Popular Post RVWITHME Posted October 7, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) An RV Theory - Dec 31st, 2012 This is a synopsis by KingDinar My hopes is this will be a history lesson as well as a detailed theory of the Iraq RV that does nothing more than make you think, maybe bring you to a calm state in your investment. Iraq plans to remove 3 zero’s. This is not a new plan. Actually, this was a designed plan that began back in 2004. In 2004, Iraq came out with the 25 Dinar and 100 Dinar coins. Stop and think for a minute. This was a time when the Dinar was well into 3500 Dinars to 1 US Dollar. Why in the world would a country bring out a coin so low in value during this particular time? Reason is, they were planning to drop the 3 zeros way back in 2004. When it didn’t happened as planned, and they had the coins distributed throughout the country, people were so angry that they were throwing them in the streets. I have been collecting articles since 2005, and last year my computer crashed and lost it all. I spent the last two weeks digging up as many articles I could before presenting this. Some, the important ones, I will have links to, others I have copied from other sites in their archives. While collecting these articles, I created a timeline for the last 7 years which displays each article, and who was quoted in the article. Then as the time went, and if it was later found to be true, they got a green check ✓, if untrue they got a red X . The reason I did this was so I could tell over time, who was the ones to listen to and who not to. Surprising, Saleh and Shabibi, both from CBI, were the only two over 7 years that spoke truths. Also, please understand when we translate the articles, using whatever source (Google, etc) it never comes out correctly, which is why you see things as watermelon and others pop up. Also the past, present, and future tense gets scrambled in the translations. My two friends, one in Jordan and the other in Turkey assists me in translating many of these articles rather than using the translators so common mistakes are not made. Back to the theory. Iraq has tried to RV their currency every year from 2005 to 2008 without success as you already know. What started out to be a fix for the US situation, turned out to actually be a global fix as has been stated. Why they did not try to RV their currency from 18 January, 2009 - 16 January 2012, was due to an agreement Iraq had with the IMF to show they could keep inflation down for 3 years without changing their currency rate. Funny thing is, not one person caught this during these 3 years. During this time, the Iraq Dinar was bought like crazy as many stated it was going to RV so many times during this 3 year period. My thought was this was intentional, not by our gurus, but by our government. Our government wanted US citizens to buy the Dinars like they were going out of style. Why? Well, one reason, tax dollars on RV time. Secondly, I believe the US wanted a certain amount obtained by us which it turn would be the global currency needed along side of gold for when the global reset occurs. Thirdly, this was needed to assist Iraq in raising their cash on hand. As I am sure many other countries have also done. Now I mentioned global reset for a reason and will back it with articles to prove this. Iraq Dinar will be the global currency that will sit with gold in each country to back each countries currencies. The reason Iraq was picked (by the world) to be the world financial fix was they are the only country in the world that has a currency that can be backed by cash in hand. Iraq already is a gold backed country (black gold and real gold). Also a snippet taken from this article LINK : http://caribbeanbusinesspr.com/news0...=68200&ct_id=1 “As Iraq — with one of the world’s largest untapped oil deposits—continues to increase its oil production output for export, the discovery of large quantities of gold changes the economic landscape for the Middle Eastern country.” Another article stated Iraq is pulling more ounces of gold from the ground per day than they are barrels of oil per day. Now we saw it mentioned probably 6 to 10 times each year from 2005 to 2011 talking about (lifting, removing, deleting, or lower denoms) currency adjustments. During 2006 through 2009 so many referred to this as a LOP when in truth it was the opposite. Some stated it was removing 3 zeros from $0.00085, others thought it was removing the Dinars with 3 zeros on it. The whole time it was referring to bringing in a new set of currencies to go with the currency they already have. It wasn’t until 2012, that we really started seeing many articles referencing deleting the zeros. And in 2012, we know parliament finally agreed and supported this to happen. If any saw the London website where it had the picture of the 25,000 Iraq dinar and the caption above stating Maliki approved and the statement below that said CBI was planning to drop the zeros. Why do you think Iraq felt they needed to add this on this website. So the heavy investors could see, Iraq is ready. Iraq, is a safe and wealthy place to invest. Also remember that every country Central Bank directors were at this meeting in addition to WB, IMF, WTO, and the UN. This little picture of the 25000 Dinar was a huge statement to all of these folks. Iraq has all along had the plan to add new bills to the currency they already have. You have to remember, Iraq has only one country to mimic a democratic country by, and that’s USA. So they are doing exactly what we have already done. We had the $10,000, $5,000 and $1,000 bills and slowly removed them from circulation. They still exist, just used between banks. Now we have the $100 and lower bills. Iraq is printing (some say its printed already but I can show they are wrong) new bills with lower numbers or values just as we did. Then when they come out, they will draw in the larger notes which will be the global currency used just by Central Banks. They never intended to replace the currency we have. Now to quickly show they have not completed printing the new currency, I have an article LINK http://translate.google.com/translat...100192&act=url that is Shabibi telling the people and Parliament in a press release that the new currency will not be ready in time (1 January 2013) and not to worry as Shabibi says we have plenty of coinage in the vaults from 2004 and 2005 to use until the new currency is ready. Here is how it is stated below: Quote: “Noted that the central bank has reserves currency so that they can in the process of deletion of zeros and coverage significantly.” Also in this article, the deputy governor of CBI Mohammed Saleh states that the delete the 3 zeros (RV) needs to be at the beginning of the fiscal year (1 January). As this snippet taken from an article on 23 July 2012. CBI: Zero’s must drop at beginning of year; Would cause accounting problems July 23rd, 2012 The deputy governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh (Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network) that “the project to delete the three zeroes from the Iraqi currency needs a new financial period, because all accounts start the new currency may be registered books accounting currency different from the work recorded the beginning of the year “. Now, since we have not RV’d at this time. And everything I want to get in here I can’t as to its size, let me hit the point that it is easy to know when it will be. LINK http://translate.google.com/translat...iew_33268.html In this article we have it too plainly stated, as well as this 2010 article snippet below: Central Bank: raise three zeroes from the Iraqi currency will not be two years ago (correctly translated is “for 2 more years”) 26.05.2010 Hassan Rashed Widened in recent calls to the Central Bank of Iraq need to direct project raise three zeroes from the local currency, in the background of the increased security risks faced by the transfer of banknotes between banks and their branches in Baghdad and the provinces, as well and leading the other caused by the wide circulation of large amounts of Iraqi currency, which suffered from chronic inflation back to almost three decades. Despite the approval by the Iraqi Finance to draft up zeroes, but the central bank adviser, Dr. appearance of Mohammed Saleh says the issue is not as urgent cases and it is linked to achieving full economic stability in Iraq. He explained the appearance of Mohammed Saleh in a statement to Radio Free Iraq that the process of initiating a zeros will not be two years ago. (remember past, present, future is distorted when using translators) My interpretation is: Basically saying that the process of dropping the 3 zeros will not be for 2 more years. So basically we are at the end of our journey. We have maybe less than 90 days to go to never wait for this anymore. Be done, fineto, over with. Hang in there. Your really going to enjoy the rate. No where near what most predict. Definitely higher. Clue: the longer they waited, the more of a fix that is needed, the more valuable your dinars have become. Bless to all. 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steveflex7 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Sounds good to me. Very knowledgable and logical backed by articles and facts. I'm sure keep will be here shortly to refute all of this 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixirbaby Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 90days sounds good to me. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalDinar Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thanks RVWITHME History is always written differently, Depends who writes it!! Facts are sometimes opinions. Everyone has their spin. This is why you will always have someone that will challenge History. This sounds good to me too Steveflex7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Quote History is always written differently, Depends who writes it!! End Quote So true. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVWITHME Posted October 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 You know, the more I really think this whole RV situation through, the more convinced I become that we "MAY" be looking out to the 4th week of January. Here's why; If the Bushes are as deeply connected to the TPTB and the release of the Dinar as we have been led to believe, there is NO WAY they're going to be letting this RV loose on Obama's watch. Therefore a bit of history may be repeating itself. Let's look back to the similarly failed presidency of Jimmy Carter, the Iranian Hostage Crisis and what happened when Ronald Reagan was elected. Basically, the very same hour that Mr. Reagan was inaugurated, Iran let the hostages free. Now, if you were in control of the release of the RV and leaned to the right politically, wouldn't that be perfect timing? Also, the stars seem to be lining up on this in other ways, here's an excerpt from another article in The Oval: "Jan. 20 -- presidential Inauguration Day -- is a Sunday, so all the pomp and ceremony will be pushed back a day.As is tradition, the winner of the November election will be sworn in privately at noon on Jan. 20, but the actual ceremony will be on Jan. 21. The office of Sen. Charles Schumer, elected to serve as chairman of the 2013 Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies, noted "this is the seventh time in U.S. history that the constitutionally mandated inauguration date has fallen on a Sunday." "The last time was for President Ronald Reagan's second inauguration in 1985," said Schumer's office. "When this occurs, the public ceremonies traditionally are held on Monday." The announcement added that Jan. 21 "is Martin Luther King Jr. Day. It will be the second time that this federal holiday has coincided with a presidential inauguration. The first was President Bill Clinton's second inauguration on Monday, Jan. 20, 1997." Not to mention that because this falls on a Sunday and the following Monday all of the banks will be closed! If all of this isn't enough to make you at least go HMMMMM, I wonder what will. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsthis Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 WOW it took him almost 10 years to come up with that I have said a window of this was from Sept to end of year now this guy comes out & say we could see this in (0 days & every goes nuts. Please I saw this from news I saw this year I didn't need 10 years to make a window this guy don't know anything I bet his is quoting some one on his 90 days. &everyone know one day these gurus will get the right day since they say it will rv every day. 2 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah Layne Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) I don't know, whatsthis. I'm not all that smart, but back in May or June when we started seeing articles quoting Shabs about removing the zeros in early January, I took it to mean... he'll remove the zeros in early January. I guess anything is possible, but when it didn't happen in July, I didn't think we'd have good reason to expect it until then. It's still 3 months off, but I still don't see any good reason to expect it until then. I hope we do! But King Dinar's thoughts are pretty similar to my own. But then again I'm nobody, so what do I know? Edited October 7, 2012 by Deborah Layne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4aprofit Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 We know that there are higher taxes possibly coming come Jan. 1, 2013, (this would give the U.S. higher returns on any redeemed dinars)...then we have seen where iraq supposedly purchased, or was to purchase Millions of Dollars of the new more advanced technology type DeLarue Machines, (why go hi-tech on toilet paper money)...then we see where they were getting many armored vehicles, to transport monies to and from the banks and other financial establishments...(one would think that they already would have had this, as is there something of more value coming to town)...what else could all of this be for, unless it is a new rate coming for their currency?...but, then now recently we see where U.S. Forces have been brought in to monitor most of the major hubs of transportation and other sectors, which would be pertinent if there were an RV, as per any illegal moves of the currency possibly, or laundering, theft, transportation used for smuggling, etc...(what else could all of this be needed for)...If things in Iraq are to be just business as usual, would'nt it seem all of this was uneeded...this is not to mention all of the financial meetings, even in London, regarding them coming online in many areas of banking and financials...to the world!...I guess we will see!..But, something is surely seeming to get close, if not an RV...someone tell me what all of the buildup and hooplah is for?... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah Layne Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Good points, 4aprofit. Who the heck knows? Not me, that's fo shizzle. Though there has been what I'd call "hoopla" off and on for about as long as I've been in this thing. First heard of the DeLarues being ordered and delivered in the spring of '11. Hilary started touting "invest in Iraq!" sometime in the summer of '11, if I'm not mistaken. Maliki was here. The Arab Summit took place! And we all knew it'd NEVER happen without an RV! Shabibi's London Conference has come and gone... as have deadlines, promises, and empty threats. One thing I don't believe is it will happen suddenly, when we're not expecting it. No way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polishfloridian Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 This "thing" is bigger than the Bush family... (Remember Osama was not apprehended/killed on his watch) This is about the Iraqi people. freedom libertad. They have had DECADES OF DECADENCE AND DICTATORSHIP. Do we really have any idea what they have to deal with on a daily basis? Why don't we PRAY for them....... SURE, I invested in dinar for a possible future return..... but at the same time we invested in the future of a beautiful country, a beautiful people, and a beautiful future. When our nation was founded... we had literacy. the two biggest sellers in the states was of course The Bible (Freedom) and Blackstone's Commentary on the Law (Knowledge) We were fiercely independent thinkers. Iraq has ILLITERACY, no example of freedom and no law (or rule of law) I am expressing MY OPINION ........... THANK GOD that we have this beautiful FREEDOM..... thanks for listening to my 'SERMON' ... still enjoying the ride with y'all Art 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropItLikeItsHot Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 It's an interesting theory I'll say that, So who is Kingdinar? I searched the DV site and found a post with Kingdinar and guess who else OKIE [kingdinar] Okie Oil Man – Would it make sense to think the US would want as much Dinar sold to people as possible so the US Treasury could capitolize on the maximum taxes. So in essence, we would not see the RV until the Dinar is scarce in the USA? Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz28dzp4yD4 I also did a Google search, I found this one to be interesting, KINGDINAR POST, 29 JULY 7-29-2012 KingDinar: Many says the RV has been held up, I say it wasn't due yet. Actually the timing of the RV as you well know is for global reset. We can be assured of this by the simple comments Shabibi has said in the past stating, "the Iraq Dinar will be a reserve currency", and "the most valuable currency in the Middle East". Understand, when the global community resets, there cannot be debt between one country to another. Debt will be forgiven worldwide, countries will base the value of their currency on the assets they have or hold. Many countries will use the Iraq currency held as an asset. This was not the beginning intention of the Iraq Dinar, or was it? We as the lower element in this, and yes I will say investment, is not privy to the big plan of global reset, but we see evidence of it progressing for the last couple of years. Here in USA, we see the national debt rise dramatically every second and yet we hear nothing of our congress or government saying a word of how they plan on reducing it. Why is this? Simply, there is no way to reduce it. It has gone past the point of a solution. And this is the case worldwide. If left on the path we move on, the global financial sector will self-implode within the next 2 years or sooner. This is why the Iraq Dinar will be a reserve currency, held by every central bank in the world. It will be a or the major asset used to start each country over. To give each country a base starting point. Just like we heard the two major banks in Iraq restructure. They had to be zero out, then re-financed or provided a new starting balance by the World Bank. The same will be for each Central Bank. It will be zeroed out, then provided (already set in place) a new balance of assets (Iraq Dinar) as a starting point. Yes, each country will have provided what it has as assets prior to adding Iraq Dinars (already done). Basically, as IMF stated last year, "the world strongest currency", will be a reserve currency or the asset that will start or assist each country's new beginning balance. Not sure if you have watched closely the articles about Shabibi or CBI. The last one was quite interesting, where the Director General of CBI stated that they had to initiate the "delete the zeros" (RV) at the beginning of the year, 1/1/13 (which is Iraq's beginning of their fiscal year) due to the fact that the problems of two currencies would be impossible for every bank in Iraq to maintain. Then right before this article, another surfaced, where Shabibi says the new currency would not be ready in time (1/1/13) but he had enough coinage to cover the "delete the zeros" process and would move ahead on schedule. This was HUGE, as Shabibi was stating he would "delete the zeros" (RV), the currency we hold, which would initially be used, and phase in the new currency over the next two years (replace new with old). This article alone, would kill any person's theory of a LOP. But more importantly, is the fact, the printing of the new currency seems to have been held off purposely for the reason that Shabibi would HAVE to use the currency we hold during the initial 'delete the zeros" process. Here is, to me what I enjoy even more. If Shabibi is determined to begin the process with our currency (lower denoms) and start specifically on 1/1/13, then the value of the currency has to rise or RV prior to releasing this on 1/1/13. This means, the RV, has to be in 2012. Initially, I thought it would have to be as close to 1/1/13 as possible, but since our currency will be used, it can happen any time prior to 1/1/13. Shabibi has stated publicly he will use the coinage (25 and 100 Dinar coins), makes sense to me he would add in the 50, 250 and 500 Dinar notes currenty being used on the streets, as this would cause less trouble since this is what's left the Iraqis are holding already. We know Shabibi, being as slick as he is, has devalued the Dinar in the past to draw in all the large notes (completed). Then, his task is to increase the value of the Dinar so the Iraqis will have confidence in the Dinar (meaning the value HAS to be higher than $1) and let loose of the US Dollars, causing the de-dollarization in Iraq and the RV at the same time. Even though this process is a global reset, Iraq still has to do their part while not letting on to the Iraqis, that Shabibi took them for a ride to accomplish what he had to do. We are at the end of this "investment" ride and we will see what we seek in the near future. What rate, what date? Well if it has been said by Shabibi, the Iraq Dinar will be the most valuable in the Middle East, I believe tells what the rate will be, and the date is this year. Look at all Middle East currencies presently and this should help you determine the rate. The same time this happens, you'll see new US currency stating US Treasury (on top) instead of Federal Reserve notes (bye bye Federal Reserve), you'll also see the demise of the Euro and each country going back to their currency as it will be asset backed by the worth of individual countries. I will say before the elections, this will be done. And sorry Tony, it will be USD not British, lol. When will that fat lady sing? http://dinaresgurus....st-29-july.html So again I ask who is this Kingdinar person? DropItLikeItsHot GO RV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeepguy Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 this has been going on for - my three years -- i jumped in and it was suppose too r.v. any day ,, any monday ,, then it was the new quarter of the taxation periods,, then it was the --- china , u.s.a , the globial reset of all currency then a few months ago we started seeing the will not happen until 2013 , then we hear then middle of 2013 ,,,,,,,, don`t forget we also heard of the lower notes and coins will be printed or started too show up at banks in last september ,,, the more poop i read on what the parliment and c.b.i state as when and what the dinar will do the more i shut off ,,,,,, quit looking ,,,,,,, getting burned out on the goofy news ,,,,, although the iraq country seems too be making a lot of progress ,,, they seem to also be going backward ,,, 3 steps up 2 steps back ,,,,, when is the next election for iraq too get rid of --- saddam i mean maliki ,,,, get this guy off the post and somebody who is in fact going too get a full goverment seated ,,, get the goverment too stand behaind all they say they are going to do ,,, then i would believe we will see some better information toword the re-value of dinar ------ the iraqi do not have faith in the dinar because they do not have faith in the iraq goverment ------------------- just my thinking -------- me i`m here because one of these days it will hit but the big question is --- when and from what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah Layne Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 This "thing" is bigger than the Bush family... (Remember Osama was not apprehended/killed on his watch) This is about the Iraqi people. freedom libertad. They have had DECADES OF DECADENCE AND DICTATORSHIP. Do we really have any idea what they have to deal with on a daily basis? Why don't we PRAY for them....... SURE, I invested in dinar for a possible future return..... but at the same time we invested in the future of a beautiful country, a beautiful people, and a beautiful future. When our nation was founded... we had literacy. the two biggest sellers in the states was of course The Bible (Freedom) and Blackstone's Commentary on the Law (Knowledge) We were fiercely independent thinkers. Iraq has ILLITERACY, no example of freedom and no law (or rule of law) I am expressing MY OPINION ........... THANK GOD that we have this beautiful FREEDOM..... thanks for listening to my 'SERMON' ... still enjoying the ride with y'all Art Thank YOU Art. Thanks for the reminder. You are one person I like to think will be wealthy me i`m here because one of these days it will hit but the big question is --- when and from what Maybe Brad Pitt, for moving in on his territory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captjohn Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 So, let's see, he's predicting an RV by Dec 31st, but then there's that pesky little Mayan long-count calendar thing on Dec 21st, sooo, I guess we don't sweat the RV as we will all be toast by then anyway. IMO, better we have an RV in October. Then we can take it all to Vegas and put it on red....between now and Dec. 21st....and go out with a bang. Hmmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybear Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 One of the better readings I have seen in 6 years. As more and more indictments start to reach-out and "touch" the likes of okie, bulldog, blaino, Tony and Frank26, we'll begin to see the truth of this investment along about the 1st month of next year. Perhaps the REAL truth of what Shabibi intends will surface. The events especially of the past 5 months are pointing CLEARLY that we have only been fed "make-it-up-as-you-go" speculation. Few, if any, hard facts are present to give any of us an inkling of the BIGGEST question: WHEN??? Fewer, if any, hard facts have been present to give ANY inkling of the SECOND question: HOW MUCH??? What we HAVE learned (and painfully at that), is that neither Blaino, Okie, Tony, Frankie (even if he sits on his blue couch), nor any OTHER guru has a CLUE! It would be SO MUCH better on everyone if they just SAID SO. It would avoid so much pain and also save so much money spent on grand juries, both federal and state. But that doesn't bring-in the paid-up blog members, does it? So. . .as we do get closer, we will watch as more and more of the pontificating gurus who have flooded the internet and been quoted here will receive both Federal and state indictments for all kinds of violations both of state and federal statutes. Florida and Ohio are just the starting grounds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hame55 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 We know that there are higher taxes possibly coming come Jan. 1, 2013, (this would give the U.S. higher returns on any redeemed dinars)...then we have seen where iraq supposedly purchased, or was to purchase Millions of Dollars of the new more advanced technology type DeLarue Machines, (why go hi-tech on toilet paper money)...then we see where they were getting many armored vehicles, to transport monies to and from the banks and other financial establishments...(one would think that they already would have had this, as is there something of more value coming to town)...what else could all of this be for, unless it is a new rate coming for their currency?...but, then now recently we see where U.S. Forces have been brought in to monitor most of the major hubs of transportation and other sectors, which would be pertinent if there were an RV, as per any illegal moves of the currency possibly, or laundering, theft, transportation used for smuggling, etc...(what else could all of this be needed for)...If things in Iraq are to be just business as usual, would'nt it seem all of this was uneeded...this is not to mention all of the financial meetings, even in London, regarding them coming online in many areas of banking and financials...to the world!...I guess we will see!..But, something is surely seeming to get close, if not an RV...someone tell me what all of the buildup and hooplah is for?... good reading btwn the lines...esp DelaRue machines and talk of corruption and money laundering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hame55 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 (edited) It's an interesting theory I'll say that, So who is Kingdinar? I searched the DV site and found a post with Kingdinar and guess who else OKIE [kingdinar] Okie Oil Man – Would it make sense to think the US would want as much Dinar sold to people as possible so the US Treasury could capitolize on the maximum taxes. So in essence, we would not see the RV until the Dinar is scarce in the USA? Read more: http://dinarvets.com.../#ixzz28dzp4yD4 I also did a Google search, I found this one to be interesting, KINGDINAR POST, 29 JULY 7-29-2012 KingDinar: Many says the RV has been held up, I say it wasn't due yet. Actually the timing of the RV as you well know is for global reset. We can be assured of this by the simple comments Shabibi has said in the past stating, "the Iraq Dinar will be a reserve currency", and "the most valuable currency in the Middle East". Understand, when the global community resets, there cannot be debt between one country to another. Debt will be forgiven worldwide, countries will base the value of their currency on the assets they have or hold. Many countries will use the Iraq currency held as an asset. This was not the beginning intention of the Iraq Dinar, or was it? We as the lower element in this, and yes I will say investment, is not privy to the big plan of global reset, but we see evidence of it progressing for the last couple of years. Here in USA, we see the national debt rise dramatically every second and yet we hear nothing of our congress or government saying a word of how they plan on reducing it. Why is this? Simply, there is no way to reduce it. It has gone past the point of a solution. And this is the case worldwide. If left on the path we move on, the global financial sector will self-implode within the next 2 years or sooner. This is why the Iraq Dinar will be a reserve currency, held by every central bank in the world. It will be a or the major asset used to start each country over. To give each country a base starting point. Just like we heard the two major banks in Iraq restructure. They had to be zero out, then re-financed or provided a new starting balance by the World Bank. The same will be for each Central Bank. It will be zeroed out, then provided (already set in place) a new balance of assets (Iraq Dinar) as a starting point. Yes, each country will have provided what it has as assets prior to adding Iraq Dinars (already done). Basically, as IMF stated last year, "the world strongest currency", will be a reserve currency or the asset that will start or assist each country's new beginning balance. Not sure if you have watched closely the articles about Shabibi or CBI. The last one was quite interesting, where the Director General of CBI stated that they had to initiate the "delete the zeros" (RV) at the beginning of the year, 1/1/13 (which is Iraq's beginning of their fiscal year) due to the fact that the problems of two currencies would be impossible for every bank in Iraq to maintain. Then right before this article, another surfaced, where Shabibi says the new currency would not be ready in time (1/1/13) but he had enough coinage to cover the "delete the zeros" process and would move ahead on schedule. This was HUGE, as Shabibi was stating he would "delete the zeros" (RV), the currency we hold, which would initially be used, and phase in the new currency over the next two years (replace new with old). This article alone, would kill any person's theory of a LOP. But more importantly, is the fact, the printing of the new currency seems to have been held off purposely for the reason that Shabibi would HAVE to use the currency we hold during the initial 'delete the zeros" process. Here is, to me what I enjoy even more. If Shabibi is determined to begin the process with our currency (lower denoms) and start specifically on 1/1/13, then the value of the currency has to rise or RV prior to releasing this on 1/1/13. This means, the RV, has to be in 2012. Initially, I thought it would have to be as close to 1/1/13 as possible, but since our currency will be used, it can happen any time prior to 1/1/13. Shabibi has stated publicly he will use the coinage (25 and 100 Dinar coins), makes sense to me he would add in the 50, 250 and 500 Dinar notes currenty being used on the streets, as this would cause less trouble since this is what's left the Iraqis are holding already. We know Shabibi, being as slick as he is, has devalued the Dinar in the past to draw in all the large notes (completed). Then, his task is to increase the value of the Dinar so the Iraqis will have confidence in the Dinar (meaning the value HAS to be higher than $1) and let loose of the US Dollars, causing the de-dollarization in Iraq and the RV at the same time. Even though this process is a global reset, Iraq still has to do their part while not letting on to the Iraqis, that Shabibi took them for a ride to accomplish what he had to do. We are at the end of this "investment" ride and we will see what we seek in the near future. What rate, what date? Well if it has been said by Shabibi, the Iraq Dinar will be the most valuable in the Middle East, I believe tells what the rate will be, and the date is this year. Look at all Middle East currencies presently and this should help you determine the rate. The same time this happens, you'll see new US currency stating US Treasury (on top) instead of Federal Reserve notes (bye bye Federal Reserve), you'll also see the demise of the Euro and each country going back to their currency as it will be asset backed by the worth of individual countries. I will say before the elections, this will be done. And sorry Tony, it will be USD not British, lol. When will that fat lady sing? http://dinaresgurus....st-29-july.html So again I ask who is this Kingdinar person? DropItLikeItsHot GO RV Some of these ideas seems suspect---the "global reset" Really? Since when does the whole world work together on anything? We can' even agree here in the US that Repubs should go the way of the dinosaurs...(couldn't resist...) The other suspect idea seems to be the rate - King Dinar says "just look at other ME countries cause Shabs said it would be highest in ME. Ok, maybe years down the road it might be highest. This is just politics and rhetoric. And WHICH Middle East countries? Saudis with about 23 cents, or Kuwait over $3? Which one? Seems confusing. This guy seems to be another conspiracy guru. Edited October 8, 2012 by hame55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PowerGeneration Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Well all I can say is I collect coins I metal detect for them and buy them outright and what blows a big hole in his story is the only coins I found in Iraq during 2003 to 2005 were the old coins,The new coins (2004) were NEVER distributed or I would own them or I would have found some as he said thrown into the streets. When I first got to Iraq in march 2003 I bought some saddam money and the new money in 2004 from Iraqi nationals because then it was illegal for a american to own this currency.PERIOD!!!! If they found their money on you it was confiscated when you tried to leave the country.PERIOD!!! How do I know this I went to the CBI in bagdag and tried to buy the new currency I was turned away by Iraqi guards in the bank.I asked an Iraqi national to buy one of each bill and coin in 2004 and he said there were no new coins to buy only used coins and bills. I did figure out a way to get my money home and that wasnt easy! And also there was not a certificate when I bought there bills.Just a typical reciept that shows the amount purchased in there language.I was able to travel around Iraq because I was a power generation specialist my job was in high demand and every city I went to I ask about coins and was shown the old ones. I dont know the date that bush passed this law about owning the currency but you can ask any troup or KBR or haliburton employee during 2003 You could not leave the country with thier currency.Of course my metal detector was confiscated 3 days after I got it so I didnt find any new coins as he says only a few old ones that were hard to make out. I never wanted to leave thier country but with my luck I caught a mortar and lost a arm The people there were so kind and honest I didnt want to leave.I am a libertarian and believe if you want the job done right YOU as a people have to do it yourself. Although his story seems good he has never been to Iraq thats for sure. I purchased Kuwait money,Iran Money,Durham,and of course our beloved Dinar. The USA will never let us make out huge on this money so If I cant get 25 cents to 1 I will burn 20 mil on you tube for our wonderful government to see.I am a seasoned verteran LT. desert storm and Iraqi freedom soldier and all I get from this lousy country is 632.00 a month wetbacks get more than I do is That fair I say? You will all see the true USA when this goes down in the near future or soon or in the coming days As I have said before I saw haliburton buy or steal 4 full conex's of new dinar and bush jr. got 1 conex full so I know its going to be worth something one day or they wouldnt have gotten it. If we all pulled together as a country SHOULD we could demand the price we want or destroy it all and the government wouldnt want that now would they.You can bet the farm our government will hold this currency after they poked us real good for it so they can wait and bag out big! This is only MHO because as a officer I know what this country is capable of. every time I see rates of more than a dollar all I can do is laugh our gov will NEVER let us make that kind of money.PERIOD!!!! any questions? bash me to death goat head I guess I got it coming dont I? our gov already poked me deep. from a bent over vet I am already greased. Throwing the new coins into the streets my eyes are tearing up from laughing so hard !!!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francie26 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 So, let's see, he's predicting an RV by Dec 31st, but then there's that pesky little Mayan long-count calendar thing on Dec 21st, sooo, I guess we don't sweat the RV as we will all be toast by then anyway. IMO, better we have an RV in October. Then we can take it all to Vegas and put it on red....between now and Dec. 21st....and go out with a bang. Hmmmm Capt, if you go out with a bang, it will be your own private bang, and not due to an aberation in the solar system. haha That calendar is ending, but it doesn't mean the world is ending, too. Nor time. It's just that we are moving from the Age of Pices to the Age of Aquarius because the earth, in its rotation, also has a very long wobble, and with each wobble, Earth moves into a new Age, a period of 26,750 years or so. The old age will end on December 21st, the end of the Mayan calendar, and the new age will begin immediately, with no gap between the two. We are fortunate of all people to be among the first human beings to witness this event and to know it. Early astronomers knew of such events, but no one really knows what people who lived as long as 26,780 years ago knew? Of course someone said the Mayan calendar will end this December 21st because the rock carver who created it simply ran out of rock. haha Oh, and one more thing: The earth, our sun, and the center of our solar system will be in direct alighment on that date as well. it will be a marvelous day, unique throughout all of time and space. We won't "feel" anything special, but just knowing how rare we are among all of humankind to be alive at this special time should be enough. Listen to the music by 5th Dimension here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixirbaby Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Thanks for sharing Power. No bashing from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francie26 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 I don't know, whatsthis. I'm not all that smart, but back in May or June when we started seeing articles quoting Shabs about removing the zeros in early January, I took it to mean... he'll remove the zeros in early January. I guess anything is possible, but when it didn't happen in July, I didn't think we'd have good reason to expect it until then. It's still 3 months off, but I still don't see any good reason to expect it until then. I hope we do! But King Dinar's thoughts are pretty similar to my own. But then again I'm nobody, so what do I know? You're just as "somebody" as anyone else here, so don't you ever forget it!! As to what you know, it seems to me that you "know" as much as any of the others here unless they have been to Iraq or studied the Iraqi monetary system or have some other "expert" qualification, which most of us don't have. In fact, most of us just learn from each other and form opinions, and then speak "our truth" as we see it. and if you are doing that, you are doing all you need to do to claim "expert status" at Dinar Vets. So don't put yourself down ever!! There is nothing to be gained by it, and much to lose, so it's just not worth doing. (I learned this the hard way. haha). Besides, every time you say something like that about yourself, you drive that ole' nail in deeper so you believe it more and more. Not good!! Don't do it!! Ever!! <VBS> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph_the_Red Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 I think everyone knows it cannot be the 31st... it will be the 20th or the 21st. Because the mayans said the 21st of December, 2012 is the end of the world. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Quote I never wanted to leave thier country but with my luck I caught a mortar and lost a arm End Quote Sorry to hear about that, PG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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