yota691 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) Baghdad refuses to sell oil from Kurdistan to Turkey and threaten to sue companies and agencies responsible Fri Jan 10 2014 one forty-one p.m. | (Voice of Iraq) - Sumerian News / Baghdad announced that the Iraqi Oil Ministry, on Friday, refusing to sell crude oil from the Kurdistan region to Turkey, also drew strong protest to Turkey being bucked the tripartite agreement signed in this regard, threatening to sue all companies and entities that have done so. ministry said in a statement received "Alsumaria News", a copy of "The ministry regrets and surprised by the announcement of the Ministry of Natural Resources in the region represented by the so-called institution of marketing oil in Kurdistan about allow the Turkish government represented by the Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources and the company Botas using system pipe line Iraqi - Turkish pumping and storage of large quantities of crude oil produced in the Kurdistan region without getting the approval of readiness. " the ministry added that "the region will sell the shipment of crude oil, the amount of 2 million barrels in late January / 2014, increasing thereafter to reach to 4 million barrels in late February. " and explained that "these quantities and as declared by the Kurdistan Regional Q up to 6 million barrels late March, to settle after that to be in the range (10-12) million barrels during the month of December / 2014, "indicating that" the region will be used in the transportation of crude oil system line Iraqi-Turkish without getting the approval of the Federal Government of Iraq on that. " ministry confirmed that "the conduct of the Ministry of Natural Resources in the Kurdistan region is a flagrant violation of the provisions of the Iraqi Constitution, the relevant resources of Iraq's natural, as Record this declaration a clear violation and unacceptable for an agreement last won at the end of the month of December of last year between the federal government of Iraq and the Kurdistan Regional Government. " and pointed statement and the Oil Ministry said that "the meeting of the technical committee included specialists from the two sides and that it was hoped her to develop mechanisms Export of amounts allocated from the oils produced in the region mixed with oil of Kirkuk crude from the Turkish port of Ceyhan and through standard contracts for Oil Marketing Company (SOMO) of the Ministry of Oil Federation exclusively. " and expressed the Federal Ministry of Oil "refusal to strongly mechanism Export declared by the Ministry of Natural Resources in KRG and contained to be the role of the Oil Marketing Company (SOMO) is an observation only. " the ministry said in its statement that it "went they require heavily to the Turkish government for allowing represented by the Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources and the company Botas using the system pipe-line Iraqi - Turkish pumping and storage of large quantities of crude oil Product in the Kurdistan region without getting the approval of the federal government of Iraq. " She said, "Turkey violated the tripartite agreement reached between the Turkish side, represented by Minister of Energy and Mineral Resources and the Iraqi side of the concerned federal government of Iraq and the Kurdistan Regional Government during the meeting, which was the beginning of the month of December / 2013 ". statement said that "the Turkish government violated the pledge which not to allow the export of crude oil produced in the Kurdistan region through pipeline system only after obtaining the approval of the federal government of Iraq." and showed that "the violation of the Turkish side extends to overturn the terms of the Joint Declaration signed between the two governments in Baghdad on September 19, 2010, which stated that the sovereignty and authorization to export hydrocarbon resources Iraqi Ikunan exclusively for the oil ministry Federal Iraqi Oil Marketing Company (SOMO) and set aside the text of Article (2.4) of the modified agreement crude oil pipeline agreement signed between the two governments on the same date above, which confirms the content of the joint declaration said. " stressed the Federal Oil Ministry in its statement that it "official authority vested exclusively export wealth hydrocarbon Iraq, including crude oil and gas represented company SOMO (SOMO) and through standard contracts entered into for this purpose exclusively." and noted that "companies and entities The people involved in participating conclusion of contracts or agreements for the sale and purchase of crude oil or gas produced from fields in the Kurdistan region or from any of the oil and gas fields other in Iraq with views is Oil Marketing Company (SOMO) bear all the legal consequences and criminal implications of this and will be prosecuted on the grounds that those shipments sold had been smuggled contrary to the laws in force. " The Kurdistan regional government, predicted on Thursday (the ninth of January 2014) to send one million barrels at the beginning of its exports of oil through the new pipeline passes in Turkey by the end of the month of January current . Sources familiar with the energy sector in the Kurdistan region, in the (14 December 2013), the start of tests to pump oil in a new pipeline from Iraq's Kurdistan to Turkey, but it is not scheduled yet to send any exports, meanwhile, announced Turkish Energy Minister Taner Yildiz , on the second of January 2014 for the start of pumping oil from the Kurdistan region of Iraq to the Turkish port of Ceyhan. noteworthy that the Deputy Prime Minister for Energy Hussain al-Shahristani met, in (the second of December 2013), Turkish Energy Minister Steiner Yildiz, announced the readiness of Iraq To meet the needs of Turkey for oil and gas in accordance with the mechanisms and criteria Iraqi approved for Iraqi oil marketing company, stressing that any quantity exported from the oil and from any area in Iraq should be measured by the Ministry of Oil of Iraq. was president of the Kurdistan Regional Government Nechirvan Barzani visited Baghdad in (December 25 2013) to discuss outstanding differences between the federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government and solving the problems between the province and the federal government on the budget and oil revenues from the region. origin of the ancient dispute renewed between the governments in Baghdad and Erbil to oil contracts concluded by the region and which Baghdad deems illegal, while he says the region they are based to the Iraqi constitution and the bilateral agreements with the federal government. 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Kinematik Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 What a bunch of retards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captl1 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Sounds like someone didn't get their piece of the pie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eburt Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I so sick of this crap. This whole thing is a joke. I beginning to think we will not see any thing regarding RV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 As long as the Kurds keep trying to intercept the oil ministry's money this will never end They got to freeze the assets put out law suits now And perhaps toss a few of the Kurdish polititions in prison Wars are definatly fought over oil disputes The oil does not belong to the Kurds It belongs to the sons of Iraq Which means everyone even the Sunnis in anbar province Washinton has made it clear on several occasions They stand with Baghdad The Kurds are gonna get their asssses kicked and assets frozen and tossed in prison for theft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLHUBER Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I say this is all Hog Wash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 IF this is true, then the Kurdish parliament needs to simply declare there independence from the childish government of Iraq and and declare there autonomy. Put there troops on the Kurdish/Iraqi border and tell American to suck it. The biggest problem Kurdistan had with leaving Iraq was that there a land locked country with no allies. Well now that Turkey is on board they could do it. You want America to get rid of the terrorists/dictator Maliki and his Iranian thugs in parliament? Let the scenario I just put forth and watch how fast we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) Thought the $$$$ went straight into a bank account..untouched..under the supervision of different agency...unless it black market...but what flowing threw that tubes is metered...I would assume... Edited January 10, 2014 by yota691 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 That would work out great Then the southern Iraqis claim their oil The Sunnis just keep suicide bombing The central bank just dissolve The dinars flushed all because the Kurds think they are running Iraq Nah The Kurds wiill be slaughtered if they tried The oil will go thru the oil ministry in Baghdad It's starting to look like the only way these people are going to get it is to put a dictator in there and squash some heads like saddam did Thought the $$$$ went straight into a bank account..untouched..under the supervision of different agency...unless it black market...but what flowing threw that tubes is metered...I would assume... Ya yota If oil is leaving Iraq in a pipeline and Baghdad is not running the show There is going to be some heads rolling soon It's looking like the Kurds don't understand talk I've seen this over and over that Washington stands with Baghdad on this issue The state dept and John Kerry made this very clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 There is nothing good about the Kurds taking control of the oil in the Kurdistan region of Iraq Nothing It would cripple the country It could end up breaking the country up in 3 country's This is what joe Biden has been pushing for for the last decade He think a three little country's would be easier for us to defeat But the only problem is the anbar province They don't have oil That's where the Sunnis live So the kurds gets the oil in the north The shittes get the oil in central and southern Iraq And the Sunnis get the western desert with nothing Good luck with that Iran would just merge with the south and control more of the coast line The Kurds would try to expand their territory and turkey would pound their lights out Your looking at another 100 years of war if this thing doesn't go as planned They will make it happen If it takes a few heads to roll in the north They are going to roll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 IF this is true, then the Kurdish parliament needs to simply declare there independence from the childish government of Iraq and and declare there autonomy. Put there troops on the Kurdish/Iraqi border and tell American to suck it. The biggest problem Kurdistan had with leaving Iraq was that there a land locked country with no allies. Well now that Turkey is on board they could do it. You want America to get rid of the terrorists/dictator Maliki and his Iranian thugs in parliament? Let the scenario I just put forth and watch how fast we do. actually LCD I tend to agree with you here...contrary to what some may think...the Kurds and the Peshmerga are NOT weak...unless M gets support from outside he may find the Kurds a tough nut to crack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooter Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 They should come up with a mutual agreement to share the oil revenues. They should call it the "HCL". :-$ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) Their that 3 region subject again..dontlop..it is the agenda on Ole Joe list of do...if I'm not mistaken..was one of his first comments on Iraq...after taking the title of vp.. One oil refineries in Iraq, a newly established Oil: Kurdistan ready to export oil to Turkey, another of the agreements, and we will go after the perpetrators prosecuted Author: HA, HAA Editor: BS, HA thirty-eight past three p.m. 01/10/2014 Number of readings: 99 Long-Presse / Baghdad I went back and the oil ministry, said on Friday, the decision of the Kurdistan region to export oil to Turkey later this month "unacceptable violation" of the agreements, and threatened to prosecute the perpetrators prosecuted, the fact that shipments are considered "contraband", while expressed its strong protest to the Turkish government to use system pipes Iraqi line - Turkish, The oil in a statement received (range Press), a copy of the "Declaration of the Ministry of Water Resources in the Kurdistan region, their willingness to sell a shipment of crude oil, the amount of two million barrels at the end of January 2014, to increase thereafter to reach up to 10 to 12 a barrel during the month December 2014, using the Iraqi-Turkish-line system without the approval of the federal government, is a clear violation and unacceptable. " The statement added that "the agreement, which happened in 25 of January 2013, between the Federal Government of Iraq and the Kurdistan Regional Government, which was based on the meetings of the technical committee, which included specialists from the two sides and that it was hoped her to develop mechanisms export of amounts allocated from the oils produced in the region mixed with the oil of Kirkuk crude from the Turkish port of Ceyhan and through standard contracts for Oil Marketing Company (SOMO), exclusively, "and stressed that" the ministry rejects strongly the export declared and included the role of the Oil Marketing Company (SOMO), is an observation only. " The statement, "the companies and entities and persons involved in participating conclusion of contracts or agreements for the sale and purchase of crude oil or gas produced from fields in the Kurdistan region or from oil and gas fields other in Iraq with views is Oil Marketing Company (SOMO) all legal consequences and criminal implications of this," and threatened b "prosecuted on the grounds that those shipments had been sold smuggled Unlike the laws in force." The statement expressed "protest ministry intense about grace and the Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources of the Turkish company Botas using the system pipe-line Iraqi - Turkish pumping and storage of large quantities of crude oil produced in the Kurdistan region without getting the approval of the Federal Government of Iraq in violation of the tripartite agreement reached between the Turkish side and the side Iraq and the Kurdistan Regional Government, which has pledged to which the Turkish government not to allow the export of crude oil produced in the Kurdistan region through the pipe system only after obtaining the approval of the federal government of Iraq. " The statement stressed that "the violation of the Turkish side extends to overturn the terms of the Joint Declaration signed between the two governments in Baghdad on 19 September 2010, which stated that the sovereignty and authorization in the export of hydrocarbon resources of the Iraqi Ikunan exclusively to the Ministry of the Federal Oil and Iraqi Oil Marketing Company (SOMO), as well as aside from the text of the article (2.4) of the Amendment to the Convention crude oil pipeline agreement signed between the two governments on the same date above, which confirms the content of the joint declaration said. " The federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government, confirmed in (25 December 2013), the need to strengthen security coordination between the two sides because of the nature of "terrorist threats" against both Baghdad and Erbil, while the parties announced an agreement that meets the technical committees and experts to look at ways to address the issues contentious before approving the state budget. Declared the presidency of Kurdistan Regional Government, earlier in the day, with the direction of the Prime Minister Barzani to Baghdad at the head of a delegation from the region, to discuss the differences with the federal government on the file of oil and the budget, indicating that the delegation includes both the Vice President of the Kurdistan government, Imad Ahmad, and a number of ministers, advisers and specialists, and among other things discussed by the pipeline between the KRG and Turkey. The file is one of the oil threads "sticking" in the relationship with Baghdad, Ankara, against the backdrop of the recent relationship Arbil and facilitate the export of the region's oil through its territory, which opposes Baghdad along the line. Edited January 10, 2014 by yota691 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motox565 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 They should come up with a mutual agreement to share the oil revenues. They should call it the "HCL". :-$ Lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 They should come up with a mutual agreement to share the oil revenues. They should call it the "HCL". :-$. The laws are done its called nationalized oil and proceeds are distributed thru the annual budget They do need to keep the distribution equally distributed per capita Being that it's nationalized that means the location of the oil isn't important The ones who love near the oil fields already benifit from employment But I do recognize the environment suffers from all this drilling and pollution so they should be compensated accordingly to maintain clean air and land and water as well as road maintenance waste and what not So they do have some things that need hashed out But in the long run this all being done thru a centralized oil ministry would have its advantages for those who don't live on top of oil reserves Ya can't let them just starve like a third world country Those area should get heavy investment for private sector growth whether it be manufacturing or what sector They must provide a living for them too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrref Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) I so sick of this crap. This whole thing is a joke. I beginning to think we will not see any thing regarding RV Don't know how long you've been around but I'm going into my 11 year and I've seen and heard it all. Its always the same ole dance and song.. There will be no RV, not as long as the USDollar is there, they can play this game as long as they want.. Edited January 10, 2014 by mrref 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericaInc Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Don't know how long you've been around but I'm going into my 11 year and I've seen and heard it all. Its always the same ole dance and song.. There will be no RV, not as long as the USDollar is there, they can play this game as long as they want.. You knowwwww....I hate to say it. I really do. But I agree with you mrref. I have not heard a single argument on this site that convinces me that they cannot go on using the dollar. Every time a guru says Tariffs! They gotta RV! WTO! RV! WTO doesn't require a high tradable currency - just a currency. There was one argument that seemed to hold water - tariffs - if the people are paid in dinar, then have to convert to dollars, and all prices go up due to tariffs, they will lose a bit more to inflation and spreads, but not revolt, I don't think. They have been getting along just fine for over ten years with the dollar. If they HAD to RV, they probably would have by now. Apparently someone is making enough money the way it is to leave it that way. There has to be some big change - leadership, civil war, something to push them there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBomb Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Oil: confine ourselves now warning companies and people involved in the conclusion of contracts involved the export of oil from the region Fri Jan 10 2014 17:58 | (Voice of Iraq) - Add a comment - Long-Presse / Baghdad The Ministry of Oil in Baghdad, on Friday, it would only at the present time to warn the companies and people involved in participating conclusion of contracts for the export of oil from the Kurdistan region, indicating that it would wait for responses from the Government of Turkey and the region, and operating companies. He said ministry spokesman Assem Jihad said in an interview to the (long-Presse), "The ministry sent a warning to companies and entities and persons involved in participating conclusion of contracts or agreements for the sale and purchase of crude oil or gas produced from fields in the Kurdistan region or from any of the oil and gas fields other in Iraq views with non-Oil Marketing Company (SOMO), because it is contrary to the agreements concluded recently and materials Iraqi constitution, noting that "carry warning those actors all legal consequences and criminal implications, as well as the prosecution." He Jihad that "the ministry is currently only issuing the press statement, which was evident by the warning from doing that step and then wait for responses to the situation of Iraqi oil exports from the region, whether from the Government of the Territory or of Turkey or even by companies operating on the export of oil. " The Ministry of Iraqi oil through a press statement issued on Friday, refusing to sell crude oil from the Kurdistan region to Turkey, also drew strong protest to Turkey being bucked the tripartite agreement signed in this regard, threatening to sue all the companies and entities that have done so. The Kurdistan Regional Government, predicted on Thursday (the ninth of January 2014) to send one million barrels at the beginning of its exports of oil through the new pipeline passes in Turkey by the end of the current month of January. Read more: http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=3&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsotaliraq.com%26biw%3D1600%26bih%3D731&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&u=http://www.sotaliraq.com/mobile-news.php%3Fid%3D131573&usg=ALkJrhhsjSumOo7tJVUFOipy1L43geSCXw#ixzz2q1w2cFi0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Boy did somebody tone down their rhetoric quickly. Now were just warning. Guess that world perception thing might have gotten to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymrat76541 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I gotta cry BS on this one. We have been receiving reports of the oil flowing through the pipelines into Turkey for the last week. Did the turn off the tap? LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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