SocalDinar Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Citigroup Inc. ©, the U.S. lender that operates in more than 160 countries, posted a $2.41 billion first-half equity deduction from currency swings, approaching analyst Charles Peabody’s forecast for a year of foreign-exchange pain. Profit growth, including a 42 percent increase in second-quarter net income, still enabled the New York-based company to boost common equity during the period. Accounting rules require banks to subtract unrealized losses on some assets from shareholder equity instead of from profit. Peabody, who leads research at Portales Partners LLC, predicted last month that a drop in the value of emerging-market currencies would cost Citigroup $5 billion to $7 billion in regulatory capital this year. The bank said at the time that it hedges against foreign-exchange losses. The capital deduction increased to $1.7 billion in the second quarter from $711 million in the first, according to figures from the company today. “The currencies that hit us the most this quarter would have been the peso, maybe a little on the Indian rupee, the reais had some impact on us,” Chief Financial Officer John Gerspach said on a conference call with reporters, referring toMexico’s peso and the plural word for Brazil’s real. “It was fairly widespread.” Peabody said in an e-mail that he expects losses to accelerate in the second half of this year as the dollar becomes stronger and volatility in Asian currencies increases. Stock GainsThe Mexican peso slid 4.9 percent against the dollar in the quarter while the the Brazilian real plunged 9.4 percent. The Indian rupee tumbled about 8.6 percent, and the South Korean won fell 2.6 percent. At the current pace, the bank would report the worst translation loss in five years, exceeding the $3.5 billion deficit in 2011. Peabody’s forecast has been driven by Citigroup’s bigger presence in developing countries than competitors. Non-U.S. markets provide more than half of the firm’s profit. He’s had a sell rating on Citigroup stock since March 2012, in contrast with peers who predict the company will outperform competitors. The bank has climbed 31 percent this year as of 4:44 p.m., outpacing the 24 percent gain in the 81-company Standard & Poor’s 500 Financials Index. Because of U.S. accounting rules, currency losses don’t necessarily reduce Citigroup’s reported net income. Instead, they show up in accumulated other comprehensive income, or AOCI, and erode book value, which measures total assets minus liabilities. Under rules proposed by the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision, known as Basel III, Tier 1 common equity will be affected by AOCI gains or losses. Rising RatesThe bank also sustained a $2.1 billion deduction from equity caused by unrealized losses on securities classified as available for sale. Gains and losses on so-called AFS securities are excluded from net income and instead counted in equity. U.S. banks have been reporting losses on their AFS securities because rising interest rates have eroded the value of their bond portfolios. A drop in bond values helped cut $6.5 billion from equity at San Francisco-based Wells Fargo & Co. (WFC) and New York-basedJPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM), according to reports from those banks last week. Like Citigroup, both banks had enough profit in the quarter to make up for those losses and boost regulatory capital. $4.18 BillionCitigroup posted $4.18 billion in second-quarter net income that helped boost common equity, along with a $1.2 billion contribution from changes to the value of pension holdings and cash-flow hedges, the company reported. Common equity rose to $191.6 billion at the end of June from $190.2 billion in March, according to a presentation. The bank’s Basel III Tier 1 common ratio climbed to 10 percent from 9.3 percent. The increase in regulatory capital and book value was seen as vindication by some analysts who disagreed with Peabody’s concerns about the potential foreign exchange hit. “The impact of FX and rates on tangible book value turned out to be much ado about nothing,” Chris Kotowski, an analyst with Oppenheimer & Co. in New York who rates Citigroup“outperform,” wrote in a research note today. “We have long maintained that Citigroup has been in many emerging markets for decades, that their revenues and expenses are in local currency and that we don’t think that management gets vastly concerned with the FX translation of the balance sheet on a quarterly basis.” http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-15/citigroup-sustains-2-4-billion-first-half-currency-hit.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixirbaby Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 So maybe them going into Iraq they know something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirBorne Posted July 15, 2013 Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Two big banks moving in tandem, I hope it means something Big and Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted July 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2013 Thats what I was thinking Elixirbaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier1470 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I spoke with my friend who is vice president of investments in the Louisville Kentucky market area for.JP Morgan/ Chase the other day about this. She would not give me any detailed info other than that she was personally excited about what is being said concerning the move into Iraq, and their release from CH 7. She was very excited in her exanation of the fact that Chase could now do business with Iraq (and their currency) due to the lifting of sanctions! She said that they would not have even been able to complete a wire transfer into Iraq where under UN sanctions...but all that has changed now..she stated! She is invested... And said to keep my dinar close at hand when I informed her of a trip that I was taking that would away from the bank for approx a week. She told me to call her first thing Monday morning...she was going to look into some things (don't have any idea what she was talking about) and would have some info for me when I called. I went into the branch...but she was with a client and did not even acknowledge that she knew I was there... And she probably didnt. Anyway, she said the something that I already assumed, and that was that something was up (her words)..and JP Morgan Chase would not go into any market (especially a ME Market) that did not have proven profits to gain. She didn't wink at me...or give me any secret signals or anything...but was genuinely excited about it all..and as I stated..is most definitely looking into everything she can and will provide info asap! I may talk with her in the morning. I will go down there..she will be more willing to speak in person than over the phone. I will post with anything I get out of it!! Just thought I'd share. God Bless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixirbaby Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Thanks Hoosier for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandfly Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 YEP THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riseandshine Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) I spoke with my friend who is vice president of investments in the Louisville Kentucky market area for.JP Morgan/ Chase the other day about this. She would not give me any detailed info other than that she was personally excited about what is being said concerning the move into Iraq, and their release from CH 7. She was very excited in her exanation of the fact that Chase could now do business with Iraq (and their currency) due to the lifting of sanctions! She said that they would not have even been able to complete a wire transfer into Iraq where under UN sanctions...but all that has changed now..she stated! She is invested... And said to keep my dinar close at hand when I informed her of a trip that I was taking that would away from the bank for approx a week. She told me to call her first thing Monday morning...she was going to look into some things (don't have any idea what she was talking about) and would have some info for me when I called. I went into the branch...but she was with a client and did not even acknowledge that she knew I was there... And she probably didnt. Anyway, she said the something that I already assumed, and that was that something was up (her words)..and JP Morgan Chase would not go into any market (especially a ME Market) that did not have proven profits to gain. She didn't wink at me...or give me any secret signals or anything...but was genuinely excited about it all..and as I stated..is most definitely looking into everything she can and will provide info asap! I may talk with her in the morning. I will go down there..she will be more willing to speak in person than over the phone. I will post with anything I get out of it!! Just thought I'd share. God Bless! Yes thanks for posting your experience Hoosier. I read many posts on dvets but do not post much myself. I will say your bank stories strike me as both sincere and exciting, and backed by good integrity. I'll take that to the bank. Thanks again. Edited July 16, 2013 by riseandshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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