sportfisher Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07/22027-obama-administration-demands-internet-companies-give-over-passwords/ The Obama administration’s security services want your Internet service to hand over your password to them. Are you comfortable with this? The website that broke this news, CNET, called this an “escalation in Internet surveillance” by the federal government. Yeah, I’d say so! “The U.S. government has demanded that major Internet companies divulge users’ stored passwords, according to two industry sources familiar with these orders, which represent an escalation in surveillance techniques that has not previously been disclosed,” the tech website reported on July 25. (See also: NSA Spokesman: Obama Administration Can Spy On ALL Americans) That isn’t all the government is demanding from our Internet providers. They also want our security questions and the company’s algorithms. Naturally most of the Internet companies that CNET tried to interview about this refused to talk about the whole thing. Who can blame them with the iron boot heel of Obama’s administration on their necks, eh? Even as far back as 2011, Congress and the President were debating whether they should get some sort of Internet kill switch installed into our system of online communications: CNET does have some savvy advice–though, slyly unstated advice–on how to do your part to make cracking your password with decryption software a bit harder. One popular algorithm, used by Twitter and LinkedIn, is called bcrypt. A 2009 paper (PDF) by computer scientist Colin Percival estimated that it would cost a mere $4 to crack, in an average of one year, an 8-character bcrypt password composed only of letters. To do it in an average of one day, the hardware cost would jump to approximately $1,500. But if a password of the same length included numbers, asterisks, punctuation marks, and other special characters, the cost-per-year leaps to $130,000. Increasing the length to any 10 characters, Percival estimated in 2009, brings the estimated cracking cost to a staggering $1.2 billion. (See also: DHS Requests “Riot Control” Gear After Buying Billions Of Bullets) Interesting advice. Maybe we should all revisit our passwords, make them longer, and add some special characters? So, are you comfortable with the federal government having the power to shut off your access to the Internet and having your passwords and personal info so they can muck about in your accounts? Tell us below. Edited July 27, 2013 by sportfisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleslayer Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) In my field of work people often share their passwords with me. I repair computers. What I see is their passwords are one of the kids,dog,or name spelled backwards. Those that are required to use one uppercase and a numeral, often capitalize first letter and put a 1 after it. Try this. Say your password is "Gesslers " how about this side step "Ge$$lers" I know of one person who's password is "rigger2" she spells it "rigGer2" A capital letter in the MIDDLE of the word is very effective. In short use "license plate speak" for your passwords! Another very good throw is poor spelling looks like chasing girls instead of paying attention is finally paying off! Instead of billybob use billiebob. Also a very effective move is to use a phrase including spaces Best password I ever saw was on a 80 year old woman's computer. She did not want share with me what it was ok that's fine I understand. After about the 20 th time of calling her back into the room to type the password for me She decided to share! It was pi$$ $hit f**k. I about fell out of my chair laughing. Don't mess with the old folks! Edited July 27, 2013 by Muleslayer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07/22027-obama-administration-demands-internet-companies-give-over-passwords/ The Obama administration’s security services want your Internet service to hand over your password to them. Are you comfortable with this? The website that broke this news, CNET, called this an “escalation in Internet surveillance” by the federal government. Yeah, I’d say so! “The U.S. government has demanded that major Internet companies divulge users’ stored passwords, according to two industry sources familiar with these orders, which represent an escalation in surveillance techniques that has not previously been disclosed,” the tech website reported on July 25. (See also: NSA Spokesman: Obama Administration Can Spy On ALL Americans) That isn’t all the government is demanding from our Internet providers. They also want our security questions and the company’s algorithms. Naturally most of the Internet companies that CNET tried to interview about this refused to talk about the whole thing. Who can blame them with the iron boot heel of Obama’s administration on their necks, eh? Even as far back as 2011, Congress and the President were debating whether they should get some sort of Internet kill switch installed into our system of online communications: CNET does have some savvy advice–though, slyly unstated advice–on how to do your part to make cracking your password with decryption software a bit harder. (See also: DHS Requests “Riot Control” Gear After Buying Billions Of Bullets) One popular algorithm, used by Twitter and LinkedIn, is called bcrypt. A 2009 paper (PDF) by computer scientist Colin Percival estimated that it would cost a mere $4 to crack, in an average of one year, an 8-character bcrypt password composed only of letters. To do it in an average of one day, the hardware cost would jump to approximately $1,500. But if a password of the same length included numbers, asterisks, punctuation marks, and other special characters, the cost-per-year leaps to $130,000. Increasing the length to any 10 characters, Percival estimated in 2009, brings the estimated cracking cost to a staggering $1.2 billion. Interesting advice. Maybe we should all revisit our passwords, make them longer, and add some special characters? So, are you comfortable with the federal government having the power to shut off your access to the Internet and having your passwords and personal info so they can muck about in your accounts? Tell us below. Thank you sportfisher for the heads up. In my field of work people often share their passwords with me. I repair computers. What I see is their passwords are one of the kids,dog,or name spelled backwards. Those that are required to use one uppercase and a numeral, often capitalize first letter and put a 1 after it. Try this. Say your password is "Gesslers " how about this side step "Ge$$lers" I know of one person who's password is "rigger2" she spells it "rigGer2" A capital letter in the MIDDLE of the word is very effective. In short use "license plate speak" for your passwords! Another very good throw is poor spelling looks like chasing girls instead of paying attention is finally paying off! Instead of billybob use billiebob. Also a very effective move is to use a phrase including spaces Best password I ever saw was on a 80 year old woman's computer. She did not want share with me what it was ok that's fine I understand. After about the 20 th time of calling her back into the room to type the password for me She decided to share! It was pi$$ **** f**k. I about fell out of my chair laughing. Don't mess with the old folks! Thanks for the tips MulE$lay3r 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gullywumper Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 definately use the longest password possible. devices or software used to crack passwords dont cost 1.2 million whistle whistle. Besides the gov can go straight to the ISP and get whatever password they want if its for national security cough cough. every single communication device is being monitored by the NSA and thats a fact! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinar Buddy Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 no kidding very long 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzur Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Doesn't look like anyone is kidding... whose kidding.... Are you kidding... really?? Muleslayer.... thanks for the great ideas on passwords.... great ideas and I can easily modify mine to incorporate, and probably actually remember them.... Interestingly, I was talking to my broker, re arranging things.. gave him my password (yeah I did, so what I trust him and he could screw me without it... so whatever) Anyway.... he said wow that's mine too... turns out it was an example brokers in this really big company gave to clients for making a strong password and apparently who knows how many actually kept that one including the brokers, thinking they were the only one who would do that.... lol ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleslayer Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Congrats on 2k post! Hey DB what's with the trolling of old posts? You bored tonight? Edited September 29, 2013 by Muleslayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thankyou for the post sportfisher good to know. Thanks also to muleslayer for the password info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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