Romney expands false Jeep-to-China ad campaign

[Snotrocket]

simple - do you really think we can believe what these bailout whores at Chrysler say? They're just denying to stay on their pimp's (O) good side. To further the analogy....they're in business to make money - if they can make more working the other side of the street then they will.

[BradyBear]

Can any one explain why the Dumbocrats can follow the teachings of Hitler; tell a lye , tell it often enough and loud enough and the people will believe it! Which is what all their ads do since the Leader has absolutely done nothing for the last 4 years except trash our wonderful country and it's people! Promised it would be a one term deal if he didn't fix things and then is running again to trash the country and people even more with his Socialist crap!

Yet, they try to tell FALSE lies about a great Businessman which is what our country and people need! A good government is run like a business not a Socialist Hand-out!

[simple]

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises >>>

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html

bloomberg report ut oh

Unbelievable, simply unbelievable you can't interpret simple language. Jeep were built in China before, 2009. They're hoping to re-open and perhaps build more of their models for China. They were not shipped to the U.S. Output means production. Production is for China sells. Automakers do those things, produce in-country for in-country sales.

[dontlop]

didnt we lose 250,000 auto worker jobs under clinto .. how many steel worker jobs were lost under clinton ... heck how many manufacturing jobs were lost in clintons last 5 years .. 3.5 million i believe is the number .. but he created hotel jobs resturant jobs walmart jobs for his buddys from arkansaw the walden family .. ya where hilary worked on walmarts law firm .. ya they sold out america making china americas most favored trading partner for the walden family .. yes those darn democrats outsourcing and selling out our manufacturing sector reminds me of obama .. you did notice outsourcing wasnt even a topic of discussion in the 2006 debates .. 2008 debates .. 2010 debates .. bushs policies took care of that ,, but since obama and his clan took over ,, here we are outsourcing again .. the dems do it while accusing the republicans ..

how do the dems do it ..they force businesses out of our country by systematically regulating them out one regulation at a time till they are gone.. they get paid bid money from other contrys of the world to shut down american businesses ,,,.. why ? .. because once the competition is gone in the united states . the same business will thrive in their country .. so they pay for enviromental groups to propagandize our country right out of business .. under the armor of the left wing europenis democrat party

[DinarMillionaire]

Cris, this could really go all day.... LOL

eastcreek, Chrysler is calling Romney a liar. They tried setting him straight but he only toned it down. Romney said he wanted no part of the auto industry as a young man and decided on other business besides his father's.

If they can't compete in China sells from abroad and want to expand - that's business. Has nothing to do with the U.S. - Ford builds in several other countries. Toyota build in the U.S. for U.S. sales. Show some smarts. Acquaint yourself with your own ignorance, please.

Thanks for answering what we've all been trying to get you to admit...

Romney's RIGHT!

Edited October 30, 2012 by DinarMillionaire

[simple]

simple - do you really think we can believe what these bailout whores at Chrysler say? They're just denying to stay on their pimp's (O) good side. To further the analogy....they're in business to make money - if they can make more working the other side of the street then they will.

Nuff said - Cris, they beat me down :DLOL .... Better go practice my short game.

didnt we lose 250,000 auto worker jobs under clinto .. how many steel worker jobs were lost under clinton ... heck how many manufacturing jobs were lost in clintons last 5 years .. 3.5 million i believe is the number .. but he created hotel jobs resturant jobs walmart jobs for his buddys from arkansaw the walden family .. ya where hilary worked on walmarts law firm .. ya they sold out america making china americas most favored trading partner for the walden family .. yes those darn democrats outsourcing and selling out our manufacturing sector reminds me of obama .. you did notice outsourcing wasnt even a topic of discussion in the 2006 debates .. 2008 debates .. 2010 debates .. bushs policies took care of that ,, but since obama and his clan took over ,, here we are outsourcing again .. the dems do it while accusing the republicans ..

how do the dems do it ..they force businesses out of our country by systematically regulating them out one regulation at a time till they are gone.. they get paid bid money from other contrys of the world to shut down american businesses ,,,.. why ? .. because once the competition is gone in the united states . the same business will thrive in their country .. so they pay for enviromental groups to propagandize our country right out of business .. under the armor of the left wing europenis democrat party

WHAT LOL!!!! No reason to leave.... Don, I'm convinced, there is something seriously wrong.

Chrysler Tops U.S. Carmakers in Best Month Since Clunkers

U.S. auto sales in August continued to outpace the anemic economic recovery, smash through estimates and deliver a good-news story for President Barack Obama and the Democrats just in time for their convention.

[dontlop]

Nuff said - Cris, they beat me down :DLOL .... Better go practice my short game.

lol

i do see what your saying .. and fiat is saying they want to build 500,000 vehicles in china .. not all of them... this is how lots of businesses work .. most companies own plants over seas to cut out the shipping costs ..but theres alot of empty boats returning to china these days .. we could fill them with some of our goods .. like jeeps .. they bailed out chrysler with our tax dollars we own them right .. didnt obama fire gm executive .. come on its a government facility now ,,, ask obama .. he nationalized it when he fired the ceo of general motors,, obama always wanted a job at a auto company he wasnt smart enough ,, so now we pay the price of his idiot - ology

[simple]

Thanks for answering what we've all been trying to get you to admit...

Romney's RIGHT!

You just cannot discuss to mutual point. If that what you got I'm glad I could help. Enough of slinging the 'ignorant' word.

You asked me what does the term model means, as in the car industry. Wonder what it meant to you, in the car industry.

lol

i do see what your saying .. and fiat is saying they want to build 500,000 vehicles in china .. not all of them... this is how lots of businesses work .. most companies own plants over seas to cut out the shipping costs ..but theres alot of empty boats returning to china these days .. we could fill them with some of our goods .. like jeeps .. they bailed out chrysler with our tax dollars we own them right .. didnt obama fire gm executive .. come on its a government facility now ,,, ask obama .. he nationalized it when he fired the ceo of general motors,, obama always wanted a job at a auto company he wasnt smart enough ,, so now we pay the price of his idiot - ology

Enough - thanks for the chat.

[dontlop]

Nuff said - Cris, they beat me down :DLOL .... Better go practice my short game.

WHAT LOL!!!! No reason to leave.... Don, I'm convinced, there is something seriously wrong.

Chrysler Tops U.S. Carmakers in Best Month Since Clunkers

U.S. auto sales in August continued to outpace the anemic economic recovery, smash through estimates and deliver a good-news story for President Barack Obama and the Democrats just in time for their convention.

wow in best month since clunkers .. now thats good . they couldnt beat the clunker month but they beat all the other crapy months .. what did it do go up 3% from terrible

simple i sat here and laughed at every post .. thanks for the entertainment ,, im voting romney no matter what .. obama is toast plan your future accordingly

[simple]

simple i sat here and laughed at every post .. thanks for the entertainment ,, im voting romney no matter what ..

Makes sense dontlop.

[DinarMillionaire]

You just cannot discuss to mutual point. If that what you got I'm glad I could help. Enough of slinging the 'ignorant' word. I refrained until you said, "Show some smarts." So I said, "Acquaint yourself with your own ignorance, please."

You asked me what does the term model means, as in the car industry. Wonder what it meant to you, in the car industry.

"Model" is a subset of cars, trucks or suv's. Under the term "cars, et al" you have many makes and "models". "Model" can be equated to "style".

[dontlop]

im not voting for my own interests .. im voting for the kids .. the ones that are voting for obama .. im voting against obama to cancil out an obama vote ..the objective of our govt is to educate the young to vote for the policies that will eventually be corupt .. that way when they are old and they get ripped off they can not complain .. they voted for it .... but as they get older they realized they are screwed ..theres nothing they can do about it because theres another generation right behind them chanting for more of what they have finally found out to be a huge scam on the american citizens .... they make these programs so huge that it is impossible to find out where they are stealing the money from .. like social security .. medicaid medicare .... they accountants must be getting close so they need another outlet to steal money .. so they come up with obama care ..the others will just go bankrupt on their own .. the books will be closed for investigation for 50 years or so .. and the new generations can start all over investigating where all the money is going .... isnt this fun ..one big fat corupt bunch of lying thieves .. with nuclear bombs to protect them .. and we helped ,, god have mercy on the innocent ..

[desimo]

If you think Obama has fulfilled his job description and has been good for the country then keep him. But do not go stupid with he lied, she lied. They ALL lie. Big deal, that is today's politics. If you think O has been good for the country keep him and if not fire him. IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

[dontlop]

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat and Guangzhou’s plant in Changsha in central China has initial annual capacity of 140,000 cars and is capable of eventually assembling 500,000 vehicles per year. The automakers will add production of a new vehicle to the factory roughly every 12 months and began building the Fiat Viaggio compact there in June.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html

fiat owns chrysler.. forget what chrysler says .. fiat says they are moving to china ..they are moving to china...

joy global mining company .. 5.5 billion a year sales .. big outfit .. world wide .. told all of its employees right up to the day they were gettig laid off .. that everything about china was rumors ..they cant tell its employees that next year you wont have a job .. can you imagine the product they would be putting out after a statement like that .. they never tell any one any thing .. but fiat doesnt care ...they will say anything they want about chrysler .. what are they going to do about it .. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html

just look at the last paragrah in this article .. one new vehicle every 12 months to china production

ya romney is just a liar .. till it happens then the democrats wont want to talk about it ever again .. if you watch the democrat party for 25 30 years you know everything you need to know about that corupt pile of liars

Edited October 30, 2012 by dontlop

[new york kevin]

I believe that this article is accurate. What is questionable, the fact that Chrysler is currently owned by Fiat an ITALIAN COMPANY? Or is the question about moving the jobs to Italy? It is great that the SPINSTERS ( Masters of SPIN) are so quickly saying that Fiat the parent company of Chrysler is looking to expand sales in the country of China? While Fiat is saying that it is looking to move production of its cars to China. If it moves its production process to China it ain't that big a stretch that Jeep production will be moved to China. Its just a business decision after all???

By the way, REMEMBER THAT GM UNDER OBAMA'S DIRECTION SOLD THE HUMMER BRAND (A MILITARY VEHICLE IN ORIGIN) TO A CHINA BASED COMPANY. If Obama did it once, he will do it again. This time with the Jeep, another vehicle that had its origins as a military vehicle.

[stonewall67]

SEE CHRYSLER, NOT DEMOCRATS

That's pretty cold harted on your part simple..... Blame Chrysler and not the democrats??? It was the Democrats that pushed through Chryslers bailout and over saw the subsequent sale to Fiat!! The fact of the matter is, tax payer money was spent on a company and now that company will shift production to another country!!!

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/30/chrysler-ceo-jeep-production-isnt-moving-to-china/

Here is an article from the lefts talking rag..... Notice how they say that only production of vehicles that will be sold locally in China will be made in China..... Let's say that's true.... If Chrysler makes 10 jeeps in Michigan to be sold world wide and now they will only make 7 jeeps to be sold here and 3 jeeps will be made in China to be sold in China, do you think they will then not cut back on workers here?? Of course they will!! The simple problem was that government should never have gone in and bailed ANYONE out!!! That includes Bush and positively includes Obama!!!! Chrysler should have gone through bankruptcy!!!!!!!! Period!!!!! Now they have millions of tax payers money and the jobs will be somewhere other than here!!!!

Cris, this could really go all day.... LOL

eastcreek, Chrysler is calling Romney a liar. They tried setting him straight but he only toned it down. Romney said he wanted no part of the auto industry as a young man and decided on other business besides his father's.

If they can't compete in China sells from abroad and want to expand - that's business. Has nothing to do with the U.S. - Ford builds in several other countries. Toyota build in the U.S. for U.S. sales. Show some smarts.

Ford didn't take bailout money!!! Neither did Toyota!!!!

[simple]

I believe that this article is accurate. What is questionable, the fact that Chrysler is currently owned by Fiat an ITALIAN COMPANY? Or is the question about moving the jobs to Italy? It is great that the SPINSTERS ( Masters of SPIN) are so quickly saying that Fiat the parent company of Chrysler is looking to expand sales in the country of China? While Fiat is saying that it is looking to move production of its cars to China. If it moves its production process to China it ain't that big a stretch that Jeep production will be moved to China. Its just a business decision after all???

By the way, REMEMBER THAT GM UNDER OBAMA'S DIRECTION SOLD THE HUMMER BRAND (A MILITARY VEHICLE IN ORIGIN) TO A CHINA BASED COMPANY. If Obama did it once, he will do it again. This time with the Jeep, another vehicle that had its origins as a military vehicle.

Huh, Chyrsler wants to return to producing jeeps in China as they have done before. China is a big market for jeeps and they hope to produce and sell other Chrysler models there as well. SEE CHRYSLER.... This thing has been spun out of control like intended - just from the story Romney read then created an ad campaign using half truths. He said he read it but perhaps he didn't, much like a lot of you guys.

That's pretty cold harted on your part simple..... Blame Chrysler and not the democrats??? It was the Democrats that pushed through Chryslers bailout and over saw the subsequent sale to Fiat!! The fact of the matter is, tax payer money was spent on a company and now that company will shift production to another country!!!

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/30/chrysler-ceo-jeep-production-isnt-moving-to-china/

Here is an article from the lefts talking rag..... Notice how they say that only production of vehicles that will be sold locally in China will be made in China..... Let's say that's true.... If Chrysler makes 10 jeeps in Michigan to be sold world wide and now they will only make 7 jeeps to be sold here and 3 jeeps will be made in China to be sold in China, do you think they will then not cut back on workers here?? Of course they will!! The simple problem was that government should never have gone in and bailed ANYONE out!!! That includes Bush and positively includes Obama!!!! Chrysler should have gone through bankruptcy!!!!!!!! Period!!!!! Now they have millions of tax payers money and the jobs will be somewhere other than here!!!!

Ford didn't take bailout money!!! Neither did Toyota!!!!

Way off base Stone, read more of the thread. SEE CHRYSLER MEANT THEIR WEBSITE FOR THE STATEMENTS THEY ANNOUNCED... Bottomline, Chrysler isn't moving but re-opening production in China to be competitive. Romney have put the scare in the people. Can't blame them for stepping up and capitalizing on the jeep market. They also announced hiring another 1,100 people in the states. Romney read the same posts from Chrysler as we read.

Edited October 30, 2012 by simple

[stonewall67]

Huh, Chyrsler wants to return to producing jeeps in China as they have done before. China is a big market for jeeps and they hope to produce and sell other Chrysler models there as well. SEE CHRYSLER.... This thing has been spun out of control like intended - just from the story Romney read then created an ad campaign using half truths. He said he read it but perhaps he didn't, much like a lot of you guys.

Way off base Stone, read more of the thread. SEE CHRYSLER MEANT THEIR WEBSITE FOR THE STATEMENTS THEY ANNOUNCED... Bottomline, Chrysler isn't moving but re-opening production in China to be competitive. Romney have put the scare in the people. Can't blame them for stepping up and capitalizing on the jeep market. They also announced hiring another 1,100 people in the states. Romney read the same posts from Chrysler as we read.

You miss the point as well simple..... If all jeeps are made in here in the USA and they start making Jeeps in China, then the amount of jeeps coming off the production line here will be LESS!!!! Less cars coming off the production means less people needed to produce said cars! As for Chrysler SAYING they will hire 1100 new people..... Let's wait and see.....

My point is this.... Chrysler has the right to do what ever it feels it needs to do to help bolster it's bottom line. However, before they start shipping jobs away from here, pay off what you owe the tax payer!!!! As for Romney being wrong.... He was actually right.... CHRYSLER HAS DECIDED TO START MAKING JEEPS IN CHINA AGAIN!!!!!! That's what the man said and Chrysler has confirmed what the man said!!!! How can you state that Romney is lying and then defend the very thing he supposedly lied about???

[dontlop]

Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.

Fiat and Guangzhou’s plant in Changsha in central China has initial annual capacity of 140,000 cars and is capable of eventually assembling 500,000 vehicles per year. The automakers will add production of a new vehicle to the factory roughly every 12 months and began building the Fiat Viaggio compact there in June.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html

fiat owns chrysler.. forget what chrysler says .. fiat says they are moving to china ..they are moving to china...

joy global mining company .. 5.5 billion a year sales .. big outfit .. world wide .. told all of its employees right up to the day they were gettig laid off .. that everything about china was rumors ..they cant tell its employees that next year you wont have a job .. can you imagine the product they would be putting out after a statement like that .. they never tell any one any thing .. but fiat doesnt care ...they will say anything they want about chrysler .. what are they going to do about it .. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html

just look at the last paragrah in this article .. one new vehicle every 12 months to china production

ya romney is just a liar .. till it happens then the democrats wont want to talk about it ever again .. if you watch the democrat party for 25 30 years you know everything you need to know about that corupt pile of liars

Edited October 30, 2012 by dontlop

[simple]

You miss the point as well simple..... If all jeeps are made in here in the USA and they start making Jeeps in China, then the amount of jeeps coming off the production line here will be LESS!!!! Less cars coming off the production means less people needed to produce said cars! As for Chrysler SAYING they will hire 1100 new people..... Let's wait and see.....

My point is this.... Chrysler has the right to do what ever it feels it needs to do to help bolster it's bottom line. However, before they start shipping jobs away from here, pay off what you owe the tax payer!!!! As for Romney being wrong.... He was actually right.... CHRYSLER HAS DECIDED TO START MAKING JEEPS IN CHINA AGAIN!!!!!! That's what the man said and Chrysler has confirmed what the man said!!!! How can you state that Romney is lying and then defend the very thing he supposedly lied about???

I've been waiting on that argument Stonewall... Then let's just wait for it all to drop in place... no jobs lost, no new 1,100 jobs. Romney jumping forward with accusations that haven't happened. That seems to be a trend with Romney. Wouldn't you say that?

One thing quite clear, Romney or no one else can prevent a company from expanding. But Romney is saying he would keep the jobs here. Romney said they're moving production to China to create a scare.

You miss the point as well simple..... If all jeeps are made in here in the USA and they start making Jeeps in China, then the amount of jeeps coming off the production line here will be LESS!!!! Less cars coming off the production means less people needed to produce said cars! As for Chrysler SAYING they will hire 1100 new people..... Let's wait and see.....

My point is this.... Chrysler has the right to do what ever it feels it needs to do to help bolster it's bottom line. However, before they start shipping jobs away from here, pay off what you owe the tax payer!!!! As for Romney being wrong.... He was actually right.... CHRYSLER HAS DECIDED TO START MAKING JEEPS IN CHINA AGAIN!!!!!! That's what the man said and Chrysler has confirmed what the man said!!!! How can you state that Romney is lying and then defend the very thing he supposedly lied about???

BTW: at least you bring some brain cells into the discussion.

[new york kevin]

SIMPLE IS AS SIMPLE DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!

[simple]

SIMPLE IS AS SIMPLE DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!

You just felt a need to throw a punch?

[DinarMillionaire]

BTW: at least you bring some brain cells into the discussion.

Just about everyone opposed to your way of thinking has "brought brain cells" into the discussion, you just don't get it and apparently never will, because it requires brain cells, logic and common sense, something your sorely lacking, to understand what Romney (and the rest of us) are saying.

You cry, when I rightly call you "ignorant", yet, you make snippy degrading remarks (which covers everybody who has opposed you in this thread) and expect nothing in return, doesn't work that way. Which is another show of ignorance, BTW.

Regarding your comment to new york kevin...You throw 'em first, we'll answer back. That's how that works.

Edited October 30, 2012 by DinarMillionaire

[simple]

Just about everyone opposed to your way of thinking has "brought brain cells" into the discussion, you just don't get it and apparently never will, because it requires brain cells, logic and common sense, something your sorely lacking, to understand what Romney (and the rest of us) are saying.

You cry, when I rightly call you "ignorant", yet, you make snippy degrading remarks (which covers everybody who has opposed you in this thread) and expect nothing in return, doesn't work that way. Which is another show of ignorance, BTW.

Regarding your comment to new york kevin...You throw 'em first, we'll answer back. That's how that works.

If trying to get under my skin it's not working. Man you're persistent, I'm not stooping to that level tonight.

[tommy17]

I talked to a good friend of mine whose dad owns 2 dealships in town chrysler and chevy . He said sales of chevy to chrysler is almost 2 to 1 and he said that being generous. He said poor quality and reliabilty ratings have hurt chrysler for a number of years. He said they've had 3 new dodge darts on the lot for over 2 months and when people compare the chevy sonic and cruze whose base price is thousands cheaper and 40 mpg hwy compared to 29 on the dart with a 4 cyclinder it's not a hard decision. This is easily varifiable on the internet on car and driver on model specs.....He said chrsyler is hurting ,due to not having alot of economy cars compared to chevy and ford.

and foriegn cars. With gas prices over 3 dollars a gallion all auto the makers are hurting other than the sales of some subcompacts.. Why would anybody hire over 1100 employess when they're sales and product line lags behind everybody else? Saying and doing is 2 different things. Especially with a election year and a president who used tax payers dollars to bail Chrysler) them out.