... Right...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millionaire in training Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Will he be back? What will he say? Did he giggle when he pleaded guilty? What will this do to his fans? I'm so confused! Now why on earth would this confuse you?????? Why do you even care????? You must be one of his fans to even bring it up . Anyone who's been in this investment for a while knows by now that this guy is full of And those that don't haven't been paying attention. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Nowhere in the Plea agreement does it say "anything" about "Dinar". The Plea was based solely on his MLM Company. . Agreed, I fail to see how any of this has to do with dinar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docneedles Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Agreed, I fail to see how any of this has to do with dinar. It won't come up until sentencing. The court documents from Thursday was just a change of plea from his original not guilty to guilty. Much more coming when his partner Fox starts his jury trial next month and the judge hands down his ruling on Tony in 3 months. You can bet 'the dinar' will come up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 It won't come up until sentencing. The court documents from Thursday was just a change of plea from his original not guilty to guilty. Much more coming when his partner Fox starts his jury trial next month and the judge hands down his ruling on Tony in 3 months. You can bet 'the dinar' will come up. We had a new user come on the other day who posted the Plea Agreement. In the Plea agreement, it says "The United States agrees to move to dismiss the remaining counts of the indictment at the time of sentencing.", How will they be able to charge him with anything else if they "dismiss the remaining counts"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 It won't come up until sentencing. The court documents from Thursday was just a change of plea from his original not guilty to guilty. Much more coming when his partner Fox starts his jury trial next month and the judge hands down his ruling on Tony in 3 months. You can bet 'the dinar' will come up. You may be right, but I seriously wonder if they want to shine that much light on this experiment. Just think of the legal ramifications if they were to bust that scumbag for pumping dinar and then Iraq actually did rv. What a mess that would create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthwarrior Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I have 1,000,000 dinar.it cost about 1000 dollars.what does a thousand dollars buy?not much.so if the dinar never goes up,how much did I lose?Not much 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISKY291 Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 What ever happened to OKEY?? I haven't heard his name in a long time. Did his plane crash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVWITHME Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 I have 1,000,000 dinar.it cost about 1000 dollars.what does a thousand dollars buy?not much.so if the dinar never goes up,how much did I lose?Not much If fraud in the inticement is involved, the $1,000 you may have spent on the fraud buys someone (as perp) some jail time. To Wit:...... (From Wiki). "Grand theft by stateIn the United States, a theft is determined felony grand theft instead of misdemeanor petty theft by the dollar amount of what was stolen. The dollar amount for grand theft varies from state to state. Depending on the circumstances, some states classify an incident as felony grand theft, even though the dollar amount that was stolen is less than the specified felony grand theft dollar amount. AlaskaThe Alaska State Code does not use the terms "grand theft" or "grand larceny." However, it specifies that theft of property valued at more than $500 is a felony whereas thefts of lesser amounts are misdemeanors. The felony categories (class 1 and class 2 theft) also include theft of firearms; property taken from the person of another; vessel or aircraft safety or survival equipment; and access devices. ArizonaFelony theft is committed when the value of the stolen property exceeds $1000. Regardless of the value of the item, if it is a firearm or an animal taken for the purpose of animal fighting, then the theft is a Class 6 Felony. CaliforniaGrand theft is committed when the value of stolen property exceeds $950. Theft is also considered grand theft when more than $250 in crops or marine life-forms are stolen, “when the property is taken from the person of another,” or when the property stolen is an automobile, farm animal, or firearm.[5] There are a number of criminal statutes in the California Penal Code defining grand theft in different amounts. Most common amount is $950.00."... Then again, if you can still salvage $700+ by selling those 1M Dinar to someone else (via P.T. Barnum's philosophy), the actual damage is too low to matter anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PD41 Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 The place is falling apart. Chance of a RV is slim to none in the next few years. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docneedles Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) We had a new user come on the other day who posted the Plea Agreement. In the Plea agreement, it says "The United States agrees to move to dismiss the remaining counts of the indictment at the time of sentencing.", How will they be able to charge him with anything else if they "dismiss the remaining counts"? There were many federal felony counts and Tony plead guilty to 1 (up to 20 years in jail for it). When he gets sentenced for this count he plead guilty to, the district attorney "may"ask for a dismissal of all the other counts and the judge will take that into consideration when he makes his ruling. He has already been "charged" Mark. done in 2013. Where his current activity comes into play is at sentencing is when people stand there and discuss Tony's character for the last few years in front of the judge. p.s. Did you see the video the sheriff made when Tony was entering the court? Tony has a lot of haters. More to come in 90 days. Edited May 26, 2015 by docneedles 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docneedles Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 The place is falling apart. Chance of a RV is slim to none in the next few years. I disagree. Iraq is passing laws and preparing to become more international. We just have to wait a bit longer until the security is under control. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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