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UNSC needs time to decide on Ban''s options to deal with Kuwaiti missing persons, property - Tarasov 19/12/2012 | 12:07 AM | Kuwait News text-size-minus.pngtext-size-plus.png By Salwa Jandoubi

UNITED NATIONS, Dec 18 (KUNA) -- UN Security Council members on Tuesday said they needed more time to examine Secretary General Ban Ki-moon's options to deal with the issues of missing Kuwaiti and third country nationals and that of missing property, and insisted that whatever their choice will be, Iraq still needs to fulfill its obligations towards Kuwait.

In his recent report to the Council, Ban, who visited Kuwait and Iraq earlier this month, listed four options to choose from after his high-level Coordinator for the two humanitarian files Gennady Tarasov leaves his post later this month for another UN job in Geneva.

The four options Ban presented to the Council to choose from are: asking the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI) to fulfill Tarasov's role, appointing an interim Coordinator for six months, replacing Tarasov with another Coordinator, or asking someone from UN headquarters to assume this mandate.

Ban prefers that UNAMI takes over Tarasov's mandate. He said Kuwait and Iraq find it "acceptable" too, "but under certain conditions for Kuwait, most notably the fulfillment by Iraq of its border-related obligations." Diplomats said the Council is split on what option to choose, but concur on one thing: "whatever the choice is, Iraq still needs to continue to fulfill its obligations towards Kuwait," a diplomat told KUNA.

While the US, UK, France and Germany prefer that someone the UN Secretariat at headquarters assume Tarasov's mandate for the coming six months, Russia prefers that an interim Coordinator be appointed.

The option of replacing Tarasov with another Coordinator for a long period will happen only if Iraq fails to fulfill its obligations to Kuwait, especially those related to the border between the two countries.

Tarasov briefed the Council behind closed doors for the last time on Ban's report and his options.

He told KUNA following the briefing that the Council's reaction to Ban's options is that "they need more consultations, because the Secretary General proposed a new shorter confidence-building period to give Iraq another chance to comply with its obligations." They will discuss the option and "will decide at a later stage." "My mandate ends on December 31, but I told the Council very clearly: whatever the transformation of this mandate may undergo, the search for the missing persons must continue, as well as the missing property, including the (Kuwaiti) archives," he said.

"It is something in the Council resolution (1284), and this effort needs to continue under whatever form or guise both sides find acceptable," he insisted.

"I am leaving, but the Kuwaiti families who lost their loved ones are still there, they still suffer, they still wait for the outcome," he added.

He described his job since he was appointed in April 2008 to replace late Yuli Vorontsov, as a "difficult task." He recalled that at the beginning, the "confidence between Iraq and Kuwait was at a very low point. So our first priority was to try to build the confidence between the parties, because without that, nothing could move forward ... Not many people believed in that approach, but it finally worked." He said the task of finding the remains of hundreds of people killed over 20 years ago in the desert was a "difficult professional business" that needed a machinery that he helped set up.

He indicated that he got assurances from the Kuwaiti, Iraqi and other sides that such mission and excavations will continue after he leaves his post.

He conceded that no much progress was recorded on this issue and that is because of the lack of information.

"The biggest problem now is to have better information. Without more precise information, digging without precise information will take a lot of time and effort and will not produce any results," he argued.

He noted that the exchange of high-level visits between Kuwait and Iraq and the decisions taken at the joint Ministerial Committee were "very good examples that both countries are now on the right track." Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told KUNA following the Council private meeting "we believe that the Secretary General's suggestion to have an interim appointment of a high-level Coordinator will be the cleanest in legal terms, and will also provide some political encouragement because it would indicate that we have taken note of the fact that Iraq has made some progress and that the overall relationship between the two countries has improved." "We certainly understand that Iraq wants to move in the direction of lifting all restrictions under chapter VII. We are very sympathetic with that. On this particular issue, some things need to be done, as far as Kuwait is concerned in order for that to happen. So far, that has not happened in order for the mandate of the high-level Coordinator to be discontinued," he added, in an indirect reference to Iraq's border-related obligations.

He explained that Russia's choice to have an interim Coordinator for six months is to see "if Kuwait is satisfied and everything is OK, then this interim period will end, and Iraq exits the Chapter VII of the UN Charter." He admitted that if the Council agrees on an interim Coordinator, "we do have a Russian candidate. It remains to be seen," claiming that the two Russian diplomats, who have taken care of the two humanitarian issues for over a decade, have done so "with some success." He said Council members praised Tarasov for being able to produce "some progress under very difficult and delicate circumstances." In reaction to the Council Western members opting for the UN Secretariat to take care of the issues, Churkin said Council resolution 1284 mandated the Secretary-General to appoint a high-level Coordinator and not to relate them to the UN Secretariat.

"The other option on the table is to have somebody from the Secretariat to do the job, not taking into account that resolution," he argued. (end) sj.bs KUNA 190007 Dec 12NNNN

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This is from the Kuwait Ambassador, but is not what the security council said!!!

Wednesday, 19 December 2012

Baghdad (AIN) -The Kuwaiti Ambassador to Iraq, Ali al-Mu'min, stressed that the pending issues with Iraq have been settled where they are under execution now.

Mu'min stated to All Iraq News Agency (AIN) that "There are other terms of agreements that will be changed into memorandums of understanding and agreements," noting that "This is one of the goals of the expected visit of the Kuwaiti Prime Minister, Jaaber al-Mubarak, to Iraq."

The Kuwaiti Ambassador continued saying "All the controversial points between both countries were discussed in order begin a new phase in the Iraqi-Kuwaiti relations that is based on common interests and neighborhood's rights." /End/

http://www.alliraqnews.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24959:kuwaiti-ambassador-pending-issues-with-iraq-on-way-of-settlement-&catid=35:political&Itemid=2

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By Salwa Jandoubi

UNITED NATIONS, Dec 18 (KUNA) -- UN Security Council members on Tuesday said they needed more time to examine Secretary General Ban Ki-moon's options to deal with the issues of missing Kuwaiti and third country nationals and that of missing property, and insisted that whatever their choice will be, Iraq still needs to fulfill its obligations towards Kuwait.

In his recent report to the Council, Ban, who visited Kuwait and Iraq earlier this month, listed four options to choose from after his high-level Coordinator for the two humanitarian files Gennady Tarasov leaves his post later this month for another UN job in Geneva.

The four options Ban presented to the Council to choose from are: asking the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI) to fulfill Tarasov's role, appointing an interim Coordinator for six months, replacing Tarasov with another Coordinator, or asking someone from UN headquarters to assume this mandate.

Ban prefers that UNAMI takes over Tarasov's mandate. He said Kuwait and Iraq find it "acceptable" too, "but under certain conditions for Kuwait, most notably the fulfillment by Iraq of its border-related obligations." Diplomats said the Council is split on what option to choose, but concur on one thing: "whatever the choice is, Iraq still needs to continue to fulfill its obligations towards Kuwait," a diplomat told KUNA.

While the US, UK, France and Germany prefer that someone the UN Secretariat at headquarters assume Tarasov's mandate for the coming six months, Russia prefers that an interim Coordinator be appointed.

The option of replacing Tarasov with another Coordinator for a long period will happen only if Iraq fails to fulfill its obligations to Kuwait, especially those related to the border between the two countries.

Tarasov briefed the Council behind closed doors for the last time on Ban's report and his options.

He told KUNA following the briefing that the Council's reaction to Ban's options is that "they need more consultations, because the Secretary General proposed a new shorter confidence-building period to give Iraq another chance to comply with its obligations." They will discuss the option and "will decide at a later stage." "My mandate ends on December 31, but I told the Council very clearly: whatever the transformation of this mandate may undergo, the search for the missing persons must continue, as well as the missing property, including the (Kuwaiti) archives," he said.

"It is something in the Council resolution (1284), and this effort needs to continue under whatever form or guise both sides find acceptable," he insisted.

"I am leaving, but the Kuwaiti families who lost their loved ones are still there, they still suffer, they still wait for the outcome," he added.

He described his job since he was appointed in April 2008 to replace late Yuli Vorontsov, as a "difficult task." He recalled that at the beginning, the "confidence between Iraq and Kuwait was at a very low point. So our first priority was to try to build the confidence between the parties, because without that, nothing could move forward ... Not many people believed in that approach, but it finally worked." He said the task of finding the remains of hundreds of people killed over 20 years ago in the desert was a "difficult professional business" that needed a machinery that he helped set up.

He indicated that he got assurances from the Kuwaiti, Iraqi and other sides that such mission and excavations will continue after he leaves his post.

He conceded that no much progress was recorded on this issue and that is because of the lack of information.

"The biggest problem now is to have better information. Without more precise information, digging without precise information will take a lot of time and effort and will not produce any results," he argued.

He noted that the exchange of high-level visits between Kuwait and Iraq and the decisions taken at the joint Ministerial Committee were "very good examples that both countries are now on the right track." Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told KUNA following the Council private meeting "we believe that the Secretary General's suggestion to have an interim appointment of a high-level Coordinator will be the cleanest in legal terms, and will also provide some political encouragement because it would indicate that we have taken note of the fact that Iraq has made some progress and that the overall relationship between the two countries has improved." "We certainly understand that Iraq wants to move in the direction of lifting all restrictions under chapter VII. We are very sympathetic with that. On this particular issue, some things need to be done, as far as Kuwait is concerned in order for that to happen. So far, that has not happened in order for the mandate of the high-level Coordinator to be discontinued," he added, in an indirect reference to Iraq's border-related obligations.

He explained that Russia's choice to have an interim Coordinator for six months is to see "if Kuwait is satisfied and everything is OK, then this interim period will end, and Iraq exits the Chapter VII of the UN Charter." He admitted that if the Council agrees on an interim Coordinator, "we do have a Russian candidate. It remains to be seen," claiming that the two Russian diplomats, who have taken care of the two humanitarian issues for over a decade, have done so "with some success." He said Council members praised Tarasov for being able to produce "some progress under very difficult and delicate circumstances." In reaction to the Council Western members opting for the UN Secretariat to take care of the issues, Churkin said Council resolution 1284 mandated the Secretary-General to appoint a high-level Coordinator and not to relate them to the UN Secretariat.

"The other option on the table is to have somebody from the Secretariat to do the job, not taking into account that resolution," he argued. (end) sj.bs KUNA 190007 Dec 12NNNN

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I've always thought that it (missing Kuwaitis) was a fake issue and that it was near impossible to fix and would remain unexpurgated until whoever is in charge no longer has the motivation to keep them there. The issue of the missing Kuwaiti archives is crucial because it remains a central factor keeping the new GOI under the thumb of UNSC resolution 686. That's my take anyway.

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They were hoping to get issues resolved by Dec 31, however, that hasn't happened. Still digging for bodies missing 10 yrs, disputes over land, etc; Iraq obligations still need to be met. Trying to determine who will be assigned to oversee the matter, maybe some Russian dude. Who knows?

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I've always thought that it (missing Kuwaitis) was a fake issue and that it was near impossible to fix and would remain unexpurgated until whoever is in charge no longer has the motivation to keep them there. The issue of the missing Kuwaiti archives is crucial because it remains a central factor keeping the new GOI under the thumb of UNSC resolution 686. That's my take anyway.

of course its fake all this posturing is a sign to me to delay for whatever reason i do believe they will be released sometime in the beginning of the year 2013 also something will happen with their currency. I am very optimistic about beginning 2013 :)

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I think that this is a stall by the UN. Quite recently the UN warned Iraq that Ch7 gave them a say on the CBI reserves held in foreign accounts. I am fairly sure that once Iraq carries out the currency reform, Ch7 issues will suddenly be resolved.

With the start of a new fiscal year, new budget and the ISX closed until 7th Jan, Jan 1st could not be a bigger opportunity.

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I've always thought that it (missing Kuwaitis) was a fake issue and that it was near impossible to fix and would remain unexpurgated until whoever is in charge no longer has the motivation to keep them there. The issue of the missing Kuwaiti archives is crucial because it remains a central factor keeping the new GOI under the thumb of UNSC resolution 686. That's my take anyway.

that's been my take too. the investors of iraq will not allow iraq to fall into the hands of dictatorship. they will continue to hold the sanction leash until the power sharing is implemented. imho

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22 years later and they are stil excavating looking for buried Kuwaitis?

It's an awfully big desert. How many were brought back into Iraq for burial

IMO many of the missing if buried by Huseins army are on Kuwaiti soil.

Iraq will never find these graves in Kuwait. Moon knows this!!

Get the border issues resolved, install the markers and then we may see a release from Ch 7

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that's been my take too. the investors of iraq will not allow iraq to fall into the hands of dictatorship. they will continue to hold the sanction leash until the power sharing is implemented. imho

I have to agreed to with you TrintyeXchange..I feel the same..Thanks :D

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of course its fake all this posturing is a sign to me to delay for whatever reason i do believe they will be released sometime in the beginning of the year 2013 also something will happen with their currency. I am very optimistic about beginning 2013 :)/>/>/>/>/>

Likewise...very optimistic.....however higher taxes for US citizens....especially us who more than likely bought one million dinar or more.......we would now be the people that everybody loves to hate....the "1%".

It is a shame. Thank God my wife isn't a US citizen. I'd rather pay an international tax from the foreign government of my choice than 50% screw job by our own gov.

I don't care about LLC or whatever everybody has. Taxes are a b*****. No matter what way you skin the cat.

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