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[Adam Montana] Morning everyone! Today's chat will be short and blunt... I'm hearing a lot of nonsense out of some of the Gurus out there, and this is one of those days when I don't have the patience for that nonsense...

[Adam Montana] Some of these clowns are saying that they have a new "code" and if you "say certain things" at the bank you will get a better rate. :facepalm:

[Adam Montana] This whole "IQN" thing, and the notion that if you take your dinar in and say "Hi this is IQN (not IQD) and I want to do an exchange for up to $20 per IQN"... if you're reading one of those chats or listening to it on a call, please do yourself a favor... leave that site or hang up on the call.

I be leave Tony is close to a room at the Hotel Silly straight jacket included.
I'am amazed their are sheeple who be leave this CRAZY TRAIN

ABOUT 2014, 2105 ETC.. RATES..
ITS ALL IN THE HISTORY BOOKS NOW
I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT
I KNOW MY SOURCES
WHERE THEY ARE….HOW CLOSE THEY ARE
AND YOU ARE GETTING DETAILS
BECAUSE OF THE TEAM OF INTEL GATHERERS I HAVE
ITS NOT JUST ME
SOME HAVE TO REMAIN NAMELESS…THREE LETTERS
AND RIGHT NOW IF I TOLD YOU WHO THEY WERE…WOULDN'T GET A MOMENTS PEACE
THAT'S WHY I LET IT ROLL OFF BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I KNOW

EVERYTHING IS DONE….DID GET CONFIRM..CANT' SHOW YOU IN WRITING
AND DID GET CONFIRM IN WASHINGTON AND SIGNED OFF BY THE PRES. THIS WEEK
AND ATTEMPTING TO GET IT DONE
EVERYONE ELSE, BIS, IMF ALL SIGNED IT OFF
ITS A PROCEDURE THING
AS OF YESTERDAY…..NO POLITICAL HOLDUP
TIME TO GO
WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE MOMENT YET
I EXPLAINED ON MONDAY THAT THE BANKS WERE STILL CATCHING PPL
CAUSE THE RATE WAS LIVE AND THEY LET PPL CASH OUT BEFORE THEY WERE AUTHORIZED TO DO SO
THERE WAS A NEW SECURITY SYSTEM PUT IN EFFECTIVE WED. EVE. OR THURS. MORNING
AND RE RAN THE SYSTEM
ALL THE SCREENS WENT BLANK…BROUGHT IT BACK UP
AND W/ THE NEW SECURITY FEATURE
THEY WERE BRINGING IT UP A REGION AT A TIME AND SECURED
AND IT STARTED SOUTH EAST…NORTH EAST….THEN WEST COAST
AND COMPLETED BY 11 O'CLOCK YESTERDAY
MAYBE TOO MUCH INFO…BUT I'LL STOP


THE SYSTEM WAS READY TO GO
THE NEXT PART …NOW THAT WAS DONE IS THE 800#S TO CALL ON
AND IT COMES FROM THE UST AND IT WORKS IN CONJUNCTION
STILL PROCEDURES TO FOLLOW AND THAT'S WHERE THEY RAN INTO A PROBLEM
THE PROCEDURES WERE NOT LINED UP AND WHAT TO DO W/ PPL
AND AT DIFF. AREAS WERE GOING TO SAY DIFF THINGS
CAN'T SAY TOO MUCH
SCHEDULED TO GO YESTERDAY..3 TIMES
WE WERE WITHIN COUPLE HOURS
NOTIFICATIONS WENT OUT…30 MIN….DIDN'T WORK
AND STILL TRYING TO GET IT DONE BEFORE BANKS CLOSED
DIDN'T MAKE IT

THEN TRY TO MAKE IT AFTER THE BANKS CLOSED
WE'LL SEE IF THEY DID TODAY…800'#S
EVEN THOUGH THEY SAID LETS DO IT
THE GUY UP HERE THOUGHT ABOUT IT
AND THE GUY ON THE BOTTOM SAID , WELL, YOU LEFT STEP, 3, 4 ETC..
WHEN THEY CALL THE 800#
SO TO MAKE IT SIMPLE..MACROS..THE STATE USES IT 
TO MAKE IT AUTOMATIC
BUT IF YOU SKIP A STEP NOW YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIX IT
AND MAKE EACH REGION HAS IT RIGHT AGAIN
NOT EACH BANK…BUT EACH REGION
SO THERE AREN'T DIFF. RATES AND PROCEDURES BEING FOLLOWED
I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT BUT ITS THE STEP IN THE PROCESS
YOU THINK YOU JUST GET AN 800#


HERE IS THE GOOD THING
THERE IS A TIME SCHEDULED FOR TODAY AND ITS NOT THIS MOMENT
BUT ITS COMING UP
THE NUMBERS..25.87…2.67…1.08 STILL SHOWING
THE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE SAYING THEY HAVE THE SAME RATES
ON THEIR TELLER SCREENS…IQN VERSUS USD
NOT THEIR CURRENCY….THEY SEE WHAT YOUR RATE IS
AND ITS THE SAME AS WHAT YOUR BANK IS SEEING
WE ARE THE ONLY ONES…THEY SEE OUR RATE IN THE SYSTEM
WHICH LETS US KNOW THAT WE ARE CLOSER TO THIS HAPPENING

WE DID HEAR THAT CONTRACTORS IN IRAQ
GOT FROM WASHINGTON
PPL THAT RUN THE COUNTRIES IN IRAQ…THE EMPLOYEES
WERE EXCHANGING FOR THE 25.87….AND IT STARTED YESTERDAY
BECAUSE IT WAS TO START HERE
I LIKE THAT
I DO KNOW AS OF THIS MORNING…DIGNITARIES - CALL THEM THAT
OR BETTER YET PPL OF PRIVILEGE WERE CASHED OUT AT A SPECIAL BANK FOR 25.87
SOME THOUGHT IT WAS A PLACE HOLDER RATE BUT ITS AN ACTUAL RATE PAYING OUT FOR 2 DAYS
JUST NOT US

WHEN DOES OUR TIME COME…..HOPEFULLY TODAY
BANK PPL WENT IN THIS MORNING
TOLD IF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BY 9AM THEY'D BE SENT HOME
TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK…WHEN WEST COAST BANKS OPEN
THEY HAVE BEEN RESTRICTED TO THE BUILDING
BECAUSE NO ONE KNOW THE EXACT MOMENT  THIS WILL GO ON
THEY ARE THERE AND READY FLORIDA, TEX, TENN, NEVADA,DC ....
ALL BEEN CALLED IN…ALL SECURITY CALLED IN FULLY MANNED FOR TODAY


ON WED. I TOLD YOU THEY'D BE WORKING WEEKENDS AND IT WAS TO BE LIVE NOW
I ALSO TOLD YOU ALL BANKS OPEN OR ALL BANKS CLOSED
THERE IS ONLY A WINDOW OF TIME  WHEN IT HAPPENS
AND I SHOULDN'T NEED TO TELL YOU…SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR
THE MONEY IS THERE…THE PPL ARE THERE…AND ITS READY TO GO


QUESTIONS********TONY READ THE QUESTIONS AND DID THE ANSWERS
TELL ME THE DIFF. BETWEEN PRIVATE PLACEMENT AND GROUPS?
PP WAS PUT TOGETHER W/ PPL FROM WF AND CHINA,  18 PAGE CONTRACT, ----I LIKE THAT ITS 18 PAGES AND TELLS YOU UP FRONT, WHAT THE TAX WILL BE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET,  IF THERE WAS EVER ONE THAT I'D GO WITH - THIS IS THE ONE -- MORE THAN SOMEONE SAYING YOU ARE GETTING A GREAT RATE......AND NO INFO..... BUT YOU CAN'T PROVE IT TO ME....
? WHY SHOULD I GET A CCF,  
WELL IF YOU GO OUT AND TRY TO TRANSFER $ AND IT GOES FROM BANK TO BANK - OVER A CERTAIN AMT.  YOU CAN GIVE IT TO THEM - SO IT DOESN'T HOLD UP YOUR TRANSFER,  FROM BANK TO BANK AND BANK TO ESCROW, GET AT LEAST 20 COPIES
? WHEN I OPEN A NIB FOR IQN, HOW LONG TILL I OPEN THE 2ND
I'M DOING MINE THE SAME DAY,  IF I GO TO AN EXCHANGER, I'M DOING IT THAT DAY AND WIRING IT RIGHT OUT,  AND NEVER USE THAT ACCT ONLINE OR THE CARD ONLINE,  BUT THE MONEY WILL SIT BY ITSELF AND USE A SMALLER ACCT.  SO NO ONE HAS ACCESS TO THAT BUT INSIDE THE BANK, EVEN BANK TELLERS WILL NOT
? CUT OFF BELOW 9% ON CAPITAL GAINS?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION
? HR77 IN CONGRESS, DEC. 31, 2013, ISN'T LAW YET
DOESN'T MATTER TO US GUYS, YOU'RE MONEY WILL BE TRANSFERRED BY NOW... UNLESS YOU DO IT NEXT YEAR, OR AFTER JAN, YOU'LL GET A MUCH LOWER RATE, MUCH LOWER, DON'T KNOW IF ITS WORTH YOU WAITING
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE ABOUT CHANGING IT TO ANOTHER CURRENCY, EVEN FRANK CAME ON AND SAID 'DIRECTED' TO CHANGE TO US CURRENCY FIRST
? IF WE DON'T GET 8003S BY THEN, CAN POTUS ... AND DEBT CEILING

UNTIL ITS LIVE, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, 3 SIGNATURES NEEDED AND 3 SIGNATURES CAN TAKE IT BACK, RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT AND PUSHING IT FORWARD
TAKING THE SENATE VOTE, SEE HOW THAT GOES, DON'T THINK ITS PART OF THE DEBT CEILING, SO ITS NOT PART OF THAT CONVO
? IF RATES HAVE MOVED TO TELLER SCREENS WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT
THEY DON'T WANT A MASS OF PPL TO GO - CERTAIN LOCATIONS - DON'T RUN TO EVERY BANK - THERE IS A METHOD TO THE MADNESS -- THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT THE PLAN IN MOTION, ITS NOT SIMPLE DEALING WITH 4 MILLION THAT WANT TO GO TO THE BANK TODAY
AND ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
ITS NOT JUST ABOUT YOU
? PLEASE ASK IF WE HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO FED WIRE
MOST BANKS ARE NOT DIRECTLY CONNECTED, THEY GO TO A REGIONAL AND THEN THE FED, 
? I HEAR THE RELEASE WON'T COME TILL THE NEW 100 BILL IS IN CIRCULATION, AND THE HYPE ABOUT THE NOTES? ITS DIGITAL
TELL ME, WHY DO WE NEED TO WAIT, FOR A NEW 100 BILL, IN ORDER FOR THE RV TO COME OUT, OR THE GLOBAL RESET, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW IT SAYS FED. RES. ACROSS IT
THE WORLD ISN'T CHANGING ON OCT. 8
ITS ALREADY BEING CHANGED
DON'T AGREE AND DON'T SEE RATIONAL BEHIND IT
IT IS ALL DIGITAL
NOT LIKE FROM THAT MOMENT ON, OUR IQN, OR VNN IS IN HUNDRED DOLLAR BILLS
? DO WE NEED RECEIPTS TO EXCHANGE AT A BANK
NO  ALL THEY CARE IS THAT IT IS A CURRENCY EXCHANGE, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO AN EXCHANGER YOU NEED THEM, THEY GET AUDITED BY THE UST AND THEY NEED THEIR PAPERWORK
? HOW ARE OTHER COUNTRIES SEEN THE RATE
]
? SPREADS
WE TALKED ABOUT SPREADS, AND TO NEGOTIATE AT THE BANK, GETTING MONEY, GETTING INTEREST IN THE MONEY AND OTHERS ARE GETTING RESTRICTIONS, SO YOU CAN NEGOTIATE, THE FEE, THERE IS NO FEE -- NOT ME ANYWAY
? WHERE DID THE CONCEPT OF ASKING FOR A CURRENCY EXCHANGE ORIGINATE?
IT ORIGINATED AT THE BANKS AND THE UST.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT,  I WOULD SAY CURRENCY EXCHANGE MYSELF.
? WILL WE BE ABLE TO EXCHANGE ONE NOTE ONCE THE RV IS RELEASED
DONT' KNOW UNTIL THE PROCEDURES ARE RELEASED
YOU CAN ALWAYS DO THE VNN, BUT WILL LET YOU KNOW
? WILL THERE BE A DIFF. TAX ON THE IQN, IS THERE A POINT THE EXCHANGE BECOMES AN INVESTMENT
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POINT IS, JUST HEARD 2 DAYS AGO, GOT IT FROM DC. THAT IF YOU MAX OUT, OR ABOVE, THAT RATE THAT THERE WILL BE A DIFF. TAX BRACKET, DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT WILL WORK AND HEARD IT FROM SOMEONE WHO SHOULD KNOW, AND ONCE THEY DID THE NUMBERS THEY'LL KNOW THE RETURN, DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT YES, DID HEAR IT,  THOSE THAT GOT GREEDY WILL PAY MORE TAXES THAN THOSE THAT TOOK THE BASIC RATE
THE RATE IS 25.87
WHO EVER THOUGHT THEY'D GET THAT
WITHOUT GROUPS OR SPECIAL DEALS
THAT'S THE BASE RATE AS OF THIS MOMENT
YOU CAN GO TO ANY OF THEM AND GET THAT RATE
ANS SUPPOSEDLY ABOVE THAT - TAXED DIFF.
BUT CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU UNTIL I GET IT
AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE EVERYONE RUNS TO THE BANK
DON'T THINK ITS FINALIZED
ANYONE OVER THAT RATE
THE RICH GET RICHER
NEW TAX PLAN FOR THAT
? SOMETIMES IT SOUNDS LIKE ONLY THE BIG 4, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MOM AND POPS?
WE TALK ABOUT THE BIG 4, BUT THE LITTLE ONES ARE STILL IN PLACE
AND THE 800# IS TO REFER YOU TO THOSE OPTIONS, BASED ON THE ZIP CODE AND THE OPTIONS... DOES IT WORK IN EACH REGION, TELLING YOU ITS MORE COMPLICATED AND REMEMBER THEY JUST ADDED MOM AND POPS,  PUT THE MACROS IN,  IT DIDN'T WORK AND THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM, DIDN'T WANT PPL DRIVING 2, 3HOURS... 

LIVE Q & A

c- how you doing?
t- super fantastic
c- super fantastic
t- do it again
c- super fantastic
c- if the banks in Hawaii has to be open, its only 2 hours 
t- time to activate is 2 hours, but all them be open after that, NON DINARIANS will be going
c- so the banks there -- the window hasn't started on the EST coast, till after 3pm
t- good math
c- so when we get off the call, we'll know by 3pm
t- we won't know - the window doesn't open till 3pm
c- so we'll get a blast or text
t- hope so, but until that time, relax
c- wife told me to go to the gym
t- work it out
c- so the window each day is 3- 6
t- well that's when they are opened
t- but they have to be open or closed
c- well...
t- 11 your time
c- they can activate up to 11
T- NO, IF IT DOESN'T GO BETWEEN 3 AND 5
THEN THE NEXT TIME IS AFTER 11 EST, WHEN ALL BANKS ARE CLOSED
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ACTIVATE IT
THEN IT RUNS FOR 24 HOURS
WHEN THEY'RE ALL OPEN
OR ALL CLOSED
BETWEEN 5 AND 11 YOU SHOULD NOT SEE IT
IF IT HASN'T HAPPENED BY THEN - IT PROLLY WOULDN'T
c- what are they saying in the Mosques
t- don't know
t- Wed. they came back out and had on there about the currency revaluing - that was Wed.
t- maybe I'll put something on the board
c- so contractors cashing out at----the ppl on the street,
t- told that some were getting cashed out at that rate
t- just like not everyone in DC got cashed out yesterday, but some did at that rate ( 25.87 )
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BEFORE WE START I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT W/ THE INFO
THESE ARE THE SAME PPL THAT TOLD US THE 3 ZEROS WERE COMING OFF
AND THESE ARE THE SAME PPL THAT TOLD US THE CARDS WERE LOADED
AND THE OTHER SITES SAID NO
THEN A FEW DAYS LATER THEY SAID YES THEY ARE
THESE ARE THE SAME PPL
YOU CAN HAVE AS MUCH CONFIDENCE AS I DO
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c-good morning, good morning. good morning
c- told me your sticks... ( talking cigars )
t- smoke digas and nubs and ....   
c- here is the question and wanted to fly to Iraq - couldn't I exchange through a buddy over 13303, 
t- you can't bring the currency into the country and if you exchanged you can't bring it out,  
c- is this, amazing, the 26th the 10 year anniversary,  rv'd in country, went from 3.44 to 25.87, 
did they start the countdown
t- not starting it till we go to the bank
t- they started paying it out yesterday, because they were absolutely sure we'd be paid out yesterday, notified that they had 2 hours to go, then 30 min. to go, so they had no problems paying ppl out,  not everyone got paid out, but they got it started because this was to happen -- haven't heard about --- they can check if someone is listening,  if they are paying out today, and check that out on the call and send me the text
c- today's good too
c- tomorrow, both heard back wall, IMF put us at 3.44
t- i heard that they have till Monday the 30th, but even then, its not the first time or the last time, they want the higher rate and its in the system and its been signed off and the banking system has been redone and protected, so now it comes down to procedures and the bottom rung of how to control the masses, if the guy at the ph doesn't know...
c- the 3 ppl signing is the 3rd CL.
t- no, 3 in the us gov.
c- don't know who the 3rd one is
c- get er done
c- thanks for the blasts
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c- do you recommend that we take an atty with us - to make sure the docs are correct?
t- guys, at 25.87 i just need to exchange my money, but if you are doing something else, NDA's... etc.. yes, but....
but i just don't need anyone but me -- its a basic rate, don't charge me any fee's -- anything about that, or the other situations, i absolutely would, anytime someone wants me to sign an NDA......
c- do you think it can happen on a Sat.
t- I think it can happen on a Sat. or Sunday
c- so no holdups, just waiting for the #s
t- pretty much, just waiting for the 800#s
c- doing the happy dance
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c- do you know of a 3rd rate 
t- third rate????
c- like you talked about the base rate and ceiling rate?  third rate?
t- sure they have rates in between, but don't know flat out
c- no above the 25.87
t- oh yeah, the ceiling is above the 25.87
c- so why do we --- that's what they give us
t- if you say IQN that is the rate you will get
c- you told us that you'd come back and tell us the ceiling rate you got
t- told me they'd get mad if i do that
t- i felt i could do that
t- you will still have to negotiate it or convince them of it
t- on Wed. I got from DC,  here is what they told me
t- don't do that
t- it could almost triple your tax
t- they want it reserved for special circumstances and ppl,  if you ask, they'll give it to you, but prepare to pay the tax,
t- but man, i might do it anyway
t- there are consequences with everything,  greedy, but that's why they are saying go w/ what we've given them,  can't tell you what to do, don't know what the real rate will be
t- heard 1, 2%, put in a bill to do 9.38% tax and it hasn't been passed and actually hearing, if you take the top rate, it will be almost 40% so have enough money to afford to do it, not written in stone yet, the info is out there, things change constantly
c- all that glitters is not gold
t- absolutely, if you don't know what comes attached to it, you may not want it
c- have a good tax lawyer, get him involved
t- i know a little bit about taxes and a lot about not paying taxes, and let me tell you this right here, one put out Int'l atty and he was going to make sure its not taxable at all,  3 problems
1. he's an Int'l lawyer 2. lawyer period, and 3rd he can fight all he wants, but if you don't pay the taxes YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL and his lawsuit... can take 20 years... this amt. of money, and 50,000 new ppl to do audits and you can be one of them,  I'm not playing with them myself
c- I was told all the UST ppl were sent home and they were told that - this had to go down on a Tues. Wed. and Thurs.  you said it could happen today, take you at your word
t- lot of ppl felt it was always the plan and the best banking days to work with....
t- but the reality is of where we are at now, they don't care about any of it... just push it
t- if that was the case, someone else brought it up,  i see on the board all the time, or intel guru's saying it doesn't make sense that the bank would call the ppl in....
t- guys the banks have been doing this by the direction of the UST for reasons to go through the motions to catch ppl and even right now, they're doing it when they are told to do it and get ready to do it, is it really happening - I gave you the 5 regions, they have ppl physically at the call centers and the cash out locations and I've talked to ppl at the cash out and i know where some of them are already, and tired and frustrated like we are, and get paid over time and get hyped up like we do real scenario and if it wasn't going on, how does our info match up w/ the other guru's saying yep, that's what I'm hearing.   If it wasn't true.
t- to me I like seeing it and as our group gets together, it lets us know how much higher our info is, and now today when it comes out, everyone will believe it, or this close to the process, that they guy that said 2014, or 2016, you'll see how far behind, most of the stuff they told you was that far behind....sooner or later it always catches up.. and they catch up..

SENATE VOTES…NOTHING NEW IN THAT…EXACTLY WHAT WE EXPECTED
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c- super fantastic day
t- that's what i like
c- so it wouldn't happen today till the banks open in Hawaii
t- so when we discuss, we don't know if Hawaii is included, but the time I was given is after 3
c- or when they're all closed
t- that's it
t- either all open or all closed, so whether its east and west, but the time frame includes Hawaii
c- great job, great ppl, lets get er done
IF YOU GUYS HAVEN'T NOTICED
THE MODS ARE GETTING FRUSTRATED
BECAUSE THERE ARE AS SMALL NUMBER OF MODS
AND 18K OF YOU
10,000 IN THE CHAT ROOM
AND
SO THEY ARE IN FACT FRUSTRATED
TOLERANCE LEVEL IS LOW
AND ALOT OF PPL
BANNED PERMANENTLY
YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY HAVE YOUR OPINION
WITH OUT CONFRONTATIONS
SILLY COMMENTS
HISTORY OF YOUR COMMENTS
AND WHEN ITS TIME FOR YOU TO GO
TIME TO GO
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE DO IT
THERE ARE OTHER SITES THAT WILL AGREE WITH YOU
MAKES MORE SENSE FOR YOU TO GO TO THOSE SITES
MAKES NO SENSE TO ME
PPL THAT CAME FROM OTHER SITES
THAT DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT I HAD TO SAY
COME HERE AND HEAR ME
THEN TO SAY
I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO IT FOR 2 YEARS
AND YET YOU SIGNED UP 2 DAYS AGO
DO YOU THINK WE NOT KNOW WHERE YOU CAME FROM?
EITHER YOU SEE IT AND WANT TO DISCUSS IT
OR WASTING TIME
DON'T NO WHY AN INTELLIGENT PERSON WOULD DO THAT
EVEN THOUGH I HEARD WE'RE NOT INTELLIGENT
LOL
TAKING LESS AND LESS
WORKING MORE
APPRECIATE THEM..LOVE THEM AND THEY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS THAT HELP THEM OUT
OK, NOW BACK TO THE QUESTIONS

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c- this should all be done by the 1st correct
t- hearing that it should be - hearing there was a big push yesterday and kept bringing them in and it didn't go - can't do the dishes 
T-- HE SAID THAT WAS YOU
PAM - I'M MUTED AND YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T DO DISHES ANYMORE...
T- LOL
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c- Canada, and called Michigan and tried to get things organized and called all the banks
c- what do we do
t- you are in Canada, across from Michigan
t- ask Pam - she has the back roads and river crossings,  
c- called Chase and WF and BofA and asked for financial advisers or Wealth Management
c- all of them said - they don't know what I'm talking about
t- you have to wait for the 800#
t- you'll have to give them a Michigan zip code to know where you are going
t- if I were you, go on the forum site and click on the International thread and they'll tell you there is an exchanger in Canada, I'd do that instead of sneak money across the border
c- said my password doesn't work
t- sign up again, create a new acct.
c- for the dong, several involved and bought dongs
c- what do we do, she said today, 10 ppl came in here and bought dongs, and asked her if anything changed,  and exchanged it today,  so we would lose money
t- i recommend that you wait till it revalues
c- will it be the same as the US
t- if you are asking for US dollars, but  if you ask for Canadian dollars, its the Canadian rate
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JUST GOT WORD FROM CONTRACTORS….PAYMENTS TO CONTRACTORS PUT ON HOLD UNTIL OUR RELEASE….ON HOLD…FIND OUT MORE
SO I WAS CORRECT THAT THEY STARTED PAYING OUT BECAUSE OF OUR RELEASE EXPECTED YESTERDAY
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c- how are you 
t- SUPER DUPER
c- my first time to talk to you
t- my first time to talk to you too
c- for the Indonesian Rupiah is is IDN
t- yes IDN
c- can't move our money for 6 months?
t- that's not what I said
t- YOU GO MAKE YOUR DEPOSIT TODAY, YOU CAN SPEND IT TODAY AS LONG AS YOU DO IT ON YOUR OWN, BUT GROUPS HAD RESTRICTIONS FOR HIGHER RATES, BUT ON YOUR OWN, FOR 25.87 I CAN DO THAT ON MY OWN.... 
c- for NIB ACCT. is that so the banks can't play with our money
t- yes, and its not at risk until you decide
c- you'll let us know more, or put us in a dangerous situation of higher taxes, I don't have mine for over a year
t- that's a diff. scenario,  short term or long term,  but a diff. tax rate if you go over the 25.  but if you go to the max level, a diff. tax rate
c- thank you for you and the  MODS, you are a blessing
t- they deal with this all day, but they go in shifts and it gets frustrated, they work hard, thank you
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c- few ?s,  exchange company's, ie. Sterling, DC, is it ok to wire from them or pick it up
t- I'm sure its ok to wire, its your money
t- if you are going to a bank or them, if the rate goes out the same, just go onto the computer and say send me the money -- don't have to use the 800#, don't have to make an appt. etc...and then just have the $ show up in your bank acct. and don't have to negotiate w/ the banks... or go in and say I have this big deposit what are you going to do for me -- at the bank, but over 500K  wires.... it doesn't have to happen on day 1, it can be day 2, 
picking it up will be harder than getting it wired,  appts. fly to you - fly to them, then get your bank appt. etc... 1st day, 2nd day great, but other than that -- long line of ppl
c- if I flew there, could I bank in that State -- or wire it, to the bank where I'm doing it at
t- you can go down there, and open a bank in any state,  you can give your address and open an out of state bank acct. and wire it back home....
c- when the 800#s come out, what you have in your possession already, say you want to go downtown, not your neighborhood, how does it work
t- they'll ask your info and the zip code, again, so there are not 5000 going to one bank and 100 to the other bank, and that's where the system was being ..... they didn't count on it.. that's why they need the zip code
t- if i don't want to go to a bank near my house, give them the zip code I'm dealing with
c- ty
c- very new to this, started listening a couple days ago,  if its 25.00 for every dinar i have
t- 25K, for a thousand dinar
c- you just made my day
c- do you think its wise to open a trust acct.
t- I'll answer yours after you answer my 
c- better tonight
c- this changes everything
t- trust accounts are for a purpose, protection, lawsuits - not necessarily for tax benefits, i will have several for the protection they give you, trusts and foundations, and if you don't believe it, i want to relate to you, the US gov. were coming after Bill Gates ans his wife when he had 120B , but today he has 60B,  where did the rest go, the Bill Gates foundation, the Melinda Gates foundation
c- awesome,  I have physical
c- is there a rush
t- if you can set it up ahead of the time, it doesn't have to be done the moment you walk into the bank, you'll have time as you learn more about it
don't worry -- if you don't get it done the very next day
c- so no rush if you have the currency-
t- no rush, but don't wait months, if ppl know you have money they can slip and fall in your kitchen
t- put your property in a trust, the autos' in a trust, the bank acct in a trust,  but if they come after you , ppl w/ means do this, and you can have an Umbrella....
c- new but love it... thanks
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HEY JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW
PAM, DECLARED ZERO TOLERANCE IN THE CHAT ROOM THIS MORNING
AND DIDN'T MEAN WHITE YOU OUT
PAM---- WARN SILENCE KICK AND BAN
SHE'S BANNING FROM NOW ON, SHE'S REACHED HER LIMIT TODAY
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c- thanks you made Friday a wonderful day
t- you have a super fantastic day
PAM WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING
IN THE CHAT ROOM
ITS TOUGH WHEN YOU HAVE 
1K - 2K MODS
AND REALLY APPRECIATE
THAT SOME ARE AMAZING MEMBERS
AND THIS MORNING SOME
STARTED POOPING ON OUR PARTY
TONY;  LOL, A LITTLE GRAPHIC
PAM: NOPE, CLEANED IT UP TONY
TONY: - ZERO TOLERANCE ZONE
PAM - ZERO TOLERANCE

hold on
TONY
THE MODS IN THE FORUM
CAN NOT UNDO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE CHAT
DIFFERENT MODS IN THE FORUM
THAN IN THE CHAT
WITH THE EXCEPTION
OF ALREADY BLESSED
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c- relatively new - 5 months,  recent excitement, did research - educate myself, history repeats,  i want it to happen and went to the archives and saw you , Okie's posts from the beginning at recaps,  seems to me that in 2011 the posts are ver batim for why the RV didn't happen, and the pres. signed off, employees call in, the only thing I could find was the rates are different,  and June 30, 2011 - the rates are done, its done,  why is this different 2013, 
t- how long are you involved ?
c- 3 months
t- you just bought your dinar 3 months ago
t- and you went back 3 years and read all the posts I made
c- yep, basically whats the history on this, bought it based on other folks, could be an opportunity, I trust you, but scares me, not as well versed, you are living it, but what scared me,  worry me, some of the posts are literally ver batim
t- let me ask you a ?, why did you get into it, 
c- profit
t- someone had to tell you and convince you - the deciding factor
c- profit bearing mechanism
t- so you did it w/out research and did it on faith, and someones word
c- not arguing - i think its going to happen
t- not arguing at all, what process did you go through to make the decision to get involved
c- stocks etc.. loss or profit, ppl that I respect and invested in the past and their track record, they are solid ppl and if i lose ok, and if i win, ok, wow, do we win, the cost risk didn't take a brain surgeon
c- so if you did the same thing i did,  in 2011 and now, same posts, not 2012, was diff. mostly talked about laws,  but in 2011,  airplanes, trains and ppl giving birth,  trying to figure out, whats the diff. today 2013
t- i understand your question and I'll give you the answer
t- dinar recaps has been following me since then and has all that there, good book,  
c- 6/30/11 is when it starts
t- that's ok,  but want to understand where we are coming from and if you took the time to do it, I'd do it before, like i did, and researched it, before - the history itself and what our Pres. did and what makes it diff. from 2,3 years ago, we have alot more knowledge than then, our level of intelligence has grown since then, and we still have things that we don't know and our puzzle becomes more complete, and things our gov. was doing to catch ppl, what Iraq was doing and it always looked that way, and then Man, if we knew they had to do this, ... from our lower level intel sources all the way to the sources we have know... makes the picture clearer and now we say the laws are passed, why - because I know the ppl that were in the room -- I know the LD's were sent, I have the tail # of the plane, the black suv's on the tarmac and the palates, and how much on the palates, we had ppl in the process, it grew over the years, so that now I can give info that is 2, 3 weeks ahead of everyone else, its a growth
c- makes sense, a maturation of events
c- seeing on the boards, and folks talking about silver, alternative 
t- I'm putting my money in money
t- don't do long term things, but will absolutely tell you that RayRen has been trading silver for 20 years and has mad a lot of money and believes in it,  I don't do long term... 
c- IPO's  thanks appreciate your time
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c-how are you how are you
t- super fantastic super fantastic
c- appreciate you and already blessed and the others
c- can you explain double dipping
t- there will be none of that,  well, here is the problem - i can explain it and tell you how to do it, step 1 - 10 but if you miss a step in between you'll lose
t- can't educate you on this ph call and lose all that you have
t- don't put what you have at risk
t- i have a larger threshold for pain
c- 1 more ? - my first time - hold up - say I put dinar on layaway and did a 45 day layaway, and do 5 % and have 7 days to put your 5% -- and lets say it RV'd on my birthday on Oct. 1, and got $ that I cashed in from my VNN and paid my layaway - is that double dipping
c- thank you - listen to me one more time
c- I haven't put my 5% down on my layaway and have 7 days to come up with it, and the RV happened and take money from my VNN - and 
t- wait we have a bigger problem
t- you put in an order on a 45 day layaway
and they say you have 7 days to pay it???
c- yep, on sterling
t- but its not effective until you make the payment
t- if you havent' made the payment on the day it RV's - will be wiped out
t- i thought you meant a rollover
t- but if you paid zero and the RV happens the order is cancelled
c- ok,  
c- so I have to pay the 5%
t- as long as you already paid it
FRANK CALLED ME 2 DAYS AGO
EVEN IF YOU PUT IN AN ORDER TODAY
AND IF ITS PAID TODAY
AND ITS DATE STAMPED TODAY
THEY WILL KEEP IT GOING
THERE IS 7 DAYS IN FOR THE ORDER
IF IT RV'D THAT DAY
THAT'S W THE 30 DAY OR 45 DAY
THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT
IS IF THE LAYAWAY RUNS OUT TODAY
AND THE RV IS TODAY
AND YOU HAVEN'T SENT THE $$
TO PAY IT OFF
OR ROLLOVER
THE BEST THING
IS TO DO  A SELL ORDER--OR
YOU'RE RESERVE WILL BE LOST
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c- ? about state taxes, if we live in one of the states ie. TX, is it predicated on the drivers license we live in or the state that we are doing the exchange in
t- based on the state you LIVE IN
t- they don't care where you cash money out, you just did an exchange, its based on the currency exchange
c- hallelujah
c- ty
c- now it will be super fantastic
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MONTANA WAS REALLY SICK YESTERDAY,  IF YOU DON'T SEE A TRANSCRIPTION TODAY, YOU'LL KNOW SHE WAS REALLY SICK YESTERDAY.... 
PAM:  SHE'S TRANSCRIBING
T- SHE IS?
PAM - SHE'LL APPRECIATE IT IF YOU DON'T GO TOO LONG.
c- how close to sterling getting that rate
t- I can't see how it would work any other way, besides they have the staring point so it mus be, they are getting it in Iraq - exchange rate,  but just sit down at the bank, give me my money and lets go
c- will the bank keep money and make off of it, and get a lower rate at sterling, because they can't do it
t- not a lower rate, they can't negotiate off the rate but think the base rate will come out the same
c- dong too
t- dong as well
t- dial the # and have your strategy out there
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c- miss aisliln, got an email if you were a Christian, you don't have to pay taxes, if you go for crap like that - you can look to go to jail, absolutely ridiculous,  these ppl are pit bulls not shitzuz's
c- another thing -- ppl that go from site to site, they have a potential to become a PILLAR OF SALT for looking back and the GREEDY FOLKS TRYING TO GET MORE THAN 25.87
COME ON!!!!!!!!  GET ON WITH MY LIFE!!!
C- is there a limit on how many cashier's checks... but have a little group and have some folks, 
t- not that I know of
c- got a couple of them that say they want all in cash
t- let me ask you first, if they get the cashiers check,  what they going to do w/ it?
c- going to the bank,  lol
t- lol
c- i bought all my currency from the dealer
c- they always send it w/ a certificate of authenticity, should have a problem, learned a long time ago, don't let the money out of my site, like a hostage exchange...lol
t- don't know every company, they can all print up a certificate, but you have your certificate and have your order and there will be a value and the FBI will absolutely get involve
c- GID ASSOCIATES,  long time...
c- don't want to be on ABC, CBS, AND FOX
t- don't know, can't say either way, sterling sends certificates, don't think you have anything to worry about
c- another issue w/ security
c- member had a lady out of the blue, walk up to her, that your fixen to cash out, someone else in the group - couldn't keep their mouth shut, could stalk you , could be really terrible, first lesson i learned, be quiet - shut up
c- learned something new today PAM IS THE POWER BEHIND TNT DINAR and she keeps you in line,  she and your wife,  those are the powers.. One tells me what to do and one tells me what to say
c- ty and the mods too, enjoyed the historical event, never happen again in my life time
it takes patience and time, its coming to you
t- ty
OK GUYS ITS 2 HOURS AND MONTANA IS HARD AT WORK W/ THE OTHER TRANSCRIBERS
AND HOPING WE DO A CALL THIS EVE…I'M READY FOR IT
IT WILL NOT BE BEFORE 3…ITS ALMOST 3 NOW
LOL
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS
THEY ARE READY TO GO…TELLING THEIR PPL ITS ALL DONE
THEY'RE PUSHING IT
IT DOES RELY ON THEIR SYSTEM NOW….NO POLITICAL HOLDUPS
GOT THAT FROM EVERYBODY
AND AT ANY MOMENT…AND AT ANY DAY
WE SHOULD HAVE S SUPER FANTASTIC WEEKEND
RIGHT NOW
NOW THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO HAPPEN
NOV. DEC. DON'T LISTEN
THEY ARE TYING TO DO IT RIGHT NOW
FROM THE HIGHEST LEVEL..FROM THE BANKING…UST…IMF…4 OTHER COUNTRIES
BEING NOTIFIED ON THE RATES ON THE SCREENS….CAN'T GET ANY MORE CLOSER
THAN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENING
HOPE FOR THE BEST AND LOOKING FOR IT
IF SOMETHING SLIPS OUT AND I'LL ABSOLUTELY TELL PAM AND LET YOU KNOW
OR I'LL DO A BLAST
HAVE A GREAT DAY

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SamDinar Newbie

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It is fun reading that Dinar Recrap site, Okie is 70 some odd years old and claims to be up in the air somewhere trying to land, he`s been up there for the longest time and should be out of gas! However he is Tony`s buddy so he believes him, meanwhile, Jester, Mtn. Goat and others, do not agree with what that loony toons guy claims, they are staring to unravel and our boy seems to get wackier and wackier ! I love it, they are losing any creditbility they might have had ! I hope the sheeple realize them for the whack job most of them are now!! ha aha ha

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ReinMan Newbie

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Hey Tony and others, post a scan of the CE receipt,

STOP THE HYPE, SHOW ME DON'T TELL ME.

 

 

Fave Judge Judy quote.... 

"Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining sir!"

My mom watches her and I can't stand the bad vibes Judy fills the room with when I visit.

 

Oh, so Jesus told you the RV is this week?

Here let me nail your wrists to this block of wood for your blatant lies.

 

Here's my WF bank story:

Official and real position is they're not prepping for SQUAT.

Biz as usual. 

Talked to my local currency dude today.

He said they're not doing anything with the dinar.

"Got calls for that huh?"

"Yeah."

(i was ordering other currency and HE brought that line.)

 

So suck it gurus, it's not DONE till the tellers see a live rate.

 

WHAT WILL BE THE EXCUSE NEXT WEEK?

"It's a long process,,,,,," and other assorted long-winded articles.

 

Stay grounded my friends......

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millionaire in training

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I cant believe that with all that we've been put through in the news (Iraqi) that people still follow these gurus and even find them entertaining.

 

I didnt bother reading the article it was way too long ( a waist of time) just wanted to see what you all had to say about it.   But why would someone find these liars entertaining is beyond me.   :shrug:

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Hello everyone. I have posted very little here but I was shocked to see that Okie & friend Tony are "scammers" paid by a dealer that I have bought IQD's from and wonder now If I was wrong to do so. My husband and I are in our 70's and he is still working. Our hope is than when the RV happens he can finally retire. But now, we are very sad and skeptical. I believe Adam more than anyone else. I started with a small amount to buy IQD and then my husband bought more. We have been waiting since 2005. Now, I pray we didn't make a big mistake. God bless us all.

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Hello everyone. I have posted very little here but I was shocked to see that Okie & friend Tony are "scammers" paid by a dealer that I have bought IQD's from and wonder now If I was wrong to do so. My husband and I are in our 70's and he is still working. Our hope is than when the RV happens he can finally retire. But now, we are very sad and skeptical. I believe Adam more than anyone else. I started with a small amount to buy IQD and then my husband bought more. We have been waiting since 2005. Now, I pray we didn't make a big mistake. God bless us all.

You didnt make a mistake, your just in long term investment, in my opinion. The worst case is (for all us), you will lose some of your money but not all of it. The worst for you in my mind, is you wont get to retire the way you and your husband had dreamed, along with me and many others. I dont think we have made a mistake. We have bought a currency gambling it will RV at a higher rate than what we bought it at. Its business. This is what made America the greatest country in the history of the world. This is my opinion, I have no intel, boots on the ground, no three letter agencies or any other B.S. these scuttlebutters put out. I think we are maybe three to five years out, still before this thing RV's. I really Hope I'M Wrong. This is what I have prepared myself for mentally. This is why I don't get upset. If it looks like it(RV) may go past my prediction, I might sell out. Right now I'm ridin this horse till it dies! P.S. I dont know why you would be shocked that two are crooks.If you been in this since 2005 by 2006 the were recycling their lies, no disrespect. Just hang with Adam and the people here and we will all get through this B.S. together. :twocents:

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I've been in this for a few years, along with someone close to me. It didn't take me long to figure out who the "gurus" were and that they're full of crap. At this point, just hearing the name, "Tony," makes me cringe. My friend who is highly intelligent, or at least, I used to think so, has lost their mind when it comes to listening to Tony. His entire life now revolves around these "conference calls" that are just about everyday. About a year or so ago, he had given me the number to one of the calls and I listened for a few minutes, which is all I could take. Speaking in code about three letter agencies, basically saying nothing about nothing. Every week, my friend thinks it's here because Tony has called it but then somehow it always gets delayed, I've now heard every crazy excuse you can make up as to why it hasn't happened, yet. The latest rate from Tony is around $25.87 and my friend believes this crap. I have tried repeatedly to reason with my friend about Tony, other 'gurus,' conference calls... it doesn't matter, my friend has lost it. I realize that my friend is a fool for falling for this but at the same time, I am disgusted with "Tony" and the others for the lies and scamming money from people blinded by their desperation and in my friend's case, also greed.

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ha ha! That graphic is perfect. I realized from the beginning that it will happen when it happens and there's not anything or any "intel" that will change that. I look at it as if/when it happens, we're blessed/lucky and until then, it's all still good. My friend is a perfect example of a precautionary tale for any newbies out there as to how not to go about this.

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