wilrocksvegas Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Sunnis may exit Iraq parliament after sheik’s slaying - The Washington Posthttp://www.washingtonpost.com/world/sunni-parties-consider-leaving-iraqi-parliament-after-slaying-of-sheik/2015/02/14/7e164a8c-b463-11e4-bf39-5560f3918d4b_story.html By Loveday Morris and Mustafa Salim February 14 at 1:59 PM Follow @LovedayM BAGHDAD — The brazen kidnapping and slaying of a Sunni sheikh and eight members of his entourage in the Iraqi capital was met with outrage by Sunni politicians on Saturday, deepening sectarian distrust and threatening to tear apart the country’s fragile government. Sunni politicians said that they would boycott parliament after the killing of Sheikh Qasim al-Janabi, a moderate Sunni tribal leader, his son and the other members of their convoy, blaming the Friday night assault on Shiite militias that they say the government has allowed to act with impunity. Discussions continued into the night as to whether Sunni parties should pull out of the government altogether. Such a move would strike a blow to the inclusive Iraqi government that Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi created under pressure from the United States, which had tied his efforts to reach out to Sunnis to military assistance. While both Iraqi and U.S. officials say that bringing in Iraq’s Sunnis and assisting them in turning against the Islamic State is an essential part of defeating the group, Sunni politicians say they’ve heard promises but seen little action. “The bullet that shot Sheikh Qasim also shot at the heart of national reconciliation,” said Sunni parliamentarian Raad al-Dahlaki. “The government has nice words but doesn’t execute its promises. It’s too weak to control the militias.” Mourners carry a coffin during the funeral of prominent Iraqi Sunni tribal leader Sheikh Qasim al-Janabi and his son, Mohammad, who were killed in an attack on their convoy, in Baghdad Saturday. (Stringer/Reuters) Iraq’s Shiite militias have flourished since the Islamic State’s advance across the country last summer — as the government was forced to rely on them for security as Iraqi army divisions disintegrated. Although many credit the Iranian-backed paramilitaries with saving the capital from falling, with their growth in strength have come accusations of mass killings and forced displacement of Sunnis. While not the most grievous of such acts leveled at the country’s Shiite militias, the fact that the Janabi slaying occurred in central Baghdad drew particular ire. Janabi and his group were pulled over at a fake checkpoint in the city’s southwest. Their bodies — hands bound and shot execution style — were later found dumped in a largely Shiite neighborhood in the city’s northeast. Janabi’s nephew, a member of parliament, was kidnapped with him but was released after being severely beaten. The perpetrators wore Iraqi security forces uniforms, he told the local news media. “This happened in the center of Baghdad, not the desert,” Iraq’s Sunni deputy prime minister, Saleh al-Mutlak, told Sharqia television from the shiekh’s funeral. “They must have had to driven them through 50 checkpoints. Where are the security services? Where is the government? We are at the mercy of these gangs.” A close friend of the slain tribal leader, Mutlak said Janabi had been a voice of moderation. His son, Mohammed al-Janabi, had just returned to the country after studying law at Glasgow University in Scotland. “This is it,” Mutlak said. “We can’t stay in this miserable political process any longer. We can’t stay in a government while our sons are being slaughtered.” Hakim al-Zamili, the head of the parliament’s defense and security committee, promised the incident would be investigated. But many Sunnis are skeptical. Zamili is a militia leader accused of running death squads during the sectarian war. The interior minister is a member of the Badr Brigades, another Shiite militia. While Shiite militias are well-armed and funded, Sunni tribes who have been fighting the Islamic State complain they are getting little support, stoking distrust further. “This just helps Islamic State portray itself as the one who is looking after Sunnis,” said Dhafer al-Ani, a spokesman for the Sunni Mutahidoon party. He gave the example of al-Baghdadi, which fell to the militants this weekthreatening the nearby air base where more than 300 U.S. Marines are based. Sunni fighters there fought with little support for months before finally relenting, he said. “They get nothing, but the Shiite militias get support from Iran and the government,” he said. “This all makes the level of trust very weak.” Edited February 15, 2015 by Markinsa Changed Title | Added Contents of link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Can't wait to find out who did this and dumped them in a shitte neighborhood so the rest of the sunnis blame the shittes and pull out and join isis A moderate ? Then they start blaming the rule of law , and a fist fight breaks out The plan seems to be working just as isis planned I'm telling ya this is a mess and " soon " you will all know what maliki was going thru Saddam loyalists were waiting ever since they signed the strategic framework agreement for the troops to be pulled out Everyone was so happy especially the sunnis and shittes , the kurds not so much The Sunnis were investing in arms with their share of the budget , when they should of been building a private sector But it seems ya can't force the provinces to do anything 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siberian_shaddow Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 This sounds like it's got Maliki's name all over it, he will do anything to bring down Albadi's new government and try to save himself or try to get the PM position back no matter how many people die. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Kurds did the same thing build up their military The shittes just kept pluging away at the oil exports and depended on the iraqi military to build itself This sounds like it's got Maliki's name all over it, he will do anything to bring down Albadi's new government and try to save himself or try to get the PM position back no matter how many people die.It doesn't sound like that to me at all It sounds like isis and saddam loyalists They want the Sunnis on their side If that sunni moderate even hinted any sort of deal with baghdad it would be my opinion that isis would take him out Fake road block then dump them in a shittes neighborhood Maliki would of buried them in the desert , he's not as stupid as people " TRY" to make him look To me it's obvious So who are the hardliner sunnis in parliment ? If maliki was going to kill one of them , why a moderate? Why not some hardliner sunni who was a threat I could be wrong , I guess we will have to wait and see , but do they got the names of the isis terrorists so they can ask them some questions ? Seems like the perfect people to commit such a crime Just blame maliki like obama blames bush 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captl1 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 There is nothing set in stone as to the Sunnis pulling out and this article is also written by the Washington post. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I hope they don't because it could lead to civil war and that is something the usa would necessarily need to stay out of I think they would just stick with the kurds and keep both sides out of northern iraq 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Driving thru 50 check points ? This is disturbing But who would know their way around the check points , either or ? If the terrorists do know their way around the major check points and can travel throught baghdad there a huge issue , but it does make ya think I'm really liking where I live 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) It doesn't sound like that to me at all Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/197125-sunnis-may-exit-iraq-parliament-after-sheik’s-slaying/#ixzz3Rltw5d6d Of course not. Maliki would have dumped them in the desert? Care to explain to us little people how that would break up the gov.? This was done as a clear attempt to cause the Abadi gov to break apart. And the concept that Saddam loyalist or ISIS members roam freely within the Green Zone is absolutely ludicrous. The perpetrators of this knew how to get around several other checkpoints. That is something your hero Maliki would know how to do. And let us not forget that Maliki is a Shite who was in cahoots with Iran also. And anyone with a modicum of common sense knows full well that Iran is the single biggest problem the Middle East has. Edited February 15, 2015 by ladyGrace'sDaddy 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I think the article explains it just fine Start with the article title and then read the article We Abadi is working just fine with the Iranians If iraq and Iran don't get along uh can forget the port its right on the border of iraq and iran could blow it out if the water from within its own border Without the port you can forget about iraq building a market economy So yep it's important iraq and Iran get along Thank god they came when they did to defend iraq as well as Russia "People" do things May can't blame everything on government I know the article isn't from iraq we know how reliable their media is But this statement from the article is revealing something Discussions continued into the night as to whether Sunni parties should pull out of the government altogether 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcfrag Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 This sounds like it's got Maliki's name all over it, he will do anything to bring down Albadi's new government and try to save himself or try to get the PM position back no matter how many people die. I agree. Maliki is the only one that would truly be delighted in destroying everything that has been accomplished so far. Sunnis and shites were doing just fine up until the Shite was killed... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin NutnYahoo Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Sectarian uprising is feared in Iraq after double assassination. How's that for stability for an RV. Edited February 15, 2015 by Markinsa Merged Topics 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I agree. Maliki is the only one that would truly be delighted in destroying everything that has been accomplished so far. Sunnis and shites were doing just fine up until the Shite was killed... Somehow I don't think this is going to have the desired effect of the perpetrators. Abadi has worked miracles in putting together what he's got. And if he stays true to form then I suspect we will see a very aggressive move on Maliki and those attacking the Sunni's. I mean at some point someone is going to have to do something and it seems that man is Abadi. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captl1 Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Abadi is a true statesman and cares for his country. Those who did this will pay! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yes this is an example of one of the all inclusive miricles by abadi From the article above He gave the example of al-Baghdadi, which fell to the militants this weekthreatening the nearby air base where more than 300 U.S. Marines are based. Sunni fighters there fought with little support for months before finally relenting, he said. “They get nothing, but the Shiite militias get support from Iran and the government,” he said. “This all makes the level of trust very weak.” Maliki is the only one that woukd benefit , what a joke , or lie Isis loves the iraqi govt fighting and doesn't want an all inclusive govt They want them split and to say otherwise is either ignorance or lies 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinadawg Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 There is zero doubt in a logical thinking persons mind that Maliki did this...............sometimes i think DL is Maliki. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artitech Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 where did you here this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 There is zero doubt in a logical thinking persons mind that Maliki did this...............sometimes i think DL is Maliki. See now that falls under the ignorance part of my claim of ignorance or lie But it could fall under lie since you don't have any idea of who is a logical thinking person You have given yourself that reputation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Maliki is the only one that woukd benefit , what a joke , or lieRead more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/197125-sunnis-may-exit-iraq-parliament-after-sheik’s-slaying/#ixzz3RmC1mtrM Calling members names is against the rules, And you still haven't answered my question, Of course not. Maliki would have dumped them in the desert? Care to explain to us little people how that would break up the gov.? Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/197125-sunnis-may-exit-iraq-parliament-after-sheik’s-slaying/#ixzz3RmD8Y5kp Or is it simply that for once you don't have an answer to everything? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 Sectarian uprising is feared in Iraq after double assassination. How's that for stability for an RV. Not good except for the gurus with their blinders on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 There is zero doubt in a logical thinking persons mind that Maliki did this...............sometimes i think DL is Maliki. Well I for one give you my vote. Your logic is fine by me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I just hid several posts. Let's get back on topic and stop making it about me, you or us. Thanks! - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I just hid several posts. Let's get back on topic and stop making it about me, you or us. Thanks! - Sorry about that but seriously Thanks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityeXchange Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) i think we have to remember not to take sides in this thing and definitely not get emotionally tied into the politics of the day. after all is said and done we are all associated with this site and studying iraq for one purpose and one purpose only which is most certainly not for humanitarian reasons. not to be cold, but my energy is directed toward reading the news and filtering it for data that will either convince me to maintain my position or get off this train. we study these articles to manage the risks of our investment. attacking one another and all of the other foolishness really says one thing, some of us need to develop a life outside of DV. too much idle time. Edited February 15, 2015 by TrinityeXchange 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I SAY ITS GOT Maliki Name all over it.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 15, 2015 Report Share Posted February 15, 2015 I didn't read anywhere about this being done in the green zone But it was in baghdad We know isis gets into baghdad when it wants Isis targets Baghdad with wave of car bombs and mortar attacks killing 150 Storys have been coming out about isis targeting baghdad The sadr malitias are ethnic clensing in sunni territories I don't think maliki is running any sadr malitias The kurds are claiming sunni territories in the north west I don't think maliki is running the kurds Maliki isn't doing much of anything any more He's just hangin out taking the blame like bush for anything that goes wrong when he has no control over the situation It's all in abadis hands now Either abadli is going to arm the sunnis or he isn't The article states the sunnis trust level is very low for this govt and debated pulling out of the govt all together We will see where this Leeds Direct from the article Iraqi capital was met with outrage by Sunni politicians on Saturday, deepening sectarian distrust and threatening to tear apart the country’s fragile government. Discussions continued into the night as to whether Sunni parties should pull out of the government altogether. “The government has nice words but doesn’t execute its promises. It’s too weak to control the militias.” While Shiite militias are well-armed and funded, Sunni tribes who have been fighting the Islamic State complain they are getting little support, stoking distrust further “They get nothing, but the Shiite militias get support from Iran and the government,” he said. “This all makes the level of trust very weak.” So reading this , the all inclusive govt isn't getting anything implemented Now maliki isn't running anything so if they aren't getting support you know who to blame 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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