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Bush didn't make Iraq a SOVEREIGN NATION...Its the First Sentence: in the Iraq Constitution.....Lets Get it Right.....

Darn it...I said I wouldn't respond but then you have to go and say that. The truth...

 

 
U.S. transfers sovereignty to Iraq 2 days early Ministers sworn in; Bremer leaves country after surprise power shift 
 
 
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BAGHDAD, Iraq — The temporary stewards of Iraq’s future reclaimed their nation two days early, accepting limited power Monday from U.S. occupiers who wished them prosperity and handed them a staggering slate of problems — including a lethal insurgency the Americans admit they underestimated.

With the passing of a sheaf of documents and a prime minister’s oath on a red Quran, the land once ruled by Saddam Hussein received official sovereignty from U.S. administrators in a secretive ceremony moved up to thwart insurgents’ attempts at undermining the transfer.

“The Iraqi people have their country back,” President Bush said at a NATO summit in Istanbul, Turkey.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5312795/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/us-transfers-sovereignty-iraq-days-early/#.VD82TfldUYk

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I said this before and I'll say it again - Obama screwed up

when he pulled the troops. Someone commented last week

that it wasn't Obama's decision... give me a break! Mr E.O.

"Executive Order" Obama isn't even bound by our Constitution,

much less an "Agreement" made 8 years ago... but hey, if

you want another reason to say "It's Bush's Fault!" I guess

that was as good as any. Anyway... what's done is done, and

what needs to happen next is simply deal with the situation

at hand and not continue to place blame and call names.

Ground troops need to be there, because it's obvious that

the airstrikes aren't doing the job - we've heard that from

Syria, Turkey, and Iraq already.

 

 

 

 

 

My one and only response ...lest I again be accused of high jacking by replying to a comment in the first post....

 

It was NOT Obama's call. BUSH made Iraq a SOVEREIGN NATION and BUSH signed the agreement withdrawing the troops. Obama tried to negotiate for them staying longer, but the Iraq refused altogether. It takes two to negotiate. Iraq would not budge on the immunity and that was non negotiable...(as it should be), As for EXECUTIVE ORDER PRESIDENT.....Obama has the LEAST amount of EO's since Harding. So, short of AGAIN invading Iraq, Obama could NOT keep the troops there without Iraq's consent.

 

That said...I appreciate all you do, and I applaud your extensive research on the situation regarding the rv. I come here for facts on the RV. If I am unable to respond to your political comments without penalty, let me know now. Thanks

 

Sorry, but you're a ****** ***.  Apparently the Big o (not worth capitalizing), and I don't mean Oprah, can do whatever he wants with executive order powers.  The US is the most powerful entity when it comes to helping countries and can influence decisions for a country (except for Putin).  But the o doesn't get the big picture to control the situation and wants to make everything political.  How sad for him and our country.  Hope one day you see the light.  Maybe when an isis (not worth capitalizing) ingrate finds their way to your home and in some way affects your life, you will realize the beliefs you hold were for not and we need to crush these revolting ideologists by getting troops of all Nations on the ground and Pulverize isis. 

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Mr. Montana, I love you (because of what you say and do).  Also, would you consider running for President if the incumbent doesn't declare martial law?

 

Also, since you left us the serious note (video) on ebola, may I ask you if you have heard/read about the plan to make ebola vaccinations, and about 20 other vaccinations mandatory, detaining people who refuse until they acquiese?

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Mr. Montana, I love you (because of what you say and do).  Also, would you consider running for President if the incumbent doesn't declare martial law?

 

Also, since you left us the serious note (video) on ebola, may I ask you if you have heard/read about the plan to make ebola vaccinations, and about 20 other vaccinations mandatory, detaining people who refuse until they acquiese?

 

1. Thank you! And everyone else that has expressed support... it's amazing how a little feedback can kickstart someone's drive. You and a few others really helped me out lately, and it means a lot to me :twothumbs:

 

2. Nope, I couldn't run for Prez... I like making money, I like meeting business people, and I enjoy helping others do the same... but politicians are a different breed. I wash my hands 3X as vigorously anytime I have to touch any of those dirty animals.

 

:twocents:

3. Ebola - Truthfully I haven't done enough research to give a serious response... the video was meant to be humorous. My knee-jerk reaction is simply "restrict flights from Africa"... unfortunately, that's not "Politically Correct" so if Ebola IS a big deal, we're probably in for some problems.... not that any of us should be surprised. 

 

:twocents:

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Adam, please, I appreciate the research and info on our investment, but please let's leave political opinions out of this. We are in this for the money not to cast blame, and when you go on tangents based off your personal opinions it taints and pollutes the facts and we can't tell where one starts and the other ends. This isn't fox or cnn, just the facts, please, we are of diverse backgrounds in a common goal, soon this will be less dinar facts and more of people polluting your forum with bitter chats and keyboard tough guys. I look forward to each Wednesday for the chats but today was too much.

 

the truth hurts, don't it?  :)

 

Adam's "political opinions" are part and parcel of his overall reports to us.  People like you ask him why he thinks a certain way about something affecting an RV, then you get upset when he tells you WHY he says what he says.  lol  Make up your minds, if you have one.

Darn it...I said I wouldn't respond but then you have to go and say that. The truth...

 

 
U.S. transfers sovereignty to Iraq 2 days early Ministers sworn in; Bremer leaves country after surprise power shift 
 
 
APTRANS.gif
updated 6/28/2004 8:14:02 PM ET

BAGHDAD, Iraq — The temporary stewards of Iraq’s future reclaimed their nation two days early, accepting limited power Monday from U.S. occupiers who wished them prosperity and handed them a staggering slate of problems — including a lethal insurgency the Americans admit they underestimated.

With the passing of a sheaf of documents and a prime minister’s oath on a red Quran, the land once ruled by Saddam Hussein received official sovereignty from U.S. administrators in a secretive ceremony moved up to thwart insurgents’ attempts at undermining the transfer.

“The Iraqi people have their country back,” President Bush said at a NATO summit in Istanbul, Turkey.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5312795/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/us-transfers-sovereignty-iraq-days-early/#.VD82TfldUYk

 

And here is more of the "truth",,,,,

 

obummer could and should, have made the puch for troops to say for  a while.  YES, Bush signed the pullout agreement in 08, but then by the same token, "o" should not have been claiming that "he got us out" either, because it was a signed agreement by the previoius adminsitration, not some muslim nutjob in the white house!!!

 

so pick any truth you want buddy, but stick to just one version please.

 

you liberal socialist idiots cannot have it both ways, have you not figured that out yet?

 

but all your "glorious leader" can do is claim credit for what others have done.  just like his statement when SEAL Team 6 took out bin laden, you DO remember that one don't you?  "I formed SEAL Team 6 to go after Bin Laden".  what BS!!!  6 had been around years before that fool was even born.

 

of course, liberal socialists have never been fond of the truth, only "revisionist" truth, and that, lol, changes every other day!!!!

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the truth hurts, don't it? :)

but all your "glorious leader" can do is claim credit for what others have done. just like his statement when SEAL Team 6 took out bin laden, you DO remember that one don't you? "I formed SEAL Team 6 to go after Bin Laden". what BS!!! 6 had been around years before that fool was even born.

of course, liberal socialists have never been fond of the truth, only "revisionist" truth, and that, lol, changes every other day!!!![/quote

Too funny.Please quote where Obama actually said he formed Seal Team 6. The TRUTH is...he didn't.

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Obama (as well as Hilary Clinton) is a Socialist who follows the teachings of Saul Alinsky - Failed policies, no real leadership, and is unmaking America to remake America (see Dinesh D'Souza) which is unnecessary in sense in which he and is ilk want to change our country...

 

Bush, Cheney, Boehner, McCain, et al - Progressives - Not much different than Obama/Pelosi/Reed ... but at least not outright Socialistic or Communistic ...

 

America needs someone who is a true visionary and Constitutional leader, but none are on the Horizon...again, to get back to coming from a position of American exceptionalism...

 

Government (especially Federal) is a necessary evil that was meant to be small, and should be stripped back about 75% with most power/responsibility/rights etc back to the States as was intended in the first place...

 

Adam - your right on the money bro...thanks again for a great site...

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True Yendor (Ben Carson and Herman Cain perhaps as well, there are a few), but getting past the elites that control both parties is the problem...they just seem to juggle power back and forth...history will show the biggest Ponzi scheme ever, especially the last 6 years...I miss Ron Reagan (lol), he was what seemed to be a genuine leader, not perfect, but genuine...

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the truth hurts, don't it? :)

but all your "glorious leader" can do is claim credit for what others have done. just like his statement when SEAL Team 6 took out bin laden, you DO remember that one don't you? "I formed SEAL Team 6 to go after Bin Laden". what BS!!! 6 had been around years before that fool was even born.

of course, liberal socialists have never been fond of the truth, only "revisionist" truth, and that, lol, changes every other day!!!![/quote

Too funny.Please quote where Obama actually said he formed Seal Team 6. The TRUTH is...he didn't.

 

Ahhhh, but he did little grasshopper, he did.  lol  I am not gonna bother going back through his incredible bulk of lies, distortion and BS over the last few months.  You like the ass, YOU do it.  But  he did in fact, in a public TV address, state those words.  And you ARE a mealy mouthed, revisionist, socialist lieberal (intentional mispelling) and you ARE outnumbered by both true patriots and people who seek the truth.  Sadly, you are too blinded by ideaology and idiocy, to see it.

 

I spent 25 years in SOG, and I damn well do NOT appreciate that ass, or any of the incredible disrespect he shows for the country, the military or the Constitution!!!  I do not lean to either major party, and I distrust, and am disillusioned by both sides.  lol  But that idiot puppet of Soros, is a blight on the world, not just the USA.

 

You my friend, are certainly entitled to your opinion, as we all are.  But announcing your idiocy and lack of facts, lol, is a true measure of your intellect.

 

Peace, moron.

 

I love my country, most of the people, but I detest the government, and I certainly do NOT trust it.  This is no longer the country I fought for, lost friends in combat too, or left my own blood scattered in 30% of the worlds countries for.

I believe Allan West comes the closest to being a constitutional leader. Gingrich might know more, but he worries too much about Gingrich.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

 

And right the hell on!!!!!

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Once again Adam and Mod's...Sandfly for all y'all do and for keepin' it real!!!

It's clear with the media's coverage of ISIS that we are not getting the whole truth and nothing but the truth imo! What is really going on behind the scenes with that and why the continued delays in Iraq I can only vaguely speculate! One thing I haven't lost hope in...that one day Iraq will indeed revalue their currency...to me that still remains the only logical choice! Of course we all hope it happens..."right quick" (sorry...I'm allergic to that 4 letter "S" word) but like the old adage says..."it's gonna happen when it happens and not a moment sooner"! :)

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Ahhhh, but he did little grasshopper, he did.  lol  I am not gonna bother going back through his incredible bulk of lies, distortion and BS over the last few months. 

 

Wrong. In fact, he did not. A fact which I suspect you know or you would be HAPPY to quote.

 

During his May 1, 2011, announcement of bin Laden’s death, Obama detailed his role in ordering the bin Laden raid. But he never claimed that he had created the unit that carried out the raid (which he didn’t, in any case).

Obama said in his announcement that shortly after he took office, "I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al-Qaida, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network. … Last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

"Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed.  They took care to avoid civilian casualties.  After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."

In a lengthy interview conducted on May 4, 2011, Obama sounded a similar note.

"Obviously we have extraordinary guys," Obama told Steve Kroft of the CBS newsmagazine 60 Minutes. "Our Special Forces are the best of the best. And so I was not involved in designing the initial plan. But each iteration of that plan they'd bring back to me. Make a full presentation. We would ask questions. We had multiple meetings in the Situation Room in which we would map out -- and we would actually have a model of the compound and discuss how this operation might proceed, and what various options there were because there was more than one way in which we might go about this."

We did not find any evidence that Obama had claimed to have created the special forces team that carried out the raid.

 

 

I have not called anyone here by names, nor insulted anyone, merely pointed out the truth. Shows that you do not care about the truth...only hating someone because of their political party.

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ame="ladyGrace'sDaddy" post="1444393" timestamp="1413402218"]

Outnumbered by what? You don't know me,or anything about me, except I want to read facts about dinars and the progress and not opinions. I couldn't care less about how anyone feels politically, they can all go jump in the ocean, but outnumbered by what?

Ahhh but you do care about others opinions, especially if there not goose stepping

with your liberal agenda. And just to make a point about the simple mindset of liberals

ask yourself this question, what gives you the right to come on a opinions website

that you didn't create and tell the owner/creator of said site not to give an opinion?

And what's that say about your intelligence?

PRAY FOR REVIVAL EVERYDAY

another day closer

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Once again Adam and Mod's...Sandfly for all y'all do and for keepin' it real!!!

It's clear with the media's coverage of ISIS that we are not getting the whole truth and nothing but the truth imo! What is really going on behind the scenes with that and why the continued delays in Iraq I can only vaguely speculate! One thing I haven't lost hope in...that one day Iraq will indeed revalue their currency...to me that still remains the only logical choice! Of course we all hope it happens..."right quick" (sorry...I'm allergic to that 4 letter "S" word) but like the old adage says..."it's gonna happen when it happens and not a moment sooner"! :)

Sweet and to the point. Whole heatedly agree.

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Ahhh but you do care about others opinions, especially if there not goose stepping

with your liberal agenda. And just to make a point about the simple mindset of liberals

ask yourself this question, what gives you the right to come on a opinions website

that you didn't create and tell the owner/creator of said site not to give an opinion?

And what's that say about your intelligence?

Did they change the name of this DINAR website to OPINION FORUM?? I missed that. Most of us come here for FACTS about the Dinar.

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Good morning Adam and thank you for another stellar post. It seems like we take 3 steps forward and then in a blink of an eye 2 steps backward, welcome to iraq. Even though it seems iraq is coming apart with IS issues I am also convinced that their many positive things taking place as well, but as always the doom and gloom sells. I know that all of you have been in this for many many years now and I commend you for your patience, along with your devotion to this site. Faith in what ever format you wish to believe is still faith and as long as I/we maintain that faith good will triumph.

To you Adam, Mods, and all who post here to keep us up to date on the events coming out of Iraq I really appreciate all what you do.

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ame="ladyGrace'sDaddy" post="1444393" timestamp="1413402218"]

Outnumbered by what? You don't know me,or anything about me, except I want to read facts about dinars and the progress and not opinions. I couldn't care less about how anyone feels politically, they can all go jump in the ocean, but outnumbered by what?

by many of us who support Adam in all his endeavors. You have the right (on Adam's website, I might add) to state your mind, and certainly so does he, the owner.  If you don't like what he says, I think you should consider that he owns this website, and shut up.  You have no dog in this fight.

 

Ahhh but you do care about others opinions, especially if there not goose stepping

with your liberal agenda. And just to make a point about the simple mindset of liberals

ask yourself this question, what gives you the right to come on a opinions website

that you didn't create and tell the owner/creator of said site not to give an opinion?

And what's that say about your intelligence?

Did they change the name of this DINAR website to OPINION FORUM?? I missed that. Most of us come here for FACTS about the Dinar.

LOL You are a fool. NO one promised you a fact forum here, only to get the truth, whether it is a current fact, or the opinions of the owner of the website. There are other sites you can visit; you can even start one of your own, but it takes audacity, complete lack of class, and gall on a personal level to come into a website owned by another man and try to tell him how to run it.

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by many of us who support Adam in all his endeavors. You have the right (on Adam's website, I might add) to state your mind, and certainly so does he, the owner.  If you don't like what he says, I think you should consider that he owns this website, and shut up.  You have no dog in this fight.

Please show where I EVER tried to tell Adam how to run his site??

 

This a DINAR FACTS forum. While opinions certainly are allowed, it is not primarily a political OPINION website. I merely corrected Lady's assumption.

 

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Wow, great discussion from everyone.  But let's all try to keep it civil.  We value everyone's opinion, but No name calling, please.   

Grazie.. I noticed a couple of Posts where authors were offending ( with specific epithets) another Member here ( while said Member had not offended anyone here).. Did  what I felt like doing... Reported said posts.

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