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Gaza death toll passes 100 as truce efforts build


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AFP Updated November 20, 2012, 6:07 am

GAZA CITY, Palestinian Territories (AFP) - Israeli strikes killed 30 Palestinians on Monday, taking the Gaza death toll to 107 as UN chief Ban Ki-moon joined efforts to end the worst violence in four years and Israel's inner circle of ministers mulled their next move.

As the violence raged for a sixth day, an Israeli missile killed a senior Islamic Jihad militant in a Gaza City tower housing Palestinian and international media, the second time in as many days it has been targeted.

With Ban in Cairo pushing for a ceasefire, Hamas chief Khaled Meshaal said his movement was committed to efforts to secure a truce, but insisted that Israel must lift its six-year blockade of the Gaza Strip.

Terrified and desperate, many Gaza families have fled their homes, some seeking haven in the south which has seen fewer strikes. But they know nowhere is safe.

"My son Mohammed refuses to eat. He follows me everywhere because he's so scared and asks me every 10 minutes when we're going to die," said Umm Jihad, 37.

Mourners flocked to the funeral of nine members of one family killed in a weekend strike on a Gaza City home, the tiny bodies of the five children carried through the streets wrapped in Palestinian flags.

As the overall death toll in Gaza hit 107, with another 30 people killed on Monday making it the bloodiest day so far, the Israeli army said that 42 rockets had struck Israel and another 19 had been intercepted by the Iron Dome defence system.

To date, the military has struck more than 1,350 targets in Gaza, and 640 rockets have hit southern Israel while another 324 have been intercepted.

The violence, coming ahead of an Israeli general election on January 22, raised the spectre of a broader Israeli military campaign like its 22-day Operation Cast Lead, launched at the end of December 2008.

Analysts say the Israeli leadership appears satisfied with the success of Operation Pillar of Defence and that it could be ready for a ceasefire.

But the Jewish state has also signalled a readiness to expand the operation.

Ministers in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's inner circle -- the Forum of Nine -- were reportedly in talks over whether to agree to a ceasefire or expand the air campaign into a wider ground operation.

Israeli public radio said the meeting late Monday would touch on an Egyptian ceasefire proposal that emerged following a full day of indirect negotiations in Cairo between Israeli officials and Palestinian representatives.

The report said Israel wanted to see a 24- to 48-hour truce take effect that could then be used to negotiate the finer details of a full ceasefire.

The latest negotiations aimed at ending the conflict, conducted behind closed doors in Cairo, ended without agreement. But all sides have expressed a willingness to engage in more talks.

The UN chief flew to Egypt "to add his diplomatic weight to these efforts, which are considerable and extremely important," his spokesman Martin Nesirky said.

As Russia accused the United States of seeking to "filibuster" a UN Security Council statement on Gaza amid prolonged talks by the 15-nation body, Ban was to meet Egypt's Foreign Minister Mohammed Kamel Amr, and President Mohamed Morsi and Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi on Tuesday, Nesirky said.

He will then go to Jerusalem to see Israeli leaders but has no plan to go to Gaza.

The League's Arabi is due in Gaza on Tuesday, accompanied by Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu and several Arab top diplomats, in the latest in a series of visits that have eased the long diplomatic isolation of the territory's Hamas rulers.

Israel was also seeking a ceasefire, with Netanyahu himself having "called the US, Europe and Egypt asking for a truce," said Meshaal.

"We are not against a calming, but we want our demands... to end the thuggery, to end the aggression and to lift the blockade," he said.

An Egyptian official who spoke to AFP before Meshaal's statement reported "encouraging signs."

"I hope, that maybe by the end of the day, we receive a final signal of what may be achieved to stop hostilities," he said.

"Both sides are saying a ceasefire is important and that there should be guarantees, but these guarantees are different."

Hamas is also understood to be seeking guarantees Israel will stop its targeted killings, like the one which killed a top military commander on Wednesday, sparking the current hostilities.

Israel has its own demands, with Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman insisting "the first and absolute condition for a truce is stopping all fire from Gaza."

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/world/15418850/gaza-death-toll-passes-100-as-truce-efforts-build/

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Let isreal bomb the crap out of them until they stop firing their rockets! They will stop if the U.N. would quit trying to make the issue that isreal is the aggressor! And the people would stop supporting Hamas and other terrorist like them! The people in the Gaza support the rocket attacks.... so I don't feel for them one bit. Israel has the right to defend themselves as they see fit. Just think what would happen if the rockets were being shot into the United States????

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Eh, who's really surprised anymore. If it were as simple as he claims I doubt this conversation would even be happening. Funny thing is, he probably thinks he's a Christian too.

I'm sure he doesn't 'think' he's a Christian... if he has accepted Christ as his Saviour then he KNOWS it.

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Oh, right, I forgot that accept jesus gives you carte blanche to say and do whatever you want.

Nope it doesn't, it just means that you're saved... stay on topic and you wouldn't have to be worrying about someone's Christianity.

Oh, right, I forgot that accept jesus gives you carte blanche to say and do whatever you want.

Nope it doesn't, it just means that you're saved... stay on topic and you wouldn't have to be worrying about someone's Christianity.

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Nope it doesn't, it just means that you're saved... stay on topic and you wouldn't have to be worrying about someone's Christianity.

You go Bamagirl. Lostenso is just another lost soul. Thank God we Christians are around to pray for the lost souls.

Lostenso you tend to not really put your 2 cents on the post, but rather an instigator towards some members. Your views would be nice.

Israel has one major ally left in the world, and that is America. If America is forced to bow to its knees to the god of Islam, then Israel will stand alone against not only the Islamic fundamentalist nations but also the European Union and the United Nations.

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I'm anti war. The Israeli's and the religious fanatics in Gaza need to work it out. Their conflict has been ongoing for many years. American taxpayers should not be on the hook to support conflict in the region. Israel needs to spend their own cash resources to support their cause. American taxpayers can no longer be the hall monitor of the world from a military stand point.

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The Israeli's and the religious fanatics in Gaza need to work it out.

There are just as many religious fanatics in Israel as there are in Gaza.

Lostenso you tend to not really put your 2 cents on the post, but rather an instigator towards some members. Your views would be nice.

I've provided plenty. They just happen to not be aligned with the majority of the people on this site so they're quickly ruled out as angry, liberal, commie, jew-hating, blah de blah blah blah.

If you want to look past those common labels be my guest and re-read some of my posts, you'll know exactly how I view things.

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If Hamas does not want to be bombed, stop sending over rockets.

Israel created Hamas. So does Israel want to be bombed so that they can bomb back?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html

So interesting for all this to just coincidentally heat up as soon as the election was over. Couldn't be that they were waiting to see if Mitt could get the U.S. into the fun and games, huh?

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Hooray for Isreal!!!!!!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EERRRRAAAAAAAYYYYYY

Dont praise too soon...Umbertino posted earlier

that he thought the children of mine makers should

walk through a field of mines....very compassionate.

Hey cris, love u man, there are a few here that also need to walk through a mine field!!!! I would love to make them walk the plank with my AR bud!! Hahahaha

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Hooray for Isreal!!!!!!! KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EERRRRAAAAAAAYYYYYY

Hey cris, love u man, there are a few here that also need to walk through a mine field!!!! I would love to make them walk the plank with my AR bud!! Hahahaha

They would never kill them all. They always need a boogie man so that fools will give them sympathy, send them money and fall for the same garbage over and over again. They probably get a very good laugh at the fools expense too. :blink:

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They would never kill them all. They always need a boogie man so that fools will give them sympathy, send them money and fall for the same garbage over and over again. They probably get a very good laugh at the fools expense too. :blink:/>

Great point rothsdad! You seem to be a very knowlegeable person.

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Dont praise too soon...Umbertino posted earlier

that he thought the children of mine makers should

walk through a field of mines....very compassionate.

True... I think it's coherent.....And I never claimed to be perfect either.. I have my moments of rage like most.

My point is that they should try the same pain they inflict other people ( mostly children) with their industrial product ( mines)... It's impossible to feel any justification towards somebody who decided to get into the mine business..

And let me remind you that in my earlier post I stated that unfortunately Italy ( my Country) is among the biggest producers of that death and /or amputation tool...I obviously hate it.

And I don't care what political side mine makers work for.. That's of course totally irrelevant.....They're just bastards and even more are those making mines appear like colorful toys. I don't think anybody could argue with that.

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Thank You Umbertino...

I could not figure out where cris's comment was coming from. ohmy.gif

That certainly did not sound like anything you would say... when you explain... well I think it actually is a "compassionate" statement.

I mean really... WHO would try to make a dollar from making land mines that look like colorful toys??? angry.gif

I'm sure if in your moment of rage (Which I Feel Too) had you paused a moment you would have said...

"The ******** that make them should be the ones to walk through that field".

I dare anyone to argue with your point... Whoever makes them... IS ABSOLUTELY EVIL... through and through.

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Thank You Umbertino...

I could not figure out where cris's comment was coming from. ohmy.gif

That certainly did not sound like anything you would say... when you explain... well I think it actually is a "compassionate" statement.

I mean really... WHO would try to make a dollar from making land mines that look like colorful toys??? angry.gif

I'm sure if in your moment of rage (Which I Feel Too) had you paused a moment you would have said...

"The ******** that make them should be the ones to walk through that field".

I dare anyone to argue with your point... Whoever makes them... IS ABSOLUTELY EVIL... through and through.

Thank you, Maggie.

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People get all choked up when an Israeli bomb hits a home where a kid is killed. People also forget that these people in Hamas often use innocents as human shields or infiltrate neighborhoods putting innocents at risk. I do not see these same people getting in arms and all in a tither when one of the bombers from Hamas blows up a bus where Israeli innocents are lost or when Hamas blows up a shopping area that is clearly non-combatants.

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