allIneedisonemillionusd Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Found on another site:Our Constitution is Almost GoneA retired Constitutional lawyer has read the entire proposed healthcare bill. Read his conclusions and pass this on as you wish. This is stunning! Please take the time to read this and forward it out as you see fit. Thanks The Truth About the Health Care Bills -Michael Connelly, Ret. Constitutional Attorney Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional. What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected. To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession. The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by the government. However, as scary as all of that is, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed. The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people, and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care. This legislation also provides for access, by the appointees of the Obama administration, of all of your personal healthcare direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide... If you decide not to have healthcare insurance, or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment. However, that doesn't work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the due process of law. So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much, out the original ten in the Bill of Rights, that are effectively nullified by this law It doesn't stop there though. The 9th Amendment that provides: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people; The 10th Amendment states: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control. I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights... Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people would hold me accountable. For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest they consult the source, the US Constitution, and Bill of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us. Michael Connelly Retired attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor Carrollton , Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dryden01 Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I'm glad you have pointed all this out! I will let as many know as I can about your views here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allIneedisonemillionusd Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I assume you are talking to the author, not me. i didn't write this. I sure hope its not factual, but I have a gut feeling we are headed in the direction the author states. IMO of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cws Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMLP Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Excellent...Thank you for all your words and explanations...Please write more about the transfer of power taking place and how Obama is striping apart the Articles of the U. S. Constitution.Thank you so very much,Ric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markst Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Possible to get a link, so I can pass it on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Watcher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 At one time I swore to defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. I did not take the oath lightly. The document that God granted to this great nation is more important than any other ever written, with one exception, the Holy Bible. When you read both, they are linked in many ways. I do not intend to participate in Obamacare, nor will I become a part of a Marxist country. I will surrender only when the barrel of my weapon melts down. This heathen of a man called Obama is a fraud, a Marxist, and an enemy of my flag. I will never surrender, never. God Bless the United States of America. And God please help us through this storm.People produce, Government consumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muspublisher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Last time I checked, this was a forum for dinar rumors. This isn't your flat-earth playground. Furthermore, I'm sorry your opinion has been shaped by corporate America so much that you cannot see this bill does one thing, and one thing only: Life and death is no longer a dollar figure. If you can't see that, then I'm afraid you're even more foolish than your post suggests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittycat Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Folks - you all better wake up and see the train that is headed straight at you. The current administration wants to bring the country down and they have done it with this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muspublisher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 At one time I swore to defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. I did not take the oath lightly. The document that God granted to this great nation is more important than any other ever written, with one exception, the Holy Bible. When you read both, they are linked in many ways. I do not intend to participate in Obamacare, nor will I become a part of a Marxist country. I will surrender only when the barrel of my weapon melts down. This heathen of a man called Obama is a fraud, a Marxist, and an enemy of my flag. I will never surrender, never. God Bless the United States of America. And God please help us through this storm.People produce, Government consumes.hahahahahahahahahahaha... marxist country. Do you realize how stupid you actually sound? I'm embarrassed for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muspublisher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Folks - you all better wake up and see the train that is headed straight at you. The current administration wants to bring the country down and they have done it with this one!After all, that's what Fox told me...... <-------- you forgot to add this to your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittycat Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Maybe you need to check out FOX and learn something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muspublisher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 At one time I swore to defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. I did not take the oath lightly. The document that God granted to this great nation is more important than any other ever written, with one exception, the Holy Bible. When you read both, they are linked in many ways. I do not intend to participate in Obamacare, nor will I become a part of a Marxist country. I will surrender only when the barrel of my weapon melts down. This heathen of a man called Obama is a fraud, a Marxist, and an enemy of my flag. I will never surrender, never. God Bless the United States of America. And God please help us through this storm.People produce, Government consumes.Seriously, where do you get your info from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muspublisher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Maybe you need to check out FOX and learn somethinghahaha... now THAT'S funny. You mean the news organization rated as the worlds' greatest hate-speech provider next to Al-Jezeera? You mean the news organization linked to more disinformation than any other? Those guys? No thanks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbann Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Last time I checked, this was a forum for dinar rumors. This isn't your flat-earth playground. Furthermore, I'm sorry your opinion has been shaped by corporate America so much that you cannot see this bill does one thing, and one thing only: Life and death is no longer a dollar figure. If you can't see that, then I'm afraid you're even more foolish than your post suggests.I believe that is exactly what this health care bill is all about, a dollar figure. It has nothing to do with corporate america which by the way are the ones that provide jobs. It basically measures who is still useful and when your care becomes too expensive they will simply let you expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utard Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 That just made me sick to my stomach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbann Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 hahaha... now THAT'S funny. You mean the news organization rated as the worlds' greatest hate-speech provider next to Al-Jezeera? You mean the news organization linked to more disinformation than any other? Those guys? No thanks.....Can you actually provide any factual evidence to back these statements up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Watcher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Muspublisher, get back on your meds. You cannot back up one single thought in your head with facts, so you do that lib thing and insult. You are a liberal, obviously, so you are thoughtful, tolerant, generous, persuasive with your comments, and objective. You clearly have demonstrated your intelligence by attacking my beliefs. I listen to all sides, and make up my own mind. Try reading some history now and again. And yes, I love George Washington and all he stood for. The truth and facts are hard things to swallow for a liberal, start slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muspublisher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I believe that is exactly what this health care bill is all about, a dollar figure. It has nothing to do with corporate america which by the way are the ones that provide jobs. It basically measures who is still useful and when your care becomes too expensive they will simply let you expire.Barbann... with all due respect, nothing, and I mean NOTHING happens in the country without corporate America's say so. If you don't understand that simple fact, I'm afraid you don't understand anything about the country in which you inhabit. For all the rhetoric involving what is right and what is wrong, corporate American continues on how it always has: with nary a care about America, or what it stands for; with nary a care about you or I. Corporate America is about one thing and one thing only: Profit for shareholders. This entire country is run by what pleases shareholders the most. If you don't understand that, or grasp what it means, I'm sorry, but you'll be left out of a lot of decision making.With that said, I'm not naive enough to think that there weren't deals in this bill. The fact that the bill went through at all shows there were deals. This goes for ANY deal that goes through ... EVER. But again, you won't, as a lowly peasant, have to endure whether to to pay for your bills or get a heart surgery so you can survive. This is the crux of the argument. Everything else is as Chomsky put it, "emotionally potent oversimplifications". Which is a nice way to say: Argument points for your particular party. Which is, of course, exactly what they want us doing... arguing back and forth over nothing while they continue to maintain a profit structure that serves only them. And when I say "they" I don't mean some shadow, or undefinable grouping of people.... I very clearly mean corporate America: The new masters for the 21st century.This really isn't that hard to follow.... provided, of course, you read books and not take your local and national tv news as gospel truth. Just my two cents...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbann Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 hahahahahahahahahahaha... marxist country. Do you realize how stupid you actually sound? I'm embarrassed for you.I am embarrassed that you would disrespect this person who so obviously served our country in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muspublisher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Can you actually provide any factual evidence to back these statements up?Here you go... how about a report from F.A.I.R (Fairness and accuracy in reporting): http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1072 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckster Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 This is a no-win situation. Whether this whole thing is run by privately controlled insurance companies or the government - it doesn't matter. Both parties are as crooked as a snake in a hurry!! In am neither a Republican or Democrat, but the sense I get is that since Obama was elected, the Republicans have had a non-stop bashing campaign going - regardless of the topic. If Obama had a plan to give money to an orphanage, somehow the Republicans would twist it into something cynical. The Dems are no better, but for god's sake, it's obvious that Washington is nothing short of a train wreck. We need to start over and move the capitol to Omaha or Kansas City, clean house, and let some decent people guide the country. Watching C-Span is almost as comical as watching televangelists or that guy selling miracle water! And they don't even realize it. This country has gotten too big for its own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muspublisher Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Muspublisher, get back on your meds. You cannot back up one single thought in your head with facts, so you do that lib thing and insult. You are a liberal, obviously, so you are thoughtful, tolerant, generous, persuasive with your comments, and objective. You clearly have demonstrated your intelligence by attacking my beliefs. I listen to all sides, and make up my own mind. Try reading some history now and again. And yes, I love George Washington and all he stood for. The truth and facts are hard things to swallow for a liberal, start slowly.Actually you couldn't be further from the truth. However, I will state that I am not, by any means, a conservative Republican. After all, it's these people who have been on the wrong side of history. Facts? Okay... let's run some great moments in conservative history and see how they stack up: Conservatives: Dead set against allowing black people into white schools Outcome: Epic failConservatives: Was sure the Earth was flatOutcome: Epic failConservatives: Was sure we lived in a geocentric universeOutcome: Epic failConservatives: burned thousands of women at the stake for being witchesOutcome: Epic failConservatives: Believed black people were given to whites by God himself to serve the white communityOutcome: Epic failConservatives: Believed Medicaid and Medicare was the second coming of MarxismOutcome: Epic failConservatives: brought us such great and enlightening periods as the Dark Ages and the CrusadesOutcome: Epic failSo my question to you is simply this: When have they been correct? About anything? History has shown them to be a group of bumbling idiots... over and over again. What makes them correct in governing now? After all, we gave W 8 years to get it right. How did that end up?EPIC FAIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
critter5869 Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 hahaha... now THAT'S funny. You mean the news organization rated as the worlds' greatest hate-speech provider next to Al-Jezeera? You mean the news organization linked to more disinformation than any other? Those guys? No thanks.....Guess that's why their ratings are higher than all others combined ! I just love how when you have any kind of opinion that dose'nt align with the left wing brain wash nonsense in this country" you're spreading hate speech''. Wake up you Obama court jesters ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMLP Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Please go to another forum where calling people names is welcome.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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