Gunshow2425 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 September 10, 2013 , <---IT SAYS THIS DATE, BUT IT CAME OUT TODAY OUT OF THE WOODWORKS. It is important to remember times in history when the United States supplied dictators with weapons that are condemned today. The time is December 1983 near the middle of President Ronald Reagan's first term. Iran and Iraq are at war, and Iran is gaining the upper hand in the military struggle. In an effort to stave off Iranian Islamic dominance in the region President Reagan sent Donald Rumsfeld to broker a secret deal with Saddam Hussein. In the secret 90-minute meeting Rumsfeld arranged for Saddam Hussein to acquire sarin nerve gas, anthrax, bubonic plague, along with others. He also arranged for Iraq to receive billions of dollars in loans to pay for these weapons. How would Rumsfeld be able to do this? From the years 1977 to 1985 Donald Rumsfeld was the CEO of a major pharmaceutical corporation known as Searle & Company which, coincidentally enough, was sold to Monsanto in 1985. Records also show that then CIA Director William Casey personally involved himself in assisting funneling cluster bombs to Iraq through a foreign shell company. http://www.examiner.com/article/ronald-reagan-gave-saddam-hussein-chemical-weapons-to-fight-iran? Later in 1988 United States intelligence agencies alerted Iraq to Iranian troop movements, and Iraq responded with a barrage of chemical weapon attacks. This information remained sealed as a state secret until it was released by the State Department due to a Freedom of Information Act request. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 BULLSHEIT. Let's see Bill Clinton sold every inch of America to the Russians. I can prove it because Hilarious had a top secret eyes only meeting that only I am privy to with Putin in which she promised sexual favors to the entire politburo. Something involving the use of knee pads. To make him president of Russia in exchange Putin would do for every democrat what hilarious did to the pulitbouro so that hilarious will be America's next prez. And you can take that to the bank. Sad part is stupid libs would believe this story. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeetdog Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 LDG...Dawg, we're goin' to have'a knee up to a bar and down a couple cold ones when this things said and done.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 You'll have to go to Belize my friend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunshow2425 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 BULLSHEIT. Let's see Bill Clinton sold every inch of America to the Russians. I can prove it because Hilarious had a top secret eyes only meeting that only I am privy to with Putin in which she promised sexual favors to the entire politburo. Something involving the use of knee pads. To make him president of Russia in exchange Putin would do for every democrat what hilarious did to the pulitbouro so that hilarious will be America's next prez. And you can take that to the bank. Sad part is stupid libs would believe this story. huh? Yea 100% of all republicans do everything right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 huh? Yea 100% of all republicans do everything right. Oh. Heck don't get me lying most republicans aren't much better. In my not so humble opinion there two heads of the same monster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunshow2425 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Oh. Heck don't get me lying most republicans aren't much better. In my not so humble opinion there two heads of the same monster. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Yep and it is G. W. Bush fault. Man are we grasping for anything that might get some traction. All we need to do is deflect interest any way we can, Just get the American people interested in something other than what we are doing in the cesspool. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeetdog Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 You'll have to go to Belize my friend. Belize is as good as it gets...I got the first round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Ronald Reagan did Lol What did Reagan carry the chemical weapons around in his pocket ? I'm not sure the us was using chemical weapons themselves There were no sanctions on Iraq during the 80s So anyone could sell them chemicals that could be used to make chemical weapons And chemical weapons are not sitting around armed with chemicals They arm them if they would be using them Saddam had lots of precursors to make up chemical weapons And the chemicals could be mixed fairly quickly Only one percent of saddams arsenal came from the USA Russia France and Germany did way more to arm Iraq than the USA did We do have bs reporters in the us just like Iraq has and political pundents who twist the truth on any opportunity to advance their own agendas I believe it was only 1 percent came from the usa Rep. Nancy Pelosi, a strong supporter of military strikes, echoed that argument on Tuesday. She noted that as far back as 1925, nearly 40 nations had joined together to ban the first use of chemical weapons when the Geneva Protocol was signed. (Her mention of 170 countries appears to refer to the 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention, which seeks to prohibit the production of chemical weapons and mandates their destruction; Syria has refused to sign the treaty, though 189 other countries have signed it.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 We will never know exactly what happened Some things are just covert No documentation Iranians were using waves of suicide bombers against Iraq Things were different back then ya just defeated your enemy's Now days to be politically correct the leftist a want you to wait till your bombed then take it to court with lawyers Only problem is the suicide bombers are dead too So they expect people to just get killed while they wait for trials to reach the courts In the mean time suicide bombers line up If this is the route the left wing wants to take I'm sure the terrorists would like to overwhelm our courts with thousands of cases The rest want preemption strikes. Why wait for them to kill a hundred people so you can prosecute a dead suicide bomber We already know he did it No trials necessary Find out whos sending them training them and pay them the same respect a hundred fold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Beer Tomorrow Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 We're supposed to believe "The Detroit Liberal Examiner" ???? Yea that sounds like an unbiased news source. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunshow2425 Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) We're supposed to believe "The Detroit Liberal Examiner" ???? Yea that sounds like an unbiased news source. Just google it. don't try to confuse people who don't check sources. There are many other sites that say it. And its based out of Colorado. Ay, yi, yi http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/odonnell-reagan-let-saddam-buy-and-use http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.html http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-and-iraq-go-way-back/ http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_america_helped_saddam_as_he_gassed_iran#sthash.Q1QE7q2b.dpbs Heres a few others Edited January 8, 2014 by Gunshow2425 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Beer Tomorrow Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 So now we know how G.W. Bush knew they had WMD's. We also know he was correct when he said they snuck them out of the country into Syria. Even though at the time people didn't believe him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Just google it. don't try to confuse people who don't check sources. There are many other sites that say it. And its based out of Colorado. Ay, yi, yihttp://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/odonnell-reagan-let-saddam-buy-and-usehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.htmlhttp://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-and-iraq-go-way-back/http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_america_helped_saddam_as_he_gassed_iran#sthash.Q1QE7q2b.dpbs Heres a few others. Ya but this topic states Ronald Reagan gave Hussein chemical weapons When the links you provide does not say that It says they knew saddam used them The USA didn't have chemical weapons to give to saddam Hussein The article is twisted lies from a left wing sludge tank The use of chemical weapons in war is banned under the Geneva Protocol of 1925, which states that parties "will exert every effort to induce other States to accede to the" agreement. Iraq never ratified the protocol; the United States did in 1975. The Chemical Weapons Convention, which bans the production and use of such arms, wasn't passed until 1997, years after the incidents in question. - See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_america_helped_saddam_as_he_gassed_iran#sthash.Q1QE7q2b.IOb3sZAF.dpuf They knew saddam used them just like they used them in Syria last year How are suicide bombers rated in this discussion That's what the Iranians were using against Iraq in the 80s Kinda like the Japanese comakozi Suicide bombers ok ChemicAl weapons bad I can make chemical weapons in my living room 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericaInc Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 September 10, 2013 , <---IT SAYS THIS DATE, BUT IT CAME OUT TODAY OUT OF THE WOODWORKS. It is important to remember times in history when the United States supplied dictators with weapons that are condemned today. The time is December 1983 near the middle of President Ronald Reagan's first term. Iran and Iraq are at war, and Iran is gaining the upper hand in the military struggle. In an effort to stave off Iranian Islamic dominance in the region President Reagan sent Donald Rumsfeld to broker a secret deal with Saddam Hussein. In the secret 90-minute meeting Rumsfeld arranged for Saddam Hussein to acquire sarin nerve gas, anthrax, bubonic plague, along with others. He also arranged for Iraq to receive billions of dollars in loans to pay for these weapons. How would Rumsfeld be able to do this? From the years 1977 to 1985 Donald Rumsfeld was the CEO of a major pharmaceutical corporation known as Searle & Company which, coincidentally enough, was sold to Monsanto in 1985. Records also show that then CIA Director William Casey personally involved himself in assisting funneling cluster bombs to Iraq through a foreign shell company. http://www.examiner.com/article/ronald-reagan-gave-saddam-hussein-chemical-weapons-to-fight-iran? Later in 1988 United States intelligence agencies alerted Iraq to Iranian troop movements, and Iraq responded with a barrage of chemical weapon attacks. This information remained sealed as a state secret until it was released by the State Department due to a Freedom of Information Act request. Ah. Nice to have a bit of "liberal" truth be told here on DV. As we can see from Lady Grace, unfortunately, this will be met with denial. This is called "realpolitik" and it's what is not on the mainstream news. Other "realpolitik" tidbits: Saddam was our man in Iraq. Bin Laden was on our payroll in Afghanistan. We had our hand in both sides of the Iran/Iraq war. Yes, we sold Saddam chemical weapons - do you think he could make them himself? Yes, lots of money exchanged hands with Saddam - war is the biggest business in the world. GW Bush met with Tony Blair of Britain before the Iraq war and discussed how to fool the American public with a false flag incident to start the war. (Downing Street memos) War is profitable - Especially when there are a lot of gullible people who have never read history willing to fight for "freedom." We're supposed to believe "The Detroit Liberal Examiner" ???? Yea that sounds like an unbiased news source. Yes. Better to listen to FOX... Which by the way is now BANNED from broadcasting in Canada to to their journalism laws....AMAZING!!!!!!! They actually have laws against LYING in Canada. At least come countries are civilized... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 The United States did not sell chemical weapons to anyone The United States didn't have any chemical weapons to sell to anyone Your going to have to show me something other than a headline from a liberal sludge pit 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISKY291 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 The United States did not sell chemical weapons to anyone The United States didn't have any chemical weapons to sell to anyone Your going to have to show me something other than a headline from a liberal sludge pit I fixed your neg. If anybody should ban a media site it should be CNN and MSNBC. These guys are a joke!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericaInc Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 . Ya but this topic states Ronald Reagan gave Hussein chemical weapons When the links you provide does not say that It says they knew saddam used them The USA didn't have chemical weapons to give to saddam Hussein The article is twisted lies from a left wing sludge tank The use of chemical weapons in war is banned under the Geneva Protocol of 1925, which states that parties "will exert every effort to induce other States to accede to the" agreement. Iraq never ratified the protocol; the United States did in 1975. The Chemical Weapons Convention, which bans the production and use of such arms, wasn't passed until 1997, years after the incidents in question. - See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_america_helped_saddam_as_he_gassed_iran#sthash.Q1QE7q2b.IOb3sZAF.dpuf They knew saddam used them just like they used them in Syria last year How are suicide bombers rated in this discussion That's what the Iranians were using against Iraq in the 80s Kinda like the Japanese comakozi Suicide bombers ok ChemicAl weapons bad I can make chemical weapons in my living room Wait a minute...the US didn't have chemical weapons? We created many of the worst chemical weapons - we were, and prob still are, at the forefront of research. Russian and the US, along with some Euro countries were the ones with these weapons at the time . Ya but this topic states Ronald Reagan gave Hussein chemical weapons When the links you provide does not say that It says they knew saddam used them The USA didn't have chemical weapons to give to saddam Hussein The article is twisted lies from a left wing sludge tank The use of chemical weapons in war is banned under the Geneva Protocol of 1925, which states that parties "will exert every effort to induce other States to accede to the" agreement. Iraq never ratified the protocol; the United States did in 1975. The Chemical Weapons Convention, which bans the production and use of such arms, wasn't passed until 1997, years after the incidents in question. - See more at: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/08/25/secret_cia_files_prove_america_helped_saddam_as_he_gassed_iran#sthash.Q1QE7q2b.IOb3sZAF.dpuf They knew saddam used them just like they used them in Syria last year How are suicide bombers rated in this discussion That's what the Iranians were using against Iraq in the 80s Kinda like the Japanese comakozi Suicide bombers ok ChemicAl weapons bad I can make chemical weapons in my living room "Kamikaze" means "Divine Wind" and is spelled as such. I love your research and analysis on the dinar, Dontlop. It's great. I suggest not venturing too far into media/political analysis- if you have been educated on FOX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Ya ok so you follow kooks like Lou colagiovanni and enjoy where you end up Do some reasearch on the guy who wrote this opinion article you pass off as news Show me where the us govt makes chemical weapons The only reasearch I know of is they make certain chemicals so they can make antidote incase these weapons were ever used on us citizens or military personal This article is bogus At the time I don't think so The us signed a chemical weapons ban in. 1975 The Iran war wasn't till the 1980s Ya I need to stand back for the expert claiming validity to a left wing crack pot Edited January 9, 2014 by dontlop 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Non of the articles say the us sold them chemical weapons only the title of the article says the USA sold saddam chemical weapons They are all referenced back to a Washington post article and it doesn't say the us sold saddam Hussein chemical weapons either During the 1980s there were no sanctions on Iraq American company's were free to sell anything there Most of the weapons were manufactured in Iraq the us was said to of supplied Iraq with one percent of its arsenal while France Italy Germany and Russia were saddams biggest suppliers The CIA document that was released only says the USA was providing saddam with satellite Imagery during the war and saddam was using chemical weapons The CIA document does not say that Rumsfeld supplied them it says he was at the time a successful executive at a pharmaceutical company So the left wing ran with it and said the us sold chemical weapons to saddam Hussein What a bunch of bogus bs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WISKY291 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Non of the articles say the us sold them chemical weapons only the title of the article says the USA sold saddam chemical weapons They are all referenced back to a Washington post article and it doesn't say the us sold saddam Hussein chemical weapons either During the 1980s there were no sanctions on Iraq American company's were free to sell anything there Most of the weapons were manufactured in Iraq the us was said to of supplied Iraq with one percent of its arsenal while France Italy Germany and Russia were saddams biggest suppliers The CIA document that was released only says the USA was providing saddam with satellite Imagery during the war and saddam was using chemical weapons The CIA document does not say that Rumsfeld supplied them it says he was at the time a successful executive at a pharmaceutical company So the left wing ran with it and said the us sold chemical weapons to saddam Hussein What a bunch of bogus bs Dontlop, this is how the far left rolls. It makes me sick. The Larry King guy needs to get his facts straight. I'm with you 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymrat76541 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I believe the story. During my years in the military we had to pull maintenance on lots of old chemical mortar shells and artillery shells from WWII. They still store them and keep them ready for use. Very hazardous work being that they are so old! We did the same for old nuclear rounds too. I wonder what they did will all the artillery shells since we no longer have 8" guns to shoot them? That sounds exactly like how our folks in Washington deal with foreign policy. Saddam was our friend one minute until he threatened our resources in Saudi. Then overnight he became our enemy. When will Washington learn that we can not buy everyone around the globe? We arm resistence fighters to battle nations that we are not allied with - only to find those same weapons shooting at US soldiers later. The United States of America is the number one arm's supplier in the world. Meanwhile at home, the tree huggers want to take away our guns! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 The United States Doesn't manufacture anything Businesses do We would which company makes chemical weapons if someone made them people talk and media loves to expose them Old chemical weapons ? I didn't think anyone would store live chemical weapons Even Syria mixes their precursors if they are going to use chemical weapons they don't store loaded chemical weapons This is what saddam did he bought precursors The things that sold seperatly are not anything but ingredients Why do ya think these left wing articles only talk about them when their articles only include republicans and their explainations are so vague They lead up to but never completely say anything that they would be liable for Typical liberal article Big bold letters Reagan gave saddam chemical weapons but when ya read the artical it doesn't say that It says that Rumsfeld was a successful pharmcutical executive at one time in his Life And they refer to a Washington post article who refers to a is document and neither say the words that Reagan gave "chemical weapons" to saddam The guy who wrote the article is a blogger That's it a blogger He made up the headline to his artical himself it came out a few months back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 It's how the left rolls They keep saying it and eventually they have the kids saying its reality They will only say it's been reported that Or it's been reported this But it never says that the reporting was twisted lies They build off each others twisted reporting each article adding a little more untruths Then the college kids really screw it up and lie like hell to the world and the rest of the world follows what these kids say It's just a mess that these people don't follow thru and do a little investigating of these people who wrote things like that They can't show anything. From anywhere that Reagan give Hussein chemical weapons yet the dope writes that as his title to get ratings Oh he knows everyone will read that And the more readers the more sponcers he gets That guy is garbage just like his artical who wrote that The headline is just to get readers to click on his post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fnews/940025/posts Read about Clinton what did that clown do for national security besides leave a national security disaster for bush 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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