ewingm Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I will not banter words or watch a stupid nonsensical video to appease your dementia. I deal in facts. Not guru lies, hype, hyperbole, or intentional fraud. I am still trying to understand the mind set of the average dinarian. You people make no sense. You will defend your involvement in a ridiculous SCAM to your dying day. Pride in what you believe to be your financial acumen will be your downfall. There is an RD coming if iraq survives, which is still in doubt. They will lop the zeros in redenominating the currency. When that happens, you jonestown junkies will be scraped off the CBI books quicker than you can say "Adios". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 You expect us to believe your telling the truth ewingm ? We know you already watched the entire 10 hour video and are watching it again Great video explains the entire situation were in Its a ten hour utube But it pretty much covers it in the first 5 minutes of the video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewingm Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) I will attempt to clear this up for all dinarians. It is important, when making any kind of LOGICAL decision, to be OBJECTIVE in viewpoint. Financial decisions, such as buying or selling stocks, how much to contribute to a 401k, or how much you can afford on a monthly mortgage payment should be made OBJECTIVELY. Using solid facts, not hyperbole. Other decisions we make fall into the SUBJECTIVE realm, where people's opinions, biases, personal experiences will influence the outcome. An example of a subjective decision would be to not go see a certain horror movie because we just don't like that kind of flick. Most rational people make financial decisions OBJECTIVELY. They weigh the FACTS, scrutinize the FIGURES, read up on the mutual fund's perspectus, etc Here lies the PROBLEM. People who bought dinars made a financial decision based, not on a rational, well thought out premise, but in a SUBJECTIVE manner. They were caught up in the opinions and theories of OTHERS, who in turn were influenced subjectively by still others. There was no objective research into the history of world revaluations, or procedures. They bought dinars subjectively. And THAT is why it is sonhard for them to let go. It's based on EMOTION, not objectivity. Edited September 6, 2014 by ewingm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockymtnhi Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Can anyone address this? Since the Dinar is tied to the dollar I'm curious what will happen to it's value if the dollar finally loses it's status as the World's Reserve Currency and the Petrodollar. Russia, China, Iran, etc are pushing this hard. Quote from Andrei Kostin, President and Chairman of Russia's VTB Bank, it's one of the largest banks in Russia, he recently said… "It's time to change the entire international financial system that considers the dollar the key reserve currency. The world has changed." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 They just peg it to something else But the fact that they got billions of those dollars as reserves means they lost all those dollars to back it up Do you really think all the country's in the world that hold US dollars are going to let the dollar fail? These stories we read are attempts to get people to dump the dollar It's not working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockymtnhi Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I would have to agree because even though Russia and China have been selling rather than buying our Treasuries recently our dollar has been rising lately. Check out how much the Euro and Yen have dropped lately compared to the dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 In the end who ever dumps the dollar gets dumped in return They always return to the dollar They are expecting the world to throw away all that wealth because they already did it first and didn't lose a dime Well it's not working and the currency wars never end Just when someone thinks they got it all figured out They get slammed and destroy themselves in the process There's nothing to figure out If you ditch the dollar We do to Then what Nothing That's what They lose we lose So by everyone not ditching the dollar no one loses anything So time goes on They tried many times They are so smart Not really Its really simple All ya got to do is go to the central bank and burn your dollars Why don't they ? Because they are debt notes Its a piece of paper that shows how much debt is owed to you In goods and services that is So if every country wanted to spend them at once for goods and services they would be spending them in the USA Which would make our economy much stronger than it is So they would be back logged with orders for all kinds of things we make in the USA So the dollars cannot lose value before they get their goods and services Or they wouldn't get much for a billion dollars So in the mean time while were are filling these orders we are spending trillions more dollars buying raw materials from around the world so more dollars would be out there Dang it So they can't say we don't accept your dollars or we would say neither do we As a matter of fact we lowered the value of them by a million to one Because that's all we get at the forex from you that's all you get from us Our dollars floats on your price that you set at the forex Give us more at the forex for our dollars when we exchange them for your currencies and we will give you more goods and services Like I said its a free floating currency You set our rate for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewingm Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 The GDP of the United States is twice as big as 2nd place China and EIGHT times bigger than Russia. The global currency reset has been postured every year for a long time, but the bottom line is nobody can carry the freight like the good old USA. Its sour grapes for "wanna be" countries. Remember back in 2009 when the US economy tanked off the housing bubble and financial sector crash, the world economies followed into the recession as well. We set the standard and everyone else plays catch up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 The biggest problem they have is the dollars are already out there They must cash them in in the inited states for final redemption of goods and services Now that's why I've been saying ,, Iraq distributing its currency all over the world first, at our expense , was brilliant All that's left now is to float the value How do we get our currency back into Iraq ? It hAs to go thru the forex The cbi is not obligated to any thing but redemption in goods and services once it's floating monetary policy is in place Now who's gonna argue the price down while they are holding the dinar ? The cbi may buy back some dinar each day thru the forex like all the rest of the country's do Right now Iraq uses its own personal currency auctions to maintain the managed float the use But eventually those currency auctions will be gone and the forex takes over Iraq will just be selling treasuries So if the us treasury took in all our dinar and put them into their foriegn currency reserves They would not ever try to make the dinar worthless unless they wanted to make it worthless It's like holding Iraq hostage by holding its reserves In the mean time if the forex price is a dollar that's what they are worth So holding them in the foriegn reserves as an asset at a dollar value would prop up the dollar even further Now why would any one holding dinar want to destroy the value if they are sitting in their reserves as an asset propping up its own currency So they can sit in the treasury foriegn reserves for the next thousand years who cares We transfer the value into our dollars whether printing up more or just raising the value a pip or two It's like we played monopoly And won and own all the houses hotels and property's And the rest are alowed to continue playing on borrowed money They can't win if you own everything We own the money system unless they are willing to stop and start over But everyone else must be willing to start over too That means they got to throw everything away too I'll be the banker loaning out money Taking 1% off the top makes a huge differance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewingm Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Wow, Dontlop. You just gave me a migraine reading all your crapola. It ain't that complicated. Say after me....83 TRILLION dinars in M2........83 TRILLION dinars in M2....83 TRILLION dinars in M2. Now.....click your heels three times and say GOOOOOOOORVVVVVV!!!!!! The dinar myth is an EMOTIONAL thing, not a RATIONAL thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Ewingm Your like a bug that just flew out of a urinal That's it Same stupid comments day in and day out just like boomer the guy who was here till right before your screen name popped up He constantly said the same things over and over till the finally just banned the mental midget But hey we lucked out right after he was banned , you show up and do the same exact thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewingm Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I will attempt to clear this up for all dinarians. It is important, when making any kind of LOGICAL decision, to be OBJECTIVE in viewpoint. Financial decisions, such as buying or selling stocks, how much to contribute to a 401k, or how much you can afford on a monthly mortgage payment should be made OBJECTIVELY. Using solid facts, not hyperbole. Other decisions we make fall into the SUBJECTIVE realm, where people's opinions, biases, personal experiences will influence the outcome. An example of a subjective decision would be to not go see a certain horror movie because we just don't like that kind of flick. Most rational people make financial decisions OBJECTIVELY. They weigh the FACTS, scrutinize the FIGURES, read up on the mutual fund's perspectus, etc Here lies the PROBLEM. People who bought dinars made a financial decision based, not on a rational, well thought out premise, but in a SUBJECTIVE manner. They were caught up in the opinions and theories of OTHERS, who in turn were influenced subjectively by still others. There was no objective research into the history of world revaluations, or procedures. They bought dinars subjectively. And THAT is why it is sonhard for them to let go. It's based on EMOTION, not objectivity. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) Edited September 6, 2014 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Ok ? Edited September 7, 2014 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Ok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewingm Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Just admit it. You bought your dinars expecting a big 100,000% payday. You have permanent koolaide stains all around your mouth. You later had just enough reasoning power left to recognize you were scammed, and sold out. Its unfortunate, however, that drinking guruspew has irreverseable effects. You will be in your present vegetative state permanently. My heart goes out to you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Ok ? I think I'll go buy a couple powerball tickets And dream of being rich Edited September 7, 2014 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Got my power ball tickets I'm gonna be rich if I hit Hey What do you think about the oil and gas law Some people think if they pass a oil law that Iraq will rv and they think that by the Kurds defying the govt and selling oil that they will force the oil law and that will mean the dinar will rv I think its crazy talk myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Former CIA and NSA director Michael Hayden also told Fox News Radio's "Kilmeade and Friends" on Thursday that "Iraq is not coming back" after this. He called Iraq a divided country, claiming that a "Shiastan" and "Sunnistan" have effectively been created alongside Kurdistan. Hayden said more U.S. support should go toward the Kurds at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewingm Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I agree with Michael Hayden. I said the exact same thing a month ago, except for one exception. It will be Kurdistan, Shiastan and a Sunni/ISIS caliphate. Where the dinar will fit in this equation I have no idea, except to say it certainly ain't gonna 100,000% RV. Not with all those geopolitical factions. The koodaide kids aren't gonna like what's coming. At the very best it will stay pegged at 1166 for years to come. That will make the Guru liers happy. They will continue to spew lemming juice and will make money off new lemming followers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I'm thinking more like 3300 when the chit hits the fan If the war heads into southern Iraq It's gonna get ugly And no one will want to go there to help Maybe 20,000 It seems like this Isis group isn't very strong and won't make it thru the winter alive I think there a bunch of crap head liars pretending to be holier than thou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewingm Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 You are not giving enough credit to the ISIS fanatical philosophy. They will not be easily rooted out and destroyed without a sustained bombing campaign. I don't think the obummer and his liberal base will allow that to happen, so kiss your dinar revalue adios. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Ok Edited September 7, 2014 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted September 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Are we there yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 For Iraq to separate they will have to apply to the UN for partition. If there is no opposition might take a year. But I'm sure there will be boundary disputes. The dollar will the currency of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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