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And that will stop inflation and get the value of the dinar up

You want me to believe they want to use the petro dollars to buy gold 35 trillion dinars worth to get the inflation of the dollar and the euro under control

They are buying 5 tons a month

250 million dollars worth a month

Tell me about it again please I can't waitOr are they talking about the 35 trillion dinars in circulation

And they will use liquidity of foriegn currency to buy gold and trade it for dinar

To create demand for dinar by depleting the stock pile How'd you do that

Hey tell me about how the Kuwait dinar did not rv because they had so much value added to it from the current market price of 5 cents by the govt official exchange rate increase to $3.45

You know

Like you explain the Swiss dinar didn't rv because the market value didn't change

But then explain how the market value did change for the Kuwait dinar but it didn't revalue either

That was funny the other day when you dropped out of the debate and ran away when your answers made no sense at all

Any way do to again. Just for kicks

Make us laugh

Explain the two rvs

Kuwait and Swiss dinar

Do it[/

And that will stop inflation and get the value of the dinar up

You want me to believe they want to use the petro dollars to buy gold 35 trillion dinars worth to get the inflation of the dollar and the euro under control

They are buying 5 tons a month

250 million dollars worth a month

Tell me about it again please I can't waitOr are they talking about the 35 trillion dinars in circulation

And they will use liquidity of foriegn currency to buy gold and trade it for dinar

To create demand for dinar by depleting the stock pile How'd you do that

Hey tell me about how the Kuwait dinar did not rv because they had so much value added to it from the current market price of 5 cents by the govt official exchange rate increase to $3.45

You know

Like you explain the Swiss dinar didn't rv because the market value didn't change

But then explain how the market value did change for the Kuwait dinar but it didn't revalue either

That was funny the other day when you dropped out of the debate and ran away when your answers made no sense at all

Any way do to again. Just for kicks

Make us laugh

Explain the two rvs

Kuwait and Swiss dinar

Do it

creating demand for the dinar by issuing a different object of exchange? cmon man

its not happening. you have these rv goggles, where everything must be tied to rving the dinar. give it up

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filing a complaint on a legitimate transaction is horrible advice. Jerks like this is what clogs up our bureaucratic system in the first place... why should someone file a complaint? If they paid for Dinar, and received Dinar, they weren't ripped off or scammed.

 

So tonight I hit a casino with a 10 ounce gold bar in my pocket.  Tell someone that even though the market closed at 1250/oz, it's trading at 3,000 ounce overseas (total lie), but I'll sell it to him for 2,000/ounce because I'm on a hot streak at the roulette wheel and I need the money.  I didn't scam him?  He paid for gold and received gold, therefore he wasn't ripped off or scammed?  I'll say it again: he paid for gold (dinar) and received gold (dinar), so he wasn't ripped off or scammed.

 

Oh, it's a scam because I lied to him.  Look around, all you see on dinar forums are lies.  Oh, the dinar isn't a scam, because some gurus will tell you it might not happen.  Okay.  When I sell it to him I'll tell him there's only a 99% chance he'll make a big profit, and at worst he'll break even or lose a couple bucks.  Then I'll round up a couple chumps from around the casino and pay them a few bucks (i.e. the advertising money that the dinar sellers pay the site owners and gurus) to tell him that it's a can't lose proposition and give him a bunch of bogus/ignorant/false reasons why he's going to make a lot of money.  Then I'll charge him 2 grand in order to get in on my post gold RV investments and offshore tax protection for his profits.

 

There, not a scam, right?

 

The scam isn't the dinar itself, the scam is the lie that there's any reason whatsoever that it would undergo a massive increase in value.  A lie that is perpetuated here every single day by almost every single member.

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Some more good ones from up top

 

This means about 1 out of every 5 have cashed out if there are 5 million dinar holders in this country.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/171581-how-many-have-cashed-out/#ixzz2sNb4FpWs

 

Let's see.  5 million dinar holders with an average of 2 million dinar each, that's 10 trillion dinar.  That means that even if Iraq could run their country on rainbows and positive thinking and devote 100% of their GDP to paying off foreign currency speculators, it'd still take them the next fifty years.  Unless you're dumb enough to believe the whole world reserve currency nonsense (which even Adam states is BS).

 

 

 

 

i dont get why people say things like we are closer than ever. based on what? just a gut feeling?

 

Because it's one of the few half-truths we get from the gurus that's hard to dispute from a relative perspective.

 

Granted, the RV could be in 6 weeks, months, years or decades from now, but every day we get a little "Closer", and

we are "closer" than we were 5 years ago, not that it makes any difference as of the right-now moment we are sitting in.

 

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/171581-how-many-have-cashed-out/#ixzz2sNc95bcc

By that logic I'm closer today to being able to fly to Mars by flapping my arms than I was yesterday.  Woo hoo, Olympus Mons here I come!


2-2-2014 Newshound Guru Tlar If we are to believe that today there is 35 trillion in circulation, we would have to believe the money supply in dinars has grown from 4 trillion in 2012 to 35 trillion by the end of 2013. The only thing that can be proved is Saleh's statements from early 2012. That would be the beginning numbers that the press has repeated over and over since then. Since 2012 the CBI has not produced any numbers on dinars out and dinars circulating in Iraq.

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/171388-35-trillion-dinars-the-volume-of-cash-in-circulation/#ixzz2sNe3q8EF

 

By saying that the CBI hasn't produced any numbers on their M0/1/2 since 2012, is Tlar proving:

 

A. He's too lazy to look at the CBIs website.

B. He's too poor to own a copy of Excel in order to view the spreadsheets at the CBI updated through December 2013 (if not Jan 2014 by now).

C. He's too stupid to realize that even without Excel you can view the spreadsheet if you use something like Gmail.

D. He's just a big fat liar.

 

I'm betting it's a combo of all four.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH.....................you could use the above bs of a definition on almost all transactions. Prove intent and you might have something...............but of course until you do then you yourself could be accused of slander. Stating things as opinions or based on second hand info is nothing new and common place and again not deemed prosecutable by law without proving intent. Now if you got any proof please by all means present it. I'm defending anyone just stating how the law works. 

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Some more good ones from up top

 

 

Let's see.  5 million dinar holders with an average of 2 million dinar each, that's 10 trillion dinar.  That means that even if Iraq could run their country on rainbows and positive thinking and devote 100% of their GDP to paying off foreign currency speculators, it'd still take them the next fifty years.  Unless you're dumb enough to believe the whole world reserve currency nonsense (which even Adam states is BS).

 

 

 

 

Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/171581-how-many-have-cashed-out/#ixzz2sNc95bcc

By that logic I'm closer today to being able to fly to Mars by flapping my arms than I was yesterday.  Woo hoo, Olympus Mons here I come!

 

By saying that the CBI hasn't produced any numbers on their M0/1/2 since 2012, is Tlar proving:

 

A. He's too lazy to look at the CBIs website.

B. He's too poor to own a copy of Excel in order to view the spreadsheets at the CBI updated through December 2013 (if not Jan 2014 by now).

C. He's too stupid to realize that even without Excel you can view the spreadsheet if you use something like Gmail.

D. He's just a big fat liar.

 

I'm betting it's a combo of all four.

hes misleading. but if your ignorant enough to only listen to dinar marketing, salesman gurus, you kind of deserve it
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BLAH BLAH BLAH.....................you could use the above bs of a definition on almost all transactions. Prove intent and you might have something...............but of course until you do then you yourself could be accused of slander. Stating things as opinions or based on second hand info is nothing new and common place and again not deemed prosecutable by law without proving intent. Now if you got any proof please by all means present it. I'm defending anyone just stating how the law works. 

 

Gee caz, I wasn't aware that I was filing a court document here, I thought I was just pointing out that Tlar is talking out his ass, and then speculating about his motives for talking out his ass.  It doesn't require me to prove intent to do either of those things, does it?

 

It's Tlar's "opinion" that the CBI hasn't updated their numbers since 2012, despite the fact that any idiot can go on the website and see that they update them monthly?  Is that really what you're saying?

 

Sorry, but I can't be accused of slander for speculating as to the motives of why someone (over and over and over again) says things that are 100% provably false about the CBIs financial numbers.  Not by anyone with a brain, anyway.

hes misleading. but if your ignorant enough to only listen to dinar marketing, salesman gurus, you kind of deserve it

 

Unfortunately that probably applies to 90%+ of dinar investors.  They think "researching this investment" = reading weekly chats from imbeciles with no economic background.

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So tonight I hit a casino with a 10 ounce gold bar in my pocket.  Tell someone that even though the market closed at 1250/oz, it's trading at 3,000 ounce overseas (total lie), but I'll sell it to him for 2,000/ounce because I'm on a hot streak at the roulette wheel and I need the money.  I didn't scam him?  He paid for gold and received gold, therefore he wasn't ripped off or scammed?  I'll say it again: he paid for gold (dinar) and received gold (dinar), so he wasn't ripped off or scammed.

 

Oh, it's a scam because I lied to him.  Look around, all you see on dinar forums are lies.  Oh, the dinar isn't a scam, because some gurus will tell you it might not happen.  Okay.  When I sell it to him I'll tell him there's only a 99% chance he'll make a big profit, and at worst he'll break even or lose a couple bucks.  Then I'll round up a couple chumps from around the casino and pay them a few bucks (i.e. the advertising money that the dinar sellers pay the site owners and gurus) to tell him that it's a can't lose proposition and give him a bunch of bogus/ignorant/false reasons why he's going to make a lot of money.  Then I'll charge him 2 grand in order to get in on my post gold RV investments and offshore tax protection for his profits.

 

There, not a scam, right?

 

The scam isn't the dinar itself, the scam is the lie that there's any reason whatsoever that it would undergo a massive increase in value.  A lie that is perpetuated here every single day by almost every single member.

your last paragraph is spot on.

but the blind rver"s say," you dont know until it happens", "it could",. wrong. it is impossible. there is a 0.0000% chance. none, not a glimmer of hope. and none of them have figured it out yet. they think were being mean or something. if you research good and talk to any currency expert you would figure it out. instead, these rver's are waiting for gurus like tlar or any other guru, to give them a pamphlet with step by step playcalling of a rv. hilarious

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it reminds me of a guy at a flea market who thinks his 1990 bulls tshirt is still worth 55 dollars

check out the new idiot rumor, bank story. they went to wells fargo and was asked if they wanted to cash out now at 1:1, and they said no ill wait.

lmfao. hahahahahaha

 

And if you read the comments you get at least two more dumb bank stories.  Three piles of cow flop for the price of one.

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And if you read the comments you get at least two more dumb bank stories. Three piles of cow flop for the price of one.

Here's one of them...

"When I asked my personal banker about dinar.. she said she would check with her manager and got back to me which she did and she told me that they are not dealing with dinar but she has a lot of clients opening bank accounts to prepare for when it rv's. She looked at me, smiled and said "it could be like Kuwaiti Dinar" and I never asked her another question lol"

Like Kuwaiti, eh?

Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a crock!

Here's that massive kwd rv...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/KWD_against_USD.PNG

Oops...

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I proved it to a 50 times and all you guys got is wise cracks

Nothing but bs and lies

Hey maybe you can get together and go down to the old folks home and take the bolts out of the wheels chairs and blame it on someone else

Then stand side by side and call them name and make fun of them

So you say the Swiss dinar didn't rv because the official exchange rate was changed to 150 times what it was the day before

And you say the Kuwait dinar didn't rv because the market value was 5 cents one day and the central bank revalued it to $3.45

So you say the market rate is meaningless

What was purchasing power before the revaluation of the Kuwait dinar 5 cents right ?

Then after the rv the purchasing power was. $3.45 right

Why would that not be a rv ? Because what you could buy one day changed so drastically to the next after the rv

Or because some one wrote you a story and you believed it

I think you lopsters would lie to your mother about lops

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FS4,

 

My point is simple you guys down here complain all the time about "guru/pumper" lie's. These jokers are speculating and building an audience just like you LOPsters. It's all about ego & attention and of course if they're able to collect some coin well that's just iceing on the cake. IMO you guy's down here help promote the GURU/Pumpers better than anyone else, with your constant rants about them.Also IMO the percentage of folks here at DV that take them seriously is about as high as it is for you LOPsters.

 

By the way self promoting ones product beyond what is real, is something used by almost all companies/salespeople/owners on products sold. Does that make anything a scam or just truth in advertising.  

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FS4,

 

My point is simple you guys down here complain all the time about "guru/pumper" lie's. These jokers are speculating and building an audience just like you LOPsters. It's all about ego & attention and of course if they're able to collect some coin well that's just iceing on the cake. IMO you guy's down here help promote the GURU/Pumpers better than anyone else, with your constant rants about them.Also IMO the percentage of folks here at DV that take them seriously is about as high as it is for you LOPsters.

 

By the way self promoting ones product beyond what is real, is something used by almost all companies/salespeople/owners on products sold. Does that make anything a scam or just truth in advertising.  

My point is simple you guys down here complain all the time about "guru/pumper" lie's. These jokers are speculating and building an audience just like you LOPsters.

 

Wrong all they do is lie they don't speculate at all they just tell lies that people want to hear in hopes of getting more attention. now lopsters on the other hand tell the truth and back them with links and document there a huge difference

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Boomer,

 

I'm not going to argue with you or rest of the LOPsters, you have your thoughts/opinions/& beliefs and I have mine. IMO both you(LOPsters) and Gurus/Pumpers have agendas and a big part is ego/attention. You both really need each other to be relevant.   

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Boomer,

 

I'm not going to argue with you or rest of the LOPsters, you have your thoughts/opinions/& beliefs and I have mine. IMO both you(LOPsters) and Gurus/Pumpers have agendas and a big part is ego/attention. You both really need each other to be relevant.   

nope you an other are just made at us for bringing up the truth about what iraq has been talking about doing with there currency which is a Redenomination. you have nothing to back up your claim of why they dont want to redenominate there currency

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Boomer,

 

You flatter yourself, you guys haven't brought anything new to the table that hasn't been out there for years. Google that, I'm sure you'll find what I say is true-lol. 

that because iraq still wants to redenominate there currency and they keep talking about deleting the three zeros LOL

 

there is no new news out there

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FS4,

 

My point is simple you guys down here complain all the time about "guru/pumper" lie's. These jokers are speculating and building an audience just like you LOPsters.  

 

Nope.  Gurus aren't speculating, they're lying in order to pad their own pockets via garbage conference calls, memberships, text fees, and advertising.  They've thoroughly and successfully scammed you though, so you're apparently too blind to see it.

 

As far as the percentage of DV members that take them seriously, practically ALL of them do, including YOU.  You pat yourselves on the back because after 100 times you managed to figure out that they're lying about rates and dates, but then you repeat practically all the other lies they tell as if they're solid facts, including but limited to:

 

1. Lifting three zeros = RV

2. CBs will hold the dinar as a reserve currency.

3. Nominal value means 0.00086

4. The dinar was forcefully devalued in 2003

5. George Bush said the war would pay for itself.

6. The KWD RVd and people made billions and Clinton paid off the debt.

7. Hilly Clinton said Iraq would be the largest economy in the world.

8. Iraq is rich beyond measure.

9. The UST will use the dinar to buy oil.

10. It doesn't matter how many trillions of dinar are in circulation.

11. If the dinar RVs it will massively increase demand for dinar

12. etc, etc, etc.  I could go on for hours with all the guru lies that many people believe around here.

 

Any of those sound familiar?

I proved it to a 50 times and all you guys got is wise cracks

Nothing but bs and lies

Hey maybe you can get together and go down to the old folks home and take the bolts out of the wheels chairs and blame it on someone else

Then stand side by side and call them name and make fun of them

So you say the Swiss dinar didn't rv because the official exchange rate was changed to 150 times what it was the day before

 

 

Official exchange rate never changed, you're lying.

 

Lopsters ask for examples of massive RVs. Dontlop shows them a redenomination that resulted in zero increase in purchasing power, declares himself victor.

And you say the Kuwait dinar didn't rv because the market value was 5 cents one day and the central bank revalued it to $3.45

 

 

Official exchange rate never changed, you're lying again.

 

All you've proven is that you're willing to say anything no matter how stupid and wrong if you think it'll help you win a completely meaningless argument.  And then after you lose the argument, miserably, you bring it up 20 times a day to prove how much you love wasting time.

 

You're in the ignore bin.  All you've got are lies about the KWD and swiss dinar and ridiculous misinterpretations of mundane articles.  There's zero reason for anyone on this site to ever waste any time on your garbage, you contribute absolutely nothing.

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FS4,

 

"practically ALL of them do, including YOU"  WRONG again McFly. As you like to talk in truths.................please reprint ANY post I've made that would come even a smidgen of close to making that a TRUE statement. Seeing as you will not be able to do this....................then that makes YOU a LIAR. So how does that make you any different than the "GURUS/PUMPERS you attack as LIARS on a daily basis?  ANSWER: No different 

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Nope.  Gurus aren't speculating, they're lying in order to pad their own pockets via garbage conference calls, memberships, text fees, and advertising.  They've thoroughly and successfully scammed you though, so you're apparently too blind to see it. As far as the percentage of DV members that take them seriously, practically ALL of them do, including YOU.  You pat yourselves on the back because after 100 times you managed to figure out that they're lying about rates and dates, but then you repeat practically all the other lies they tell as if they're solid facts, including but limited to: 1. Lifting three zeros = RV2. CBs will hold the dinar as a reserve currency.3. Nominal value means 0.000864. The dinar was forcefully devalued in 20035. George Bush said the war would pay for itself.6. The KWD RVd and people made billions and Clinton paid off the debt.7. Hilly Clinton said Iraq would be the largest economy in the world.8. Iraq is rich beyond measure.9. The UST will use the dinar to buy oil.10. It doesn't matter how many trillions of dinar are in circulation.11. If the dinar RVs it will massively increase demand for dinar12. etc, etc, etc.  I could go on for hours with all the guru lies that many people believe around here. Any of those sound familiar? Official exchange rate never changed, you're lying. Lopsters ask for examples of massive RVs. Dontlop shows them a redenomination that resulted in zero increase in purchasing power, declares himself victor. Official exchange rate never changed, you're lying again. All you've proven is that you're willing to say anything no matter how stupid and wrong if you think it'll help you win a completely meaningless argument.  And then after you lose the argument, miserably, you bring it up 20 times a day to prove how much you love wasting time. You're in the ignore bin.  All you've got are lies about the KWD and swiss dinar and ridiculous misinterpretations of mundane articles.  There's zero reason for anyone on this site to ever waste any time on your garbage, you contribute absolutely nothing.

Really

What was the Kuwait dinar official exchange rate in the 4th quarter of 1990 ??? ?????????

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FS4,

 

"practically ALL of them do, including YOU"  WRONG again McFly. As you like to talk in truths.................please reprint ANY post I've made that would come even a smidgen of close to making that a TRUE statement. Seeing as you will not be able to do this....................then that makes YOU a LIAR. So how does that make you any different than the "GURUS/PUMPERS you attack as LIARS on a daily basis?  ANSWER: No different 

 

Really?  You never made a post excited about three zeros being deleted?  Never got excited about bank stories thinking there's something to them?  Never made your own date prediction?

 

Looks like it's you that's the liar.

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FS4,

 

You made the wild accusation......................prove it!  I give you hand here.............................there is no such post. Ya see I entered into this with both eyes open to all possibilities(now that's something you will find in my posts) and invested what I could afford to lose. So again that makes you a LIAR on the same line as a TK, OKIE, TNT, & others. Are ya'll related?

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