Popular Post Bumper64 Posted January 18, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Has anyone heard of this before and any conformation if this really works? This would be AWESOME is this is true!!! "10000 times stronger killer of CANCER than Chemo".. do share it.. can save many lives, fill up hopes and build confidence in the patients... The Sour Sop or the fruit from the graviola tree is a miraculous natural cancer cell killer 10,000 times stronger than Chemo. Why are we not aware of this? Its because some big corporation want to make back their money spent on years of research by trying to make a synthetic version of it for sale. So, since you know it now you can help a friend in need by letting him know or just drink some sour sop juice yourself as prevention from time to time. The taste is not bad after all. It’s completely natural and definitely has no side effects. If you have the space, plant one in your garden. The other parts of the tree are also useful. The next time you have a fruit juice, ask for a sour sop. How many people died in vain while this billion-dollar drug maker concealed the secret of the miraculous Graviola tree? This tree is low and is called graviola ! in Brazi l, guanabana in Spanish and has the uninspiring name “soursop” in English. The fruit is very large and the subacid sweet white pulp is eaten out of hand or, more commonly, used to make fruit drinks, sherbets and such. The principal interest in this plant is because of its strong anti-cancer effects. Although it is effective for a number of medical conditions, it is its anti tumor effect that is of most interest. This plant is a proven cancer remedy for cancers of all types. Besides being a cancer remedy, graviola is a broad spectrum antimicrobial agent for both bacterial and fungal infections, is effective against internal parasites and worms, lowers high blood pressure and is used for depression, stress and nervous disorders. If there ever was a single example that makes it dramatically clear why the existence of Health Sciences Institute is so vital to Americans like you, it’s the incredible story behind the Graviola tree.. The truth is stunningly simple: Deep within the Amazon Rainforest grows a tree that could literally revolutionize what you, your doctor, and the rest of the world thinks about cancer treatment and chances of survival. The future has never looked more promising. Research shows that with extracts from this miraculous tree it now may be possible to: * Attack cancer safely and effectively with an all-natural therapy that does not cause extreme nausea, weight loss and hair loss * Protect your immune system and avoid deadly infections * Feel stronger and healthier throughout the course of the treatment * Boost your energy and improve your outlook on life The source of this information is just as stunning: It comes from one of America ‘s largest drug manufacturers, the fruit of over 20 laboratory tests conducted since the 1970's! What those tests revealed was nothing short of mind numbing… Extracts from the tree were shown to: * Effectively target and kill malignant cells in 12 types of cancer, including colon, breast, prostate, lung and pancreatic cancer.. * The tree compounds proved to be up to 10,000 times stronger in slowing the growth of cancer cells than Adriamycin, a commonly used chemotherapeutic drug! * What’s more, unlike chemotherapy, the compound extracted from the Graviola tree selectivelyhunts down and kills only cancer cells.. It does not harm healthy cells! The amazing anti-cancer properties of the Graviola tree have been extensively researched–so why haven’t you heard anything about it? If Graviola extract is One of America ‘s biggest billion-dollar drug makers began a search for a cancer cure and their research centered on Graviola, a legendary healing tree from the Amazon Rainforest. Various parts of the Graviola tree–including the bark, leaves, roots, fruit and fruit-seeds–have been used for centuries by medicine men and native Indi! ans in S outh America to treat heart disease, asthma, liver problems and arthritis. Going on very little documented scientific evidence, the company poured money and resources into testing the tree’s anti-cancerous properties–and were shocked by the results. Graviola proved itself to be a cancer-killing dynamo. But that’s where the Graviola story nearly ended. The company had one huge problem with the Graviola tree–it’s completely natural, and so, under federal law, not patentable. There’s no way to make serious profits from it. It turns out the drug company invested nearly seven years trying to synthesize two of the Graviola tree’s most powerful anti-cancer ingredients. If they could isolate and produce man-made clones of what makes the Graviola so potent, they’d be able to patent it and make their money back. Alas, they hit a brick wall. The original simply could not be replicated. There was no way the company could protect its profits–or even make back the millions it poured into research. As the dream of huge profits evaporated, their testing on Graviola came to a screeching halt. Even worse, the company shelved the entire project and chose not to publish the findings of its research! Luckily, however, there was one scientist from the Graviola research team whose conscience wouldn’t let him see such atrocity committed. Risking his career, he contacted a company that’s dedicated to harvesting medical plants from the Amazon Rainforest and blew the whistle. Miracle unleashed When researchers at the Health Sciences Institute were alerted to the news of Graviola, they began tracking the research done on the cancer-killing tree. Evidence of the astounding effectiveness of Graviola–and its shocking cover-up–came in fast and furious…. ….The National Cancer Institute performed the first scientific research in 1976. The results showed that Graviola’s “leaves and stems were found effective in attacking and destroying malignant cells.” Inexplicably, the results were published in an internal report and never released to the public… ….Since 1976, Graviola has proven to be an immensely potent cancer killer in 20 independent laboratory tests, yet no double-blind clinical trials–the typical benchmark mainstream doctors and journals use to judge a treatment’s value–were ever initiated…. ….A study published in the Journal of Natural Products, following a recent study conducted at Catholic University of South Korea stated that one chemical in Graviola was found to selectively kill colon cancer cells at “10,000 times the potency of (the commonly used chemotherapy drug) Adriamycin…” ….The most significant part of the Catholic University of South Korea report is that Graviola was shown to selectively target the cancer cells, leaving healthy cells untouched. Unlike chemotherapy, which indiscriminately targets all actively reproducing cells (such as stomach and hair cells), causing the often devastating side effects of nausea and hair loss in cancer patients. Soursop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soursop Graviola: http://www.mskcc.org...e/herb/graviola International Journal of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences, PHYTOCHEMICAL AND PHARMACOLOGICAL PROPERTIES OF ANNONA MURICATA: A REVIEW http://www.ijppsjour...Issue2/3297.pdf Cancer Killer Re-discovered? http://www.thehartfo...-re-discovered/ …A study at Purdue University recently found that leaves from the Graviola tree killed cancer cells among six human cell lines and were especially effective against prostate, pancreatic and lung cancers Seven years of silence broken–it’s finally here! Also check this out http://www.ecrater.c...la-annona?gps=1 1 31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectron Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share I thought I saw something about this over a year ago but then it kind of disapeared from site. Thanks Bump for bringing this over. I love natural remedies for health. I also read that the Kiwi Fruit was shown to reverse the DNA damage caused by Free Radicals with other benefits that I don't recall at the moment. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share I thought I saw something about this over a year ago but then it kind of disapeared from site. Thanks Bump for bringing this over. I love natural remedies for health. I also read that the Kiwi Fruit was shown to reverse the DNA damage caused by Free Radicals with other benefits that I don't recall at the moment. I know for a fact that we have members here at DV that are fighting this terrible disease and if this could help them one little bit I would be very happy!! 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectron Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Me too Bump. Internet can be bad but then can be life saving in many ways including in researching these natural remedies and then wonderful people like you post here in hopes that your own DV friends might beable to benifit from the information. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genx4me Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share I remember reading this before, but I don't know anyone who has ever used it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadita Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share We eat a lot of this fruit ! makes good smoothie Thank you , Bump What else you have tucked in your pocket ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlefeet Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share (edited) I remember reading this before, but I don't know anyone who has ever used it. Great article Bumper....seems like a miracle drug I bought it in pill form...all I could get here, for my brother this past year when he was diagnosed with Cancer. He's done Chemo and taken Graviola and seems to be getting better....we shall see. Seems like I remember reading about it in the DV Natural Cures Thread that was started a while back, researched it and bought some. I'm taking it too, just cause Edited January 18, 2013 by littlefeet 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Me too Bump. Internet can be bad but then can be life saving in many ways including in researching these natural remedies and then wonderful people like you post here in hopes that your own DV friends might beable to benifit from the information. We eat a lot of this fruit ! makes good smoothie Thank you , Bump What else you have tucked in your pocket ? If I can find just ONE article that can help one of my DV family I will research until I am blue in the face!! I told many here that I have gout really bad and you would not believe the love and remedies that these DV members shared with me. I am doing much better with my gout these days!!! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHi Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Hey Bump I used it in a mix of different natural remedies to beat prostate cancer. I only had access to the dried leaves to make tea with at the crucial time. It made my blood count for various things go weird and that screwed with the western medicine docs but I said...no sweat....just retest me in 4 days ( I stopped taking the stuff and all my bloods returned to "normal" ranges.....the MRI scan showed no sign of the cancer after 3 months of treatment!! 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectron Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Awesome Bump! I think I remember reading about that before I was a DV member. Good to hear you are doing better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNEEK Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share THANKS BUMPER for the post - I will do some research on it for sure - I am sitting with a young friend age 30 who has cancer 16 cent on his liver another 6 cent on his liver and a mass 4 cent on his pancreas - the docs have said they cannot do anything for him and pretty much sent him home with pain meds to die - It is terrible - he is in a lot of pain and can not keep much of anything down - I go to an acupuncturist that also deals in herbs - She is from China - I am going to ask her about this - there is also an article on dandelion tea and another fruit / herb maybe I will post them for others to check out -- I really do believe there are cures for cancer that are not so readily available to us -- UNEEK 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectron Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share We eat a lot of this fruit ! makes good smoothie Thank you , Bump What else you have tucked in your pocket ? What's the easiest way to get some of these fruits and also would love to get seeds and plant my own. Me and the wife are going to stay in a motorhome on our property in AZ by Summer time and I'm building a greenhouse so I would love to have this fruit in our selection . Oh, some recipies would be awesome too if you wouldn't mind. Thanks in advance 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiaKaha Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share My Filipina stepmom suggested this for my hubby's swollen prostate and I read online that it was great for that as well, as well as the c word. (I've lost too many family members to it to call it by name...) I keep forgetting to buy it, get too focused on all the other herbs I'm buying... gotta add this to my list. Wonder if it works for the cold/flu bugs. KK MADD for Heather 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Bumper - My wife is from Colombia and I have had it before and is very popular down there. She says that her mother uses it for "what ever ales you." Personally I need to have it with a ton of sugar as it is bitter and wow it stinks to high heaven. Matter of fact I will be down there next week and most likely will have some to drink. They cut it open and blend it up and drink it down like it is koolaid. My advise is to stay alkaline (vs acidic) as cancers love an acidic environment. Naturally avoiding the smokes and poluted drinks and drinking 1 gallon of water a day, (1 pint an hour), regular execise and using a good Chiropractor works the best. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share Hey Bump I used it in a mix of different natural remedies to beat prostate cancer. I only had access to the dried leaves to make tea with at the crucial time. It made my blood count for various things go weird and that screwed with the western medicine docs but I said...no sweat....just retest me in 4 days ( I stopped taking the stuff and all my bloods returned to "normal" ranges.....the MRI scan showed no sign of the cancer after 3 months of treatment!! That is freaking AWESOME!!! Congrats!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectron Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Hey Bump I used it in a mix of different natural remedies to beat prostate cancer. I only had access to the dried leaves to make tea with at the crucial time. It made my blood count for various things go weird and that screwed with the western medicine docs but I said...no sweat....just retest me in 4 days ( I stopped taking the stuff and all my bloods returned to "normal" ranges.....the MRI scan showed no sign of the cancer after 3 months of treatment!! Awesome! Glad to hear that FlyHi. I don't have cancer running in my family but Love to know that it's possible to prevent it also. To many foreign stuff in the food supply now a days that can potentialy cause cancer and are hard to avoid unless you have your own grown supply of food. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumper64 Posted January 18, 2013 Author Report Share THANKS BUMPER for the post - I will do some research on it for sure - I am sitting with a young friend age 30 who has cancer 16 cent on his liver another 6 cent on his liver and a mass 4 cent on his pancreas - the docs have said they cannot do anything for him and pretty much sent him home with pain meds to die - It is terrible - he is in a lot of pain and can not keep much of anything down - I go to an acupuncturist that also deals in herbs - She is from China - I am going to ask her about this - there is also an article on dandelion tea and another fruit / herb maybe I will post them for others to check out -- I really do believe there are cures for cancer that are not so readily available to us -- UNEEK Please keep us updated!! I will pray for your friend! If this thread becomes a great resource for helping people with health problems I will PIN this thread to the top of this section so that we can add and read this info to it as needed. Let me know what you all think about that idea!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwave Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Yea as a matter of fact Western Meds kill 600 people a day. Public genicide is happening. Do not take the drugs, they kill. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectron Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Great idea Bump. I would look forward to checking this thread out on a regular basis and contribute on anything I can find also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarnie Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share I haven't ever heard of this, but i have heard about very high doses of vitamin c will cure cancer. Again why isn't this out there for everyone to know? answer: $ talks everything else gets pushed under the rug. sad really 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHi Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share OK... it appears we have diversified and made this a natural remedies thread. Please find my Prostate cancer journey and the various steps I took to overcome this Firstly let me say the primary thing is to have a positive attitude. Faith, belief and hope go hand in hand with this. A grateful heart goes along way too. I quickly realised there was always some-else worse off than me…. So I was thankful that I was being found worthy to be tested in a small way. I always choose to look outwards and sought ways to help people in need. I had many sojourns to pacific island countries and community groups to this end. It is amazing how it shrinks your own problems and then they are not a focal point anymore. My cancer treatment journey: 1) I immediately started taking large doses of antioxidants. Mainly freeze dried Acai berry ….. I used about 1 tablespoon per day every day and still continue to use this… I built up to 3 times a day for a period of time. (A powder used with raw muesli or smoothies….. I had researched this heaps and met the guy that “discovered “and commercialised Acai (pronounced Ah- sigh-ee) from the jungles of the Amazon for western use) ….an extremely interesting journey on its own! It is a complete food and provides all we need….but is reasonably expensive…..I use the Riolife brand here in Australia. 2) The second anti-oxidant choice was Vit C doses…..this same guy did research for heroin addicts and found that large doses of VitC blocked the pathway for heroin effectiveness….so that even when they took it there was no effect…..unfortunately it was around the time the Methadone program was started and the government backed or what the pharmaceutical wanted!!!....there was no money it for them to produce VitC! I started with 500mg tablets (sugarless) once a day, built up to twice a day and then 3 times a day and then for a week or so 4 times a day…..just watch it as it can have an adverse effect on bowel motions…. 3) We are fortunate to have very supportive members here on DV. One put me in touch with her personal herbalist. I had a consultation by Skype with this Oriental medicine practitioner (in USA). Some of the devised teas never made it out to me in Australia (as they confiscated by customs in their raw form.) However, the made up potions were acceptable though and these were great….some strange tastes but it felt like something was happening….. The brand used was Golden Flower Chinese Herbs (I had a standard prostate medicine) 4) I took apricot husks (Vit B17) too for 4 months until my source ran out 5) I cut out all processed sugars, refined flours and High GI foods. Sugar is a big no, no as it feeds cancer tumours. I then turned to alkalising juicing….. I try not to mix fruits with veges when juicing….they are best taken separately. Dark red/purple veges and fruit (blueberries, pomegranates, Goji, raspberries, blackberries, cranberries etc) are always best from an antioxidant point of view. Here is an example of a typical juice I drank each day… wheat grass (grew my own in trays), with ginger, carrots (red ones where possible), beetroot and kale… a nice potent brew! I tended to avoid the fruits as they had too much sugar, even though they were ‘simple’ and not complex or refined ones. (NB-A very good sweetener source is Agave syrup. Read what Butifldrm posted….. “There are simple sugars out there made by Mannatech called Ambratose” is a great suggestion…. I have not tried this as I did not know it existed! …. Certainly worth a serious look at.) 6) I investigated the pure baking soda idea (an Italian doctor started this….. I chose not to go down the intravenous route as this is a specialist area…backyard jobs are too risky!!! I took it straight - by the teaspoonful trying or in a drink. It is best not to follow after an acid drink/meal as the gas was horrendous!! However you must get the Aluminium free brand’s (Bob’s Red Mill brand…I think that is American??) ….it must be food or pharmaceutical grade baking soda. Check out this video for a website and protocols 7) I’m certain alkalising the body is a critical key to fighting cancer. Check it out on the web there are lots of great ideas to use. 8) I drank heaps of Apple Cidar Vinegar (with mother liqor)….the good quality stuff….. (NB –this appears to be contrary to what was stated above as it is acidic, but it is something I believe helps the body function well. If we had sick cows when I was farming, a dose of this would set them right!) 9) I avoided sugar especially sodas (as too much sugar and the diet ones had carcinogenic products –the artificial sweeteners. I also cut back on other drinks…including alcohol….that was tough! 10) I drank green tea and wheat grass shots only for a while. 11) I drank as much water (non-acidic, usually with a touch of baking soda) as I could handle….especially starting off the day with a glass and a half of water when first awake…. this was crucial. 12) I cooked with pure virgin organic coconut oil only and ate 1 teaspoonful with my raw muesli 13) I ate plenty of fresh asparagus and broccoli 14) I had traditional Chinese acupuncture for 3 months. 15) I cooked and ate a lot of curry based foods…turmeric (is the best) and ginger along with chilli and garlic are all good cancer fighting products. I even supplemented with capsules of these products, especially when travelling. 16) I got in touch with Texasgranny and she put me onto some Limu juice drink (based on brown seaweed…. The active ingredient was Fucoidan from memory. ) Unfortunately for me I had a slight allergic reaction so chose to stop taking it (it may well have been an interaction with all the above stuff I was taking at the same time)…..the fucoidan compound reads very well though. 17) I took large doses of Vit B complexes as well. 18) As a male I also took Selenium liquid and in my case Saw Parmeto liquid (more effective than capsules from an absorption point of view) for the prostate….I’m not sure how/if they are effective on other forms of cancer. 19) I ate simply….mostly veges…barely cooked…I tried not to microwave them if possible. I always choose fresh organic or grown myself! I tried to eat Low GI foods….oats is OK but not as good from an alkalising point of view as Barley products…. I ate this with heaps of fresh blueberries, raspberries and with natural yoghurt. I ate mostly fish (oily) if I craved “meat” 20) I started taking Wild Krill Oil capsules and omega 3 oils 21) I used colloidal silver strategically when I had to fight infection/colds/virus etc as I refused to take antibiotics. Manuka Honey from NZ is very good too as a topical treatment and orally too to aid digestion (and another sugar substitute) 22) I finally tracked down some Sour Sop leaves also called graviola and heaps of other names (thorny custard apple). I made this into a tea without sugar and drank this for nearly 2 months leading up to my MRI….I believe this was the stuff that knocked ‘C’ on the head. 23) Good dark chocolate (75%+ cocoa)…especially chilli chocolate …. Marvellous tasty anti-oxidants for a treat only!! 24) Red wine from time to time! 25) Papaya fruit is excellent to. I understand there are other parts of the plant used for fighting cancer….maybe even a tea…but I did not pursue this avenue. 26) I attempted to get hold of ASEA water a year ago…but it is unavailable in Australia and they don’t ship it here from the USA. I investigated it after contact with Tankdude on DV. It has enormous potential to enhance the effectiveness (acts as a catalyst) of anti-oxidants and promote healing. Check out this website. http://www.asea.net/usa/ 27) Cinnamon. I mainly had as a hot drink steeped for 2 minutes and added Manuka honey. Also great to add to your cooking….sweet or savoury…such as Moroccan style dishes. It apparently reduces cancer cell proliferation. Cinnamon holds promise for various neuro-degenerative diseases, including: Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, brain tumor, and meningitis 28) I also took I teaspoon Cayenne Pepper (sometimes chilli powder) in a shot of water to cleanse my blood system and reduce risk of stroke or heart attack. Excellent for reducing cholesterol plaque build-up. You can take up to 1 x tablespoon, but start by trying it out cautiously in case you are allergic to the active ingredient “capsaicin”. I’m lucky I can tolerate plenty of ‘heat’….watch it don’t burn you twice though! From the above list I believe the key steps/items are those in: 1; 2; 3; 5; 6; 7; 9; 10; 16; 20; 22; 25 & 26 For prostate cancer then add: 15 & 18 As you can see I like the sledgehammer approach (hit em hard with everything in your arsenal, rather than a refined and slow methodical scientific trial one product at a time with a ‘control’ ….do nothing approach)… cancer sufferers are time short!! I also took a holistic approach….. I attemped to improve my health by taking long walks (running was not an option), bike rides and swimming in salt water (never chlorine based ones such as hot tubs/spas and swimming pools as these are generally treated with chlorine. Chlorine reacts with the bad cholesterol and forms plaques that clog the arteries.). I remained resolute in my belief that God was/is a healing God and I prayed for blessing on all plants and their derivatives that I took. I choose to socialise only with positive people….that can be harder than you think…. So sometimes I went off on self-appointed retreats just to enjoy nature and be reinvigorated as to how God has made all things fit and work together. As you can see most things can be done in the comfort of your home (not the acupuncture). I elected to keep my kids informed of my decision to avoid western medicine with a promise that at any time the intermediate tests showed my situation as worsening then I would reconsider my approach as outlined above. The key was to be disciplined and stick strictly to what you under take to do. Sometimes you need to persevere in order to push through to positive results. Some things need to be started slowly or else the trots occur!! I found it hard to share with some people as they didn’t understand what I was trying to do. Others observed and noticed that you took a different approach to eating and drinking…kudos to those astute friends! As you can see I tried and added many different treatments to my collection. I’m not sure if a single product was responsible for the success….I believe in my heart there was a catalyst/synergistic effect where they all added to each other’s efficacy and so as a whole they contributed to my well-being. BTW I felt great the whole time….the Acai and Wheat grass shots gave me heaps of energy. Two days before my MRI my doctor ordered full blood tests for absolutely everything under the sun. The funny thing was when the results came back I had anomalies for most things as they were outside the normal range…generally too high. But I knew they were all naturally derived (potassium found in all good fruits and veges; plus Iron were very high) and could are unlikely to cause a problem with say the heart rhythm’s …. unlike pharmaceutical/chemical derived additives! I hope this helps someone. Take care and God Bless as you pray through what is right for you to do. Feel free to message me if you need more info. Cheers Fly 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HYDRANT Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share great post bump---the hole idea is for companys to make money--their are so many cures and inventions out their that would help the world----but they just dont want you to know or find out about them----its the doller signs they look at. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixirbaby Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Thanks Flyhi, that was awesome. I spent two months in Australia back in 1991. Loved it and hoped to make it back some day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelg Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Where do you get "the real thing" in the U.S.A.? Would love to start a regiment of the fruit every day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share I haven't ever heard of this, but i have heard about very high doses of vitamin c will cure cancer. Again why isn't this out there for everyone to know? answer: $ talks everything else gets pushed under the rug. :(/> sad really At least someone will concede that in this particular case capitalism greed is not good and /or ethical. Bumper...Very interesting info. Thanks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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