catmax Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share I seem to have a problem following "any" thread. I check off the box to be update by e-mail once a day and when the e-mail comes in and I click on the link it takes me to a site that is offing things for me to sign up for. Deffinatly not DV. Anyone els have that problem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Report Share I seem to have a problem following "any" thread. I check off the box to be update by e-mail once a day and when the e-mail comes in and I click on the link it takes me to a site that is offing things for me to sign up for. Deffinatly not DV. Anyone els have that problem? We have been discussing this issue in the mod section! Adam is working on it!! If you close it out as soon as the stuff opens and then click on the link again it usually takes you to our DV thread!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Bump you just contiue to amaze me. Great post the whole world should say. "Thank You Mr. Bumper". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhall Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Does anyone know if this is for all cancers? My daughter has been fighting a battle with Leukemia since August. And so for she is losing the battle. She was put back in the hospital last week and they told us the Leukemia is full blown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmax Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share We have been discussing this issue in the mod section! Adam is working on it!! If you close it out as soon as the stuff opens and then click on the link again it usually takes you to our DV thread!!! Bumper That worked. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brbrlocke Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Thanks for sharing.. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiaKaha Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Yea Maxi, That was our experience too. My mother-in-law had pancretic "C" She did pass away but not from the "C." The Gerson therapy had shrunk that down. Is The Gerson therapy guanabana, Catmax? Does anyone know if this is for all cancers? My daughter has been fighting a battle with Leukemia since August. And so for she is losing the battle. She was put back in the hospital last week and they told us the Leukemia is full blown. Dhall, this was the only reference I saw but didn't go thru the whole thread. So sorry to hear about your daughter. Guanabana (or soursop or graviola) therapy likely wouldn't hurt her at this point. Best of luck. If you read the full thread, somewhere earlier someone posted photos, it's on Amazon as pulp. KK MADD for Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmax Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Is The Gerson therapy guanabana, Catmax? Gerson therapy is a form of alternative cancer treatment involving coffee enemas, supplements, juicing, and a special diet that is claimed to cleanse the body, boost the immune system, and stimulate metabolism. It uses a special "Norwalk" juicer and a special water filter that produce akiline water for drinking and all the food including the coffee is organic. There is a great deal of information on the internet now if you search for it. It's a tedious regiment but let's face it... it's our lives we a talking about and the quality there of. I hope that helps. Peace, Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiaKaha Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Thanks, Cat. They sell alkaline water at the health food store, I got Mr KK 4 litres last week. They also have drops you can add to your tap water/drinking water of choice as well as tablets you can take. I'm going to get the drops, I think, next time I venture out. Supposed to be really good for you, so why not. The water was $1.69 per litre, drops were around $17.99, not sure about the tablets. Thanks for the info! KK MADD for Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall67 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share I haven't ever heard of this, but i have heard about very high doses of vitamin c will cure cancer. Again why isn't this out there for everyone to know? answer: $ talks everything else gets pushed under the rug. :(/> sad really my wifes oncologist had her do chemo but also augmented a vitamin c and d regimen. 2 years cancer free now!! Thanks, Cat. They sell alkaline water at the health food store, I got Mr KK 4 litres last week. They also have drops you can add to your tap water/drinking water of choice as well as tablets you can take. I'm going to get the drops, I think, next time I venture out. Supposed to be really good for you, so why not. The water was $1.69 per litre, drops were around $17.99, not sure about the tablets. Thanks for the info! KK MADD for Heather There are companies that sell a contraption that goes inline with your tap and adds alkaline so that everything you do with your water has alkaline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tampa1000 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Great post!!! I posted the same thing a while back and its good to see it again, thanks: Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:12 AM THIS IS A GOOD ONE FOR CANCER EVERYONE AND IT TASTE GOOD AS A DRINK, BACK IN THE CARIBBEAN I DRANK IT A LOT!!! PLEASE DON'T ADD SUGAR, SUGAR IS LIKE PUTTING GAS ON A FIRE WHEN IT COME TO CANCER..... HERE IT IS: CANCER KILLER – Natural Cancer Cell Killer 10,000 Times Stronger Than Chemo! The Sour Sop or the fruit from the graviola tree is a miraculous natural cancer cell killer 10,000 times stronger than Chemo. Why are we not aware of this? Its because some big corporation want to make back their money spent on years of research by trying to make a synthetic version of it for sale. So, since you know it now you can help a friend in need by letting him know or just drink some sour sop juice yourself as prevention from time to time. The taste is not bad after all. It’s completely natural and definitely has no side effects. If you have the space, plant one in your garden. The other parts of the tree are also useful. The next time you have a fruit juice, ask for a sour sop. How many people died in vain while this billion-dollar drug maker concealed the secret of the miraculous Graviola tree? This tree is low and is called graviola ! in Brazi l, guanabana in Spanish and has the uninspiring name “soursop” in English. The fruit is very large and the subacid sweet white pulp is eaten out of hand or, more commonly, used to make fruit drinks, sherbets and such. The principal interest in this plant is because of its strong anti-cancer effects. Although it is effective for a number of medical conditions, it is its anti tumor effect that is of most interest. This plant is a proven cancer remedy for cancers of all types. Besides being a cancer remedy, graviola is a broad spectrum antimicrobial agent for both bacterial and fungal infections, is effective against internal parasites and worms, lowers high blood pressure and is used for depression, stress and nervous disorders. If there ever was a single example that makes it dramatically clear why the existence of Health Sciences Institute is so vital to Americans like you, it’s the incredible story behind the Graviola tree.. The truth is stunningly simple: Deep within the Amazon Rainforest grows a tree that could literally revolutionize what you, your doctor, and the rest of the world thinks about cancer treatment and chances of survival. The future has never looked more promising. Research shows that with extracts from this miraculous tree it now may be possible to: * Attack cancer safely and effectively with an all-natural therapy that does not cause extreme nausea, weight loss and hair loss * Protect your immune system and avoid deadly infections * Feel stronger and healthier throughout the course of the treatment * Boost your energy and improve your outlook on life The source of this information is just as stunning: It comes from one of America ‘s largest drug manufacturers, the fruit of over 20 laboratory tests conducted since the 1970′s! What those tests revealed was nothing short of mind numbing… Extracts from the tree were shown to: * Effectively target and kill malignant cells in 12 types of cancer, including colon, breast, prostate, lung and pancreatic cancer.. * The tree compounds proved to be up to 10,000 times stronger in slowing the growth of cancer cells than Adriamycin, a commonly used chemotherapeutic drug! * What’s more, unlike chemotherapy, the compound extracted from the Graviola tree selectivelyhunts down and kills only cancer cells.. It does not harm healthy cells! The amazing anti-cancer properties of the Graviola tree have been extensively researched–so why haven’t you heard anything about it? If Graviola extract is One of America ‘s biggest billion-dollar drug makers began a search for a cancer cure and their research centered on Graviola, a legendary healing tree from the Amazon Rainforest. Various parts of the Graviola tree–including the bark, leaves, roots, fruit and fruit-seeds–have been used for centuries by medicine men and native Indi! ans in S outh America to treat heart disease, asthma, liver problems and arthritis. Going on very little documented scientific evidence, the company poured money and resources into testing the tree’s anti-cancerous properties–and were shocked by the results. Graviola proved itself to be a cancer-killing dynamo. But that’s where the Graviola story nearly ended. The company had one huge problem with the Graviola tree–it’s completely natural, and so, under federal law, not patentable. There’s no way to make serious profits from it. It turns out the drug company invested nearly seven years trying to synthesize two of the Graviola tree’s most powerful anti-cancer ingredients. If they could isolate and produce man-made clones of what makes the Graviola so potent, they’d be able to patent it and make their money back. Alas, they hit a brick wall. The original simply could not be replicated. There was no way the company could protect its profits–or even make back the millions it poured into research. As the dream of huge profits evaporated, their testing on Graviola came to a screeching halt. Even worse, the company shelved the entire project and chose not to publish the findings of its research! Luckily, however, there was one scientist from the Graviola research team whose conscience wouldn’t let him see such atrocity committed. Risking his career, he contacted a company that’s dedicated to harvesting medical plants from the Amazon Rainforest and blew the whistle. Miracle unleashed When researchers at the Health Sciences Institute were alerted to the news of Graviola,! they be gan tracking the research done on the cancer-killing tree. Evidence of the astounding effectiveness of Graviola–and its shocking cover-up–came in fast and furious…. ….The National Cancer Institute performed the first scientific research in 1976. The results showed that Graviola’s “leaves and stems were found effective in attacking and destroying malignant cells.” Inexplicably, the results were published in an internal report and never released to the public… ….Since 1976, Graviola has proven to be an immensely potent cancer killer in 20 independent laboratory tests, yet no double-blind clinical trials–the typical benchmark mainstream doctors and journals use to judge a treatment’s value–were ever initiated…. ….A study published in the Journal of Natural Products, following a recent study conducted at Catholic University of South Korea stated that one chemical in Graviola was found to selectively kill colon cancer cells at “10,000 times the potency of (the commonly used chemotherapy drug) Adriamycin…” ….The most significant part of the Catholic University of South Korea report is that Graviola was shown to selectively target the cancer cells, leaving healthy cells untouched. Unlike chemotherapy, which indiscriminately targets all actively reproducing cells (such as stomach and hair cells), causing the often devastating side effects of nausea and hair loss in cancer patients. …A study at Purdue University recently found that leaves from the Graviola tree killed cancer cells among six human cell lines and were especially effective against prostate, pancreatic and lung cancers…. Seven years of silence broken–it’s finally here Read more: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmax Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Thanks, Cat. They sell alkaline water at the health food store, I got Mr KK 4 litres last week. They also have drops you can add to your tap water/drinking water of choice as well as tablets you can take. I'm going to get the drops, I think, next time I venture out. Supposed to be really good for you, so why not. The water was $1.69 per litre, drops were around $17.99, not sure about the tablets. Thanks for the info! KK MADD for Heather KK, there are all kinds of alkiline water treatment machines you can hookup to your water supply. They produce both types of water and the acidic water is good for washing and cleaning Here is a picture of one of them but do your reasearch and you probibly can find something in your budget. http://alkalinewaterionizerstore.com/ sorry the picture didn't work so i put the website info instead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdude Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Funny - I just learned of a link between oxidative stress and the recurrence of leukemia. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233720 Oxidative stress isan imbalance between the systemic manifestation of reactive oxygen species and a biological system's ability to readily detoxify the reactive intermediates or to repair the resulting damage. Disturbances in the normal redox state of cells can cause toxic effects through the production of peroxides and free radicals that damage all components of the cell, including proteins, lipids, and DNA. Further, some reactive oxidative species act as cellular messengers in redox signaling. Thus, oxidative stress can cause disruptions in normal mechanisms of cellular signaling. So, homeostais is what your lookng for. In his book "The Science of Healing Revealed, New Insights into Redox Signaling" by Dr. Gary L. Samuelson, Ph. D. states "All health problems can be linked to damaged cells." Just some food for thought. Again, I can't name the product here because I'm affiliated with the company, but I've stumbled across a supplement that is native to the body, and helps to develop homeostasis at the cellular level, and works based on the science of redox signaling. Feeling kind of hamstrung - I'd love to share more info, but the TOU won't let me. Not complaining - becuase I love this group and understand they have to have rules. Just trying to stay compliant. To paraphase Bump - just trying to play nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share bump....need to keep this up front...we all know someone who can use this information... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Report Share bump....need to keep this up front...we all know someone who can use this information... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdude Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Funny - I just learned of a link between oxidative stress and the recurrence of leukemia. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233720 Oxidative stress isan imbalance between the systemic manifestation of reactive oxygen species and a biological system's ability to readily detoxify the reactive intermediates or to repair the resulting damage. Disturbances in the normal redox state of cells can cause toxic effects through the production of peroxides and free radicals that damage all components of the cell, including proteins, lipids, and DNA. Further, some reactive oxidative species act as cellular messengers in redox signaling. Thus, oxidative stress can cause disruptions in normal mechanisms of cellular signaling. So, homeostais is what your lookng for. In his book "The Science of Healing Revealed, New Insights into Redox Signaling" by Dr. Gary L. Samuelson, Ph. D. states "All health problems can be linked to damaged cells." Just some food for thought. Again, I can't name the product here because I'm affiliated with the company, but I've stumbled across a supplement that is native to the body, and helps to develop homeostasis at the cellular level, and works based on the science of redox signaling. Feeling kind of hamstrung - I'd love to share more info, but the TOU won't let me. Not complaining - becuase I love this group and understand they have to have rules. Just trying to stay compliant. To paraphase Bump - just trying to play nice. Forgot to mention - also have safety studies showing that this product is less toxic than alkaline water...heck, it's less toxic than orange juice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UNEEK Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Please keep us updated!! I will pray for your friend! If this thread becomes a great resource for helping people with health problems I will PIN this thread to the top of this section so that we can add and read this info to it as needed. Let me know what you all think about that idea!! Thank you so much Bumper - I have witnessed there are some caring people here - it is wonderful to see folks support others especially in prayer - My young friend Dirabaldo is a very real person - I did not make him up - He will have his 31st Birthday on March 02 2013 - The doctors have finally determined that he has a very rare kind of cancer of the pancreas - Only 1% of all pancreatic cancer is this kind - so they do not know much about it and how it will respond to treatments - They have NOT therefore made a statement as to how long he may or may not have - He had his first Chemo last week - goes tomorrow for his second treatment - then they wil schedule an appointment to test to see if it is woking to decide the next mode of treatment - If this med is working (they find the growths have stopped growing and or decreased in size) they will continue -- If no change they will use a different med and go from there His pain has subsided which is good but the big problem is keeping food down - even with a medication he is not able to eat much and keep it down - Before the chemo he was drinking protein shakes that I had come up with and they were doing great - Problem now with chemo he cannot drink cold cold things or be in the cold - so we are struggling with that a lot - I have suggested baby food or pureed foods and broths but he has not agreed to that yet - Though his stomach has surely shrunken I think digestion is the main concern - If I could and I still might -- I would ask the doctors if they could make way for a feeding tube to bypass that problem - another friends mom lived for 18 months with that option - I am sure there are other factors to take into consideration - and I really do not claim to have the medical knowledge to know if that would be a good decision or not - Some fruits have done well - we were putting banana in the shakes - and he tolerates grapes - cantaloupe - mango & plantains pretty well - it is really tough when you do not know what to do - He has lost weight to where he is only 111 lbs - (from possibly 135-140 - yes he is short with small frame) but he does not lie in the bed all the time - He wants to be up and moving around as much as possible His spirit is holding up pretty good - he has a strong faith in God (not sure the name of it) - he has a pastor that comes to visit and pray with him - He believes in miracles and is praying for one so he can finish living out his life being a testimony - He has had a very very sad and hard life -( he left home at age 12 and fended for himself) He is very courteous humble and friendly - we clicked right away when we first met at the Cystic Fibrosis Yard sale where we were volunteers - He stays alone most days while Sharon and I work but that is going to change soon - as he gets confused and he has said he is very lonely and does not like staying by himself all day - My daughter ( one more semester to finish for RN) and I have been taking turns going over and staying a few hours to keep him company - not sure what the future holds and how that will be worked out - We just pray and have faith that a way will be provided - He is pretty much a charity case at the hospital but we still have expenses for his pain medication and getting him to and fro for doctor visits and chemo which is about 50 miles away - We are selling tickets for a Bob Timberlake Framed Print - and we hope he receives monetary gifts at his birthday party ---- Sincere prayers from any and all would be most appreciated - Thank You in advance - UNEEK 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumNDumer Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share I know for a fact that we have members here at DV that are fighting this terrible disease and if this could help them one little bit I would be very happy!! My husband had one removed on his nose and one on each side to go. The one on left side could require cosmetic surgery, at present doctor has given him a type of chemotherapy cream to put on it. I much prefer natural remedies if possible. We will know in April the outcome, in the meantime we are trusting God for a good report. Thanks Bumper Blessings Luci 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Keep trusting in God and we will be praying for you and your husband!! UNEEK, thanks for the update! Your friend is still in our prayers and figure out how to get some food in him!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdude Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share An interesting article I recieved today - In a nutshell. "Overall, these results support the hypothesis that a redox cycle within the cell cycle represents a regulatory link between the oxidative metabolic processes and cell-cycle functions. A defect in this regulation could lead to aberrant proliferation. Aberrant proliferation is central to a variety of human pathologic conditions, such as cancer, wound healing, fibrosis, cardiovascular diseases, diabetes, and neurodegenerative diseases. It is hypothesized that reestablishing the redox control of the cell cycle by manipulating the cellular antioxidant pathways could be an innovative approach to prevent, reverse, or suppress (or a combination of these) many aspects of aberrant cellular proliferation." Those who are interested can read the whole article here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2783918/ Your going to find more and more that Redox Signalling is key to cellular health - healthy cells = healthy tissue = healthy organs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Hey Bumps - thank you for this great thread - I did some checking with a friend of mine that is really into whollistic living and agenda about how to get some of this readily etc - and his take was great - quote: Aloha,The cancer industry (and it is a very large and profitable industry in our sick country) has done its best to discredit the benefits of B-17/Laetrile. I have bought & eaten apricot kernels for years. And, I used to have soursop all the time in Hawaii. I think I can get them at the Berkeley Bowl when in season. There is tons of information about laetrile on the web and its benefits. Regards, XXXX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Hey Bumps - thank you for this great thread - I did some checking with a friend of mine that is really into whollistic living and agenda about how to get some of this readily etc - and his take was great - quote: Aloha, The cancer industry (and it is a very large and profitable industry in our sick country) has done its best to discredit the benefits of B-17/Laetrile. I have bought & eaten apricot kernels for years. And, I used to have soursop all the time in Hawaii. I think I can get them at the Berkeley Bowl when in season. There is tons of information about laetrile on the web and its benefits. Regards, XXXX You are welcome!! I love seeing everyone trying to help each other in this thread!! If we all help just 1 person in this world................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share (edited) Watch this looks as if B17 does indeed kill cancer cells Only!! Edited February 26, 2013 by easyrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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