Popular Post DinarThug Posted October 21, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 CNN. Broadcasting From BondLady's WoodShed ! BondLady addresses another sites comments........ To set the record straight - another site out there, i used to go and visit, many of their members are my members too, and many kept showing comments to me in "im's" made by several and comments they would also make in my defense, of my opinions, ....of the events taking place with shabibi and the goi........ i want to set the record straight because obviously i failed to get my points across - i was trying to portray......... first of all....i never flip flopped as keeponwalkinstupid and his cronies tried to say..... did then and still do believe there would and will be a rv...what i dont believe is that it will come out in the magnitude many gurus have claimed.... .what i believe and believed is that it would come out very small and crawl up.....at best a 1-1... this is what i believe and still believe......... what i tried to tell every one, was the shock that most or all of us felt at charges of corruption being placed on shabibi....thats what i had a hard time telling people....every thing we ever believed in per shabibi...was it false? or was it trumped up because some disagreed with what shabibi wanted to do with the iqd........ what i did the 1st day of the release of all the info to us thru the news...of the charges brought against shabibi....was make a ton of over seas calls to try and verify the validity of this news and to get there opinions of what was going on.... ... Read More Link On Right .what i told MY members....was what i could gather from these calls....people i have never talked to before but at my own expense and my time lost....i did it for MY members...and many other forums members who flocked to my site for the truth...what was going on..... i talked to bankers in 4 different countries, an 2 dinar brokers who deal with the middle east, and i talked to a couple of personal contacts that i have that have family and business in iraq and jordan as well..... i tried to say what they told me and tried to get it as accurate as i could......and then try to put it down on paper so to speak ...in chat...for MY members....to calm there fears....to try to help them...who also were totally taken aback by the news of shabibi.... this again is what i had a hard time trying to speak of...and the people i had talked to in these different countries and what they had told me about ..shabibi being pro RD.... and the ones in parliament and the gov who were opposed to this and wanted a RV instead and fought him on his project.... this we did see some of this in the news ...they would never give him the green light to do what ever it was he wanted to do...most all i talked to said he wanted to RD....some said that wasnt it and most had a hard time with shabibis plan because they totally held the belief when the 000 came off it meant there currency was back to normal and with the normal rate it held before the 000 were applied... maybe i didnt say it the way i should have...maybe i couldnt put my thoughts down on paper well enough to express what i meant.....maybe this post will bring on another long list of attacks....for what ever reason you do what you do...thats between you and God and your morality.... what i do...i do for MY members and i do for myself....as ive sought the truth this whole time in this speculative investment...i spend hours upon hours every single day... seeking knowledge and understandability in this investment.... and i pray always ive done the right thing and spoke the truth as i saw it, and was able to help the ones who cant or dont know how to do this research for themselves or just plain old dont want to do the work.. .i try to help them all, because when i first started i hungered for knowledge ...i didnt know how to achieve it...i didnt know where to start...i didnt have a mentor to show me the way in this....and every time i asked for help i was shot down or treated badly online for trying to ask questions.... when i got my site....i knew i could never be like that to the newbys or the older ones in this investment....and i think ive for the most part kept my reputation in check, never let the ego get in the way... and ive always tried to be honest about my opinions and what i tried to teach people on MY site............... i didnt take my posts to other sites....others took it there... .just because i didnt come and defend my self aginst these online lil wanna be keyboard karate heros...doesnt mean i changed the path im on....it just means as news changes we have to change with it or were left behind... .for me and MY members i will keep on doing what i do...offer them support help them in understanding how to read these articles...how to try to understand this whole mess we call an investment.... if you dont like me or what i say...why would you ever "belittle" yourselves and always go read my posts then and publish such hatred and evil slurs that will always show a side of you that you probably cant show in the real world as you would more than likely be having to eat your own teeth on a regular basis or be in jail on some domestic violence kind of charges... .why is it that you feel like you have more power online to do .. your demeaning deeds....why does it make you feel so empowered to act like a moron....what happened to your self respect and the conscience we were all given at birth that tells us whats right and wrong.. the feelings that come over you when you know you will hurt some one with the words that you say, but you will go on and say them because it makes you feel good to do so....and makes you feel like you have power... that you dont get in the real world....maybe this post will help you maybe it wont...but for me....ill just keep on doing what i do, and im sure you will too........TY, BondLady 43 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 BondLady addresses another sites comments........ To set the record straight - another site out there, i used to go and visit, many of their members are my members too, and many kept showing comments to me in "im's" made by several and comments they would also make in my defense, of my opinions... Hmmm...... Sounds like there are some double agents within our ranks. Let's keep it in the family folks. Put on your big boy or big girl pants and bash away in our own backyard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endeavor1 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Whoever they are, they have no common sense, they aren't acting like grown ups. I'm sure there's some kids out there in dinarland that need their mommy to tuck them in every night. Don't sweat it, leaders always get bashed by their rivals or their admirers, or just by plain , immature, bored potheads. Ignore the rest of the bashers whoever they are, hang in there BL, there are more of us than them. Go RV!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVPleaseToday Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'm not sure I understand why BL even addressed this. There is no prize for winning the Guru wars. Should an RV occur, the day after nobody will have the least interest in BL or anyone else who has been guessing for years about an RV. They will be sipping drinks with little umbrellas in them. If there is never any change to the currency, then BL and everyone else will simply keep guessing forever. And the beat goes on. I'm not bashing anyone, just saying that prognostication about the Dinar is not really a popularity contest. Unless you are shilling Dinar, and I don't think BL is, there is no payoff in the end for being right about when and how. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Francie26 Posted October 21, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 BondLady wasn't trying to be "right" in the way you mean it in her letter to those on DV who maligned her. She was trying to set the record straight. She has had other intances of being criticized for her work, significant work I might add. I have done research, and i know how difficult it can be, especially when one is trying to find the latest information in other countries. Perhaps you didn't see it, but when she found out that Shabibi was not the person she had believed him to be, she began a barrage of research to learn the truth about Shabibi, and then she wrote a letter to her followers on her own site, explaining her shock, plus how and why she had been in error, and also telling them the results of the significant amount of new research she had done to be sure of Shabibi's altered status. When someone brought that letter over here, Keep and one or two other lopsters jumped right on it, laughing that she had come to agree with them, that she was now a lopster, which she still was not. I can imagine some of her followers expressing concern about what she believed, just as we might if it appeared that Adam had suddenly changed his mind on important ideas that might impact our dinar. BondLady has always endured a great deal of criticism on this site from Keep and his buddies, and it is a huge source of frustration for her, primarily because it impacts her own followers. She is always having to clean up after the things Keep, et al, said about her here. That is why she eventually even stopped posting here. So this is not the first time she has been slammed by Keep and his ilk--there have been several other times when they commented rudely about her and caused her some problems with her own followers. BondLady offers information which she appears to research quite well, and if someone attacks the reputation of a person who is providing that service, even though at no cost, it diminishes their effectiveness, which is why she gets frustrated with Keep. It isn't now, nor has it ever been, just a desire to be proven right in (as you call it) a guru war. It is a matter of trust and effectiveness between herself and her own followers. That is a much more significant and serious concern to BondLady than merely being more or less right than Keep. I have always found BondLady to be a conscientious, reliable news researcher, but her honor and dedication did nothing to stop Keep from a constant barrage of criticism because she disagreed with his lopster views. And now, he has done it again. If she brings some of her research here, Keep is all over it. He just can't seem to leave her alone--either that, or he simply refuses to refrain from making snippy comments about her and anything she says. In fact, Keep and his friends treat her like she is just another of those guys like Oakie, et al, who are always screaming that the RV has occured and the rate is $15.00. But that is not who she is at all. She is a reliable news analyst who performs a real service. I hope this explains the difference between BondLady and the people out there who have given the word "guru" a bad name. 23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVPleaseToday Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Francie, I'm not arguing BL isn't a hard worker at her research. But why should she, or we, care what someone says about her? More to my point, though, is that this is all just conversation. What difference does her research make? The RV is going to either happen or it isn't. Most folks agree that Iraq would be stupid to telegraph any intent to RV. So what difference, other than entertainment, does her (or anyone else's) research or interpretations make to our investment? We are purely speculating about an RV Iraq never promised or suggested. The second Iraq officially RV's, you'll no longer be able to buy Dinar cheap, and none of us will know about it a second before it happens. So, while talking Dinar is interesting, in the end none of this talk means anything. BL is taking herself too seriously if she feels she has to defend herself against Keep. That's pretty funny, really. What is she defending? Her guess and Keep's guess are equally tenuous. Edited October 21, 2012 by RVPleaseToday 6 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor robbins Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 i want to set the record straight because obviously i failed to get my points across - i was trying to portray......... first of all....i never flip flopped as keeponwalkinstupid and his cronies tried to say..... did then and still do believe there would and will be a rv...what i dont believe is that it will come out in the magnitude many gurus have claimed.... .what i believe and believed is that it would come out very small and crawl up.....at best a 1-1... this is what i believe and still believe......... what i tried to tell every one, was the shock that most or all of us felt at charges of corruption being placed on shabibi....thats what i had a hard time telling people....every thing we ever believed in per shabibi...was it false? or was it trumped up because some disagreed with what shabibi wanted to do with the iqd........ Here is what keepmwlknfny actually said. So now that Shabibi is being removed, all of a sudden BL is saying he wanted to lop?? But BL, you said for so long that removing the zeros is the RV we wanted and Shabs was the master behind this plan...... Why the change of heart now? LOL It appears to me that she completely glossed over his point. He didn't say that she flip flopped on whether or not there would be an rv, but on what Shabibi's plan was. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robo5288 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Amusing at best; can anyone say "soap opera"? Sheeeeeeesh. Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah. Want to know if the exchange rate is changing? Check the Central Bank of Iraq official site. It will be right there for all to see. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realdinar Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Omg...corny. Can this thing just rv and be over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polishfloridian Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I like Bondlady and the way she "free floats" (pun intended) her thoughts....... I LOVE HER STYLE OF WRITING..... DUDES, LEAVE HER ALONE, PLEASE. She obviously 1) CARES about what she is doing 2) Researches before she types. 3) CARES about her reputation and testimony. 4) Is an honest person 5) Tries to make things "understandable" to the rest of us......... etc... etc... etc.. We here in the Dinar world thrive on "information" ... WE REALLY NEED A VENUE TO EXPRESS OURSELVES, ESPECIALLY IN A POSITIVE WAY (sorry to yell, call it passion) There is nothing wrong with her sifting through her thoughts for us. We all have A DREAM, A HOPE A DESIRE, A WISH for a better life for ourselves, our kids and our world in general. IMO we should be going after those people who make OUTRAGEOUS CLAIMS (date and rate), not someone expressing their "free speech" rights. BONDLADY Keep up the "fight of faith" thanks, Enjoying the ride with y'all Art 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodandStaff Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 CNN. Broadcasting From BondLady's WoodShed ! .i try to help them all, because when i first started i hungered for knowledge ...i didnt know how to achieve it...i didnt know where to start...i didnt have a mentor to show me the way in this....and every time i asked for help i was shot down or treated badly online for trying to ask questions.... when i got my site....i knew i could never be like that to the newbys or the older ones in this investment....and i think ive for the most part kept my reputation in check, never let the ego get in the way... and ive always tried to be honest about my opinions and what i tried to teach people on MY site............... i didnt take my posts to other sites....others took it there... .just because i didnt come and defend my self aginst these online lil wanna be keyboard karate heros...doesnt mean i changed the path im on....it just means as news changes we have to change with it or were left behind... IMO BondLady is just keeping up with the times and the knowledge as it presents itself. How could any of us known what was going on with Shab's until it came to light? I agree with her though... there are so many out there who are willing to throw stones whenever she opens her mouth... but you don't see them digging in and working for the information like she does. I don't have the time, nor do I feel like it is my mission in life to do what she does... but I sure do respect someone for giving it their best shot in spite of the ongoing criticism's thrown her way. Thanks BondLady... you rock!!!! Thanks Thug for bringing it over!!! Come On RV Baby!!! Again I share this very pertinent quote as it seems to fit so nicely in regards to this topic... "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." -Teddy Roosevelt 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepmwlknfny Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Here is what keepmwlknfny actually said. It appears to me that she completely glossed over his point. He didn't say that she flip flopped on whether or not there would be an rv, but on what Shabibi's plan was. Thank you..... I couldnt help but laugh at what she was saying because she and her "buddies" completely missed what I said and then added statements made by other people who used to listen to her, then she some way or another she lost credibility to them....that has nothing to do with me..... Just cause someone else doesnt like her or has things to say about her, in no way relates to me as if there is some sort of "we hate BL gang" running around here.... I never even said I hated her, and again I complimented her in the past for the work she does....we just had disagreements about one particular topic..... So again, BL, I ask, why did it take talking to "special contacts" for you to see or even acknowledge that Shabs plan has been to RD?? With your "extensive research" abilities, you were not able to come to that conclusion with all the information availible to you? God forbid you agree with a "lopster" right? Hahaha did the ego get in the way?? 10 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francie26 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Francie, I'm not arguing BL isn't a hard worker at her research. But why should she, or we, care what someone says about her? More to my point, though, is that this is all just conversation. What difference does her research make? The RV is going to either happen or it isn't. Most folks agree that Iraq would be stupid to telegraph any intent to RV. So what difference, other than entertainment, does her (or anyone else's) research or interpretations make to our investment? We are purely speculating about an RV Iraq never promised or suggested. The second Iraq officially RV's, you'll no longer be able to buy Dinar cheap, and none of us will know about it a second before it happens. So, while talking Dinar is interesting, in the end none of this talk means anything. BL is taking herself too seriously if she feels she has to defend herself against Keep. That's pretty funny, really. What is she defending? Her guess and Keep's guess are equally tenuous. That is your view. That is not BondLady's view, nor is it mine. Many people here take this more seriously than you appear to do. Bondlady is on a much more respected level than is Keep, so their words are not equal. She researches; Keep speculates. If you really want to get your question answered, I suggest you re-read my earlier post. Apparently you only skimmed it in order to frame your pathetic answer. I had believed you were serious before, so I spent quite a bit of time writing my response so you would have the answers I had believed you were serious about wanting. If you aren't willing to at least read it carefully for real understanding, I can only conclude that you simply want an argument, and from this moment on, you will not get it from me, other than to say, Grow up!! You need to realize that many other people don't share your flighty views of this investment. In fact, many people here are in desperate circumstances and, thus, take this investment extremely seriously. What experts, such as BondLady, say matters to us. What you have to say doesn't. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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