Biker55 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 After reading for months and months about the rate, I often thought why would they come out high. Well it suddenly hit me. If a country wanted to dedollarize why do 1:1 and have to give 1 dinar for every USD. If they came out 3:1, they only have to give 1 dinar for 3 USD. They can collect all the USD and only put out 1/3 of the Dinar. Just a thought. Makes sense to me. JUST SAYING. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthwarrior Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I know that sounds good but economics is not that simple.so many factors,it would blow you away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) ya start out high like 15 dollars for one dinar .. that would be the best way .. then they only give out 1 dinar for every 15 dollars they take in .// and they can hand me 150 million dollars for my 10 million dinars Edited June 3, 2013 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fib1618 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 ya start out high like 15 dollars for one dinar .. that would be the best way .. then they only give out 1 dinar for every 15 dollars they take in .// and they can hand me 150 million dollars for my 10 million dinars Alright okie.... Calm down. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandfly Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker55 Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 No Dontlop, I don't believe your dinar will ever be paid for. Ours will be traded for oil credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfl9 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 FIRST, What would convince Iraqi's to give a dollar for a dinar? They know a dollar will always be worth a dollar ...Regardless of the political climate .. BUT a dinar !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Machine Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 FIRST, What would convince Iraqi's to give a dollar for a dinar? They know a dollar will always be worth a dollar ...Regardless of the political climate .. BUT a dinar !!! Exactly ..... The government and cbi need to convince the people that the dinar has some value and a stable value at that . Until there is confidence in the currency it will go nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 FIRST, What would convince Iraqi's to give a dollar for a dinar? They know a dollar will always be worth a dollar ...Regardless of the political climate .. BUT a dinar !!! i believe its the central bank official rate .. the guarenteed rate at the cbi .. the rate we all look at every day when the gorps say it rvd ...whats second ? obama has printed up over 2 trillion dollars in the last 4 years .. with nothing to back it up but loans on bonds ..some of which he bought himself , on credit of tax dollars .. hes headed to 3 trillion .. .. when he took office we had 8 trillion m2 .. now its over 10 trillion .. .. what backs it up besides debt.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ7 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 i believe its the central bank official rate .. the guarenteed rate at the cbi .. the rate we all look at every day when the gorps say it rvd ...whats second ? obama has printed up over 2 trillion dollars in the last 4 years .. with nothing to back it up but loans on bonds ..some of which he bought himself , on credit of tax dollars .. hes headed to 3 trillion .. .. when he took office we had 8 trillion m2 .. now its over 10 trillion .. .. what backs it up besides debt.? How much has Iraqs M2 gone up over the last 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 i dont know .. im sure you can find out . i think its around 30 billion dollars .. 5 years ..lets see since 2008 ..i dont know .. i think around 30 to 35 bilion dollars not nearly the 2 trillion dollars obama has printed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldorsilver Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 After reading for months and months about the rate, I often thought why would they come out high. Well it suddenly hit me. If a country wanted to dedollarize why do 1:1 and have to give 1 dinar for every USD. If they came out 3:1, they only have to give 1 dinar for 3 USD. They can collect all the USD and only put out 1/3 of the Dinar. Just a thought. Makes sense to me. JUST SAYING. 10 cents would do for me. Just get it DONE ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 and yet they claim by decree the dollar is strong right now .. lol oh how they doop the public into thinking just about anything they want the public to think .. i guess if ya just say it enough over and over it must be true the trick is ya just keep saying it till the public starts saying it ,., then ..its a done deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 FIRST, What would convince Iraqi's to give a dollar for a dinar? They know a dollar will always be worth a dollar ...Regardless of the political climate .. BUT a dinar !!! Seriously? You still think the dollar is worth a dollar? Not according to Forex. At the present time it is around 83 on the index. And countries are fast looking for a way out of the dollars choke hold on the world. Just do some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) actually the dollar was the standard for thr imf monetary unit .. one monetary unit equaling one dollar .. its been devalued several times and its exchange rate is around .66 to a sdr now .. this link shows the value in imf terms .. http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/data/rms_five.aspx Edited June 3, 2013 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbeans Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 We will all be luck to see them drop one zero. That would be 120 IQD to 1 USD or .008 cents. That would make 1,000,000 IQD worth $8,000 USD .008 cents would be MORE than a 800% profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ7 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) i dont know .. im sure you can find out . i think its around 30 billion dollars .. 5 years ..lets see since 2008 ..i dont know .. i think around 30 to 35 bilion dollars not nearly the 2 trillion dollars obama has printed up It's about 40 trillion dinar. Iraq isn't printing dollars. Their M2 has more than doubled. Edited June 3, 2013 by JJ7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) It's about 40 trillion dinar. Iraq isn't printing dollars. Their M2 has more than doubled. It's about 40 trillion dinar. Iraq isn't printing dollars. Their M2 has more than doubled. Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/150283-just-a-thought-about-the-rate/#ixzz2VB1i5xzA its all based on monetary units .. to compare the two the dollar and the dinar its got to be converted .. the value is around 30 to 35 billion dollars or the us printed up 2.5 quadrillion dinars worth...any way ya want to look at it .iraq isnt listed with the imf yet .. hopfully they will be some day We will all be luck to see them drop one zero. That would be 120 IQD to 1 USD or .008 cents. That would make 1,000,000 IQD worth $8,000 USD .008 cents would be MORE than a 800% profit! id like to see them drop one zero at a time .. Edited June 3, 2013 by dontlop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fib1618 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Seriously? You still think the dollar is worth a dollar? Not according to Forex. At the present time it is around 83 on the index. And countries are fast looking for a way out of the dollars choke hold on the world. Just do some research. You may want to do a little research... The US Dollar Index (USDX) is an index (or measure) of the value of the United States dollar relative to a basket of foreign currencies. It is a weighted geometric mean of the dollar's value compared only with "baker" of 6 other major currencies which are: Euro (EUR), 57.6% weight Japanese yen (JPY) 13.6% weight Pound sterling (GBP), 11.9% weight Canadian dollar (CAD), 9.1% weight Swedish krona (SEK), 4.2% weight and Swiss franc (CHF) 3.6% weight USDX goes up when the US dollar gains "strength" (value) when compared to other currencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 ya the dollar gains strength because those other countrys hold the dollar in their reserves ,,, the longer they hold it the less its worth .. so the dollar gets stronger ..lol ..because their dollars arent worth what they used to be ,,they need to spend their dollars and not hold them in their reserves to get the best buying power .. some countrys been holding the dollar for 50 years now ..lol.. i bet they wish they could spend them in 1960 value its all a scam .. a three card monte trick .. and year after year they graduate from college only knowing what they want them to know .. how to keep track of the money and make sure no one is stealing it .. but the truth is its just a scam.. nothing backs up fiat currency .. they stole all the gold now they sell it back to us with their con artist tv commercials .. all they do is print it up .. attach a value to it .. send it out there to be controlled and guarded by those who they educated to manage their affairs the way they want it managed .. you cannot ever know how or what they do at the top of the food chain ..its none of your business ..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLadiesDaddy Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 You may want to do a little research... The US Dollar Index (USDX) is an index (or measure) of the value of the United States dollar relative to a basket of foreign currencies. It is a weighted geometric mean of the dollar's value compared only with "baker" of 6 other major currencies which are: Euro (EUR), 57.6% weight Japanese yen (JPY) 13.6% weight Pound sterling (GBP), 11.9% weight Canadian dollar (CAD), 9.1% weight Swedish krona (SEK), 4.2% weight and Swiss franc (CHF) 3.6% weight USDX goes up when the US dollar gains "strength" (value) when compared to other currencies. I have learned more than I care to. It doesn't take a genius to know that the dollar is loosing value every day. One thing I do understand is supply and demand, when demand is greater than supply then the value of an item will go up. When the supply is greater than the demand, the value will go down. As your president has been printing dollars at an extraordinary rate we are now receiving articles stating that countries are looking for something other than the dollar as their reserve currency. I'm sure that dontlop or Yota will be more than happy to supply you with certain articles about China looking to find another reserve. And do I have to draw you a picture what would happen to the dollar if that one thing happens? By the way, I was just wondering how long do you think that Adam will allow someone with more than 230negs to continue to post? I think you may be in the wrong forum. No one here is going to be swayed by your politically motivated views. So whats the point? Is it that your uncontrollable need for attention forces you to look for an argument? These are just questions that have been on my mind for some time. One thing is for sure were supplying your need for attention, I hope that makes you feel more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ7 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 It's about 40 trillion dinar. Iraq isn't printing dollars. Their M2 has more than doubled. Read more: http://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/150283-just-a-thought-about-the-rate/#ixzz2VB1i5xzA its all based on monetary units .. to compare the two the dollar and the dinar its got to be converted .. the value is around 30 to 35 billion dollars or the us printed up 2.5 quadrillion dinars worth...any way ya want to look at it .iraq isnt listed with the imf yet .. hopfully they will be some day id like to see them drop one zero at a time .. If you're talking about the ability to RV the dinar, then how many dinar they've added to their M2 is what is relevant. And the answer is: over 40 trillion. For some reason it seems like you're only capable of looking at what each unit is worth, and ignoring how many units are in circulation (like when you talk about what the VND is worth 50 years ago, and ignore the fact that there are now quadrillions of VND out there). Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 who cares .. those will disapear . if they havent already .. they will most likely start world war 3 first then during the war settle all this mumbo jumbo ..its just mumbo jumbo . pieces of paper with pictures on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fib1618 Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I have learned more than I care to. It doesn't take a genius to know that the dollar is loosing value every day. One thing I do understand is supply and demand, when demand is greater than supply then the value of an item will go up. When the supply is greater than the demand, the value will go down. As your president has been printing dollars at an extraordinary rate we are now receiving articles stating that countries are looking for something other than the dollar as their reserve currency. I'm sure that dontlop or Yota will be more than happy to supply you with certain articles about China looking to find another reserve. And do I have to draw you a picture what would happen to the dollar if that one thing happens? By the way, I was just wondering how long do you think that Adam will allow someone with more than 230negs to continue to post? I think you may be in the wrong forum. No one here is going to be swayed by your politically motivated views. So whats the point? Is it that your uncontrollable need for attention forces you to look for an argument? These are just questions that have been on my mind for some time. One thing is for sure were supplying your need for attention, I hope that makes you feel more important. I'm very much aware of what's happening to the dollar. I run the mobile version of the site on my iPhone and don't have the option to neg or plus someone nor can I see how many I have. Not that I give a rip... That crap is so junior high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 That crap is so junior high. lol who says that college kids .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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