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Lovely... Just Lovely... another Neg.

Here Are The Ten Commandments... rolleyes.gif

The following is a modern-day Ten Commandments:

  1. Do not worship any other god than the one true God. All other gods are false gods.
  2. Do not make idols or images in the form of God. An idol can be anything (or anyone) you worship by giving it more importance than God. If something (or someone) has your time, attention and affections, it has your worship. It could be an idol in your life.
  3. Do not treat God's name lightly or with disrespect. Because of God's importance, his name is always to be spoken of with honor.
  4. Dedicate or set aside a regular day each week for sabbath rest and worship of the Lord.
  5. Give honor to your father and mother by treating them with respect and obedience.
  6. Do not deliberately kill a fellow human being.
  7. Do not have sexual relations with anyone other than your spouse. God forbids sex outside of the bounds of marriage.
  8. Do not steal or take anything that doesn't belong to you, unless you have been given permission to do so.
  9. Do not tell a lie about someone or bring a false accusation against another person.
  10. Do not desire anything or anyone that does not belong to you. Comparing yourself to others and longing to have what they have leads to jealousy, envy and other sins. Be content by focusing on the blessings God has given you and not what he has not given you.
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The Ten Commandments

King James Version (KJV)

Exodus 20:1-17

1.) And God spake all these words, saying,

2.) I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3.) Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4.) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

5.) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6.) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

7.) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

8.) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9.) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10.) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11.) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

12.) Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

13.) Thou shalt not kill.

14.) Thou shalt not commit adultery.

15.) Thou shalt not steal.

16.) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

17.) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

The above is The Ten Commandments as presented in the King James Version of the Bible. Below is The Ten Commandments in the simplified and numbered form they are usually presented.

The Ten Commandments

1.) Thou shalt have no other gods before me

2.) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image

3.) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain

4.) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy

5.) Honour thy father and thy mother

6.) Thou shalt not kill

7.) Thou shalt not commit adultery

8.) Thou shalt not steal

9.) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10.) Thou shalt not covet

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The Simple Tradition is for me...

The Ten Commandments

1.) Thou shalt have no other gods before me

2.) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image

3.) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain

4.) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy

5.) Honour thy father and thy mother

6.) Thou shalt not kill

7.) Thou shalt not commit adultery

8.) Thou shalt not steal

9.) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10.) Thou shalt not covet

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Well PG if it plays out the way you say You should be a real happy man with all us patriots dead. Yep you and your fellow libs can wallow in your self interest and slap each other on the back and say job well done . Its a shame that a lot of those men you served with will be laying in those mass graves right beside us. But hey that's all right they weren't really your brothers anyway. Right ? And those grand kids of yours they will be just fine growing up with out morals or values that your grandfather held dear. Nope you should be feeling pretty good with 10 million honest men laying dead so you can say "I told you so" hahahaha Yep

GIVE ME LIBRITY OR PLEASE GOD GIVE ME A WARRIORS DEATH

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Hey girl that looks just like one of my charished assault rifles!! My beloved S&W AR-15. I really love her.. She is so beautiful and when I touch her I feel as if I'm going to have a big 'O'!! Haha. She is so nice and gentle. Liberals always say guns are bad, but my AR is so good to me. She protects me from evil people and from this tyrannical govt. The only time I have to disipline her is when she gets around liberals. Then she gets very naughty.....

:lol:/> Perhaps a little too much information.....but I'm feelin' ya!!! ;)/> This is for you....

Begin at 1:36 (The first part of this song is completely nonsensical - HEY...maybe PG can translate for all us clear-thinkers! :P/> Just kiddin' PG...you get a pass!)

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Oh Dog smile.gif (saying it fondly)

Really? You Don't Mean That.

Maggie My mother was a cree a native born in mich. My family has resided in this land long before mich had a thumb. I was taught by my uncles how to hunt and fish in the old fashion. I was taught that one must always stay true to your inner heart. It`s not just about the guns maggie its about freedom and the right to live your life as you see fit. I WILL die before I let them disarm me. I swear this by the spirits of my people.

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Maggie My mother was a cree a native born in mich. My family has resided in this land long before mich had a thumb. I was taught by my uncles how to hunt and fish in the old fashion. I was taught that one must always stay true to your inner heart. It`s not just about the guns maggie its about freedom and the right to live your life as you see fit. I WILL die before I let them disarm me. I swear this by the spirits of my people.

I Hear You Dog smile.gif

We both know all about that kind of freedom... and we also know PG has an "inner heart" too.

Can you just step in his shoes for a minute? I understand why he is angry.

Oh I know he committed the "biggest sin" by voting for Obama... (I really don't think so... he earned his right to vote for who ever he chose to, without ridicule)

If the truth be told NADD started before Obama. I don't like it either, but I'll guarantee you GP is no threat to your rights, nor would he want to be.

You have to admit that their has been a lot of crazy talk (unfounded) about "Libs" taking our guns away. It's the Guberment... Not Lib's! blink.gif

It is the same as blaiming all the problems of this country on Bush. blink.gif Really it has been going on for a long time and we all know it.

So rather than blaiming... let's come together... I don't think we are really that far apart, Dog.

We all want our rights and our guns... just not in the hands of crazy scared people wanting to "Kill The Libs or The Repubs".

Let's all have a good Thanksgiving and be greatful for what we have right now and figure the rest out next week. smile.gif

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I Hear You Dog smile.gif

We both know all about that kind of freedom... and we also know PG has an "inner heart" too.

Can you just step in his shoes for a minute? I understand why he is angry.

Oh I know he committed the "biggest sin" by voting for Obama... (I really don't think so... he earned his right to vote for who ever he chose to, without ridicule)

If the truth be told NADD started before Obama. I don't like it either, but I'll guarantee you GP is no threat to your rights, nor would he want to be.

You have to admit that their has been a lot of crazy talk (unfounded) about "Libs" taking our guns away. It's the Guberment... Not Lib's! blink.gif

It is the same as blaiming all the problems of this country on Bush. blink.gif Really it has been going on for a long time and we all know it.

So rather than blaiming... let's come together... I don't think we are really that far apart, Dog.

We all want our rights and our guns... just not in the hands of crazy scared people wanting to "Kill The Libs or The Repubs".

Let's all have a good Thanksgiving and be greatful for what we have right now and figure the rest out next week. smile.gif

I agree with you maggie have a wonderful holiday. smile.gif

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The Full Article Here: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillarious Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.

Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed.

We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).

DON'T KEEP THIS - SEND IT OUT TO YOUR LIST

False Warning, regulate exports of heavy wpns to foreign countries if you are exporting heavy wpns then this does not pertain to you.

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and if they get away with it, there will be a second civil war that will make the first pale in comparison...

I'm going to have to agree with you big time on this one. The first war reduced our country's population by about 2%. The next one will likely be closer to 47%, depending on if you are armed or not.

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I Hear You Dog smile.gif

We both know all about that kind of freedom... and we also know PG has an "inner heart" too.

Can you just step in his shoes for a minute? I understand why he is angry.

Oh I know he committed the "biggest sin" by voting for Obama... (I really don't think so... he earned his right to vote for who ever he chose to, without ridicule)

If the truth be told NADD started before Obama. I don't like it either, but I'll guarantee you GP is no threat to your rights, nor would he want to be.

You have to admit that their has been a lot of crazy talk (unfounded) about "Libs" taking our guns away. It's the Guberment... Not Lib's! blink.gif

It is the same as blaiming all the problems of this country on Bush. blink.gif Really it has been going on for a long time and we all know it.

So rather than blaiming... let's come together... I don't think we are really that far apart, Dog.

We all want our rights and our guns... just not in the hands of crazy scared people wanting to "Kill The Libs or The Repubs".

Let's all have a good Thanksgiving and be greatful for what we have right now and figure the rest out next week. smile.gif

I am impressed Maggie first time I ever agreed with you. :mellow:

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Do with out guns?

Next we will have to do with out silverware because it can be used to stab someone.

Playing baseball will next be banned because a baseball bat can be used as a club.

Automobiles kill thousands each year, you'll have to give up your car.

Gardening tools are sharp and dangerous to the public, gotta go.

People die from electric shock, so turn off the electricity.

Farm equipment can be deadly if misused, time to grow your own crops.

No more lumber, it to can be made int weapons ( bow and arrows, spears and clubs).

Politicians are deadly because they make laws that can be deadly to others, so politicians must also go.

The Supreme Court has already said that it will not vote against the Constitution. :rulez:/>

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I hear you Maggie your a dear! I really like you!Id give you a kiss

Let me clarify some things.As a soldier at one time when the government the militaries boss

gives you an order you follow that order to a T so when they tell those Kids as you say to collect

the peoples arms they will do it or get shot by there officer in charge right where they stand.

Alot of them will probably go Awol if this happens.But there punishment for awol is not nice.

And Dog I hear you too.Back in the days I would have stood up for our constitution to a T but there

is so much coruption in our world today that guns get used for the dumbest things.I am not saying you

should'nt defend yourselves to protect in what you believe in. theres just to many idiots that believe

in things against what our forefathers taught us.Theres a movement for this and a movement for that

and guns come into play on most things.We cant have folks shooting each other because they dont get there way.

Even england wont let there officers carry weapons only batons and why do you ask.It cuts down on police being

the judge and jury when it comes to crimes.If there is a problem and someone does have a gun they step back

and let special forces take care of the problem.Military mostly are in these positions so they can make the right

decisions for us.Our own courts love guns because they make so much money off them for crimes comitted

with them.In england there crimes comitted with guns is way less than here.

Ive seen drunk rednecks shoot everything that moves when they hunt and just let it lay here in texas.

They dont care at all.Hell just get drunk and shoot guns.This is a problem and most dont even know what

mussel awareness is.You know carry a gun with the barrel pointing in any direction without a thought of where

the bullet went when they shoot.More innocent people get shot then crimminals themselves get shot.

And look at our holidays when I lived in california I lived in longbeach on top of my roof after each holiday

I could find at least 5 or 6 bullets each holiday on my roof and of coarse I turned them in to the police each

holiday as most did.Now just look at how many rounds get shot up into the air during our holidays and the

new years is the worst.I could find at least 10 bullets then.How many bullets does it take for that to happen?

just think of how many didnt land on a house.I lived 28 miles from LA and most of them came from

east LA mexican gang land.and right across from them is watts and el sugundo crips and bloods and each

gang member shooting there guns into the air.millions of bullets into the air.And thats just 3 places.

People get hit in the head and died from these wounds most from stolen guns.So there has to be gun

removal from us citicens for our own protection.Things were alot better in the old days but not today.

This is why I think guns should be taken from us.There are more idiots that carry guns than people

that have good common sense and knows how to use them in a proper way.Its a shame but it has to be DONE.

or our own future will be decided by the barrel of the gun.You know getting robbed everytime we turn around.

Its only getting worse and worse not better.I believe only our military should have guns for our safety

is that such a bad thing?Our constitution is worthless today because of lawyers they punch holes in it

everyday but no one does a dam thing to them for it.Its all about the money they can make in court.

How do you fix that?I hate lawyers more than anyone in this world because they have the power over everyone.

And insurance companies back them because they only want to collect and not pay.Be glad if your one of these

that I dont have a gun because I would wipe out all of them.They took our constitution and walked all over it for

profit.But blame the libs and its not our fault we want peace.Its the dam lawyers and insurance companies

who are our enemies.GO shoot them you have my blessings.Then our constitution will be reinstated as the law.

I am sorry if you are a attorney or lawyer or Insurance company but its YOU who are the problem.

And I absolutley hate you!Bunch of money grubbin punks and you represent what is our law NOW.

PG kicks the hornets nest right into the lawyers of this countrys lap and I hope it stings you so you cant walk

into court to destroy the rest of our constitution.I am not a bad guy I want all of us to live and no one should

be allowed to take another persons life with a gun.Look at it this way if you could buy ANY weapon you wanted

would you and that includes tanks, missles, lars rockets,automatic weapons,even nukes!

etc and most of you would say

HELL YA I rest my case.Its time for guns to go!

Every country back in the days that tried to rule by the sword died by the sword and there country taken anyway.

God said it not me.If I could get over my complex as to how I look I would post a pic of myself and then you

could see what guns did to me and its not purdy either.I have been called every name you could think of

when kids see me and I know its not there faults I am a freak to look at to them.If they only new what I did for them.

This is why I hate guns so much but its my own fault for fighting for this country in which I was proud of.

I still fight for this country even thou I dont leave this house very much.

I have learned I can electronically cause damage to the enemy.So when you see a PG post there is a reason

to my madness.There are things you cant see that I gain access to.I fight for every single person in this forum

on a daily basis and one day they will come for me.I wished that I would have died in the war because I lost

every friend that I have and now I have no friends.Its why I am a little bitter at this country.I voted for Obama

to help finish off this country and then maybe we can get back to old fashion values that we all want.

PG the man with a plan.Our government wants to live by the computor well they trained me so they can

die by the computor.Thank You folks for listening to my rants I am on your side believe it or not.

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And Dog I hear you too.Back in the days I would have stood up for our constitution

Sorry the folks that run things are corrupt, but it not the CONSTITUTION FAULT!! Either you defend her or you stomp on her!! I'm here to Defend!! Your words are no difference then those that have the power to Destroy it!!
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Did I do something to you yota? I respect your thoughts.I am not the enemy.I have looked at how our constitution

is being destroyed who actually changes the laws written in it.I know you like to wave your colors and fought for

this country and took vows to uphold it same as me.But look at it look what we are letting happen to it.

How do you pull the people together to fix it thats what I am trying to figure out.I am looking for answers

but until we can destroy who's doing it the constitution its on its way down and I dont like it same as you.

I know you dont like the way I voted but when he finishes off this country people will know then who

done it.This country will have to go to war against itself to weed out the people who only want to take

from her.So when she bottoms out which wont take to long at the current pace were going.Then the

ones who have not put anything into this country will be the ones who suffer then.They will be the ones

crying in the streets wanting to survive and thats when no one will help them.Cant you see that our government

is wanting to control population and soon that will start.They are going to do everything to piss us off as a

nation so this war can start.Then they can say look what you people have done.You dont think our government is

going to admitt they are the ones who tore us down as a nation.They have plans that we dont see or is written

anywhere to find them.Why do you think all these illegals are coming here? Because they know they can take

from us easy right now and you know we dont have the money to put everyone on welfare.This country is

divided right now and its the ones who dont put in that are going to be killed by the ones who pay in.

Gun laws will soon be put in place and when they collect them when war starts they will issue weapons to

whom they choose to have them for this coming war.And you can bet on it that the ones who dont put in

will be the enemy they will flee from this country and thats when you will win.JMHO

Nothing would please me more than to show you what I have found but I cant post it or they would

come for me.So let the welfare recipents take what they want for now because the gravy train

is about to come to a halt.If you dont think a war is a coming then your head is in the sand.

I know you are a smart man Yota no doubt about that.How else can we save or constitution

I am all ears.Another Civil War thats how.You can see how our own government is doing it now.

we are but lackies to them for profit.And when that profit ends for them they will have to shrink

us down to start all over again.JMHO.I know I make folks mad but I dont mean to.Sometimes the truth

hurts as you have shown me today.I like you Yota and I always have.your a fighter!And thats what

this country needs so bad.Truce my friend?

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I hear you Maggie your a dear! I really like you!Id give you a kiss

Let me clarify some things.As a soldier at one time when the government the militaries boss

gives you an order you follow that order to a T so when they tell those Kids as you say to collect

the peoples arms they will do it or get shot by there officer in charge right where they stand.

Alot of them will probably go Awol if this happens.But there punishment for awol is not nice.

And Dog I hear you too.Back in the days I would have stood up for our constitution to a T but there

is so much coruption in our world today that guns get used for the dumbest things.I am not saying you

should'nt defend yourselves to protect in what you believe in. theres just to many idiots that believe

in things against what our forefathers taught us.Theres a movement for this and a movement for that

and guns come into play on most things.We cant have folks shooting each other because they dont get there way.

Even england wont let there officers carry weapons only batons and why do you ask.It cuts down on police being

the judge and jury when it comes to crimes.If there is a problem and someone does have a gun they step back

and let special forces take care of the problem.Military mostly are in these positions so they can make the right

decisions for us.Our own courts love guns because they make so much money off them for crimes comitted

with them.In england there crimes comitted with guns is way less than here.

Ive seen drunk rednecks shoot everything that moves when they hunt and just let it lay here in texas.

They dont care at all.Hell just get drunk and shoot guns.This is a problem and most dont even know what

mussel awareness is.You know carry a gun with the barrel pointing in any direction without a thought of where

the bullet went when they shoot.More innocent people get shot then crimminals themselves get shot.

And look at our holidays when I lived in california I lived in longbeach on top of my roof after each holiday

I could find at least 5 or 6 bullets each holiday on my roof and of coarse I turned them in to the police each

holiday as most did.Now just look at how many rounds get shot up into the air during our holidays and the

new years is the worst.I could find at least 10 bullets then.How many bullets does it take for that to happen?

just think of how many didnt land on a house.I lived 28 miles from LA and most of them came from

east LA mexican gang land.and right across from them is watts and el sugundo crips and bloods and each

gang member shooting there guns into the air.millions of bullets into the air.And thats just 3 places.

People get hit in the head and died from these wounds most from stolen guns.So there has to be gun

removal from us citicens for our own protection.Things were alot better in the old days but not today.

This is why I think guns should be taken from us.There are more idiots that carry guns than people

that have good common sense and knows how to use them in a proper way.Its a shame but it has to be DONE.

or our own future will be decided by the barrel of the gun.You know getting robbed everytime we turn around.

Its only getting worse and worse not better.I believe only our military should have guns for our safety

is that such a bad thing?Our constitution is worthless today because of lawyers they punch holes in it

everyday but no one does a dam thing to them for it.Its all about the money they can make in court.

How do you fix that?I hate lawyers more than anyone in this world because they have the power over everyone.

And insurance companies back them because they only want to collect and not pay.Be glad if your one of these

that I dont have a gun because I would wipe out all of them.They took our constitution and walked all over it for

profit.But blame the libs and its not our fault we want peace.Its the dam lawyers and insurance companies

who are our enemies.GO shoot them you have my blessings.Then our constitution will be reinstated as the law.

I am sorry if you are a attorney or lawyer or Insurance company but its YOU who are the problem.

And I absolutley hate you!Bunch of money grubbin punks and you represent what is our law NOW.

PG kicks the hornets nest right into the lawyers of this countrys lap and I hope it stings you so you cant walk

into court to destroy the rest of our constitution.I am not a bad guy I want all of us to live and no one should

be allowed to take another persons life with a gun.Look at it this way if you could buy ANY weapon you wanted

would you and that includes tanks, missles, lars rockets,automatic weapons,even nukes!

etc and most of you would say

HELL YA I rest my case.Its time for guns to go!

Every country back in the days that tried to rule by the sword died by the sword and there country taken anyway.

God said it not me.If I could get over my complex as to how I look I would post a pic of myself and then you

could see what guns did to me and its not purdy either.I have been called every name you could think of

when kids see me and I know its not there faults I am a freak to look at to them.If they only new what I did for them.

This is why I hate guns so much but its my own fault for fighting for this country in which I was proud of.

I still fight for this country even thou I dont leave this house very much.

I have learned I can electronically cause damage to the enemy.So when you see a PG post there is a reason

to my madness.There are things you cant see that I gain access to.I fight for every single person in this forum

on a daily basis and one day they will come for me.I wished that I would have died in the war because I lost

every friend that I have and now I have no friends.Its why I am a little bitter at this country.I voted for Obama

to help finish off this country and then maybe we can get back to old fashion values that we all want.

PG the man with a plan.Our government wants to live by the computor well they trained me so they can

die by the computor.Thank You folks for listening to my rants I am on your side believe it or not.

I can see where your coming from. I agree litigation has ruined the constitution as well as various forms of corruption. The very problem is government, who establishes those regulations and laws that control the courts and insurance. So you want just the government and criminals to have guns? I agree it's one giant cluster muck. I agree there are fools who own weapons unfortunately there will always be weapons and fools, so it just seems smart that I own one. I know how to store, clean and the safety involved with owning a gun.

Our country is changing rapidly. I believe even if there were to be a "hypothetical" revolution that regular citizens don't stand a chance against a massive war machine. I feel hopeless due to all the divisions in our country, there is no turning back, well there is but I'm afraid it will be the ultimate price...just to be turned around again. The times are a changing, I already have the means to seek residency in another country and have two friends who are actively pursuing the same thing. I know I'm running but this system is stifling and no one can unite for the common good. Hopefully I get my dual passport soon! What motivates me are my kids, I want them to be as free as possible, if that means going global , well, so be it. Peace to all.

Thank you for your service to our country friend.

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