New Vietnam Award to all Veterans

[vietnam1969]

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Sorry it didn't post right but it is an Award for all veterans who served in the Vietnam war. It is the VCOG or Vietnam Cross of Gallantry. Will try to post another article about it. 

Edited December 31, 2014 by vietnam1969

[Maggie123]

That Is WONDERFUL Vietnam1969... ABOUT TIME!!!

 

BTW...The link wouldn't open...wish I was more savvy so I could help ya...would love to see it.

[vietnam1969]

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The Vietnam Cross of Gallantry
Information provided by Gary Smith
If you are authorized the Vietnam Service medal you are authorized the VCOG (or VGC) medal and/or ribbon.
(Important website links at the bottom of this report).
Because both myth and deliberate misinterpretation of the Vietnam Cross of Gallantry [VCOG] or Vietnam
Gallantry Cross [VGC] has permeated the Vietnam veteran community for almost thirty years -- and because
the (South) Vietnam Govt is no longer around to set the record straight -- many people are operating under
incorrect information.
In 1974 the VCOG (or VGC) unit and individual citation was awarded by former President Nguyen Van Thieu
and the Vietnam Congress to all Americans (and other non-Vietnamese nationalities) as an individual award
with respect and in gratitude for sacrificial and valorous service trying to protect and preserve the Republic of
South Vietnam from communist aggression.

 

 

 

 

 

[Maggie123]

Still no go... Maybe you could tell us a little more about it until one of our members can help you out?

 

Those things can be tricky.

[vietnam1969]

tried to post a picture but to much private info came up so had to delete it.

Still no go... Maybe you could tell us a little more about it until one of our members can help you out?

 

Those things can be tricky.

 lol Evidently I don't know how to do this either 

Edited December 31, 2014 by vietnam1969

[Maggie123]

Thank You Vietnam...not sure I understand the part about the myth though...

could you please explain that a little more? I'd like to understand it better.

[nannab]

 Sadly long over due. Great news though. 

[vietnam1969]

Hope this works

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallantry_Cross_(Vietnam)

Thank You Vietnam...not sure I understand the part about the myth though...

could you please explain that a little more? I'd like to understand it better.

Check out the link above. 

Edited January 1, 2015 by vietnam1969

[waterman13]

 

wM13

[moose 57]

Hope this works

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallantry_Cross_(Vietnam)

Check out the link above. 

http://www.americanwarlibrary.com/thecross.htm

 

here is another

Edited January 1, 2015 by moose 57

[Maggie123]

Ok I'm still trying to understand here...does this mean the US is issuing a new award to Vietnam Vet's?

 

 

 

 

Thank You Moose...

 

 

Common Myths About The Vietnam Cross of Gallantry
(This Information Site is Continually Updated. )
Click here for the official Gallantry Cross Issue Regulations

1. Only the VCOG (gold-color framed ribbon) is authorized to all military persons of all Nations who served in Vietnam.

   Not true. The VCOG with Palm Device award consists of four variations: 1) the full-size medal. 2) a miniature version of the full-size medal. 3) the unit (gold-color framed) ribbon (or "colorbar"). And 4) the individual frameless ribbon (colorbar). All four variations are authorized to ALL military persons of any Nation who served under Military Assistance Command, Vietnam.

   Additional Note for American recipients: The United States in the only nation that does not produce a full-size medal associated with its (ribbon-only) unit awards. This fact confuses some American Vietnam vets who mistakenly believe or advocate that Americans can only wear/possess/display the VCOG unit ribbon. However, rather than continue to mistakenly believe or erroneously advocate that the VCOG is restricted to the framed unit ribbon, American veterans should lobby their Congress to create/institute full-size medals associated with American unit awards so that the United States military medal array catches up to the rest of the world. (See: Operation RetroActive Recognition.)

2. Civilians who served in CIA, DOD and the State Department are also authorized the VCOG under the 1974 Vietnamese edict recorded by MACV General Order (GO) #8.

   Not true. The VCOG was authorized to non-military personnel only on an individual basis resulting from their individual actions when performing a military type function or activity.

3. The bronze and silver star devices on the VCOG are authorized to recipients of the Bronze Star Medal and the Silver Star Medal.

   Not true. The four VCOG medal devices are: Palm Leaf, Bronze Star, Silver Star and Gold Star. When awarded/authorized on an individual basis the Gold device applies to individuals assigned to a Corps Level unit. The Bronze Star device applies to an individual assigned to a Brigade or Regiment Level unit. The Silver Star device applies to an individual assigned to a Division Level unit. And the Palm Device applies to individuals assigned to an Army Level or higher unit.

4. The VCOG is the equivalent to the French Croix de Guerre.

   True.

5. The government is required to issue the VCOG to authorized recipients or a single member of their family if the authorized recipient is deceased.

   Not true. The U.S. government does not issue foreign medals. To obtain the VCOG you must either purchase it or request the new government in Hanoi send it to you for free (don't hold your breath waiting for it to arrive). If you insist upon obtaining the VCOG for free, do the following:

   • a. Build a Time Machine
   • b. Use your Time Machine to transport you back to Saigon in the year 1974
   • c. Beg, borrow or steal a VCOG
   • d. Use your Time Machine to transport you back to the present day

AH HA!!! I Think I GOT it by George!!!

 

 

Additional Note for American recipients: The United States in the only nation that does not produce a full-size medal associated with its (ribbon-only) unit awards. This fact confuses some American Vietnam vets who mistakenly believe or advocate that Americans can only wear/possess/display the VCOG unit ribbon. However, rather than continue to mistakenly believe or erroneously advocate that the VCOG is restricted to the framed unit ribbon, American veterans should lobby their Congress to create/institute full-size medals associated with American unit awards so that the United States military medal array catches up to the rest of the world. (See: Operation RetroActive Recognition.)

 

 

Is This What Happened?

 

If So *****Congrats!!!***** And Happy New Years!!!

Edited January 1, 2015 by Maggie123

[securityguy]

In a nut shell, The US Govt. does not issue awards granted or awarded by forign countries. You will not be issued one by our Govt. If you were awarded the Vietnam Service Medal you are ellegiable to wear the VCOG. You will have to purchase one from a civilian vendor.

Edited January 1, 2015 by securityguy

[sxsess]

file:///C:/Users/Kenneth/Desktop/10888540

 

Sorry it didn't post right but it is an Award for all veterans who served in the Vietnam war. It is the VCOG or Vietnam Cross of Gallantry. Will try to post another article about it. 

Now all we need to do is throw all those despicable protesters i.e. liberal cowards like Jane Fonda in prison or out of the country!

[gymrat76541]

The Vietnam Cross of Gallantry - just in time for the one's who served to start collecting Social Security.
 

[EagleEye]

Surely hope I can figure how to get this one...Thanks VN69

[Bumper64]

Awesome thread!!  Much respect to all that served!!  Luv Ya ALL and THANKS so much!!!

[Bumper64]

[vietnam1969]

Brady in 1989

Born October 1, 1936 (age 78)

Philip, South Dakota Allegiance  United States of America Service/branch  United States Army Years of service 1959 - 1993 Rank  Major General Unit 57th Medical Detachment

54th Medical Detachment Awards Medal of Honor

Distinguished Service Cross

Distinguished Service Medal (2)

Defense Superior Service Medal

Legion of Merit

Distinguished Flying Cross (6)

Bronze Star with "V" Device (2)

Purple Heart

Meritorious Service Medal (3)

Air Medal (52) with "V" Device

Army Commendation Medal (2) Spouse(s) Nancy Brady     

Don J. Jenkins

Jenkins in 2010

Born April 18, 1948 (age 66)

Quality, Kentucky Allegiance United States of America Service/branch United States Army Rank Staff Sergeant Unit 39th Infantry Regiment, 9th Infantry Division Battles/wars Vietnam War Awards Medal of Honor   

Franklin D. Miller  

Staff Sergeant Franklin Miller

Born January 27, 1945

Elizabeth City, North Carolina Died June 30, 2000 (aged 55) Place of cremation his ashes were scattered in New Mexico Allegiance United States of America Service/branch United States Army Years of service 1966 - 1992 Rank Command Sergeant Major Unit 5th Special Forces Group Battles/wars Vietnam War Awards Medal of Honor  

Danny John Petersen

Army Medal of Honor

Born March 11, 1949

Horton, Kansas Died January 9, 1970 (aged 20)

Tay Ninh Province, Republic of Vietnam Place of burial Netawaka Cemetery, Netawaka, Kansas Allegiance United States of America Service/branch United States Army Years of service 1968 - 1970 Rank Specialist Four Unit 23rd Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division Battles/wars Vietnam War Awards Medal of Honor

Bronze Star

Commendation Medal with oak leaf cluster

Purple Heart    

[vietnam1969]

Gary George Wetzel

Gary Wetzel in 1984

Born September 29, 1947 (age 67)

South Milwaukee, Wisconsin Allegiance  United States of America Service/branch  United States Army Years of service 1965–1968 Rank  Specialist Four Unit 173rd Assault Helicopter Company, 11th Combat Aviation Battalion Battles/wars Vietnam War Awards Medal of Honor   

Jerry Wayne Wickam  

Corporal Jerry Wickam

Born January 19, 1942

Rockford, Illinois Died January 6, 1968 (aged 25)

near Loc Ninh, Republic of Vietnam Place of burial Lightsville Cemetery, Leaf River, Illinois Allegiance United States of America Service/branch United States Army Years of service 1966 - 1968 Rank Corporal Unit 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment Battles/wars Vietnam War Awards Medal of Honor

Purple Heart   

[Heavyduty053]

I served during the Vietnam years but not on the Battle fields....i was in support groups does this count

[vietnam1969]

I served during the Vietnam years but not on the Battle fields....i was in support groups does this count

If this doesn't answer your question HD053 just google it or look above at the posts and click on one of the links.

 

 

1. If the VCOG is not on your DD-214 you cannot own/wear/display the medal. And you should request a DD-215 listing the VCOG if it is not on your DD-214.

    

   Not true. Like the National Defense Medal, the Appreciation of Service Certificate and the Cold War Medal, the VCOG is an 'automatic' award that is fully authorized to ALL veterans who served in Vietnam. If the VCOG is not listed on your DD-214 (because you discharged prior to 1974 or the clerk who typed your DD-214 after 1974 was an airhead) it is not necessary to request a DD-215 as long as your DD-214 displays Vietnam Service. You are 'automatically' fully authorized.

[vietnam1969]

Heavyduty053 ------ If you were in Vietnam serving,  You would be entitled. This covers those who served in country---not outside if I read it right.

[vietnam1969]

Now all we need to do is throw all those despicable protesters i.e. liberal cowards like Jane Fonda in prison or out of the country!

IMO ---- Just putting her or others like her out of country would NOT be good enough for all the harm they have already caused our troops. Her actions in North Vietnam should have got a treason sentence for her.

The Vietnam Cross of Gallantry - just in time for the one's who served to start collecting Social Security.

 

You are so right  there. 

Surely hope I can figure how to get this one...Thanks VN69

YW EE.    Just google it and there will be links for purchasing this.

[battlepirate]

Now all we need to do is throw all those despicable protesters i.e. liberal cowards like Jane Fonda in prison or out of the country!

 

doing that would put we the USA at the same level as Venezuela and Cuba.

 

As despicable as what Jane Fonda did, it was her 1st amendment right. We don't have to like or endorse the message, but we have to respect her 1st Amendment.

 

We should never stoop to the level of the dictatorial countries like Venezuela, Cuba or North korea thay throws people in jail for protesting.

[vietnam1969]

doing that would put we the USA at the same level as Venezuela and Cuba.

 

As despicable as what Jane Fonda did, it was her 1st amendment right. We don't have to like or endorse the message, but we have to respect her 1st Amendment.

 

We should never stoop to the level of the dictatorial countries like Venezuela, Cuba or North korea thay throws people in jail for protesting.

 HELLO >>>>>     AND WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SINCE O WAS SWORN IN?   His squad of secret service guards will put you in the slammer as fast as you can say RV if you do ANY protesting anywhere close to him when he is making a speech.  Where are their rights if our own President is having this done?. His actions show more like being a socialist leader rather than the President of a free country.  And btw, Jane Fonda and the rest like her can kiss my ass!!!       

Edited February 5, 2015 by vietnam1969