jonjon Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 My link “By the way, they talk about this great recession like it fell out of the sky–like, ‘Oh my goodness, where did it come from?’” Biden said. “It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card, at the same time, put a prescription drug plan on the credit card, a trillion dollar tax cut for the very wealthy.” “I was there, I voted against them,” Biden continued. “I said, no, we can’t afford that.” Then Sen. Biden voted for the Afghanistan resolution on Sept. 14, 2001 which authorized “the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.” And on Oct. 11, 2002, Biden voted for a resolution authorizing unilateral military action in Iraq, according to the Washington Post. Joe Biden is a lier Joe Biden Voting Record 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumNDumer Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Sorry to say Ski and Butifldrm... but I've never been so pissed at a "supposed professional" that demeaned and interrupted his opponent as much as Joe Biden did. Did you notice when things got hot he just responded by laughing??? ... like that is supposed to deflect from the facts! Unbelievable... still defending their "recovering economy" when it has only been below 8% one time in the whole time they have been in office... he should be ashamed of himself, instead he was just too smug imo. And I know he is older than his opponent but he gave him zero respect or credibility... that to me shows how arrogant he and his boss are. If Obama was "too polite" (another excuse for getting his arse kicked) I would say Biden was just the opposite... rude, arrogant, constantly interrupting, and dodging the facts. Did you notice that he didn't respond when Ryan mentioned that Joe's home town has 10% unemployment... they don't like confrontation.. .only deflection imo. Overall... I think Ryan, for his age and his experience held his own... and if that is the best the Dem's have they aren't looking too good!!! Rod and Staff, Did you notice that he didn't respond when Ryan mentioned that Joe's home town has 10% unemployment... they don't like confrontation.^^^ Biden nodded yes --if you batted the lashes you missed it lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerGeneration Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I cant believe what I am reading GI Joe Biden kicked arse! Joe had the real answers while ryan kept drinking god knows what every 2 minutes parched from the lack of real answers. Alot of disabled vets WILL lose there medical benifits including me. My copay has never been cheaper $1500 compared to homneys plan will jack it up to $3600 I have already gotten the paper work from the VA describing what could happen to my medical plan.Shet doesnt know a dam thing about foriegn policy just like ryan who had no real response to the problems in syria. So a vote for mitt is just like kicking all the disabled vets right in the teeth plus the other 20 million americans under 55 who WILL pay higher taxes plus the middle class who ryan clearly showed he doesnt care about. I would have laughed to at ryan who spewed alot of nothings to me. We all have to under stand 1 person cant fix this country alot of the programs and QUOTE studies are done by other people in our government who help make these decisions both parties vetoing each others programs.I am tired of DONKEY's and ELEPHANT's running this country but at least I can afford my medical services under the current program.Our VETS deserve the best and cheapest medical care and as bad as most of you dont want to see this Obama is giving us vets the best right now. Just ask anyone retired who they will vote for they dont want to pay higher copay rates As you can plainly see WE JUST DONT HAVE A REAL CHOICE I want to know where the 3rd option is "none of the above" We are forced to choose what the richest folks want us to vote for. If Obama wins our vets win.If romney wins our vets lose big and the rich still wont pay there fair share.What a decision for us to make! Plus mitts dad wont have to pay back that 3 billion still owed on the GM bailout. How nice is that?Biden clearly won hands down! I have to vote for Obama because I need my medical services If I vote for mitt I might as well get my plot at arlington dug because I wont be able to afford my medical services anymore. As a comissioned officer I only get 632.00 a month the same as all disabled vets so ask yourself this could they afford to pay more than double on there copay? HELL NO is the answer to that! So for our time fighting for the freedom of this country we get MITTED to death! So many young people on this board just dont understand Obama was handed a turd sandwich by the bush administration with a deficit of over 15 trillion dollars I guess the Obama haters could do a better job (NOT) Disabled boots on the ground here dont have a choice but Obama. Convince me please on how shet homney is going to offer this affordable insurance to all the disabled vets in AMERICA? He's going to TAX the hell out of us trying to knock down that republican deficit we see today. So far the republicans dont have a answer as we saw on the medical issues at hand! I dont appreciate the comment about welfare (get up off your arses and work) Well do you have a job for a one armed soldier with massive scarring OR hire me and shut up.I only caught a mortar is all no biggie in the line of duty for our FREEDOM! As you know insurance companies and attorney's run this world we live in and I am considered high risk to work any job they might have to PAY OUT instead of just collecting from a much healthier younger person! SO THINK before you write something about welfare plus its something I dont even collect I'm to educated they told me.Its not Obama's fault either our welfare system has been the same for 30 plus years I KNOW. Tell me how mitt is going to help us vets? I am all EARS Ryan could'nt even make his own numbers work what a laugh! The smartest people should be running this country instead of the richest.PERIOD......... I am a proud libertarian which means if you want the job done right we the PEOPLE have to do it ourselves.Braying like a jackass or screeching like a elephant doesnt get the job done. 4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman2010 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 WOW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerGeneration Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 WOW IS RIGHT ! when the truth hits you in the face! It will be like the new sandwich from subway called the MITTPITT it has burnt to a crisp bread with a cheesy limburger sauce with plenty of vegetables just no meat! A smooth talking re rehearsed commercial of 2 unbelieveable wisks of hot air as soon as you open the wrapper! Only 53% of the sandwich is eatable and the other 47% is to be throw away the cost of it will be FREE for the rich and $5.00 plus a middle income tax of 30%. Comes with a bag of funyans and a diet POKE! Dont ask to have it cut in half that would require a chainsaw plus it WILL be hard to digest. This is why ryan had to take a drink of what ever he was drinking every 2 minutes to help digest the hardest sandwich ever made! And when you choke on it be worried because his health care program doesnt exsist! Might make a good CLUB sandwich for our new military that he doesnt know how to run yet. The projected cost of this sandwich cant be calculated in the long term because Mitts numbers are new math called BSeconomics. wonder how many they will sell? Instead of there logo being (eat fresh) it will be (Shet Fresh) The plastic bag they put it in should be used if you vote for mitt and put over your head and held tightly around your neck Oh and if you want 1 napkin,salt,pepper,That WILL COST YOU EXTRA later down the road when the cool thought of him winning and the Burning cost of heartburn sets in.Then I can just see the jokes of mitt hitt us in the wallet.What a funny sandwich! When our beloved RV hits just think ahead what would mitt do? He will jack up the capital gains tax to help cover the republican deficit of 15 trillion plus Thats a sandwich I will NEVER order! Then the rich will still hire the chinese to make thier cheap arse products to sell to us for high dollar,pay no tax on them thanks to NAFTA and the whole USA ripoff begins again.A bowl of rice for high profits! If you tax the rich they will never open factories here in the USA and hire us common folk when they can hire the chinese for cheap and pay nothing extra in tax. Your dammed if you do and dammed if you dont. Still chewing for more?I can go all day and night long! Obama supports us disabled vets and our medical cost is cheap! Mitt wants to trash this cheap medical program for our vets and impose higher taxes to us worthless 47% how could anyone vote for this? Medical care is a BIG factor for anyone who like me will be retired soon and if mitt thinks his higher priced way is going to win seniors over think again! Higher taxes means higher copays! part A part B will be more than doubled.You will see the MITTPITT and wished you would have rethought your line of eating.I have no choice but to vote for Obama I need my medical care. Mitt wants to spend more on military technology. why we already have the fastest everything the most powerful everything and the F-22 raptor.This is typical republican thinking because they get more kickbacks from these most expensive projects cutting high end officers who we need to command our troups in the field.Bush did the same thing and what happened you say 15 trillion dollar deficit is what happened and how much of that went to our FATCAT politicians pockets? huge kickbacks that no one can prove that is still alive. For you younger folks you will be in my shoes one day and will wish that you had cheaper medical programs when YOU get disabled or to sick to work.A new president sounds good now but at what cost to your kids? My windbag is empty now! ENJOY your MITTPITT sandwich its gonna be hard to chew and twice as tough to swallow! 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrDinarE Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 As much as I dislike politics right now, you who have to be seriously delirious to think Paul Ryan won that debate. As unprofessional as Biden was, it doesn't change the obvious fact that the young pup Ryan got schooled by the old dog on the porch, Biden. It is what it is....just like Obama got wiped last week...be real with yourself. As much as I dislike politics right now, you who have to be seriously delirious to think Paul Ryan won that debate. As unprofessional as Biden was, it doesn't change the obvious fact that the young pup Ryan got schooled by the old dog on the porch, Biden. It is what it is....just like Obama got wiped last week...be real with yourself. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Biden was the angry old man. He was the Childish Old Man!! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man_Kind Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 He was the Childish Old Man!! I agree ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage449 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I think Biden was in an attack mode because of the failure of O to do so in his first engagement with Romney and Biden was going to make up for that. He came across arrogant, superficial and the constant interruptions was like something out of grade school. F for Biden. No way in H_ll could I vote today for OB team. One of the radio hosts called it a debate between Bob Uecker and Eddie Munster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Unbelievable... still defending their "recovering economy" when it has only been below 8% one time in the whole time they have been in office... he should be ashamed of himself, instead he was just too smug imo. And I know he is older than his opponent but he gave him zero respect or credibility... that to me shows how arrogant he and his boss are. If Obama was "too polite" (another excuse for getting his arse kicked) I would say Biden was just the opposite... rude, arrogant, constantly interrupting, and dodging the facts. Did you notice that he didn't respond when Ryan mentioned that Joe's home town has 10% unemployment... they don't like confrontation.. .only deflection imo. [/size][/b] Ryan missed a great opportunity to challenge the 8% . Considering they didn't include California ,only the largest unemployment in the country. Damn liars. Otherwise I thought he held his own with the arrogant and rude Biden. Edited October 12, 2012 by slb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodandStaff Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Rod and Staff, Did you notice that he didn't respond when Ryan mentioned that Joe's home town has 10% unemployment... they don't like confrontation.^^^ Biden nodded yes --if you batted the lashes you missed it lol That may be so, but it was one of the few moments in the debate that Biden was "speechless" (meaning he didn't interupt). The news said this morning that Joe interupted Ryan over 80 times last night... Joe must really like to hear himself talk!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sandstorm Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I cant believe what I am reading GI Joe Biden kicked arse! Joe had the real answers while ryan kept drinking god knows what every 2 minutes parched from the lack of real answers. Alot of disabled vets WILL lose there medical benifits including me. My copay has never been cheaper $1500 compared to homneys plan will jack it up to $3600 I have already gotten the paper work from the VA describing what could happen to my medical plan.Shet doesnt know a dam thing about foriegn policy just like ryan who had no real response to the problems in syria. So a vote for mitt is just like kicking all the disabled vets right in the teeth plus the other 20 million americans under 55 who WILL pay higher taxes plus the middle class who ryan clearly showed he doesnt care about. I would have laughed to at ryan who spewed alot of nothings to me. We all have to under stand 1 person cant fix this country alot of the programs and QUOTE studies are done by other people in our government who help make these decisions both parties vetoing each others programs.I am tired of DONKEY's and ELEPHANT's running this country but at least I can afford my medical services under the current program.Our VETS deserve the best and cheapest medical care and as bad as most of you dont want to see this Obama is giving us vets the best right now. Just ask anyone retired who they will vote for they dont want to pay higher copay rates As you can plainly see WE JUST DONT HAVE A REAL CHOICE I want to know where the 3rd option is "none of the above" We are forced to choose what the richest folks want us to vote for. If Obama wins our vets win.If romney wins our vets lose big and the rich still wont pay there fair share.What a decision for us to make! Plus mitts dad wont have to pay back that 3 billion still owed on the GM bailout. How nice is that?Biden clearly won hands down! I have to vote for Obama because I need my medical services If I vote for mitt I might as well get my plot at arlington dug because I wont be able to afford my medical services anymore. As a comissioned officer I only get 632.00 a month the same as all disabled vets so ask yourself this could they afford to pay more than double on there copay? HELL NO is the answer to that! So for our time fighting for the freedom of this country we get MITTED to death! So many young people on this board just dont understand Obama was handed a turd sandwich by the bush administration with a deficit of over 15 trillion dollars I guess the Obama haters could do a better job (NOT) Disabled boots on the ground here dont have a choice but Obama. Convince me please on how shet homney is going to offer this affordable insurance to all the disabled vets in AMERICA? He's going to TAX the hell out of us trying to knock down that republican deficit we see today. So far the republicans dont have a answer as we saw on the medical issues at hand! I dont appreciate the comment about welfare (get up off your arses and work) Well do you have a job for a one armed soldier with massive scarring OR hire me and shut up.I only caught a mortar is all no biggie in the line of duty for our FREEDOM! As you know insurance companies and attorney's run this world we live in and I am considered high risk to work any job they might have to PAY OUT instead of just collecting from a much healthier younger person! SO THINK before you write something about welfare plus its something I dont even collect I'm to educated they told me.Its not Obama's fault either our welfare system has been the same for 30 plus years I KNOW. Tell me how mitt is going to help us vets? I am all EARS Ryan could'nt even make his own numbers work what a laugh! The smartest people should be running this country instead of the richest.PERIOD......... I am a proud libertarian which means if you want the job done right we the PEOPLE have to do it ourselves.Braying like a jackass or screeching like a elephant doesnt get the job done. rich people dont pay their fair share?? Are you that dumb. romney paid 40% on his income......then paid 14% on that same money that yielded profit. he has been taxed two or three times. the government.....gets a tax. everytime we walk out of our homes. gas tax...alcohol tax. cig...tax...property tax....income tax...state tax....local tax.....bmv tax....sales tax.....and on and on. our government waste and spends way to much. obamacare is the biggest tax on the american people in history. how much of someones money do you think the government should take?? All the rich should never invest...theyshould liquify their assets and leave the u.s. their is no reason for anyone to open up shop in the united states. all the money should leave this country....then we will see how your socialism works 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 ryan didnt hit on his best asset .. and explain it .. ITS NOT A REVENUE PROBLEM ... ITS A SPENDING PROBLEM RYAN WOULD OF WON HANDS DOWN USING THIS .... DUMBIDEM WOULD OF THREW UP ANSWERING TO THAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontlop Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) I cant believe what I am reading GI Joe Biden kicked arse! Joe had the real answers while ryan kept drinking god knows what every 2 minutes parched from the lack of real answers. Alot of disabled vets WILL lose there medical benifits including me. My copay has never been cheaper $1500 compared to homneys plan will jack it up to $3600 I have already gotten the paper work from the VA describing what could happen to my medical plan.Shet doesnt know a dam thing about foriegn policy just like ryan who had no real response to the problems in syria. So a vote for mitt is just like kicking all the disabled vets right in the teeth plus the other 20 million americans under 55 who WILL pay higher taxes plus the middle class who ryan clearly showed he doesnt care about. I would have laughed to at ryan who spewed alot of nothings to me. We all have to under stand 1 person cant fix this country alot of the programs and QUOTE studies are done by other people in our government who help make these decisions both parties vetoing each others programs.I am tired of DONKEY's and ELEPHANT's running this country but at least I can afford my medical services under the current program.Our VETS deserve the best and cheapest medical care and as bad as most of you dont want to see this Obama is giving us vets the best right now. Just ask anyone retired who they will vote for they dont want to pay higher copay rates As you can plainly see WE JUST DONT HAVE A REAL CHOICE I want to know where the 3rd option is "none of the above" We are forced to choose what the richest folks want us to vote for. If Obama wins our vets win.If romney wins our vets lose big and the rich still wont pay there fair share.What a decision for us to make! Plus mitts dad wont have to pay back that 3 billion still owed on the GM bailout. How nice is that?Biden clearly won hands down! I have to vote for Obama because I need my medical services If I vote for mitt I might as well get my plot at arlington dug because I wont be able to afford my medical services anymore. As a comissioned officer I only get 632.00 a month the same as all disabled vets so ask yourself this could they afford to pay more than double on there copay? HELL NO is the answer to that! So for our time fighting for the freedom of this country we get MITTED to death! So many young people on this board just dont understand Obama was handed a turd sandwich by the bush administration with a deficit of over 15 trillion dollars I guess the Obama haters could do a better job (NOT) Disabled boots on the ground here dont have a choice but Obama. Convince me please on how shet homney is going to offer this affordable insurance to all the disabled vets in AMERICA? He's going to TAX the hell out of us trying to knock down that republican deficit we see today. So far the republicans dont have a answer as we saw on the medical issues at hand! I dont appreciate the comment about welfare (get up off your arses and work) Well do you have a job for a one armed soldier with massive scarring OR hire me and shut up.I only caught a mortar is all no biggie in the line of duty for our FREEDOM! As you know insurance companies and attorney's run this world we live in and I am considered high risk to work any job they might have to PAY OUT instead of just collecting from a much healthier younger person! SO THINK before you write something about welfare plus its something I dont even collect I'm to educated they told me.Its not Obama's fault either our welfare system has been the same for 30 plus years I KNOW. Tell me how mitt is going to help us vets? I am all EARS Ryan could'nt even make his own numbers work what a laugh! The smartest people should be running this country instead of the richest.PERIOD......... I am a proud libertarian which means if you want the job done right we the PEOPLE have to do it ourselves.Braying like a jackass or screeching like a elephant doesnt get the job done. YOU CANNOT RAISE THE TAXES ON THE RICH WITHOUT THEM TRANSFERRING THOSE INCREASES RIGHT BACK TO THE WORKING CLASS .. the rich doesnt have a job.. rich people dont work ..they own businesses .. they just jack up all cost to the consumer.. they dont take the money out of their bank account ..stick with ryan and romney .. they wont raise taxes on any one .. business run on standardized 8% profit margin business platforms .. they will just make 8% on more money after they raise up their prices on their merchandise .. if taxes go up 10% .. so does a loaf of bread go up 10% and the richs net income is up 10% so they get 10% more money .. the rich arent paying taxes .. they manage businesses to make profits ..they will always make 8% profit on a 8% business platform or they will shut the business down .. .. if they raise taxes on the rich 500 billion dollars .. guess where they are going to get that 500 billion ..from the consumers Edited October 12, 2012 by dontlop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I cant believe what I am reading GI Joe Biden kicked arse! Joe had the real answers while ryan kept drinking god knows what every 2 minutes parched from the lack of real answers. Alot of disabled vets WILL lose there medical benifits including me. My copay has never been cheaper $1500 compared to homneys plan will jack it up to $3600 I have already gotten the paper work from the VA describing what could happen to my medical plan.Shet doesnt know a dam thing about foriegn policy just like ryan who had no real response to the problems in syria. So a vote for mitt is just like kicking all the disabled vets right in the teeth plus the other 20 million americans under 55 who WILL pay higher taxes plus the middle class who ryan clearly showed he doesnt care about. I would have laughed to at ryan who spewed alot of nothings to me. We all have to under stand 1 person cant fix this country alot of the programs and QUOTE studies are done by other people in our government who help make these decisions both parties vetoing each others programs.I am tired of DONKEY's and ELEPHANT's running this country but at least I can afford my medical services under the current program.Our VETS deserve the best and cheapest medical care and as bad as most of you dont want to see this Obama is giving us vets the best right now. Just ask anyone retired who they will vote for they dont want to pay higher copay rates As you can plainly see WE JUST DONT HAVE A REAL CHOICE I want to know where the 3rd option is "none of the above" We are forced to choose what the richest folks want us to vote for. If Obama wins our vets win.If romney wins our vets lose big and the rich still wont pay there fair share.What a decision for us to make! Plus mitts dad wont have to pay back that 3 billion still owed on the GM bailout. How nice is that?Biden clearly won hands down! I have to vote for Obama because I need my medical services If I vote for mitt I might as well get my plot at arlington dug because I wont be able to afford my medical services anymore. As a comissioned officer I only get 632.00 a month the same as all disabled vets so ask yourself this could they afford to pay more than double on there copay? HELL NO is the answer to that! So for our time fighting for the freedom of this country we get MITTED to death! So many young people on this board just dont understand Obama was handed a turd sandwich by the bush administration with a deficit of over 15 trillion dollars I guess the Obama haters could do a better job (NOT) Disabled boots on the ground here dont have a choice but Obama. Convince me please on how shet homney is going to offer this affordable insurance to all the disabled vets in AMERICA? He's going to TAX the hell out of us trying to knock down that republican deficit we see today. So far the republicans dont have a answer as we saw on the medical issues at hand! I dont appreciate the comment about welfare (get up off your arses and work) Well do you have a job for a one armed soldier with massive scarring OR hire me and shut up.I only caught a mortar is all no biggie in the line of duty for our FREEDOM! As you know insurance companies and attorney's run this world we live in and I am considered high risk to work any job they might have to PAY OUT instead of just collecting from a much healthier younger person! SO THINK before you write something about welfare plus its something I dont even collect I'm to educated they told me.Its not Obama's fault either our welfare system has been the same for 30 plus years I KNOW. Tell me how mitt is going to help us vets? I am all EARS Ryan could'nt even make his own numbers work what a laugh! The smartest people should be running this country instead of the richest.PERIOD......... I am a proud libertarian which means if you want the job done right we the PEOPLE have to do it ourselves.Braying like a jackass or screeching like a elephant doesnt get the job done. Respect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) rich people dont pay their fair share?? Are you that dumb. romney paid 40% on his income......then paid 14% on that same money that yielded profit. he has been taxed two or three times. the government.....gets a tax. everytime we walk out of our homes. gas tax...alcohol tax. cig...tax...property tax....income tax...state tax....local tax.....bmv tax....sales tax.....and on and on. our government waste and spends way to much. obamacare is the biggest tax on the american people in history. how much of someones money do you think the government should take?? All the rich should never invest...theyshould liquify their assets and leave the u.s. their is no reason for anyone to open up shop in the united states. all the money should leave this country....then we will see how your socialism works I wonder when people will finaly stand up a say enough is enough. You are right the gov has become very imaginetive on new ways to tax its citizens. Here's one of my fav's, tourism tax,are you kidding me.There are some cities that now tax citizens that dont live but work within its jurisdiction a street tax because they drive to work from outside the city,priceless. The rich are in the minority but pay the majority of all taxes. The problem ain't taxes folks and the gov loves to steer us away from the real problem..................gov spending/waste. Here's a simple idea how about we cut gov spending/jobs/benefits by say min 15%, nah never happen. Edited October 12, 2012 by caz1104 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerGeneration Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 rich people dont pay their fair share?? Are you that dumb. romney paid 40% on his income......then paid 14% on that same money that yielded profit. he has been taxed two or three times. the government.....gets a tax. everytime we walk out of our homes. gas tax...alcohol tax. cig...tax...property tax....income tax...state tax....local tax.....bmv tax....sales tax.....and on and on. our government waste and spends way to much. obamacare is the biggest tax on the american people in history. how much of someones money do you think the government should take?? All the rich should never invest...theyshould liquify their assets and leave the u.s. their is no reason for anyone to open up shop in the united states. all the money should leave this country....then we will see how your socialism works Ever heard of TAX SHELTERS. The rich has NEVER paid there fair share in taxes!They just merge with other corporations to show a loss and dont have to pay taxes DUH! its just like you say they will always pass the buck onto us DUMB PEOPLE.Those taxes you talk about have been there for years.And who controls our government spending? DUMB PEOPLE. I do remember a long time ago a straight forward tax of 10% for ALL to pay but was shot down by the rich! Well guess what all our money is leaving the country china owns it.DUH!!!! I would give the rich a tax break when they can show me that they at least hired all americans gave them health benefits IN an AMERICAN based company and could provide a day care center for their children.I would give them a break.All others pay tax like the rest of us! I would remove nafta in a heartbeat that alone would create jobs here in America!! For every car that came into this country one of ours would have to go out. Fair is fair! All other products included! You ever try to grow crops here in the USA well guess what for you to do that you have to get a government contract to grow anything for sale on the open market,Why you ask so OUR government can control the prices of that crop if everyone grew the same crop it would be cheap to buy and we cant have that can we? I guess we the people control the stock market as well the rich can get a inside tip where its against the law for everyone else! I can create so many jobs its not funny but I am just a dumbazz as you say! I would fire every person in our government,congress,senate,how many jobs is that? And they would'nt be getting a pink slip either,They got there lobby money that we the people dont get to see! massive salaries with smaller taxes for the rich ones.Guess you dont remember the tea party only the rich were invited! I would slam the gates to the Mexican boarder closed making their government control its own and until then no one in no one out! Get rid of all people who are here illegally how many more jobs is that.Shoot my plan is better than mitts OH thats right he doesnt have a plan! Town hall is going to show you what he is truly made of! And as for socialism we have been living it for the last 3 presidents that we voted for. Neither of these bums deserve our vote but for now my health care is at stake all disabled vets and seniors are worried and you shall see who they vote for.I know someone has to lose so I guess its us american vets that have to pay that price again thanks for calling US DUMB! You'd fight to if your medical was going to just disappear.Insurance companies and attorneys run this socialistic country as you say you cant get a good job without a credit check,drug test, let them know where all your family lives with phone numbers and next of kin,Then you have to disclose all medical problems to them and let them know where you worked for the last 5 years with referances,The rich control everything but when I apply for that job do they give me their information plus contacts Welcome to America!!.Dont ever call me dumb again! I paid for my education at UCLA right out of my own pocket and have 2 degrees to show for it! I wasnt offered a gov grant and didnt ask for one.The rich created socilaism when I could'nt even get a job because of my disability so fat cat insurance companies would'nt have to pay out.You should'nt have to pay for a attorney to get whats rightfully yours social security.Must make you proud to call a disabled vet dumb! Drops his nutsac on the floor and hobbles off! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racbluto Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Paul Ryan is the far superior to Joe Biden. Mr. Ryan is smart as hell. He gets my vote. What do you guys think? I agree and he did it with dignity and respect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitealwedrop Posted October 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Rod and Littlefeet brought up a good point in that Biden deflected. You guys are right. That's exactly what VP Biden did. He was ill prepared, under pressure and tried to use humor to laugh off the debate. Joe Biden failed miserably. The current state of our economy is no laughing matter for many of us. Joe Biden is arrogant, uninformed and needs to retire from politics, as many in DC should. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markinsa Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 folks, can you imigine Mr. Pres in wating, JB, should he become President, negotiating with foreign officials concerning anything, smiling, smirking, laughing and just pissin off the enemy--just how effective could he be, where could he send this country--just deeper and deeper--I too was pissed, excuse my language, but I'm more pissed now than I was before. And now you know why we aren't in Iraq anymore. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand pubah Posted October 13, 2012 Report Share Posted October 13, 2012 I cant believe what I am reading GI Joe Biden kicked arse! Joe had the real answers while ryan kept drinking god knows what every 2 minutes parched from the lack of real answers. Alot of disabled vets WILL lose there medical benifits including me. My copay has never been cheaper $1500 compared to homneys plan will jack it up to $3600 I have already gotten the paper work from the VA describing what could happen to my medical plan.Shet doesnt know a dam thing about foriegn policy just like ryan who had no real response to the problems in syria. So a vote for mitt is just like kicking all the disabled vets right in the teeth plus the other 20 million americans under 55 who WILL pay higher taxes plus the middle class who ryan clearly showed he doesnt care about. I would have laughed to at ryan who spewed alot of nothings to me. We all have to under stand 1 person cant fix this country alot of the programs and QUOTE studies are done by other people in our government who help make these decisions both parties vetoing each others programs.I am tired of DONKEY's and ELEPHANT's running this country but at least I can afford my medical services under the current program.Our VETS deserve the best and cheapest medical care and as bad as most of you dont want to see this Obama is giving us vets the best right now. Just ask anyone retired who they will vote for they dont want to pay higher copay rates As you can plainly see WE JUST DONT HAVE A REAL CHOICE I want to know where the 3rd option is "none of the above" We are forced to choose what the richest folks want us to vote for. If Obama wins our vets win.If romney wins our vets lose big and the rich still wont pay there fair share.What a decision for us to make! Plus mitts dad wont have to pay back that 3 billion still owed on the GM bailout. How nice is that?Biden clearly won hands down! I have to vote for Obama because I need my medical services If I vote for mitt I might as well get my plot at arlington dug because I wont be able to afford my medical services anymore. As a comissioned officer I only get 632.00 a month the same as all disabled vets so ask yourself this could they afford to pay more than double on there copay? HELL NO is the answer to that! So for our time fighting for the freedom of this country we get MITTED to death! So many young people on this board just dont understand Obama was handed a turd sandwich by the bush administration with a deficit of over 15 trillion dollars I guess the Obama haters could do a better job (NOT) Disabled boots on the ground here dont have a choice but Obama. Convince me please on how shet homney is going to offer this affordable insurance to all the disabled vets in AMERICA? He's going to TAX the hell out of us trying to knock down that republican deficit we see today. So far the republicans dont have a answer as we saw on the medical issues at hand! I dont appreciate the comment about welfare (get up off your arses and work) Well do you have a job for a one armed soldier with massive scarring OR hire me and shut up.I only caught a mortar is all no biggie in the line of duty for our FREEDOM! As you know insurance companies and attorney's run this world we live in and I am considered high risk to work any job they might have to PAY OUT instead of just collecting from a much healthier younger person! SO THINK before you write something about welfare plus its something I dont even collect I'm to educated they told me.Its not Obama's fault either our welfare system has been the same for 30 plus years I KNOW. Tell me how mitt is going to help us vets? I am all EARS Ryan could'nt even make his own numbers work what a laugh! The smartest people should be running this country instead of the richest.PERIOD......... I am a proud libertarian which means if you want the job done right we the PEOPLE have to do it ourselves.Braying like a jackass or screeching like a elephant doesnt get the job done. I feel your pain dude but your facts are incorrect. Pres. Obama illegally removed the work requirements for welfare that were enacted by a Republican controlled congress under the Clinton Administration. I believe that entitlements for the disabled are important but I will be darned if I want my tax dollars paying lazy good-for-nothings to stay home and not even look for a job. I see them every day... GP 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodandStaff Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Socialism is not what we want!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodandStaff Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 "As the adage goes, 'fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me'... It's time for patriots everywhere to rally together again and take back America." -Chuck Norris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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