Oregon Liberals Show Their True Color

[divemaster5734]

Oregon is easily one of the most "liberal" states, with far left democrats the bulk of the government.

To demonstrate how communism works, they are able to lock up an individual when the needs of the many outweigh the rights of the one.

Here, even though a 60 year old guy never did anything wrong, they locked him up in jail for 2 1/2 years, with every sort of criminal they had, just to be sure they could coerce his testimony.

That is true "democracy" folks.

The mob can do whatever they want to do, as long as they can find a reason to justify it, and the entire basis of our bill of individual rights is tossed out.

It just doesn't matter what flavor you are, both sides only want to make the rules that control your life, and care nothing about you, except for the taxes you will pay to fund your oppression...DM

 

Man held for 2 years as witness in Oregon killing testifies against son, is freed

Published March 19, 2015

Associated Press

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HILLSBORO, Ore. –  A man who was jailed for 2½ years so he couldn't avoid taking the witness stand in his son's murder trial was freed Thursday after providing two hours of often-combative testimony.

Benito Vasquez-Hernandez committed no crime, but a judge ordered the 60-year-old Mexico native held because of fears he would flee rather testify against his son, who is accused of killing a suburban Portland woman in 2012.

Federal and state material witness laws allow for the detainment of anyone who might have information about a criminal investigation. Though the use of such laws is not uncommon, it is extremely rare for someone to be held as long as Vasquez-Hernandez was.

State law also requires compensation of $7.50 a day, so the father will receive about $6,000.

"I don't like to be in jail. I want to get out," Vasquez-Hernandez said shortly after taking the stand Thursday. He and his son, Eloy Vasquez-Santiago, both wore orange jail clothes.

Prosecutors allege the son killed Maria Bolanos-Rivera, a Hillsboro mother of six who disappeared in 2012.

Vasquez-Hernandez repeatedly told the jury he saw nothing, while a prosecutor reminded him of incriminating statements he made about his son three years ago.

"The witness is hostile; you may ask leading questions," Washington County Judge Don Letourneau told prosecutor Jeff Lesowski. "But don't argue."

Still, many of the exchanges made through an interpreter were testy.

Vazquez-Hernandez and his family moved to Madera, California, shortly after Bolanos-Rivera vanished. He said they left Oregon to pick strawberries and because an 11-year-old family member had to go to school.

Lesowski insisted it was to get away from the crime.

The prosecutor reminded Vasquez-Hernandez that he told detectives in 2012 that his son confessed, and that he saw blood on a van and on his son's clothes.

"You told police he threw a bloody knife in the trash," Lesowski said.

"No, that's a lie," the father replied.

"Sir, your voice is on a tape recorder," the prosecutor said. "Does that help you remember?"

Lesowski softened toward the end of Vasquez-Hernandez's testimony, telling the father he knows that testifying in his son's murder trial is probably the hardest thing he's had to do.

"You don't want to tell this jury because you know what's going to happen if you do," Lesowski said.

The son's attorneys point out that a body has ever been found, and say Vasquez-Santiago's confession to police was made under duress.

Defense attorney Tim Bowman elicited testimony that the father cannot read or write. Vasquez-Hernandez said he feels confused when more educated people speak and that he's scared of police.

After testifying, the father returned to jail, where he was processed and released. His lawyer, Alan Biederman, said Vasquez-Hernandez plans to rejoin his family in California.

Another one of his sons also was held as a witness in the case. That son was jailed for more than a year and a half before agreeing to provide a video deposition.

The father declined to provide a video deposition. He also did not have the $50,000 he would need to post bail.

 

[vietnam1969]

This is/was not right -------- period!!!!!!!!!

[10 YEARS LATER]

Libs cherry pick what [LAWS] they decide to obey or not to obey . . . or simply refuse to abide by anything and invoke tyranny as a way to make their point.

 

The time will come when all these horrible "little people" will get their comeuppance.

[skeetdog]

Thanks divemaster...It's everyday organized crime...Our tax dollars paid just under two hundred dollars a day to the facility that he was imprisoned...Except for the ''Oath Keepers''....most the good cops are gone...I still respect the badge...but the brain dead law dawgs they pin it on is pathetic...The integrity of any law is in how it's interrupted...Why have so many LEO's on the payroll...when armed community watch would be cheaper and more fun...I mean safer...All the laws that have been put on the books to try and control every aspect of our lives have done nothing but congest the judicial system...Make laws where the LEO's over see the communications over a wide area of watchers...Watchers must always work in pairs and keep visual on any violation while communicating to the responding LEO of the reported violations...Use some of the HLS arsenal to train watches in urban hostility...    

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

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Hostile witness against his own son... illegal alien....  yes, they held him so he wouldn't 'disappear' before testifying.

 

 

He was clearly a flight risk -- as witnessed by his own actions of illegally crossing borders.

 

 

Would YOU like to be the one to tell that woman's 6 children they couldn't put her killer away because illegals get to

 

skirt our laws by thumbing their nose at our Justice System and go where/when they please...?

 

 

GRANTED:  there was a complete lack of "Speedy Trial' here.... that IS on The State of Oregon -- and SHAME ON THEM.

 

 

But they could not have let this guy loose with an ankle monitor, nor place him in some witness protection program,

 

because he would have bolted.

[George Hayduke]

Totally agree with you Sarge except for one point.

 

Benito, not the Judge nor the court, was responsible for his incarceration and lack of timely trial.  He could have walked out of jail anyday he wanted by simply testifying to a capital crime.  He chose not to do so for 2 1/2 years... it's all on him.  

[SgtFuryUSCZ]

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Good point, GH.... 

[divemaster5734]

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Hostile witness against his own son... illegal alien....  yes, they held him so he wouldn't 'disappear' before testifying.

 

 

He was clearly a flight risk -- as witnessed by his own actions of illegally crossing borders.

 

 

Would YOU like to be the one to tell that woman's 6 children they couldn't put her killer away because illegals get to

 

skirt our laws by thumbing their nose at our Justice System and go where/when they please...?

 

 

GRANTED:  there was a complete lack of "Speedy Trial' here.... that IS on The State of Oregon -- and SHAME ON THEM.

 

 

But they could not have let this guy loose with an ankle monitor, nor place him in some witness protection program,

 

because he would have bolted.

 

 

Totally agree with you Sarge except for one point.

 

Benito, not the Judge nor the court, was responsible for his incarceration and lack of timely trial.  He could have walked out of jail anyday he wanted by simply testifying to a capital crime.  He chose not to do so for 2 1/2 years... it's all on him.  

 

Gave you both pluses, really wanted to open the conversation to this.

 

First, I personally have no love for either dad or son. They both seem like a couple jerks.

The dad had to talk through an interpreter, so even though he has had the last 2+ years to learn our language, he hasn't bothered.

 

I am personally so freaking sick and tired of the hostile immigrants I could scream.

Especially when compared to the ones that have spent years planning, saving, learned our language, are educated, and have a position that enhances our lives. 

 

I would even submit there should have been a legality check, and possible deportation.

 

All that said, and I would fully agree these are very undesirable characters, we are either a nation of laws to protect the individual or we are not.

 

Understood,  he was a flight risk.

 

But there's still something wrong with keeping even an azzhole that has not been charged with any crime locked up for 2 1/2 years.

And the $7.50 a day, he could have made that in an hour begging at any street corner.

 

Honestly, our whole legal system is broken.

Every law in America isn't actually a law, it's a statue, since 1936.

I don't believe in Admiralty anyway, not for law of the land.

So, if we did actually use  Common Law,  crime would drop after the first few thieves we hung for burglary. 

Almost every crime against another human is punishable by death.

They didn't just hang horse thieves.

 

 

 

[George Hayduke]

Thanks DM for the +.

 

Without getting into which law is more accurately the law my take on the matter goes something like this:

 

His son was accused of committing a Capital Crime, some would call it homicide and others would call it murder with statutes defining the act.

 

Bottom line is there was enough evidence to bring charges that a human life was taken and that most likely the person who took that life was Benito's son.  This was no ordinary beer run at the local stop & rob.

 

And legality aside regarding their immigration status, the father had a moral responsibility for all of humanity to divulge what information he had regardless if the results would incriminate his beloved son.  To not do so, not only borders on culpability but, his lack of respect for the moral hierarchy that civilization holds that human life is sacred above all, reveals to me his moral bankruptcy.  IMO, such a man is more a danger than is an inefficient and bloated justice system.  At least, we as a people can influence and attempt change with the system.  A corrupt man will only continue to defile that is which is good and right...

 

...of course that corrupt man can change but, not by you or me...