Very quietly obama's citizenship case reaches the supreme court

[markb57]

so why do you keep going back changing your posts?

[ajskj]

so why do you keep going back changing your posts?

Why do you keep checking them??

I thought of a better example...then went back with my first post.

[rman]

Yes, but the " spooky " part is that you don't think it is.

Nope. Just a label folks like you like to throw out whenever someone disagrees with your "position". Doesn't mean squat to me. Just more rhetoric in the same vain as the birther stuff.

[stargazer55]

SNIP....Also.....the Constitution, while an all important document, isn't the "bible of America" that these "Defenders of Freedom" tout. Our founders, while true patriots kind of had their flaws and..well....we've grown up a little as a nation since then. The original constitution in it's PURE language, women not having the right to vote and people of color..well......'nuff said.

Actually, yes, the Declaration of Independance and the Constution ARE the cornerstones or Bible of our country. The founders, knowing that important issues such as the equal treatment of human beings needed to be addressed, built the Constitution to allow that to happen. If it hadn't been constructed in the manner that it was, there would have been no way to unite the Colonies to overcome the oppression of the king and form a new nation. Article V provided the means to address inequites at a later time. It would have been better if they were rectified sooner but, we are all human and society progresses at its own pace. You can thank the founders for providing a way for it to happen.

While our founders had their flaws, as do we all, I dare say that, our world has never, ever, seen a gathering of men with such talent, intellect and and will to sacrifice all (which most did) in one era and in one place.

The Declaration & Constituion are more than just important documents, they are the foundation of the greatest nation in the history of all mankind. Not perfect mind you. But still the greatest.

Regards.

[rman]

Not playing rman. Our Constitution is the one beacon of light that can keep America on the track to God's blessings. We as a people have made many mistakes and committed many wrongs, but we cannot abandon the anchor that holds us in the face of storms. I love America and do not want her to be diminished in any way. I want my children and yours (if you have any) to enjoy the freedom and responsibilities that promote the good things our forefathers envisioned. God created all men equal and gave us certain inalienable rights, but it is not our right to be poor stewards of the great American dream. We cannot sit on our %^^%&% like baby birds waiting for something to be regurgitated into us. We need to be diligent, vigilent, of good moral character and respectful of others, but not at the expense of what my forefathers fought and died for. My family has been on this continent since the Americas were only a british colony. The blood of my fathers is mingled with soil of our nation. I cannot take that lightly.

I can see you take this Constitution stuff to heart...and I suppose I can respect that. But when most of these "Constitutionalists" speak....they constantly refer to "our founders didn't want this and they didn't want that". The point I was trying to make is, that while the founders had the right idea....the fact that they ARE amendments such as women voting and people of color SHOWS that they weren't the perfect beings Constitutionalists paint them out to be. We've grown as a country,...and it's time to recognize that. Anyhow...back to the birthers....

[rman]

careful there aj, your showing your liberal ignorance. if YOU knew what it was, you would think it to be scary too for this country. I am actually hearing this a lot from people that actually believe socialism is a good thing. Very sad for this country.

Did GLenn Beck tell you that? "Socialism"...everyone who isn't of like mind with folks like you....is always deemed a "Socialist". What an elitist, pompous attitude to have.

[carlablum]

:tiphat:Thank you!!!!!!!!!! Hats off to you!!!!!

Actually, yes, the Declaration of Independance and the Constution ARE the cornerstones or Bible of our country. The founders, knowing that important issues such as the equal treatment of human beings needed to be addressed, built the Constitution to allow that to happen. If it hadn't been constructed in the manner that it was, there would have been no way to unite the Colonies to overcome the oppression of the king and form a new nation. Article V provided the means to address inequites at a later time. It would have been better if they were rectified sooner but, we are all human and society progresses at its own pace. You can thank the founders for providing a way for it to happen.

While our founders had their flaws, as do we all, I dare say that, our world has never, ever, seen a gathering of men with such talent, intellect and and will to sacrifice all (which most did) in one era and in one place.

The Declaration & Constituion are more than just important documents, they are the foundation of the greatest nation in the history of all mankind. Not perfect mind you. But still the greatest.

Regards.

[rman]

Actually, yes, the Declaration of Independance and the Constution ARE the cornerstones or Bible of our country. The founders, knowing that important issues such as the equal treatment of human beings needed to be addressed, built the Constitution to allow that to happen. If it hadn't been constructed in the manner that it was, there would have been no way to unite the Colonies to overcome the oppression of the king and form a new nation. Article V provided the means to address inequites at a later time. It would have been better if they were rectified sooner but, we are all human and society progresses at its own pace. You can thank the founders for providing a way for it to happen.

While our founders had their flaws, as do we all, I dare say that, our world has never, ever, seen a gathering of men with such talent, intellect and and will to sacrifice all (which most did) in one era and in one place.

The Declaration & Constituion are more than just important documents, they are the foundation of the greatest nation in the history of all mankind. Not perfect mind you. But still the greatest.

Regards.

.I'm not arguing the merits of the Constitution. I am arguing the merits of todays "Constitutionalist". (The ones who cry "Socialist" every hour on the hour like some sort of clock)

[markb57]

ya gotta love todays socia, I mean democrats. We're all just one big happy family, right?

[Butifldrm]

Well we can sit here and discuss, dispute and rant about how he got where he is. It will do none of us any good. We need to pray that God has mercy on us and only he himself can grant us the strength and knowlege to fix the situation at hand. All things are allowed and rectified by God at his will for a reason!

[markb57]

Well we can sit here and discuss, dispute and rant about how he got where he is. It will do none of us any good. We need to pray that God has mercy on us and only he himself can grant us the strength and knowlege to fix the situation at hand. All things are allowed and rectified by God at his will for a reason!

yes, they are

[rman]

ya gotta love todays socia, I mean democrats. We're all just one big happy family, right?

There's that scary "Socialist" word again. Seems to be what you whiners pull out when you've run out of propaganda. Oooooooo spooky.

[Andyd]

This may be off subject but kind of on the same line. How is it that a non-citizen (Arnold) can be gov. of Cali. if we can not have a non-citizen for prseident? (I am not saying Obama is or is not a citizen ... Just wondering about what makes it fair. Because we all know Arnold will be president one day.) hahaha

I will tell you just as a Californian and an State of California Employees....There are a lot of Californians who have lived under his "authoriatism" who would never vote for him....Unless we planned on moving out of the USA!!! HaHaHa.....

[Chief V]

Sadly enough there are a few people on this particular thread who assume that if you don't see the world through their eyes you then become "pleased with his exploitation of the American people and destruction of THEIR vision of the"American way". That disagreeing on the merits of this whole "birth certificate" theory makes you "blinded by their new found leader". (Which, by the way, he is YOUR leader as well my friend. If you are a flag waving American citizens, the President is YOUR leader whether you like him, agree with his policies or care for what particular deodorant he chooses. He's your leader too) So I guess these few people know something that the majority of Americans don't as you claim. Well then be happy in that. But this "superior way of thinking" that someone one who doesn't look at the world through the same pair of eyes you do makes them "blinded" is not the "American Way". I thought differing opinions and ideaology was supposed to be welcomed in OUR America. But that's doesn't fit the agenda now does it. By the way, post all the YouTube videos that support your line of thinking you wish. There are just as many out there to debunk your line of thinking. Doesn't make any one more accurate then the other. Propaganda pieces are a dime a dozen and come from all different sides.

Granted he is my leader, and I served our country as a Soldier as well, and served it proudly, even having been a naturalized citizen myself, born in another country with a foreign birth certificate, I still, like a proud American in an American Way served our country.

I do not like his policies and it is my right to disagree with them. I could care less who see's what through who's eyes, the general consensus of his recent popularity polls shows exactly who is seeing what and how bad it truly is. America is starting to wake up, our constitution has been torn to pieces. His birth certificate having been brought out as a debate and possible deterrent to his being elected says something in itself. If it walks like a duck.... scandel is scandel, regardless, he's not fit to run office nor is he mature enough IMO. He's too young to be a president IMO as well. His political record in Illinois speaks for itself as well. Hello?

I am by no means arrogant enough to feel that my thinking is more superior than anyone else's and as far as posting all the youtube videos, well "my friend" which you don't know me from Adam (no pun intended) those were sent to me by friends and colleagues from the US, people in America who are waking up. I get what I can over in Iraq, information that I share back and forth, but I see much more coming towards me than what I am sending back.....wonder why that is? You support this President, I don't have to. By the way, in the new health care bill there is a portion that mentions a 6000 man Civilian Army, now what in the h*ll would that be for? Who's gonna sign up for that one? American Troops cannot attack Americans, so hey let's make a Civilian Army contracted to do such if the event deems necessary???? HELLLLLO.

Actions speak louder than words. What action are you taking?

[Lyn LaVigne]

Can you please give the AP web address or news article title and author. Neither were included in your article and I would like to have them before passing it

on to others.

Lyn LaVigne

[RV4Me333]

We need to impeach him and do it FAST!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately, we can't use this for ammo because it's not true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/carter.asp

[tampa1000]

Has he ever said he is proud to be an American??? His wife dissapointed me by the coment she said just before the election!!! What was America thinking??? Those who voted for him need to watch the news!!! Even then i pray for them, our news media is in the tank for someone who resembles a dictator!!! Sad but true!!!

[Chief V]

Can you please give the AP web address or news article title and author. Neither were included in your article and I would like to have them before passing it

on to others.Lyn LaVigne

http://www.meetup.com/the912project/messages/boards/thread/8851459

Remember when Obama said he wanted a national security force? Not the national guard, but a civilian one that has not sworn to uphold the Constitution? On July 2, 2008 in a speech in Colorado Springs, Barack Obama called for a police state. Obama just got his private army And no one seems to have noticed. It is buried in the Senate revisions to the health care bill. Subtitle cincreasing the Supply of the Health Care Workforce Sec. 5201. Federally supported student loan funds. Sec. 5202. Nursing student loan program. Sec. 5203. Health care workforce loan repayment programs. Sec. 5204. Public health workforce recruitment and retention programs. Sec. 5205. Allied health workforce recruitment and retention programs. Sec. 5206. Grants for State and local programs. Sec. 5207. Funding for National Health Service Corps. Sec. 5208. Nurse-managed health clinics. Sec. 5209. Elimination of cap on commissioned corps. Sec. 5210. Establishing a Ready Reserve Corps. Subtitle denhancing Health Care Workforce Education and Training See the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act, page 1312: SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS. Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 USC 204) is amended to read as follows: SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE CORPS. (a) ESTABLISHMENT (1) IN GENERAL.here shall be in the Service a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency. (2) REQUIREMENT.All commissioned officers shall be …

http://www.cellbb.com/obamas-civilian-army-is-now-law-and-is-funded/

Judge Napolitano did an excellent take on the Healthcare Bill, there's a YouTube video on that as well, yes a YouTube video, not sure if it's the one I posted here as I can't watch them on my work computer. He's quite concerned about this Army as well. With what happened at Katrina, it seems that a new policy may be in place to keep people locked in again in the future, I don't know. Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist as I don't have all the facts, just know what I see and hear from folks back in the US and what news I can catch. There is just too much deception going on for my liking.

This is chilling! What is President Obama Carrying & Reading and for God's sake and not Allah's why????

The name of the book Obama is reading is called:

The Post-American World, and it was written by a fellow Muslim.

"Post" America means the world After America ! Please forward this picture to everyone you know, conservative or liberal. We must expose Obama's radical ideas and his intent to bring down our beloved America !

[carlablum]

http://www.meetup.com/the912project/messages/boards/thread/8851459

Judge Napolitano did an excellent take on the Healthcare Bill, there's a YouTube video on that as well, yes a YouTube video, not sure if it's the one I posted here as I can't watch them on my work computer. He's quite concerned about this Army as well. With what happened at Katrina, it seems that a new policy may be in place to keep people locked in again in the future, I don't know. Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist as I don't have all the facts, just know what I see and hear from folks back in the US and what news I can catch. There is just too much deception going on for my liking.

This is chilling! What is President Obama Carrying & Reading and for God's sake and not Allah's why????

I have to say ChiefV, you are a great soul!!!!

Thank you so much for the perfect post!!

[Chief V]

Thank you Carla, this thread is like beating a dead horse, but I'm pretty sure I've stated my opinion, some folks can't be swayed, unless someone can show me some good coming out of his tenure, I'll stick to my guns. So far I've not seen anything remotely good. I've said my piece on this one, so I don't think I'll comment further....lol

Thanks again,

V

[beau777]

I don't care where this guy was born all I know is he is in office and intends to destroy the American way of life as we know it.

God help us if he is here for 3 more years.

[markb57]

There's that scary "Socialist" word again. Seems to be what you whiners pull out when you've run out of propaganda. Oooooooo spooky.

Yea, like you liberal's calling anyone that doesnt agree with Obama a Racist....

I'm done with this banter with you rman. It hurts my head to much to keep having to dumb myself down to your level to keep this thing going.

[rman]

Yea, like you liberal's calling anyone that doesnt agree with Obama a Racist....

I'm done with this banter with you rman. It hurts my head to much to keep having to dumb myself down to your level to keep this thing going.

FOr the record....you called me the spooky "Socialist" word. I never once called you a racist. Funny that your head hurts from "dumbing yourself down" yet....the "birther" speak continues. (Talk about DUMB!) Maybe you head is hurting from attempting to use logic and reason too much all at once. Your brain must be out of practice.