Deb45 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Sort of disappointed. Thought we would have heard more from what was accomplished in the meeting on the 10th. They got the budget signed and from what I understand it now has to be posted in gazette. Ok.....now what are we waiting on? What's next? When is the next meeting and what is suppose to be addressed? I feel like I'm hanging over a cliff on a very thin rope. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrappyone Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 We all know that feeling. Parliment comes back the 12th I believe, then we should be getting more news on laws and other things that need to be voted on. All we can do is wait, pary and hope for the best. most of us needed or could have used this years ago, but here we are. Just don't lose hope and hang in there. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinMan Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 The budget has nothing to do with the RV. NEVER HAS. People tie these things together EVERY YEAR and there's no RV after the budget is finalized. I don't think we'll know the fate of the budget til AT LEAST the end of NEXT WEEK!! Just watch..... they're gonna drag this out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGlobe7 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 IMO this year is different. While I agree with Reinman...the budget is not a guarantee that the RV is happening now...never has been. This year is different because this is Abadi's first Budget and there is talk of HCL passing and an implementation date for the HCL. I think Abadi is making a ton of progress TON and it is out in the open..we are seeing the results of his work. I do not win friends when I say I still think that it is still gonna be a while. Maliki has mess things up bad..and not to mention stole a crap ton of currency. I think we are making progress, but to compare the time that Maliki took to drive Iraq backwards...I applaud Abadi. He has a ton of work to do..not just with the banking and the entire country. (cat jumps off the soapbox) 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artitech Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 If Iraq doesn't RV next month, we go to 2016. IMHO. I also believe the budget has nothing to do with the RV! Remember everybody said there was going to be the R V after they got out of chapter 7! No R V! same thing here. Every guru on the planet is saying, once budget passed, an R V was coming. I sure hope so but I'm not holding my breath. Adam has said all along the H C L must be passed first. It still has not be passed as far as I know of. Adam says this budget has nothing to do with H C L! No H C L no RV! There is no telling when these Iraq fools will do this. I know this is not what everybody wants to hear, me included! I sure hope I'm wrong! No intel, three letter agencies, nothing, just my gut feeling is, we will be here this time next year wondering what went wrong! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJC Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Will see how Adam updates this tomorrow on his Chat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose 57 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Will see how Adam updates this tomorrow on his Chat It depends if it was asked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJinMontreal Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 IMO this year is different. While I agree with Reinman...the budget is not a guarantee that the RV is happening now...never has been. This year is different because this is Abadi's first Budget and there is talk of HCL passing and an implementation date for the HCL. I think Abadi is making a ton of progress TON and it is out in the open..we are seeing the results of his work. I do not win friends when I say I still think that it is still gonna be a while. Maliki has mess things up bad..and not to mention stole a crap ton of currency. I think we are making progress, but to compare the time that Maliki took to drive Iraq backwards...I applaud Abadi. He has a ton of work to do..not just with the banking and the entire country. (cat jumps off the soapbox) Hope You're okay there Snow... Next time try taking a step first ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisHands Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Know how you feel Deb. I was really hoping they would address the HCA in today's meeting. Abadi was firm on saying it needed to get taken care of last week in some articles. Been in this a long time, and just wish they would get it done and over with. Hoping and praying Thursday brings some HCL talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJinMontreal Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 ... (cat jumps off the soapbox) I'm sorry ... these were too funny to pass up !! Almost ... Great extension Snow ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TQueezy Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 There isn't one specific singular thing that the "supposed RV" hinges on; and I say supposed because no one can prove without a shadow of a doubt that Iraq is going to revalue their currency in the way we all want them to (overnight 100,000% instant appreciation in relation to the US dollar). We just have to keep waiting, and speculating. It's all we can do. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saradise Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 There isn't one specific singular thing that the "supposed RV" hinges on; and I say supposed because no one can prove without a shadow of a doubt that Iraq is going to revalue their currency in the way we all want them to (overnight 100,000% instant appreciation in relation to the US dollar). We just have to keep waiting, and speculating. It's all we can do. True, but I guess sometimes we just need that little bit of hope to keep hanging on without going insane. Back when we were waiting on them to get out of chapter 7, that was our goal that gave us hope. Now, the HCL is the goal we are working towards. Even though the RV may not follow the HCL getting passed...it gives us a goal. This has been such a long ride for so many of us and we tend to cling to every little bit of good news in order to keep us hopeful in this investment. (Hope that makes sense) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJC Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 True, but I guess sometimes we just need that little bit of hope to keep hanging on without going insane. Back when we were waiting on them to get out of chapter 7, that was our goal that gave us hope. Now, the HCL is the goal we are working towards. Even though the RV may not follow the HCL getting passed...it gives us a goal. This has been such a long ride for so many of us and we tend to cling to every little bit of good news in order to keep us hopeful in this investment. (Hope that makes sense) Been a 10 year ride and counting !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 I agree a making a budget doesn't have to mean they will rv But reading about zimbabwe when they restructured their new currency it was released with the budget They deleted like 12 zeros and released a new currency that had a new exchange rate with the budget Iraq had talked about deleting three zeros and shabbs argued that deleting zeros should be done at the beginning of the year And the mof said in 2013 that they coukdnt delete three zeros in the middle of the year because the " budget " was already in current dinars So I remember waiting till 2014 because I figuredthis has to be it , in the budget this year 2014 we will see something But iraq never passed a budget in 2014 So now it's time for the 2015 budget , which I know budgets are not there to change the currency , but it could change with the budget It's happened in the past Ok any way I'm curious as anyone to see the new budget It won't take but a few seconds to know if any changes were made before it was signed Who knows maybe it's an " executive " decision and no one knows about it except a few people Still like I said I'm curious But for the most part budgets are not known for anything but allocating funds Will it be or won't it be the end of this ride I have no idea and it's supposed to be that way if they are up to some kind of revaluation If they pull it off , they are a lot smarter than I gave them credit for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockymtnhi Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 They simply don't have trillions of dollars to rv with. Until they magically do don't hold your breath. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Quote If Iraq doesn't RV next month, we go to 2016 End Quote So we go to 2016 then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v-star 650 Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 mmmmmmm that budget thingy ! we need too look out side of the box , when talking about the budget , { first time I really see ,don`t lop , on the topic that I can hold on too , with a little ray of hope that is ! } we need to kind of stop thinking in the , now , and 21 st century technology , when it comes to this kind of decision , { j ,m,o, } but , lets look at who is making the call , on currency values .... I think central bank has the power to make the values change , but I do think they must talk too someone else before they do it ...... now the budget comes in , they passed the budget , say 25.oo budget just to make it easy , they plan to spend 15.oo of it on Iraqi stuff , with a cushion of 10 .oo for unexpected things to come up ...... now if they increase the value of dinar up too 1 to 1 values ,,,, that whole 25.oo budget they just approved has now been crippled by the need too cover the new money , remember the budget has in it , payment plans for retired folks, and dead folks , and for the children of dead folks , pensions I guess ...... now if they went from 1165 dinar too 1 dollar value dinar , the budget and the whole economic picture just went down in a big way { sunk the whole reserves and central bank } ............ now when dr. shabbibbi , mentioned first of the year on currency revalues , I think he might mean , ---- 1 st quarter time lines , which is 3 or 4 months from January 1st ....... but will take sides with airitech , if we haven`t seen it by middle of this year , july-ish , then lets say ---------- 2017 for an extended time line for them too gain control of those nay-sayers in the currency committees who think , not the right time too take zero`s off thanks katy 45 good topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivasmom Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 IMO this year is different. While I agree with Reinman...the budget is not a guarantee that the RV is happening now...never has been. This year is different because this is Abadi's first Budget and there is talk of HCL passing and an implementation date for the HCL. I think Abadi is making a ton of progress TON and it is out in the open..we are seeing the results of his work. I do not win friends when I say I still think that it is still gonna be a while. Maliki has mess things up bad..and not to mention stole a crap ton of currency. I think we are making progress, but to compare the time that Maliki took to drive Iraq backwards...I applaud Abadi. He has a ton of work to do..not just with the banking and the entire country. (cat jumps off the soapbox) SnowGlobe7, so sorry I didn't mean to neg you. Just scrolling and hit it. So sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drj Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Quote If Iraq doesn't RV next month, we go to 2016 End Quote I hate to say it but it certainly looks that way. I am hoping that there is a change, .10, 1.00, heck, even 3.00, by the end of March! Get the HCL implemented and RV! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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