Butifldrm Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) 9/11 Building 7 Exposed on Mainstream Media (C-Span, Aug 2014): Big Step!!! Edited August 5, 2014 by Butifldrm 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer911 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Thank you for posting this Butifldrm. I have researched this a lot and believe most of this as a respected analysis of the circumstances!!!~~~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportfisher Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw What happened to the gold? and the debris was wisked away to China without proper investigation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripphood Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I agree the whole thing has always seemed suspicious to me also. I'm glad that there is someone finally digging in to find the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim1cor13 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Thank you Butifldrm for posting this. A lot of questions that have no answers unless one looks beyond the official story line. I have a friend that is an engineer who years ago brought this subject up. He had me watch a lot of raw footage of events at the time, and pointed out things that I never would have caught without his knowledge. I walked away from that conversation with even more questions, plus that sick feeling one gets when they realize it appears we were not told the truth. In addition, I do analysis and chart work in markets, and there were a lot of discrepancies from what I learned going on shortly before 9/11 with put options being bought on several airlines leading up to that day. Someone had to know the origin of these trades and yet it was never disclosed. The official statement I believe was they did not know, but the clearing mechanism and options board had to know in my opinion. Also, sportfisher asks valid questions, where did the gold go, and why the removal of debris without proper investigatory procedures? Bottom line, if one follows the money, the picture that is painted is sick, yet the results cannot be denied. The use of shock and trauma from that event assisted in forming the support and certain outcome that was desired from the public, and that is an old school trick used often during large scale events. it appeared the story line was settled and written before anyone had the time to investigate to find the truth, and that tells quite a story that still to this day makes me sick to think of. I do not have the answers i would like, but I cannot accpet the official story line after years of reviewing the underlying events leading up to that horrible day. Just my opinion, but it is obvious it is not at all what it appears and I am glad these matters are still being researched. who stood to benefit the most? That question opens up a large list. I hope we continue to dig deeper. Thanks again Butifldrm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterman13 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 It was a false flag operation pure and simple! Big business and the "Military Industrial Complex" needed a new war to fuel the fire, and to bolster profits. JMHO Wm13 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 There was thousands of detectives , fbi, CIA, police officers, lawyers Ect. In New York and surrounding areas and to think that none of them cared enough to look into this in my view is rediculous They would of uncovered something They weren't all in on it Titanium discovered in metal and dust samples at the WTC may (in combination with the presence of other chemicals) indicate the use of thermate. Our take... Professor Steven Jones quotes the following article as an explanation of how thermite reactions may be detected: “When thermite reaction compounds are used to ignite a fire, they produce a characteristic burn pattern and leave behind evidence. These compounds are rather unique in their chemical composition, containing common elements such as copper, iron, calcium, silicon and aluminum, but also contain more unusual elements, such as vanadium, titanium, tin, fluorine and manganese. While some of these elements are consumed in the fire, many are also left behind in the residue.” http://www.materials-engr.com/ns96.html In analysing dust and metal samples later, he identifies high levels of Titanium, and asks “Where does it come from?” Good question. How is it answered in other studies? This one has a couple of suggestions: ...particles rich in iron, aluminum, titanium, and other metals that might be used in building construction... Possibilities include metals that might be found as pigments in paints (such as titanium, molybdenum, lead, and iron)... http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/chem1/ Another suggests concrete could be a factor. We’re not so sure about that -- wouldn’t that be more common in reinforced concrete than the type used at the WTC? -- but for what it’s worth: Metals present in very fine particles in relatively high concentrations were iron, titanium (some associated with powdered concrete), vanadium and nickel (often associated with fuel-oil combustion), copper and zinc... http://www-dateline.ucdavis.edu/021502/DL_wtc.html A third proposes paint as the answer: The very high levels of titanium (> 0.1%) were due to their presence in paint, especially white paint... http://www.ehponline.org/members/2002/110p703-714lioy/lioy-full.html There’s a mention of Titanium use at the WTC site here: The base of the [new Freedom] tower, which was originally to be clad in polished steel and titanium like 7 WTC... http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=7788 And Encarta lists many uses of Titanium, uncluding (of particular interest here) its use in aircraft, “paints, lacquers, plastics, paper, textiles and rubber”: Because of its strength and light weight, titanium is used in metallic alloys and as a substitute for aluminum. Alloyed with aluminum and vanadium, titanium is used in aircraft for fire walls, outer skin, landing-gear components, hydraulic tubing, and engine supports. The compressor blades, disks, and housings of jet engines are also made of titanium. A commercial jet transport uses between 318 and 1134 kg (700 and 2500 lb) of the metal. Titanium is also widely used in missiles and space capsules; the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo capsules were made largely of titanium. Other common titanium alloys include ferrocarbon titanium, made by reduction of ilmenite with coke in an electric furnace; cuprotitanium, formed by reduction of rutile to which copper has been added; and manganotitanium, produced by reduction of rutile to which manganese or oxides of manganese have been added. The relative inertness of titanium makes it available as a replacement for bone and cartilage in surgery and as a pipe and tank lining in the processing of foods. It is used in heat exchangers in desalinization plants because of its ability to withstand saltwater corrosion. In metallurgy, titanium alloys are employed as deoxidizers and denitrogenizers to remove oxygen and nitrogen from molten metals. Titanium dioxide, known as titanium white, is a brilliant white pigment used in paints, lacquers, plastics, paper, textiles, and rubber. http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761569280 Where did the Titanium come from, then? We don’t know, however it seems there’s plenty of choice without having to invoke thermate as a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 This one is also good It's not like the video guy is the only person who looked into this One of the pieces of evidence conspiracy theorists use to say the buildings were brought down is a photo with something they interpret as being left behind by a thermite reaction. http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie123 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Thank You Buti... Good News! It was a false flag operation pure and simple! Big business and the "Military Industrial Complex" needed a new war to fuel the fire, and to bolster profits. JMHO Wm13 Agreed Waterman13... They needed a new "Pearl Harbor"... saw a guy say that on national news not long before 911 happened. Just a way to start the fake "War On Terror"... with no borders and no end... also a way to advance the NSA against our freedoms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) Most wars have been fueled by false flag operations, this is NO surprise. Edited August 5, 2014 by easyrider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) Ya ok No proof Who did it ? They ? Go arrest they Funny not one single lead to anyone person involved at all Everyone of they , never leaked out a single peep to a single family member of involvement or not one person involved ever had a bad divorce where their spouse spilled the beans Nothing But "They" did this And everyone involved just agreed to the terms when the plan was brought to light No one at all just said , " you know what that's just wrong I'm not doing that " And when it happened no one came fourth and said they were approached to be involved but they turned it down Instead all we got is a bunch of nimrods with a screwed up theory and they just pass it around with zero proof of anyone besides the terrorists involvement If there was any proof arrests would be made All the detectives in New York just said ya its an inside job and we don't care Edited August 5, 2014 by dontlop 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 The guy says the beams were burnt off by thermite First problem with that is Thermite is easily ignited Why would the building burn for 40 minutes before the thermite burnt thru the beams Then the rest of them only took seconds to collapse There was plenty of heat to ignite the thermite on contact You can use common fire cracker fuse to ignite thermite So think about it The top of that building would of burnt off imediatly And if it takes time to burn thru a beam how can they explain all the other beams burning thru at free fall speed Just do some math and get a rough estimate of the weight of each floor with everything in it including the concrete floors Then momentum like a punch press does its job You can slowly place the weight of a press on the die and the piece and it won't go thru it but if you drop the weight on it it goes thru it Just keep in mind "They" did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 When cutting steel with a torch air pressure is used to blow the Molton metal out of the way as its cut off Without any concentrated air pressure any use of thermite would of left a runny break in the steel it wouldn't be a straight line cut Each beam would of been melted away not broken or ripped away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Now this is very interesting It's long 2 and a half hours But this anti gravity is twisting two inch thick bars of steel with no heat and no one touching it This machine is making steal rods dance around and bend without touching it , it also shows steel being cut in two pieces without touching it . No fire , it just separates itself in two pieces Start the video at around 1 hour 33 minutes and watch it thru 1 hour 38 minutes Just watch that 5 minutes This scientist explains quite a bit in her two hour video Start around the middle then you might want to go back and watch it all http://vimeo.com/m/57923364 I can't post the link It's almost at the bottom of this link http://www.drjudywood.com/wtc/key.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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