Popular Post TrinityeXchange Posted September 7, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 The Strategic Framework Agreement - Section 2: In this regard, the United States shall ensure maximum efforts to work with and through the democratically elected Goverment of Iraq....... Support and strengthen Iraq’s democracy and its democratic institutions as defined and established in the Iraqi Constitution, and in so doing, enhance Iraq’s capability to protect these institutions against all internal and external threats...... this was signed by Maliki and as I mentioned in previous post, he may have very well been signing his death warrant. pay detailed attention to the words in this article because the players are strategically referring to the SFA in the words that they choose. Maliki can cause violations day after day and it means nothing.....unless he is found in breach of contract. and here my friends he is in a very bad situation because US intelligence has found evidence that may deem him in breach of contract as well as an internal threat to the agreed upon democratic process. the United States had already made it abundantly clear that the ONLY model government we will work through is a democratic one contractually, and now we see that Maliki may be found disingenuous in providing this governmental model. from this point forward i think this man will begin to play ball like never before else his days as PM is numbered. we will see... Iraqi politician: U.S. hawks are upset of Maliki's support for the Assad regime The time on Thursday, 06 September / September 2012 11:32 Baghdad / Orr News / agencies Presented three members of the U.S. Senate to Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki yesterday compelling evidence includes recordings of phone calls between Iranian officials and Iraqis on the support of President Bashar al-Assad, also provided images captured by satellite for military aircraft Iranian landing and taking off from Baghdad International Airport, carrying weapons and military equipment at airports Syrian military and civilian. According to Iraqi political sources close access, the delegation Senate, hawks, Maliki told breach Baghdad security agreement allowing the Guards transit toward Syria, also made the U.S. delegation to the owners images on convoys of the Revolutionary Guards enter the Iraqi border, as well as imagery via satellite for caravans same as it left Iraqi territory heading to Syria. The sources said the delegation Senate component of John McCain and John Lieberman and Lindsey Graham have told Maliki said in an interview expressed anger and out of diplomatic etiquette, in what they described speech frankness and openness, and the sources said that the delegation was told that allow the submission of Iranian support for the Syrian president over the skies of Iraq and its territory means that Baghdad has become a part of Iran, a violation of the agreements signed between the Iraqi government and the U.S. administration. The sources said the delegation told al-Maliki and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who met him at a later time that the American people are frustrated by such acts despite the sacrifices made by the liberation of Iraq, which did not produce a democratic system leads to the stability of the region, but a pro-Iranian regime. The sources, who asked not to be named, said the U.S. delegation told al-Maliki that the U.S. administration has become alarmed by the actions of the Iraqi government, which Thrjha in front of the American people. Meanwhile dominated security force coming from Baghdad on a port-based Frontier, which leads to the Syrian town of Abu Kamal and port workers expelled. The sources said the Iraqi city of Qaim that this security force took control of all routes leading to the existing border crossing with Syria and prevented farmers from reaching their land near the crossing also banned the shepherds region. He said McCain and Lieberman and Graham told reporters during a visit to Baghdad that Tehran told Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki that the aircraft carrying supplies and humanitarian aid, the United States believes the U.S. as transporting military equipment. Lieberman said we raised our concerns on the Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs about the flights. He added that al-Maliki said he had received a promise from the Iranians that these trips are limited to humanitarian aid, but we think otherwise. He thought that we have to offer him Maliki directory from which we can ... to explain why we believe that the Iranian aircraft ... carrying materials ... Leo managed to kill people. McCain stressed that it is a violation of UN Security Council resolutions. The newspaper "New York Times" U.S. quoted yesterday officials, did not reveal their identities, saying that the administration of President Barack Obama pressed Baghdad to close air corridor that Iran was using earlier this year and raised the topic with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, but Iran has doubled from support for the Syrian president after the rebels made progress and shaken the Assad regime after the bombing led to the killing of senior Syrian military officials. The officials pointed out that flights carrying military equipment from Iran, "resumed again in July, and is continuing since then, in what constitutes a nuisance to American officials." Officials stressed that Tehran "play a greater role in Syria in many ways." The newspaper considered that supply Tehran to Damascus weapons atmosphere "raises questions in America that are still reluctant to provide weapons to the rebels Syrians or the imposition of a no-fly fearing diving in Syrian conflict, but that the support provided by Iran to the Syrian government refers to the fact that they do not hesitate to provide military supplies and advisers to assist in the survival of the ruling regime. " It also quoted a U.S. official as saying that in addition to the Iranian military supplies, "there are credible reports that Iraqi militia fighters from the Iranian-backed, find a way for them to Syria to help Assad." 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yota691 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Thanks TrinityeXchange +1 and 5 stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalite Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Let's see who Maliki blames this on; or if he denies it. These guys have all the finess of a teen aged boy in a room full of cheerleaders. No restraint whatsoever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReVbo Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Thanks, TE. I think you're exactly right. Big Brother doesn't spend a trillion dollars and lose 4500 lives to be made to look like a fool by one idiot who wants to play dictator. We own this guy now, and he better get with the program, or he's gonna end up like Milosevic or Saddam. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityeXchange Posted September 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Thanks, TE. I think you're exactly right. Big Brother doesn't spend a trillion dollars and lose 4500 lives to be made to look like a fool by one idiot who wants to play dictator. We own this guy now, and he better get with the program, or he's gonna end up like Milosevic or Saddam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlay901 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Nice find T.E. Thanks for the post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leanonme Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Maliki is a fool if he thinks he can render aid to these countries without us finding out about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Thanks, TE. I think you're exactly right. Big Brother doesn't spend a trillion dollars and lose 4500 lives to be made to look like a fool by one idiot who wants to play dictator. We own this guy now, and he better get with the program, or he's gonna end up like Milosevic or Saddam. Milosevic or Saddam? I could go either way with that one. Take your pick and do it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReVbo Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Milosevic or Saddam? I could go either way with that one. Take your pick and do it! A quick drone strike would work, too. I'm flexible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandstorm Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Just bigger problems everyday. we think we are moving forward...then its a mile backwards. this debacle..followed by barzani threatening war on baghdad or succession from iraq, creating an independent state. Here again we sit at the brink of chaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReVbo Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Just bigger problems everyday. we think we are moving forward...then its a mile backwards. this debacle..followed by barzani threatening war on baghdad or succession from iraq, creating an independent state. Here again we sit at the brink of chaos Did you mean to respond to this post? I read this as very good news. We've got him backed into a corner, and according to another post by Yota this morning, Maliki is ready to seat the defense minister. Buck up. It's a good day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caz1104 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 A quick drone strike would work, too. I'm flexible. That made my morning!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Just bigger problems everyday. we think we are moving forward...then its a mile backwards. this debacle..followed by barzani threatening war on baghdad or succession from iraq, creating an independent state. Here again we sit at the brink of chaos lol dont be so depressing alot of it is just words... only believe half of what you read when it comes to Iraq or for any main source media for that matter. Keep a positive outlook. Did you mean to respond to this post? I read this as very good news. We've got him backed into a corner, and according to another post by Yota this morning, Maliki is ready to seat the defense minister. Buck up. It's a good day. I agree this is good news Maliki is only a puppet and will never ever be able to accomplish dictatorship we will NOT let that occur. Edited September 7, 2012 by easyrider 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnbplanet Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Of course this is good news! The U.S. and the UNSC are involved. Coincidentally, the two most important factions for a Chapter 7 release, and both influential with the IMF. If Iraq is ever going to crawl out of the stone age, they need the these two entities to approve it. Peeing in their Wheaties like this is NOT going to get that done, and they WILL hang the Chapter 7 approval over their heads until they get their way. Iran CANNOT provide Iraq international standing. If Iraq DOESN'T get worldwide acceptance, the knuckleheads in their government right now might as well not even run for office in the upcoming elections, because they will have "lost face" with the people, and their opponents will rip them to shreds. The government would revert to Sunni control, and they won't let that happen. They HAVE to behave themselves, and they have to do it NOW. NOW is a LOT sooner than "soon". I believe things should move along rather quickly now. Edited September 7, 2012 by fnbplanet 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReVbo Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Of course this is good news! The U.S. and the UNSC are involved. Coincidentally, the two most important factions for a Chapter 7 release, and both influential with the IMF. If Iraq is ever going to crawl out of the stone age, they need the these two entities to approve it. Peeing in their Wheaties like this is NOT going to get that done, and they WILL hang the Chapter 7 approval over their heads until they get their way. Iran CANNOT provide Iraq international standing. If Iraq DOESN'T get worldwide acceptance, the knuckleheads in their government right now might as well not even run for office in the upcoming elections, because they will have "lost face" with the people, and their opponents will rip them to shreds. The government would revert to Sunni control, and they won't let that happen. They HAVE to behave themselves, and they have to do it NOW. NOW is a LOT sooner than "soon". I believe things should move along rather quickly now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D1cap6yETA Edited September 7, 2012 by ReVbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Maliki is walking on thin ice and its about to break if he doesnt play ball we have given him ample time to agree and play nice to instill democracy to his people. Now we have had enough with this clown his position is in jeopardy and dont think he is NOT well aware of it neither. Another thing Maliki is already very wealthy but people that have tons of money think of money as nothing but they want power and I know Maliki sees that slipping away he better get it together or else it NOT gonna be pretty for him. Edited September 7, 2012 by easyrider 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityeXchange Posted September 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 They HAVE to behave themselves, and they have to do it NOW. NOW is a LOT sooner than "soon". I believe things should move along rather quickly now. well said my friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butifldrm Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Maliki is a Dumb A$$. He deserves to be taken out in handcuffs just for being so STUPID. We'll see what kind of deal he strikes,. Hopefully, we will see the necessary details convienienatly fall into place to move Iraq forward. I'd be real surprised if he is allowed to run again. Thanks Trinity for the post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnbplanet Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 If you really think about it, it's kind of cyclical. They lean towards th U.S. on an issue, and Iran summons Maliki or Sadr to Tehran for a tongue lashing. They stray from agreements with the rest of the world, and they get threatened to be left to their own devices and stay a third world country forever. Back and forth. Let's hope that the latest swing back towards our direction gets us some REAL progress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 What amazes me is that no matter what Maliki does, he squeaks by and gets to stay the PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrello Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Did you mean to respond to this post? I read this as very good news. We've got him backed into a corner, and according to another post by Yota this morning, Maliki is ready to seat the defense minister. Buck up. It's a good day. Ditto! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncirculd Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Just bigger problems everyday. we think we are moving forward...then its a mile backwards. this debacle..followed by barzani threatening war on baghdad or succession from iraq, creating an independent state. Here again we sit at the brink of chaos you know maliki has been the problem for the longest time. I think a lot of it would go away if he could be taken out of the equation. We know he uses force, intimidation, and death to run his dictatorial regime. The project would be to get rid of him and you will see progress. He is losing support daily. His own party. One of his own Dawa party member told the truth about the torturing and forced confessions extracted from Hashemi's body guards. Maliki's but is in deep doodoo. Hashemi is not a fugitive. Never has been. Hashemi stood for progress, maliki can't have that. It would stop his dictarship. He needed control of the country. All the while folks were bashing Hashemi and Barzani, it was not in our interest for them 2 men to go away. They are on our side of progress. If the Kurds, Turkey and other countries would have not protected him, maliki would have had him killed. That was the plan to get him in prison and have him die of natural causes like his body guards. Hashemi would be president if Talabani could not longer serve. Hashemi could have taken maliki out with a no confidence if he were president. It still could happen now that he is not having to hide. If Talabni resigns, look out. Hashemi will be President and I am pretty sure he will take the signatures and not force the questioning. Remember, Talabani had said if he had to he would offer up his resignation. My, my, it's getting very interesting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi-five Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Game Over!!! The only reason Maliki is still in power is because the US is getting valuable info. from his actions. This is getting really exciting! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnbplanet Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Maybe he's a double-naught spy! Edited September 7, 2012 by fnbplanet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie123 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Great Thread Trinity The opinions are helpful also... Thanks All I just deleted most of my post because I saw all the additional comments from when I started it. I agree with a lot of your reasons for why they may be keeping Maliki in... or not. It's getting real interesting indeed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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