climber7 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 He didn't have any "verifiable facts" to back up his argument, when I confronted him. "Not conjecture at all. Established proven verifiable facts. Google "sovereign bonds" and you can learn all about it." He came on here expecting to intimidate and scare people with non-existent "facts" (see below), that's what I don't like. . His opinion was based on what he researched and yes,it was his own personal conclusion. He wasn't trying to scare anyone off--just offering another way to look at it. In the same vein--where is YOUR 'verifiable facts' that it's going to happen the way you say it is? Just list your facts numerically (1.2.3.4......) so we can see them. I'm not staring a fight here. I'm just like every other sane logical person who's looking at all options and opinions to figure this all out. And no--I'm not a negative lopster. I'm as hopeful as everyone else. I'm just not so close minded that I write off and call names at everyone who has a different opinion. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 His opinion was based on what he researched and yes,it was his own personal conclusion. He wasn't trying to scare anyone off--just offering another way to look at it. In the same vein--where is YOUR 'verifiable facts' that it's going to happen the way you say it is? Just list your facts numerically (1.2.3.4......) so we can see them. I'm not staring a fight here. I'm just like every other sane logical person who's looking at all options and opinions to figure this all out. And no--I'm not a negative lopster. I'm as hopeful as everyone else. I'm just not so close minded that I write off and call names at everyone who has a different opinion. I don't have any facts other than what I read on the internet. He said it was "fact" as I quoted him above and as numerous lopsters tend to do when trying to convince us of their perception of our bad choice by investing in Dinar. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb45 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I'm no expert at this but as I recall Kuwait also took out a loan right after or as they RV'd. I'd like drifter to explain that one away.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomer Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Reading what Drifter has to say is nowhere as bad as drawing the conclusion a few years from now that our hope in an RV was never even in the works. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis411 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't have any facts other than what I read on the internet. He said it was "fact" as I quoted him above and as numerous lopsters tend to do when trying to convince us of their perception of our bad choice by investing in Dinar. . i have said before markinsa for president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) All 3 Remaining Followers Of The LOPster DoucheSack Site Are Really Bored After Their Blog Disappeared From The Net ! :D you got that right hahaha and IF you notice the remaining couple lopsters still lurking around here pop in at the same time when Adam put something out about the bonds and credit rating. Edited May 1, 2015 by easyrider 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhona Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Good news soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeetdog Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't know guys...we have been in this awhile...and we aint gazillionaires now...maybe we should go ahead and throw the towel-in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Montana Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 He's been kicked into the tank. I understand he said he wouldn't be back, but if I was a bettin' man (and I am!) I would take almost any odds that he'll be back Anyway, let's get this topic back on the positive note it deserves. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ly410 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Yea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) He's been kicked into the tank. I understand he said he wouldn't be back, but if I was a bettin' man (and I am!) I would take almost any odds that he'll be back Anyway, let's get this topic back on the positive note it deserves. I know I said I wouldn't do this no more but,you asked so I will provide. what if the HCL agreement that was made was if you keep your end of the bargain I will keep mine. Then after we see that we can work together,we will implement the law that was created back in 2011. given that hypothesis and your excitement and recent news,I believe it is very possible that between now and Sunday evening we would see the implementation of the HCL law. then on the 4th, full moon, boom shakalakalaka boom boom boom. Positive enough for you? Edited May 2, 2015 by Markinsa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I like the fact that this article says " is approaching rating Agencies " Plural. Hopefully we see Iraq on them all. This is a list of all the current unrated Countries. Iraq will be off this list very soon IMO. Afghanistan Antigua and Barbuda Bhutan Brunei Darussalam Burundi Central African Republic Chad Comoros Congo Cote d'Ivoire Djibouti Dominica Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Gambia Guinea Guinea-Bissau Guyana Haiti Iran Iraq Kiribati Kyrgyzstan Laos Liberia Libya Malawi Maldives Mali Marshall Islands Mauritania Monaco Myanmar Nauru Nepal Niger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeetdog Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 Yep...I'm all aboard on the HCA actually bein' the HCL incognito....Just givin' everyone enough time to get on the same page...The agreement by Barzani today should be formalities from now to the Gazette... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarThug Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 He's been kicked into the tank. Splash ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 This is a list of all the current unrated Countries. Iraq will be off this list very soon IMO. ***/// 20OCT15 to be precise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatMan Posted May 2, 2015 Report Share Posted May 2, 2015 What happens 20oct15? Sorry ladies, just afraid I missed something in all the commotion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Question: Why do folks NOT vested try to convince others that are how stupid they are? I like countless of others am vested in many ventures but this is the only one where I'm countinously told how stupid I am. If I don't believe in the possible fruits of a investment/speculation..............NEWFLASH I don't invest or sell off and move ahead. Degrading or pissing on one's hopeful/positive goals seems so ......................childish-JMO 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 ***/// 20OCT15 to be precise. gurugals 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eburt Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Well here we go again - Can we get back to the topic at hand? Just wish we have more clarity on the credit rating and how long this will take...days/months/years???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millionaire in training Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 From what I've heard and read it was supposed to take 4 months. They started the process in January 2015 so that would mean that the 4months are up. We are now hearing about it and are waiting to hear what score they will be getting. I believe they feel we will know any day now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eburt Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 From what I've heard and read it was supposed to take 4 months. They started the process in January 2015 so that would mean that the 4months are up. We are now hearing about it and are waiting to hear what score they will be getting. I believe they feel we will know any day now. Thanks MIT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 gurugals ***/// ...Hahahaha...! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedomwish Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 From what I've heard and read it was supposed to take 4 months. They started the process in January 2015 so that would mean that the 4months are up. We are now hearing about it and are waiting to hear what score they will be getting. I believe they feel we will know any day now. For the past three nights, I've been waking up with the thought of the date June 1st....June 1st....June 1st..... Here's to hoping that something happens on June 1st!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeetdog Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 If something doesn't ''Bust a move'' in the next couple of days...Buzzy's goin' to have a ''Happening''.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgabrielie1 Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 That's what I'm thinking!! This sounds like great news! What I'm thinking Woody is that they would try to attain all the Dollars they could accumulate as well as the Dinar. Use the Dollars and convert them to Dinar at the 1166 rate sucking up a huge amount of Dinar. Then revalue their currency to .86 and exchange it back to Dollars and make a killing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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