dinarbeleiver Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 dinarbeliever "No one will see any changes to the IQD till after the elections in April..." And when the RV doesn't happen after the election, then what? Wait another year for another budget that supposedly has the RV in it? It as been "after the election" or "in the new budget" for years, according to the gurus. How many years before you begin to doubt the predictions? Be honest with yourself. Is there ANY source you would believe if they told you it wasn't going to RV? Would you even believe the GOI? dinarbeliever, if you will believe no one who tells you it will not RV, you are not an investor, you are a member of a cult. I get my information from al iraqiya TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkerBee Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I get my information from al iraqiya TV That's like me saying I get my news from FOX or CNN. You may want to expand your horizons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Hahaha if you consider people calling you out on your BS that you make up harrassment, you really should stay in the childrens section and let the adults have LEGITIMATE discussions here.....No one forces you to post your fairy tale comments here. You choose to.....so either grow a pair and accept the fact that we will tear apart your nonsensical forum facts, or stay on the playground in the rumor section......You can rewrite history in other sections of this forum and people will believe you, but it doesnt work here....It doesn't matter what you chose to believe keep you lost the debate You got nothing to refute with just snotty remarks as usual Not here huh Are you running the lopster pit now ? Lol good luck with that Just show the two different official exchange rates for the IQD prior to bremmer revaluing the Swiss dinar in 2003 And then you proved there was no rv of the Swiss dinar Until then Your just noise Edited February 9, 2014 by dontlop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 It doesn't matter what you chose to believe keep you lost the debate You got nothing to refute with just snotty remarks as usual Not here huh Are you running the lopster pit now ? Lol good luck with that Just show the two different official exchange rates for the IQD prior to bremmer revaluing the Swiss dinar in 2003 And then you proved there was no rv of the Swiss dinar Until then Your just noise There was nothing to debate to begin with!!! You cant change history....not gonna happen..... The kurds got no more value for their swiss dinar the day they were able to exchange.....there was no change in the vqlue of those dinars for the kurds. You can play word semantics all day long eith yourself but its not gonna change the facts.....get over it....your ignorance lost you any sort of credibility you might of had left. Now you and DB are simply the butt of jokes cause your the only two in the history of the world that think the swiss dinar revalued lol 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) So you can't deliver anything that shows there were two different rates for the IQD All the IQD was issued by the cbi The Kurds issued nothing So you can leave the Kurds out of it I know your not going to pretend the only people who had Swiss dinar were the Kurds Or that the Swiss dinar wasn't listed at the cbi as IQD I know you tried to say the Kurds had their own central bank and they backed their own currency But that didn't fly to well So you got nothing Besides the fact that the Kuwait dinar market rate was 5 cents and you said market rate had nothing to do with it You said the official rate is how you determined that the Kuwait dinar did not rv So use the official rate at the cbi for the Swiss Dinar What was the rate before bremmer revalued it in 2003 Your not going to pretend that anyone could take one Swiss Dinar to the cbi and get 150 IQD with saddams picture on it for one IQD without saddams picture on it before bremmer revalued it So what are you pretending happened now Nothing ? I will not go along with your tales keep Geez the Swiss IQD Dinar was in all the neighboring country's as well as iraq so was the IQD with saddams picture on it All IQD had the same exchange rate at the cbi because the official exchange rate wa the same The New Iraqi Dinar (NID) - a free floating currency - was introduced in January 2004 together with a new monetary control system. There are no restrictions or taxes on the purchase or sale of currency; the CBI carries out a regular currency auction in order to stabilize the exchange rate, which now stands around 1300 NID to the US $. The NID is fully convertible and there are no restrictions on capital flows. See the mid was fully convertable It all translated back to the dollar it was pegged to The Swiss dinar was converted at 150 times the saddam notes which both were converted to the NID which was fully convertible to the dollar Just like the old IQD was before it was demonetized both Swiss printed notes and Iraqi saddam printed notes And the exchange rate changed for just the Swiss notes and the Swiss , the saddam , and the nid were all legal tender during the conversion period Notice the temporary new currency code they were converted to The nid It was nota redenomination It wasn't IQD for IQD After the conversion period the old IQD was demonetized and the NID was converted to the IQD Pretending doesn't get it keep You can't pretend a rv of that magnitude never happened Well you and your buddy's can pretend but reality says your wrong What are you going to do flip out again saying that I figured it all out and were going to be millionaires? What's your next wise crack going to be ? Since you cannot present the two different official exchange rates for the IQD prior to bremmer Revaluing the Swiss dinar because of the market rate which you admit happened Geez those official exchange rates sure do get in the way when your trying to say what you say about the Swiss dinar and. The Kuwait dinar Ya just can't have it both ways We know about the market rate of the Kuwait dinar Your stuck All you can say is Iraq is different in the eyes of the IMF You know how far that one flys Do you sell used cars too ? . Edited February 9, 2014 by dontlop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 So look at the buying power in the Kuwait dinar after it was revalued from 5 cents to $3.45 over night rv in Kuwait Your not going to say there was no increase in buying power for the Kuwait dinar are ya How many Kuwait dinar did it take to buy a loaf of bread before the Kuwait dinar was revalued Ya got to figure 5 cent market value it must of cost 30 Kuwait dinars to buy a loaf of bread then the next day it cost less than one dinar for a loaf of bread Geez those darned market rates got nothing to do with rvs ,, right ? Oh that's right the Swiss dinar didn't rv because it cost the same for a loaf of bread the day before the exchange as it did after Or did it Geez This is really something using your two philosophy's to determin rvs How can you sleep at night You read a story that told you everything you know and now again here you are just like in 2010 ,,,,,,,,,,,lost Just sit back and make something else up now That will do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 So look at the buying power in the Kuwait dinar after it was revalued from 5 cents to $3.45 over night rv in Kuwait Your not going to say there was no increase in buying power for the Kuwait dinar are ya How many Kuwait dinar did it take to buy a loaf of bread before the Kuwait dinar was revalued Ya got to figure 5 cent market value it must of cost 30 Kuwait dinars to buy a loaf of bread then the next day it cost less than one dinar for a loaf of bread Geez those darned market rates got nothing to do with rvs ,, right ? Oh that's right the Swiss dinar didn't rv because it cost the same for a loaf of bread the day before the exchange as it did after Or did it Geez This is really something using your two philosophy's to determin rvs How can you sleep at night You read a story that told you everything you know and now again here you are just like in 2010 ,,,,,,,,,,,lost Just sit back and make something else up now That will do it Your wasting your time here.....go try convincing the other gullible dinar holders that you are correct and history is wrong....they might be dumb enough to believe you..... There was no revalue....the CPA allowed the kurds to exchange their swiss dinar for the fair market value they had been using it as.....period.....your just not intelligent enough to be down here. We are gonna have to revoke your privileges of visiting here and confine you to the rumor section......toodles!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 You can't produce the evidence We all know that Everyone's been watching for over a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 You admit it happened They allowed it <<<<<<< ,.,,,, LOL,.,,,, >>>>> That's a funny way of putting it What you really mean is they revalued the official exchange rate to 150 times more Allowed it Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You admit it all the time You just can't get your lips to say the words out loud They revalued it Say it keep Re Valued It All together now They revalued it If you practice it you can do it They allowed it Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ya at ta ya ya ya yah chew zee Did they allow the market rate for Kuwait to be 5 cents to Then they allowed it to be $3.45 over night too ? Hey they allowed it Ah ha ha ha ha ha Your quite a comedian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Ya just got to remember keep your the one who started all this crap I simply made a statement You ridiculed me and called me names about my statement Then I ask you to back up what you say And you can't They allowed it Doesn't get it keep The Kurds had their own central bank doesn't get it keep The Kurds backed their own IQD doesn't get it keep The market rate determined how much the rv was going to be I get that So by decree on October 14 th 2003 Paul bremmer changed the official exchange rate to 150 times what the official exchange rate was the day before End of story Not 150 % 150 times Or 15,000 % Keep on crying no they didn't That is also quite comical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVPleaseToday Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 So, dontlop, would you be happy if Iraq changed the official exchange rate 15,000 percent, and a loaf of bread still cost the same the next day? Wouldn't that mean that you didn't benefit at all? All that happened was that the cost of bread effectively went up 15,000 percent? That was what happened with the Kurds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinarbeleiver Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 That's like me saying I get my news from FOX or CNN. You may want to expand your horizons.articles as well as visiting the IMF ,bis, ect ectBut the main stuff I follow is aliraqiya TV via translation How does a lop allow a greater purshasing power and add value to the IQD ? Answer it does not its a revenue neutral event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Well I can now fully understand why you think the dinar you hold will RV......you really suffer from adult illiteracy and a severe lack of basic comprehension skills. Were you kicked out of school for failing toomany grades?? Or did you just drop out because it was too hard for you?I said nothing even close to agreeing that the swiss dinar RVd......quite the opposite...this is exactly why your a joke. You dont understand anything that you read....stop trying to change history.....so is that what you think about Adam ? He thinks the dinar we hold will rvI guess now your saying he has adult illiteracy Hmm I'd just go ahead and ban you Your more troue than its worth So, dontlop, would you be happy if Iraq changed the official exchange rate 15,000 percent, and a loaf of bread still cost the same the next day? Wouldn't that mean that you didn't benefit at all? All that happened was that the cost of bread effectively went up 15,000 percent? That was what happened with the Kurds.thats stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 The CPA revalued a portion of the IQD not all of it What's your take on the Kuwait dinar was it revalued ? Geez one day it took 30 Kuwait dinars to buy a loaf of bread The next day after the over night rv they could buy a loaf of bread for 1/2 of a Kuwait dinar When the Kuwait govt returned to Kuwait after the war should they of backed the Kuwait dinar at the 5 cents market rate ? Or should they of revalued the official exchange rate like they did 70 times higher than the market rate ? Yes they did get more for the Swiss dinar at the central bank 150 times more than they would if the day before the exchange If they paid 1 dinar for bread then bremmer revalued the dinar by 150 times higher and the bread cost the same as it did Then it was a rv Your question makes no sense So, dontlop, would you be happy if Iraq changed the official exchange rate 15,000 percent, and a loaf of bread still cost the same the next day? Wouldn't that mean that you didn't benefit at all? All that happened was that the cost of bread effectively went up 15,000 percent? That was what happened with the Kurds. Yes I would be happy But if the loaf of bread wasn't the same and it went up 15,000 percent No I wouldn't be happy But that has nothing to do with me being happy The central bank official exchange rate is just that It's not a treat It's an exchange rate guarenteed by the govt It's not about speculators getting rich No one has to get rich to adjust the official exchange rate But who ever held the Swiss dinar did make out by getting 150 to one from the cbi which a day earlier that would. Not Of of happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Well I can now fully understand why you think the dinar you hold will RV......you really suffer from adult illiteracy and a severe lack of basic comprehension skills. Were you kicked out of school for failing toomany grades?? Or did you just drop out because it was too hard for you?I said nothing even close to agreeing that the swiss dinar RVd......quite the opposite...this is exactly why your a joke. You dont understand anything that you read....stop trying to change history..... Nope you said it was revalued because of the market rate You surely can't think we believe they could always get 150 times the exchange rate at the cbi for the Swiss dinar That was only after the rv in 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandstorm Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 dontlop, your flat out liar. i hope your go down with the scam your pushing. you couldnt pass the 6th grade. your calling a rd a rv. your flat out liar. end of story The CPA revalued a portion of the IQD not all of it What's your take on the Kuwait dinar was it revalued ? Geez one day it took 30 Kuwait dinars to buy a loaf of bread The next day after the over night rv they could buy a loaf of bread for 1/2 of a Kuwait dinar When the Kuwait govt returned to Kuwait after the war should they of backed the Kuwait dinar at the 5 cents market rate ? Or should they of revalued the official exchange rate like they did 70 times higher than the market rate ?Yes they did get more for the Swiss dinar at the central bank 150 times more than they would if the day before the exchange If they paid 1 dinar for bread then bremmer revalued the dinar by 150 times higher and the bread cost the same as it did Then it was a rv Your question makes no sense Yes I would be happy But if the loaf of bread wasn't the same and it went up 15,000 percent No I wouldn't be happy But that has nothing to do with me being happy The central bank official exchange rate is just that It's not a treat It's an exchange rate guarenteed by the govt It's not about speculators getting rich No one has to get rich to adjust the official exchange rate But who ever held the Swiss dinar did make out by getting 150 to one from the cbi which a day earlier that would. Not Of of happened wrong!!!trillion percent rv?? hahahhah. your a liar. a trillion percent rv, that no one made any money on. look at this liar trying to say so. i use liar, only because its factual he is absolutely wrong. these are the type of con men you need to be worried about 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 dontlop, your flat out liar. i hope your go down with the scam your pushing.you couldnt pass the 6th grade. your calling a rd a rv. your flat out liar. end of storywrong!!!trillion percent rv?? hahahhah. your a liar.a trillion percent rv, that no one made any money on. look at this liar trying to say so.i use liar, only because its factual he is absolutely wrong.these are the type of con men you need to be worried about And another one flips out Nothing to back yourself up with is there sandstorm ?? There's no lies there None 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandstorm Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 And another one flips out Nothing to back yourself up with is there sandstorm ?? There's no lies there None your claiming to say a neutral rd was a massive rv. your acting in line with the word fraud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Sandstorm answer this You think they could go to the cbi and always get 150 times the exchange rate for the Swiss dinar before the rv in 2003 ? And you think they gained nothing during the exchange ? I really don't care what the Kurds bought and sold their goods for They are not the issuing authority your claiming to say a neutral rd was a massive rv. your acting in line with the word fraud All I said was the official exchange rate was revalued It's you and your buddy's that are adding everything to this Are you going to run as you always do from the question ? Could you go to the cbi and get 150 times the IQD exchange rate for the Swiss dinar before the rv in 2003? I've asked you and all of your buddy's that question They just flip out like you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandstorm Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Sandstorm answer this You think they could go to the cbi and always get 150 times the exchange rate for the Swiss dinar before the rv in 2003 ? And you think they gained nothing during the exchange ? I really don't care what the Kurds bought and sold their goods for They are not the issuing authority All I said was the official exchange rate was revalued It's you and your buddy's that are adding everything to this Are you going to run as you always do from the question ? Could you go to the cbi and get 150 times the IQD exchange rate for the Swiss dinar before the rv in 2003?I've asked you and all of your buddy's that question They just flip out like you do keep misleading people. when this rv never happens, people feel frauded, youll be right on the list of complaints. keep it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 dontlop, your flat out liar. i hope your go down with the scam your pushing.you couldnt pass the 6th grade. your calling a rd a rv. your flat out liar. end of storywrong!!!trillion percent rv?? hahahhah. your a liar.a trillion percent rv, that no one made any money on. look at this liar trying to say so.i use liar, only because its factual he is absolutely wrong.these are the type of con men you need to be worried about What scam is it that I'm pushing That the swiss dinar was revalued at 150 times higher than the saddam dinar on October 15th 2003? I do have documentation that proves that happened signed by Paul bremmer http://www.casi.org.uk/info/cpa/20031015_CPAORD43.pdf There's the proof What's the scam I'm pushing ? keep misleading people. when this rv never happens, people feel frauded, youll be right on the list of complaints. keep it up Come on sandstorm answer the question You are smart enough to answer it right Could you go to the cbi and get 150 times the IQD exchange rate before 10/15/2003 ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandstorm Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 so is that what you think about Adam ? He thinks the dinar we hold will rv I guess now your saying he has adult illiteracy Hmm I'd just go ahead and ban you Your more troue than its worth thats stupid what, you think adam has a crystal ball? hes marketing all his sites and selling memberships. if i was him, id care less if it ever rv"d. hes making his buck now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Your doting the question for months now shows me you are the one pushing a scam sandstorm what, you think adam has a crystal ball? hes marketing all his sites and selling memberships. if i was him, id care less if it ever rv"d. hes making his buck now Now again you answer for keep You all should be banned from this site especially you sandstorm and keep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandstorm Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 i dont buy things from businesses whose owner uses a fake name. i drive down the road, with my name plastered all over the sides, and where my name on my shirt. i dont get it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 So since you refuse to answer the question That means I am telling the truth which means you are the liar sandstorm and you and your scam will be held accountable Sand storm For the 10th time Could you go to the cbi before the rv in 2003 and get 150 times the IQD official exchange rate for the Swiss dinar ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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