Bumper64 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Ok, this is for all those people who keep saying, "No one is talking about taking away your guns!" Actually, they aren't just talking about it, they are proposing LAWS to Do it.Democrats in Missouri are introducing laws that turn anyone with an "assault rifle" into a felon. They would have 90 days to surrender their guns and high capacity magazines in this move to confiscate guns simply because of how they look. And if you think this gun confiscation will satisfy them, you're just kidding yourself.They ARE talking about taking away your guns! And this is being introduced in Minnesota and California as well. MISSOURI DEMS INTRODUCE ALARMING GUN CONFISCATION BILL GIVING LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS 90 DAYS TO TURN IN CERTAIN FIREARMS OR BECOME FELONS Democrats in Missouri introduced startling anti-gun legislation that would require gun owners to hand over their legally purchased so-called “assault weapons” to “the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction” within 90 days. Under the proposed bill, “Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution.” Here are some additional provisions found in the gun control bill: (1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri; (2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or (3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations. [..] 5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony. So essentially the law would turn a law-abiding gun owner today, into a felon tomorrow. State Reps. Rory Ellinger (D-86) and Jill Schupp (D-88) reportedly introduced the anti-gun legislation, House Bill 545, this week. Gun confiscation is being talked about more and more by lawmakers as a means to get so-called “assault weapons,” which are really semi-automatic rifles, off the streets. Democrats in California last week also proposed legislation that called for the potential confiscation of the state’s 166,000 legally purchased semi-automatic rifles. California Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) defended the massive gun control package, saying “we can save lives.” http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/14/missouri-dems-introduce-alarming-gun-confiscation-bill-giving-law-abiding-gun-owners-90-days-to-turn-in-certain-firearms-or-become-felons/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooserider67 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Well I just took Missouri off of my list of states that I want to visit and give my hard earned money for tourism 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog1 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Luckily only 52 of the 163 districts on the House of Representatives are DemocRATS. There are 34 in the Senate of which only 8 are DemocRATS. Although we do have a Governor who is a DemocRAT. This will never go thru in Missouri...........count on that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog1 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 This just in. Republicans in MO. introduce leglislation making it a felony to introduce language which restricts Missourian's 2nd Ammendment right. If convicted leglislators could get up to 4 years in prison. http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Mo-House-bill-makes-proposing-gun-control-illegal-191847081.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxsess Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 That's good to know bigdog. Anyone that votes for these idiots, are voting for their own demise. If Texas representatives even utter the word gun control, they would be soon unemployed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaduku Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Does this law even matter any more to politicians: **** ACT of 1902 (Gun Control is FORBIDDEN and CANNOT be REPEALED!!!) Google this for more information and pass along to all gun owners...remember knowledge is "POWER" and this is what corrupted politicians are afraid of us knowing about. The following quotes by the authors of the Second Amendment, theircontemporaries, various state and federal courts, and others should be usefulin the debate over whether that amendment protects a right of individuals oronly the military. The following quotes by the authors of the Second Amendment, theircontemporaries, various state and federal courts, and others should be usefulin the debate over whether that amendment protects a right of individuals oronly the military.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------The Second Amendment states: "A well regulated militia, beingnecessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep andbear arms shall not beinfringed." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------"On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carryourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect thespirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may besqueezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable onein which it was passed." (Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson,June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322)"The whole of the Bill (of Rights) is a declaration of the right of thepeople at large or considered as individuals.... It establishes some rights ofthe individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a rightto deprive them of." (Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society,October 7, 1789)"The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been recognized by theGeneral Government; but the best security of that right after all is, themilitary spirit, that taste for martial exercises, which has alwaysdistinguished the free citizens of these States....Such men form the bestbarrier to the liberties of America" - (Gazette of the United States,October 14, 1789.)"NoFree man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (ThomasJefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers,334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])"Theright of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia,composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and mostnatural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annalsof Congress 434 [June 8, 1789])"Amilitia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and includeall men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee,Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169)"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment ofa standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invadethe rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy themilitia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerryof Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ IAnnals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])"...to disarm the people -that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them."(George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380)"Americanshave the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of othercountries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."(James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)"the ultimate authority ...resides in the people alone," (James Madison, author of theBill of Rights, in Federalist Paper #46.)"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they arein almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforceunjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, andconstitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on anypretense, raised in the United States" (Noah Webster in `An Examinationinto the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution', 1787, a pamphletaimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward ratification, in Paul Ford, ed., Pamphletson the Constitution of the United States, at 56(New York, 1888))"...if raised, whether they could subdue a Nation of freemen, who know howto prize liberty, and who have arms in their hands?" (Delegate Sedgwick,during the Massachusetts Convention, rhetorically asking if an oppressivestanding army could prevail, Johnathan Elliot, ed., Debates in the SeveralState Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution, Vol.2 at 97 (2ded., 1888))"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to forman army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties ofthe people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferiorto them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend theirrights..." (Alexander Hamilton speaking of standing armies in Federalist29.)"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess overthe people of almost every other nation. . . Notwithstanding the militaryestablishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far asthe public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the peoplewith arms." (James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, in FederalistPaper No. 46.)"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, mayattempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionallyraised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of theirfellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keepand bear their private arms." (Tench Coxe in `Remarks on the First Part ofthe Amendments to the Federal Constitution' under the Pseudonym `APennsylvanian' in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1)"Congress have no power todisarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implementof the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword isnot in the hands of either thefederal or stategovernment, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in thehands of the people" (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette,Feb. 20, 1788)"The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by anyrule of construction be conceived to give to Congress a power to disarm thepeople. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some generalpretense by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinatepower, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as arestraint on both." [William Rawle, A View of the Constitution 125-6 (2nded. 1829)"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for fewpublic officials." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)"TheConstitution shall never be construed....to prevent the people of the UnitedStates who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms"(Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth ofMassachusetts, 86-87)"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people alwayspossess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them."(Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, andmember of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights, Walter Bennett,ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 (Univ. ofAlabama Press,1975)..)"The great object is that every man be armed" and "everyone whois able may have a gun." (Patrick Henry, in the Virginia Convention on theratification of the Constitution. Debates and other Proceedings of theConvention of Virginia,...taken in shorthand by David Robertson of Petersburg,at 271, 275 2d ed. Richmond, 1805. Also 3 Elliot, Debates at 386)"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in fullpossession of them." (Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646)"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, thatwe cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference betweenhaving our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them underthe management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having thosearms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safetyto us, as in our own hands?" (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in theSeveral State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they beproperly armed." (Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8)"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congressto infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or toprevent the people of The United States who are peaceable citizens from keepingtheir own arms..." (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in theConvention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Peirce & Hale,eds., Boston, 1850))"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warnedfrom time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let themtake arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with theblood of patriots and tyrants" (Thomas Jefferson in a letter to William S.Smith in 1787. Taken from Jefferson, On Democracy 20, S. Padover ed., 1939)"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone whoapproaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downrightforce. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined"(Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2ded. Philadelphia, 1836)"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear armsis, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny ingovernment." -- (Thomas Jefferson)"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They arethe American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence ... Fromthe hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, andtendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle andpistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearmseverywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with allthat is good" (George Washington)"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, Iadvise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it givesboldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the balland others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no characteron the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.(Thomas Jefferson, Encyclopedia of T. Jefferson, 318 [Foley, Ed., reissued1967])"The supposed quietude of a good mans allures the ruffian; while on theother hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer inawe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balancewould be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would bealike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside...Horridmischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use ofthem..." (Thomas Paine, I Writings of Thomas Paine at 56 [1894])"...the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keepand bear their private arms" (from article in the Philadelphia FederalGazette June 18, 1789 at 2, col.2,)"Those, who have the command of the arms in a country are masters of thestate, and have it in their power to make what revolutions they please. [Thus,]there is no end to observations on the difference between the measures likelyto be pursued by a minister backed by a standing army, and those of a courtawed by the fear of an armed people." (Aristotle, as quoted by JohnTrenchard and Water Moyle, An Argument Shewing, That a Standing Army IsInconsistent with a Free Government, and Absolutely Destructive to the Constitutionof the English Monarchy [London, 1697])"No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. Thepossession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He, whohas nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whoseproperty he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, andhas what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what hepossesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion." (James Burgh, PoliticalDisquisitions: Or, an Enquiry into Public Errors, Defects, and Abuses [London,1774-1775])"Men that are above all Fear, soon grow above all Shame." (JohnTrenchard and Thomas Gordon, Cato's Letters: Or, Essays on Liberty, Civil andReligious, and Other Important Subjects [London, 1755])"The difficulty here has been to persuade the citizens to keep arms, notto prevent them from being employed for violent purposes." (Dwight,Travels in New-England)"What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warnedfrom time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let themtake arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Dec. 20, 1787, in Papersof Jefferson, ed. Boyd et al.)(The American Colonies were) "all democratic governments, where the poweris in the hands of the people and where there is not the least difficulty orjealousy about putting arms into the hands of every man in the country.(European countries should not) be ignorant of the strength and the force ofsuch a form of government and how strenuously and almost wonderfully peopleliving under one have sometimes exerted themselves in defence of their rightsand liberties and how fatally it has ended with many a man and many a state whohave entered into quarrels, wars and contests with them." [George Mason,"Remarks on Annual Elections for the Fairfax Independent Company" inThe Papers of George Mason, 1725-1792, ed Robert A. Rutland (Chapel Hill,1970)]"To trust arms in the hands of the people at large has, in Europe, beenbelieved...to be an experiment fraught only with danger. Here by a long trialit has been proved to be perfectly harmless...If the government be equitable;if it be reasonable in its exactions; if proper attention be paid to the educationof children in knowledge and religion, few men will be disposed to use arms,unless for their amusement, and for the defence of themselves and theircountry." (Timothy Dwight, Travels in New England and NewYork [London1823]"It is not certain that with this aid alone [possession of arms], theywould not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to posses theadditional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who couldcollect the national will, and direct the national force; and of officersappointed out of the militia, by these governments and attached both to themand to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that thethrone of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned, in spite of thelegions which surround it." (James Madison, "Federalist No. 46")"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly beenconsidered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers astrong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; andwill generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable thepeople to resist and triumph over them. And yet, though this truth would seemso clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem soundeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is agrowing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strongdisposition, from a sense of its burthens, to be rid of all regulations. How itis practicable to keep the people duly armed without some organization, it isdifficult to see. There is certainly no small danger, that indifference maylead to disgust, and disgust to contempt; and thus gradually undermine all theprotection intended by this clause of our national bill of rights."(Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States; With aPreliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and Statesbefore the Adoption of the Constitution [boston, 1833])"The tank, the B-52, the fighter-bomber, the state-controlled police andmilitary are the weapons of dictatorship. The rifle is the weapon of democracy.If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, thesecret police, the military. The hired servants of our rulers. Only thegovernment-and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws." (EdwardAbbey, "The Right to Arms," Abbey's Road [New York, 1979])"You are bound to meet misfortune if you are unarmed because, among otherreasons, people despise you....There is simply no comparison between a man whois armed and one who is not. It is unreasonable to expect that an armed manshould obey one who is unarmed, or that an unarmed man should remain safe andsecure when his servants are armed. In the latter case, there will be suspicionon the one hand and contempt on the other, making cooperation impossible."(Niccolo Machiavelli in "The Prince")"You must understand, therefore, that there are two ways of fighting: bylaw or by force. The first way is natural to men, and the second to beasts. Butas the first way often proves inadequate one must needs have recourse to thesecond." (Niccolo Machiavelli in "The Prince")"As much as I oppose the average person's having a gun, I recognize thatsome people have a legitimate need to own one. A wealthy corporate executivewho fears his family might get kidnapped is one such person. A Hollywoodcelebrity who has to protect himself from kooks is another. If Sharon Tate hadhad access to a gun during the Manson killings, some innocent lives might havebeen saved." [Joseph D. McNamara (San Jose, CA Police Chief), in his book,Safe and Sane, © 1984, p. 71-72.]"To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm . . . is anunwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Ifcowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols orguns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by ageneral deprivation of constitutional privilege." [Wilson v. State, 33Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. Rep. 52, at 54 (1878)]For, in principle, there is no difference between a law prohibiting the wearingof concealed arms, and a law forbidding the wearing such as are exposed; and ifthe former be unconstitutional, the latter must be so likewise. But it shouldnot be forgotten, that it is not only a part of the right that is secured bythe constitution; it is the right entire and complete, as it existed at theadoption of the constitution; and if any portion of that right be impaired,immaterial how small the part may be, and immaterial the order of time at whichit be done, it is equally forbidden by the constitution." [bliss vs.Commonwealth, 12 Ky. (2 Litt.) 90, at 92, and 93, 13 Am. Dec. 251 (1822)]" `The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and notmilitia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merelyas are used by the milita, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken inupon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to beattained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitallynecessary to the security of a free State. Our opinion is that any law, Stateor Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and void, which contravenes thisright." [Nunn vs. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846)]"The provision in the Constitution granting the right to all persons tobear arms is a limitation upon the power of the Legislature to enact any law tothe contrary. The exercise of a right guaranteed by the Constitution cannot bemade subject to the will of the sheriff." [People vs. Zerillo, 219 Mich.635, 189 N.W. 927, at 928 (1922)]"The maintenance of the right to bear arms is a most essential one toevery free people and should not be whittled down by technicalconstructions." [state vs. Kerner, 181 N.C. 574, 107 S.E. 222, at 224(1921)]"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or theState, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is oneof the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and `isexcepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed toinfringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of thelawmaking power." [Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------The Second Amendment states: "A well regulated militia, beingnecessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep andbear arms shall not beinfringed." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------"On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carryourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect thespirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may besqueezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable onein which it was passed." (Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson,June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322)"The whole of the Bill (of Rights) is a declaration of the right of thepeople at large or considered as individuals.... It establishes some rights ofthe individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a rightto deprive them of." (Albert Gallatin of the New York Historical Society,October 7, 1789)"The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been recognized by theGeneral Government; but the best security of that right after all is, themilitary spirit, that taste for martial exercises, which has alwaysdistinguished the free citizens of these States....Such men form the bestbarrier to the liberties of America" - (Gazette of the United States,October 14, 1789.)"NoFree man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." (ThomasJefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers,334,[C.J.Boyd, Ed., 1950])"Theright of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia,composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and mostnatural defense of a free country..." (James Madison, I Annalsof Congress 434 [June 8, 1789])"Amilitia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and includeall men capable of bearing arms." (Richard Henry Lee,Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169)"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment ofa standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invadethe rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy themilitia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (Rep. Elbridge Gerryof Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment [ IAnnals of Congress at 750 {August 17, 1789}])"...to disarm the people -that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them."(George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380)"Americanshave the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of othercountries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."(James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244)"the ultimate authority ...resides in the people alone," (James Madison, author of theBill of Rights, in Federalist Paper #46.)"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they arein almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforceunjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, andconstitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on anypretense, raised in the United States" (Noah Webster in `An Examinationinto the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution', 1787, a pamphletaimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward ratification, in Paul Ford, ed., Pamphletson the Constitution of the United States, at 56(New York, 1888))"...if raised, whether they could subdue a Nation of freemen, who know howto prize liberty, and who have arms in their hands?" (Delegate Sedgwick,during the Massachusetts Convention, rhetorically asking if an oppressivestanding army could prevail, Johnathan Elliot, ed., Debates in the SeveralState Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution, Vol.2 at 97 (2ded., 1888))"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to forman army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties ofthe people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferiorto them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend theirrights..." (Alexander Hamilton speaking of standing armies in Federalist29.)"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess overthe people of almost every other nation. . . Notwithstanding the militaryestablishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far asthe public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the peoplewith arms." (James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, in FederalistPaper No. 46.)"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, mayattempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionallyraised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of theirfellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keepand bear their private arms." (Tench Coxe in `Remarks on the First Part ofthe Amendments to the Federal Constitution' under the Pseudonym `APennsylvanian' in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1)"Congress have no power todisarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implementof the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword isnot in the hands of either thefederal or stategovernment, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in thehands of the people" (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette,Feb. 20, 1788)"The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by anyrule of construction be conceived to give to Congress a power to disarm thepeople. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some generalpretense by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinatepower, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as arestraint on both." [William Rawle, A View of the Constitution 125-6 (2nded. 1829)"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for fewpublic officials." (George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426)"TheConstitution shall never be construed....to prevent the people of the UnitedStates who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms"(Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth ofMassachusetts, 86-87)"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people alwayspossess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them."(Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, andmember of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights, Walter Bennett,ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 (Univ. ofAlabama Press,1975)..)"The great object is that every man be armed" and "everyone whois able may have a gun." (Patrick Henry, in the Virginia Convention on theratification of the Constitution. Debates and other Proceedings of theConvention of Virginia,...taken in shorthand by David Robertson of Petersburg,at 271, 275 2d ed. Richmond, 1805. Also 3 Elliot, Debates at 386)"The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in fullpossession of them." (Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646)"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, thatwe cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference betweenhaving our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them underthe management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having thosearms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safetyto us, as in our own hands?" (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in theSeveral State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they beproperly armed." (Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8)"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congressto infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or toprevent the people of The United States who are peaceable citizens from keepingtheir own arms..." (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in theConvention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Peirce & Hale,eds., Boston, 1850))"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warnedfrom time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let themtake arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with theblood of patriots and tyrants" (Thomas Jefferson in a letter to William S.Smith in 1787. Taken from Jefferson, On Democracy 20, S. Padover ed., 1939)"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone whoapproaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downrightforce. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined"(Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2ded. Philadelphia, 1836)"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear armsis, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny ingovernment." -- (Thomas Jefferson)"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They arethe American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence ... Fromthe hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, andtendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle andpistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearmseverywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with allthat is good" (George Washington)"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, Iadvise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it givesboldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the balland others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no characteron the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks.(Thomas Jefferson, Encyclopedia of T. Jefferson, 318 [Foley, Ed., reissued1967])"The supposed quietude of a good mans allures the ruffian; while on theother hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer inawe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balancewould be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would bealike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside...Horridmischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use ofthem..." (Thomas Paine, I Writings of Thomas Paine at 56 [1894])"...the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keepand bear their private arms" (from article in the Philadelphia FederalGazette June 18, 1789 at 2, col.2,)"Those, who have the command of the arms in a country are masters of thestate, and have it in their power to make what revolutions they please. [Thus,]there is no end to observations on the difference between the measures likelyto be pursued by a minister backed by a standing army, and those of a courtawed by the fear of an armed people." (Aristotle, as quoted by JohnTrenchard and Water Moyle, An Argument Shewing, That a Standing Army IsInconsistent with a Free Government, and Absolutely Destructive to the Constitutionof the English Monarchy [London, 1697])"No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. Thepossession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He, whohas nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whoseproperty he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, andhas what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what hepossesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion." (James Burgh, PoliticalDisquisitions: Or, an Enquiry into Public Errors, Defects, and Abuses [London,1774-1775])"Men that are above all Fear, soon grow above all Shame." (JohnTrenchard and Thomas Gordon, Cato's Letters: Or, Essays on Liberty, Civil andReligious, and Other Important Subjects [London, 1755])"The difficulty here has been to persuade the citizens to keep arms, notto prevent them from being employed for violent purposes." (Dwight,Travels in New-England)"What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warnedfrom time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let themtake arms." (Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Dec. 20, 1787, in Papersof Jefferson, ed. Boyd et al.)(The American Colonies were) "all democratic governments, where the poweris in the hands of the people and where there is not the least difficulty orjealousy about putting arms into the hands of every man in the country.(European countries should not) be ignorant of the strength and the force ofsuch a form of government and how strenuously and almost wonderfully peopleliving under one have sometimes exerted themselves in defence of their rightsand liberties and how fatally it has ended with many a man and many a state whohave entered into quarrels, wars and contests with them." [George Mason,"Remarks on Annual Elections for the Fairfax Independent Company" inThe Papers of George Mason, 1725-1792, ed Robert A. Rutland (Chapel Hill,1970)]"To trust arms in the hands of the people at large has, in Europe, beenbelieved...to be an experiment fraught only with danger. Here by a long trialit has been proved to be perfectly harmless...If the government be equitable;if it be reasonable in its exactions; if proper attention be paid to the educationof children in knowledge and religion, few men will be disposed to use arms,unless for their amusement, and for the defence of themselves and theircountry." (Timothy Dwight, Travels in New England and NewYork [London1823]"It is not certain that with this aid alone [possession of arms], theywould not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to posses theadditional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who couldcollect the national will, and direct the national force; and of officersappointed out of the militia, by these governments and attached both to themand to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that thethrone of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned, in spite of thelegions which surround it." (James Madison, "Federalist No. 46")"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly beenconsidered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers astrong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; andwill generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable thepeople to resist and triumph over them. And yet, though this truth would seemso clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem soundeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is agrowing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strongdisposition, from a sense of its burthens, to be rid of all regulations. How itis practicable to keep the people duly armed without some organization, it isdifficult to see. There is certainly no small danger, that indifference maylead to disgust, and disgust to contempt; and thus gradually undermine all theprotection intended by this clause of our national bill of rights."(Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States; With aPreliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and Statesbefore the Adoption of the Constitution [boston, 1833])"The tank, the B-52, the fighter-bomber, the state-controlled police andmilitary are the weapons of dictatorship. The rifle is the weapon of democracy.If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, thesecret police, the military. The hired servants of our rulers. Only thegovernment-and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws." (EdwardAbbey, "The Right to Arms," Abbey's Road [New York, 1979])"You are bound to meet misfortune if you are unarmed because, among otherreasons, people despise you....There is simply no comparison between a man whois armed and one who is not. It is unreasonable to expect that an armed manshould obey one who is unarmed, or that an unarmed man should remain safe andsecure when his servants are armed. In the latter case, there will be suspicionon the one hand and contempt on the other, making cooperation impossible."(Niccolo Machiavelli in "The Prince")"You must understand, therefore, that there are two ways of fighting: bylaw or by force. The first way is natural to men, and the second to beasts. Butas the first way often proves inadequate one must needs have recourse to thesecond." (Niccolo Machiavelli in "The Prince")"As much as I oppose the average person's having a gun, I recognize thatsome people have a legitimate need to own one. A wealthy corporate executivewho fears his family might get kidnapped is one such person. A Hollywoodcelebrity who has to protect himself from kooks is another. If Sharon Tate hadhad access to a gun during the Manson killings, some innocent lives might havebeen saved." [Joseph D. McNamara (San Jose, CA Police Chief), in his book,Safe and Sane, © 1984, p. 71-72.]"To prohibit a citizen from wearing or carrying a war arm . . . is anunwarranted restriction upon the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Ifcowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols orguns, the evil must be prevented by the penitentiary and gallows, and not by ageneral deprivation of constitutional privilege." [Wilson v. State, 33Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. Rep. 52, at 54 (1878)]For, in principle, there is no difference between a law prohibiting the wearingof concealed arms, and a law forbidding the wearing such as are exposed; and ifthe former be unconstitutional, the latter must be so likewise. But it shouldnot be forgotten, that it is not only a part of the right that is secured bythe constitution; it is the right entire and complete, as it existed at theadoption of the constitution; and if any portion of that right be impaired,immaterial how small the part may be, and immaterial the order of time at whichit be done, it is equally forbidden by the constitution." [bliss vs.Commonwealth, 12 Ky. (2 Litt.) 90, at 92, and 93, 13 Am. Dec. 251 (1822)]" `The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and notmilitia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merelyas are used by the milita, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken inupon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to beattained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitallynecessary to the security of a free State. Our opinion is that any law, Stateor Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and void, which contravenes thisright." [Nunn vs. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846)]"The provision in the Constitution granting the right to all persons tobear arms is a limitation upon the power of the Legislature to enact any law tothe contrary. The exercise of a right guaranteed by the Constitution cannot bemade subject to the will of the sheriff." [People vs. Zerillo, 219 Mich.635, 189 N.W. 927, at 928 (1922)]"The maintenance of the right to bear arms is a most essential one toevery free people and should not be whittled down by technicalconstructions." [state vs. Kerner, 181 N.C. 574, 107 S.E. 222, at 224(1921)]"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or theState, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is oneof the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and `isexcepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed toinfringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of thelawmaking power." [Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)] Check these quotes used by authors of the second amendments, their contemporaries, various states and federal courts, and others for their debates in the "RIGHTS OF EVERY CITIZEN TO BEAR ARMS". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtFuryUSCZ Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Does this law even matter any more to politicians: **** ACT of 1902 (Gun Control is FORBIDDEN and CANNOT be REPEALED!!!) Fellow Patriot KADUKU: haven't you noticed...? the obummer regime has NO RESPECT FOR OUR LAWS! From the very beginning of his puppet training, he was taught he is above it, that it does not apply to him. He has routinely and systematically torn our justice system to shreds, eliminating our Rights (even those granted by God) and placing US under the auspices of the U.N. Pencil-whipping orders to murder US witout due process, allowing his cronies to destroy our businesses, homes, lives... He believes himself to be above all law.... (except perhaps Sha'ria) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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