krome2ez Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 James Carville Says 80% Of Democrats Are Politically Clueless By Clash Daily / 24 November 2012 James Carville, Democrat political consultant extraordinaire – and former Bill Clinton campaign manager, has astonishingly come out and said what all good Republicans have known for decades: Not only are most Democrats politically clueless; they’re easily manipulated by the puppet masters of their party as well. Wow. James Freaking Carville. Of all people. Here’s an excerpt, as quoted on Amazon.com: “Ideologies aren’t all that important. What’s important is psychology. The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd. Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have a clue as to political reality. What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want. The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans. Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.” Read more: http://clashdaily.com/2012/11/james-carville-says-80-of-democrats-are-politically-clueless/#ixzz2DLDKr9Rc 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shabibilicious Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 This is nothing more than the Ragin Cajun's attempt at a politcal mind meld, designed to head-butt the gubments spineless fence riders into action.....before this country takes the proverbial belly flop off that money ledge. He obviously resides with that other 20%.....Hoo dat, Hoo daar? As always, just my opinion GO RV, then BV 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 i dont usually agree with what this liar says ,because he usually lies about everything political .. except what he said about obama during the bp oil spill .. but he lies constantly .. but for some reason .. i have to say hes close to telling the truth here .. the only thing id change is the 80% .. id move that up to 100% .. and i would include him also 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizabeth1 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 95 % of all people like to follow.....if we could just stop all political bs republican and democratic we would be better off ...but you can't flip flop all the time tell the truth...that is if you can find it.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp49 Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 i dont usually agree with what this liar says ,because he usually lies about everything political .. except what he said about obama during the bp oil spill .. but he lies constantly .. but for some reason .. i have to say hes close to telling the truth here .. the only thing id change is the 80% .. id move that up to 100% .. and i would include him also :tiphat:src="http://dinarvets.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/tip_hat.gif"> I agree. One plus for you but wish I could give you a hundred! Thanks again dontlop. You're a great American as well as a very wise one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltori Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Yea I would have to agree. Every time I discuss politics with a Dem they are completely bankrupt when it comes to facts or details on propositions etc. but they have no shortage of emotions so it's always uncomfortable to discuss anything political with them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parmenio Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 What say you marxists on this site? Agree or disagree? This may be over your pay grade but you have to back up your statement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerstripes Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 What say you marxists on this site? Agree or disagree? This may be over your pay grade but you have to back up your statement. Well, I'm no Marxist, but you're right - you do have to back up your statement. http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carville.asp Would you mind providing a link to the actual quote and the place and time that it was said? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Looks like he didn't say it. Did a little research on it and apparently it was a lie. : \ Debunked A widespread story circulating on the Internet about James Carville calling 80% of Democrats “politically clueless” has been debunked by IJ Review. Snopes had called the rumor “probably false.”This author reached out to Mr. Carville’s office about the blistering quote and received the following response: Mr. Becker, Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Apparently the quote was falsely posted by an unknown user to a quotations website called thinkexist.com. We have contacted the website and asked them to take the quote down. James Carville never said these words, and this quote in no way belongs to James Carville. The quote posted previously on IJ Review repeating the rumor has been removed. The author encourages other websites to dispute the rumor and to issue retractions as well if necessary. Mr. Carville is a well-respected pundit by both the political right and left, and his professional reputation should remain in tact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerstripes Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Looks like he didn't say it. Did a little research on it and apparently it was a lie. : \ Debunked Amazing what 2 minutes of research can do!!!!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parmenio Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) Well, I'm no Marxist, but you're right - you do have to back up your statement. http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carville.asp Would you mind providing a link to the actual quote and the place and time that it was said? Whether he did or whether he didn't makes no difference to me. Like my father says, " the truth lies somewhere in the middle." What does matter is we have MORONS/TRAITORS who continue to support this coward-in chief. They think too highly of themselves and will go along with the "elite" marxist views thinking they are better than the rest of us. Or, they could be the product of these marxists views and are now too lazy to get out there and earn a living for themselves. They expect "life" to be handed to them. I'm a firm believer of history repeating itself. Read up my friend it may shock you! In the end guess who wins! Edited November 26, 2012 by parmenio 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerstripes Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Whether he did or whether he didn't makes no difference to me. Like my father says, " the truth lies somewhere in the middle." What does matter is we have MORONS/TRAITORS who continue to support this coward-in chief. They think too highly of themselves and will go along with the "elite" marxist views thinking they are better than the rest of us. Or, they could be the product of these marxists views and are now too lazy to get out there and earn a living for themselves. They expect "life" to be handed to them. I'm a firm believer of history repeating itself. Read up my friend it may shock you! In the end guess who wins! Well, as I said before, I'm no Marxist. I really don't think that the president is a Marxist either. In fact, I think he'd make a terrible Marxist. However, I am open to be persuaded. Could you please cite the Marxist policies of the president? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parmenio Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Well, as I said before, I'm no Marxist. I really don't think that the president is a Marxist either. In fact, I think he'd make a terrible Marxist. However, I am open to be persuaded. Could you please cite the Marxist policies of the president? You really don't have a clue do you? 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerstripes Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 You really don't have a clue do you? Marxist policies please! 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) Looks like he didn't say it. Did a little research on it and apparently it was a lie. : \ Debunked so you think someone made up a story and picked this guy out of the clear blue sky to pin it on .. ? ive seen this guy make simular statements on tv after the first romney debate .. either on cnn or msnbc .. he was laughing after he said it as all the liberals were trying to shout him down .. but he just kept on talking ..i think he is really a republican and he most likely voted for romney like clinton did off your link comment David Fryer · Top Commenter Of course when Rush Limbaugh was attacked for making comments about race, slavery, and African-Americans and it was later discovered that he never said them the liberal response was basically that even if he didn't say them he still meant them. Edited November 26, 2012 by dontlop 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liljohn Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 His biggest campaign ploy was about redistribution of wealth, which is in itself a Marxist policy. I start with only one to see the response. GOD BLESS!!! LORD SEND THE RAIN!!! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjon Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Well, as I said before, I'm no Marxist. I really don't think that the president is a Marxist either. In fact, I think he'd make a terrible Marxist. However, I am open to be persuaded. Could you please cite the Marxist policies of the president? Clearly Democratic Socialists of America, a Marxist organization, is the driving force behind the move to socialized health care in the United States. Through activists like John McDonough and Quentin Young, D.S.A. has been able to overtly and covertly influence many U.S. politicians, including President Bill Clinton and both of 2012′s main presidential candidates. If U.S. medicine ever comes under full state control, the blame for that disaster can be laid squarely the door of Democratic Socialists of America. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerstripes Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 His biggest campaign ploy was about redistribution of wealth, which is in itself a Marxist policy. I start with only one to see the response. GOD BLESS!!! LORD SEND THE RAIN!!! Do you mean wealth or income? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarMillionaire Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Read about Obama's Marxist/Socialist life 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liljohn Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Do you mean wealth or income? http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Obama+Marxist+Party&view=detail&mid=A72E792CEB70C815456DA72E792CEB70C815456D&first=0 Redistribution of wealth means taking money from those who earn it and giving it to those who do not. GOD BLESS!!! LORD SEND THE RAIN!!! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerstripes Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Clearly Democratic Socialists of America, a Marxist organization, is the driving force behind the move to socialized health care in the United States. Through activists like John McDonough and Quentin Young, D.S.A. has been able to overtly and covertly influence many U.S. politicians, including President Bill Clinton and both of 2012′s main presidential candidates. If U.S. medicine ever comes under full state control, the blame for that disaster can be laid squarely the door of Democratic Socialists of America. Oh. I see you're going with the favorite - Socialized Health Care. Is it worth pointing out that "Obamacare" was a system designed by a right wing capitalist think tank, that mirrors the plan put in place in Massachusettes by Mitt Romney as governor. Or is it even more worthy to note that the legislation Obama pushed for, is a solution that gives more business to private insurers, rather than a single payer system. As I said before - he would make a terrible marxist. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/opinion/sunday/why-obamacare-is-a-conservatives-dream.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjon Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) The New York Times Sees The Health Care Bill As Marxism. Do You? There has been a lot of ridicule from the "Left" aimed towards Tea Party and the Right Wing Conservatives over the Health Care Bill and the accusing Obama of being a Marxist. It seems to have really rubbed the Liberals the wrong way... No matter how hard the "Right" tries,,, too many leftist simply refuse to see the Marxist Traits that Obama has... Instead of attacking the Tea Party, calling them "Racists" or "Hate Mongers" , etc,etc, did you ever stop to think that these people were merely trying to point something out that you are not seeing? That they may actually be trying to help you? The very core of the Marxist philosophy can be summed up with a quote from Karl himself, "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." ------------Karl Marx, Communist Marxism is all about "Class Warfare" - it is taking money from those "Greedy Rich People" and giving it to those who " who need help"... It is"redistribution of wealth" often sold to the public as "social or economic justice" Obviously, there is more to Marxism, but to put it in those terms keeps it simple here... If you want go here to learn more ---> http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm Don't confuse Marxism with charity, it is far from it... Oh, and you might want to re-asses the way you define greed...Think in terms of "VALUE" not money, you might be able to see a part of the deception. Ronald Reagan said it best, How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin My link Edited November 27, 2012 by jonjon 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerstripes Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 The New York Times Sees The Health Care Bill As Marxism. Do You? There has been a lot of ridicule from the "Left" aimed towards Tea Party and the Right Wing Conservatives over the Health Care Bill and the accusing Obama of being a Marxist. It seems to have really rubbed the Liberals the wrong way... No matter how hard the "Right" tries,,, too many leftist simply refuse to see the Marxist Traits that Obama has... Instead of attacking the Tea Party, calling them "Racists" or "Hate Mongers" , etc,etc, did you ever stop to think that these people were merely trying to point something out that you are not seeing? That they may actually be trying to help you? The very core of the Marxist philosophy can be summed up with a quote from Karl himself, "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." ------------Karl Marx, Communist Marxism is all about "Class Warfare" - it is taking money from those "Greedy Rich People" and giving it to those who " who need help"... It is"redistribution of wealth" often sold to the public as "social or economic justice" Obviously, there is more to Marxism, but to put it in those terms keeps it simple here... If you want go here to learn more ---> http://www.marxists....11/prin-com.htm Don't confuse Marxism with charity, it is far from it... Oh, and you might want to re-asses the way you define greed...Think in terms of "VALUE" not money, you might be able to see a part of the deception. Ronald Reagan said it best, How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin My link So.......did you actually read the New York Times article??? I would be interested to see what sort of a response you would receive from its author, if you were to ask him if he thought the heathcare bill was Marxist. The opinion piece from "Sodahead" says that the article in the New York Times is saying that the healthcare bill is Marxist. The guy writing on Sodahead is displaying confirmation bias. That is, he thinks Obama is a Marxist, this article from the New York Times mentions "addressing economic inequality". Therefore, this article confirms my belief that Obama is a Marxist. Of course, it does no such thing. The statistics mentioned in the article are actually a pretty good indication that economic inequality could use some addressing. "Obviously there is more to Marxism". Of course there is. that is the problem with trying to simplify things like this. Based on your version of Marxism, any government that governs with a broad based, progressive taxation system is Marxist! Should we call Reagan a Marxist? Or either of the Bush's Marxists. No! Of course not. That would be absurd. I'll give you another quote to chew on to contrast with the quote from Marx. Incidentally, that "each according his needs" quote. There is an argument that Marx was paraphrasing the Bible. "Acts" I think it was. "It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion" That quote was from Adam Smith who is widely cited as the father of modern capitalism. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel7 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Looks like he didn't say it. Did a little research on it and apparently it was a lie. : \ Debunked Snopes.com Debunked as a Hoax January 6, 2009 by HeadChuff Legendary urban legend debunking site www.snopes.com has been revealed to be a hoax after all. After nearly 14 years patrolling the internet highways with a truth flashlight and de-misinformation nightstick, website owners Barbara and David P. Mikkelson finally came clean last night and admitted the whole thing was a joke. “We never debunked anything”, Barbara sobbed “Most of the rumours on the site were actually true. We were just bored and hungry so we spent our evenings writing counter-conspiratorial guff to appease the anorak-wearing pedant in us all” My link Yep using the debunked to debunk or better known as Liberal Logic No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerstripes Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Snopes.com Debunked as a Hoax January 6, 2009 by HeadChuff Legendary urban legend debunking site www.snopes.com has been revealed to be a hoax after all. After nearly 14 years patrolling the internet highways with a truth flashlight and de-misinformation nightstick, website owners Barbara and David P. Mikkelson finally came clean last night and admitted the whole thing was a joke. “We never debunked anything”, Barbara sobbed “Most of the rumours on the site were actually true. We were just bored and hungry so we spent our evenings writing counter-conspiratorial guff to appease the anorak-wearing pedant in us all” My link Yep using the debunked to debunk or better known as Liberal Logic No Surrender No Retreat and No Compromise Ummmmmm... I couldn't get you link to work. Is this the article you were posting? http://www.techchuff.com/web-2-0/snopes_hoax If it was (and boy, do I really hope it was), I really think you should take a closer look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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