Kent Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 This was a good article on the election and a forecast for the coming days.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/27/world/middleeast/27iraq.html?pagewanted=1&hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parmenio Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 First all I have great doubt on the credibility of the NY Times and its sources. Second, who are the "Iraqi poltitical experts..." that this Times reporter supposedly got this information from? We all know we can get and skew any information depending from where it comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideshowChad Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 oh man , this doesn't sound too good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronscarpa Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 This was a good article on the election and a forecast for the coming days.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/27/world/middleeast/27iraq.html?pagewanted=1&hpThanks Kent. From another site there were posts that indicated al Maliki now has 203 seats who have joined his coalition - which in effect will allow him to set up the Gov't as soon as Parliment is seated this week. Now, it's a just matter of time when he will choose to have the CBI announce the rate & date. IMOBe Blessed,RON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Thanks Kent. From another site there were posts that indicated al Maliki now has 203 seats who have joined his coalition - which in effect will allow him to set up the Gov't as soon as Parliment is seated this week. Now, it's a just matter of time when he will choose to have the CBI announce the rate & date. IMOBe Blessed,RON Ron, I thought Alawi had 30 days to pull together a government since his group won the election and if he couldn't, THEN Maliki would have a shot? How could Maliki have it wrapped up? (doesn't matter to me I just want something settled). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wess144 Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Rumor has it next week Jeb Bush (43rd Governor of Florida) along with thewhole Bush Family are going to Iraq to help them do a re-count. LOL ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyd Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 lol...too fuuunny wess144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclegeek Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 and someone trusts the NY slime.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 and someone trusts the NY slime.....?Unclegeek and parmenio, I know the Times is a liberal rag, but the mid-east desk isn't exactly the editorial column. I thought the article was interesting. Feel free to find and post something better. I couldn't help but notice that neither of you have made much of a contribution to the forum yet. Opinions are fine, but contributions are far more more constructive than just criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherysh Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 LMAO....so thoughtful of that "Honest" Bush family huh Wes...LMAO...Nice one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs millionaire Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 "A jubilant Mr. Allawi said he would work with any group that was willing to join him in forming a government. “We will not exclude anyone,” he said. “Our coalition is open to all.” "What I got from the article was that if parties were unwilling to consolidate their seats won (Maliki 89 and Allawi 91) then there would be the possibility of violence. The way I see it, if Allawi is true to his statement above, then he knows he has a long way to go to reach the 163 seats needed to form a government. Therefore, he has a couple of options. #1 he can do the easiest way and join with Maliki. Now in order to join with Maliki, Allawi would have to agree to joint prime ministership (if that's a word). I don't think Maliki would allow it any other way....after all, all he has to do right now is sit back while the fighting is going on and he remain prime minister. Now obviously, there are 145 other seats that Allawi could try to win, but some of those seats were won by leaders of unscrupulous character and would reflect badly on Allawi which would create more unrest. If majority lies with both Maliki and Allawi, then it only makes sense that the two men join together. Both have value to the Iraqi people, just different kinds. And in government, it's not always good to have a leader who only wants to run things one certain way. If both would have give and take, then a more democratic government would be formed. Problem would be that both would have to agree on everything, so they would need to side which battles are worth fighting over. Maliki's 89 and Allawi's 91 would be 180 which is more than the 163 seats needed. Lets hope for a quick non-violent resolution and for the dinar to revalue!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deenar Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 NY times is so biased, it's sickening. They have always been against the Iraq war. It's always gloom and doom when they report on Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronscarpa Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Ron, I thought Alawi had 30 days to pull together a government since his group won the election and if he couldn't, THEN Maliki would have a shot? How could Maliki have it wrapped up? (doesn't matter to me I just want something settled).Here's what I read Kent - I hope this helps...!Blessings - RON stEve's Chat 3/28 20:05:24 [] Well, there is finally some movement going on. I’d like to give you a brief update as to just what that movement involves, and how it affects us. 20:05:43 [] First, the pressure is still on to get Iraq out from under Chapter 7. Behind the scenes there are indications that it may get released very soon. The goal of Iraq has been to get out from under Ch 7 by the end of this month. 20:06:02 [] Kuwait has told the UN that it prefers to deal with the new government. This could mean that the RV could be held up by this statement, or it could mean that Kuwait wants to deal with the Iraqi new government bi-laterally (outside of Ch 7). 20:06:20 [] There are rumblings that the HCL is being worked on as we speak. It is now very close, so I am told. 20:06:35 [] Now, to the hold up of the RV as we know it. 20:07:04 [] The Federal Supreme Court of Iraq has ratified all of the names of the new members to Parliament. http://translate.google.com/translat ... ate.google.com 20:07:22 [] However, it is clear now that Maliki is not going to go down easily; in fact it appears that he will not go down at all. 20:07:47 [] [You might want to copy and paste these links; there are several of them]; read them later 20:08:08 [] Even though he had 89 seats to Allawi’s 91 seats, he has exercised his “police power” effectively, http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/ma ... gate-winning-/ 20:08:28 [] And about 11 of Allawi’s seats are now in jeopardy of even showing up! People are being intimidated and arrested, and some have even fled the country. 20:08:48 [] In addition, Allawi upset the country years ago (2003 or so) and memories fade slowly there. 20:09:06 [] So the Kurdish faction has announced that they will side with Maliki and not Allawi. 20:09:23 [] But they also expect him to live up to his promises to them for their coming to his coalition. And among the promises he apparently gave, were that the Kurds would have their standard of living raised in the very near future! 20:09:44 [] http://translate.googleusercontent.c ... urdsgcBcZGCgig 20:10:00 [] Furthermore, Maliki has now put together a coalition of about 203 total seats. This has been posted in the press already. Therefore, he will win again. 20:10:17 [] More to the point, we should expect to see him announce this later tonight when the new parliament is seated. In short, he has pulled an end run around Allawi and will be the new PM. 20:10:36 [] Sistani will also remain as president of Iraq, and as such he will announce Maliki as the new PM. This may all be done tonight, our time. 20:10:56 [] The reason for the rush is that Maliki would otherwise go out of power on Wednesday. He cannot wait until then. 20:11:11 [] http://translate.googleusercontent.c ... L5r0O2JZO6BwkA 0:11:29 [] http://translate.googleusercontent.c ... 18Fy3ijPYtHrfQ 20:11:43 [] Now, in addition to that Obama is either going to or already is in the ME. Why do you think that is? He flies over to Afghanistan and won’t “drop in” on Iraq? We’ll soon see. 20:13:10 [] He is there now, I have found out. 20:13:24 [] Clearly he is trying to build momentum on his H/C coup and his arms reduction treaty with Russia. What a great way to end this “round robin” except with a surprise announcement with Maliki that the RV is finally here. 20:13:39 [] http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100328/ ... ma_afghanistan 20:13:58 [] I have said to some of you that I was frustrated, and I was. But now I am as excited as I ever have been. It is my opinion that the RV will be announced right after the new government is announced, and still before April 1. 20:14:22 [] I have more good news: Asiacell, the largest telecommunications company in Iraq, has announced that it will be using IQD in all transactions from now on. 20:14:46 [] That means no more dollars, period 20:15:01 [] http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZA ... 0Iraqi%20Dinar 20:15:18 [] This means, to me, that the goose is finally cooked, my friends. 20:15:27 [e] But of course I may be mistaken.......... 20:15:29 [e] Done links from stEve's chat on 28 March 2010 Here are all the links in the chat from tonight:Now they all work.http://translate.google.com/translat...ate.google.comhttp://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/ma...gate-winning-/http://translate.google.com/translat...ate.google.comhttp://translate.google.com/translat...ate.google.comhttp://translate.google.com/translat...ogle.com&twu=1http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100328/...ma_afghanistanhttp://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZA...to Iraqi DinarI hope they all work. If not let me know and I will try and repost them. These links aren't working here, but I did read all of them and confirmed what he said - RON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 There fighting each other..................................[ATTACH=CONFIG]1258[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Thanks Ron, interesting stuff. The links didn't work, but I get the gist of it.Blessings to you as well my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs millionaire Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Couple of issues with STEVE's Chat thread:1. I can not find any where in the news where they claim that Allawi lost 11 seats and those seats were won by Maliki giving him 203 seats. If that is true, post your link to actual news ...not a chat2. Sistani - who????? the current president of Iraq is Jalal Talabani3. No one can announce Maliki as PM tonight! Allawi has 30 days to form a new government. If he can't, the president may give another a bloc a chance to form new government...the president is appointed by parliment, therefore, he can't choose the prime minister!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Eagle Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Don't forget Al Franken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronscarpa Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Couple of issues with STEVE's Chat thread:1. I can not find any where in the news where they claim that Allawi lost 11 seats and those seats were won by Maliki giving him 203 seats. If that is true, post your link to actual news ...not a chat2. Sistani - who????? the current president of Iraq is Jalal Talabani3. No one can announce Maliki as PM tonight! Allawi has 30 days to form a new government. If he can't, the president may give another a bloc a chance to form new government...the president is appointed by parliment, therefore, he can't choose the prime minister!!!Mrs MI passed this on at Kent's request as to what I read (several posts before). As the chat states, It appeared that Maliki has made some recent agreements with other blocks that agreed to join with him. When I read the links (at bottom of post) they worked and appeared to confirm steve's conclusions, but they're not working here. I'm just the messenger - check out things for yourself if you have a concern, so you can be comfortable with what you understand. Information from these links and other recent media releases I've read have indicated that Maliki's attempts to use everything at HIS DISPOSAL might just work to his advantage. Again, I'm passsing on what i read - take it for what it's worth - eat the meat and spit out the bones. Have a great day.Blessings to all,RON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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