delta22 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Do you remember 1987...... Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information......... It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration. There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning! He was being drilled by a senator, 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?' Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.' The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little excessive?' 'No, sir,' continued Ollie. 'No? And why not?' the senator asked. 'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.' 'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned. 'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered. 'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?' 'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied. At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?' the senator asked. 'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered. 'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator. 'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.' The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip. By the way, that senator was Al Gore! Also: Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called 'political prisoners.' However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, 'insisted' that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked us by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports. If you agree that the American public should be made aware of this fact, pass this on. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlos in san diego Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Delta....you really need to get yourself up to speed. The CIA has controlled Al-Qaeda since the days of the Mushahadin in Afghanistan when they were trying to get the Soviets out. Al-Qaeda is a US proxy...supported by the US to make you FEAR. Put down the GOP fascist propaganda handbook and find out the truth...because right now, you are propagating mis-information. You are spreading the same lies are government is spreading. 9/11 was an inside job. The plan had been made years before. The event was the culmination of a false flag operation designed to in till fear and hate in the American people so that they would willingly want to punish the muslims for their cowardly attack on a freedom loving people. The truth is that the Muslims were not to blame, it was the Bush Administration that orchestrated the attack to make it look like the Muslims had done it. The proof is in the many videos available of the collapsing buildings. In every video it is obvious that the buildings suffered what is called in the construction trades as a "controlled implosion" All three building that collapsed did so at free fall speed, directly in their footprint. This type of fall can only be achieved by the removal of the steel supports that were the key structural component of the buildings. The removal of the steel supports was done by the use of "thermite" This melts away the steel and blows it out of the way. Saddam Hussain was not responsible for the attack on the twin towers, yet we invaded Iraq because we were told he was responsible. Causing the death of untold hundreds of thousands of un-needed civilian casualties. You need to wake up DELTA and follow the money trail that leads to those that did actually profit from the Iraq war....The Banker Elite. You just mentioned in your post about your hero...Reagan and Oliver North...Good upstanding citizens huh? Think again, Reagan and North were responsible for drug smuggling in Los Angeles, California to be sold mostly to the black community, and the proceeds were used to buy weapons from Iran to support a band of Thugs in Central America...That's drug smuggling and gun running across international borders to support an agenda of the elite Banksters? This is all right in your book? You are not doing a service to the American people Delta by being the cheerleader for this type of behavior! You and people like you degrade our principles and good will. No wonder we are hated around the world! Carlos 9 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwizard Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Carlos must be crazy, geeezzz....... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divemaster5734 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Delta....you really need to get yourself up to speed. The CIA has controlled Al-Qaeda since the days of the Mushahadin in Afghanistan when they were trying to get the Soviets out. Al-Qaeda is a US proxy...supported by the US to make you FEAR. Put down the GOP fascist propaganda handbook and find out the truth...because right now, you are propagating mis-information. You are spreading the same lies are government is spreading. 9/11 was an inside job. The plan had been made years before. The event was the culmination of a false flag operation designed to in till fear and hate in the American people so that they would willingly want to punish the muslims for their cowardly attack on a freedom loving people. The truth is that the Muslims were not to blame, it was the Bush Administration that orchestrated the attack to make it look like the Muslims had done it. The proof is in the many videos available of the collapsing buildings. In every video it is obvious that the buildings suffered what is called in the construction trades as a "controlled implosion" All three building that collapsed did so at free fall speed, directly in their footprint. This type of fall can only be achieved by the removal of the steel supports that were the key structural component of the buildings. The removal of the steel supports was done by the use of "thermite" This melts away the steel and blows it out of the way. Saddam Hussain was not responsible for the attack on the twin towers, yet we invaded Iraq because we were told he was responsible. Causing the death of untold hundreds of thousands of un-needed civilian casualties. You need to wake up DELTA and follow the money trail that leads to those that did actually profit from the Iraq war....The Banker Elite. You just mentioned in your post about your hero...Reagan and Oliver North...Good upstanding citizens huh? Think again, Reagan and North were responsible for drug smuggling in Los Angeles, California to be sold mostly to the black community, and the proceeds were used to buy weapons from Iran to support a band of Thugs in Central America...That's drug smuggling and gun running across international borders to support an agenda of the elite Banksters? This is all right in your book? You are not doing a service to the American people Delta by being the cheerleader for this type of behavior! You and people like you degrade our principles and good will. No wonder we are hated around the world! Carlos Unfortunately a lot of people have been completely convinced of the media and government's excuse for 911. It was once widely known that Al Queda was only the FBI's name for the terrorist database, it was used in a news story once, and then suddenly became the name of the "organization". I once left a bible study group when during a discussion the host declared bush Jr was a Spirit filled Christian. Wow, I was shocked anyone still believed any Bush at their word. All anyone has to do is very basic research to confirm they were as crooked as any mafia family. The real kicker is the host refused to even look at the evidence, she was totally brainwashed because bush used the "right words". That was the day I realized it was time for me to leave "organized" religion, and finally become a true Christian. The problem people have is if they allow themselves to see the truth it would lead to an inevitable conclusion, and they would have to admit our government has been full of sh*t for a very long time. It's much easier to destroy the messenger and live in happy denial until the end, thus proving, ignorance really IS bliss. All that said, the point of the post was to expose the fact our government knew of the terrorist threat a long time before anything happened, and it was the progressive liberals that has been endangering our society Probably because our government MADE the terrorists, and then made them hate America, a long time before anything happened. I could only take away one of the negs, it is good to see others with the courage to post the truth. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitedrich Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Delta, Thanks! I am old enough to remember, actually watched the footage as it happened, but at the time, Osama Bin Laden was just another name as were the Lockerbie bomber and so many more at the time, so as far as we knew, it was another fanatical Jiihadist that wanted the western culture removed from the record books. My Gosh, how times have changed. Thanks for the post! Rich 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleslayer Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Carlos must be crazy, geeezzz....... Ditto! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamagirl Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Delta, Thanks! I am old enough to remember, actually watched the footage as it happened, but at the time, Osama Bin Laden was just another name as were the Lockerbie bomber and so many more at the time, so as far as we knew, it was another fanatical Jiihadist that wanted the western culture removed from the record books. My Gosh, how times have changed. Thanks for the post! Rich I remember my mom watching this going on also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinarDana Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Ditto! No Carlos is not crazy. if one speaks the truth, seeks the truth, they are labeled crazy because they don't take the propaganda fed to us as face value. Keep seeking my friend, keep sharing, I don't judge your sanity. I will seek my own truth in unison with yours and when our conclusions intersect I know I am on the right journey. I remember my mom watching this going on also Your Mom? uh oh I remember this. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerpager Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Black Monday !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveDeepSix Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Delta....you really need to get yourself up to speed. The CIA has controlled Al-Qaeda since the days of the Mushahadin in Afghanistan when they were trying to get the Soviets out. Al-Qaeda is a US proxy...supported by the US to make you FEAR. Put down the GOP fascist propaganda handbook and find out the truth...because right now, you are propagating mis-information. You are spreading the same lies are government is spreading. 9/11 was an inside job. The plan had been made years before. The event was the culmination of a false flag operation designed to in till fear and hate in the American people so that they would willingly want to punish the muslims for their cowardly attack on a freedom loving people. The truth is that the Muslims were not to blame, it was the Bush Administration that orchestrated the attack to make it look like the Muslims had done it. The proof is in the many videos available of the collapsing buildings. In every video it is obvious that the buildings suffered what is called in the construction trades as a "controlled implosion" All three building that collapsed did so at free fall speed, directly in their footprint. This type of fall can only be achieved by the removal of the steel supports that were the key structural component of the buildings. The removal of the steel supports was done by the use of "thermite" This melts away the steel and blows it out of the way. Saddam Hussain was not responsible for the attack on the twin towers, yet we invaded Iraq because we were told he was responsible. Causing the death of untold hundreds of thousands of un-needed civilian casualties. You need to wake up DELTA and follow the money trail that leads to those that did actually profit from the Iraq war....The Banker Elite. You just mentioned in your post about your hero...Reagan and Oliver North...Good upstanding citizens huh? Think again, Reagan and North were responsible for drug smuggling in Los Angeles, California to be sold mostly to the black community, and the proceeds were used to buy weapons from Iran to support a band of Thugs in Central America...That's drug smuggling and gun running across international borders to support an agenda of the elite Banksters? This is all right in your book? You are not doing a service to the American people Delta by being the cheerleader for this type of behavior! You and people like you degrade our principles and good will. No wonder we are hated around the world! Carlos Oh Please, still stuck in the we committed 911 on ourselves conspiracy, there is nothing to show that we had anything to do with it whatsoever. Do I think our govt. knew about it, yes with out a doubt, did they take it seriously? Obviously not. Did we do it to ourselves? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL! Even the Illuminati don't think our govt. had anything to do with it and they obviously hate the govt. and are as about as whacked out as they come as far as conspiracy theories go. As far as Reagan and North, seriously? What about your boy O's acts of treason the man should be hung by the US justice system, not running again to finish destroying America. I for one could care less what the world thinks about us, if it wasn't for us most of them would be speaking German or Russian right now, so love it or leave it pal. Thanks for the post Delta, how soon we forget! Edited July 25, 2012 by DiveDeepSix 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Delta....you really need to get yourself up to speed. The CIA has controlled Al-Qaeda since the days of the Mushahadin in Afghanistan when they were trying to get the Soviets out. Al-Qaeda is a US proxy...supported by the US to make you FEAR. Put down the GOP fascist propaganda handbook and find out the truth...because right now, you are propagating mis-information. You are spreading the same lies are government is spreading. 9/11 was an inside job. The plan had been made years before. The event was the culmination of a false flag operation designed to in till fear and hate in the American people so that they would willingly want to punish the muslims for their cowardly attack on a freedom loving people. The truth is that the Muslims were not to blame, it was the Bush Administration that orchestrated the attack to make it look like the Muslims had done it. The proof is in the many videos available of the collapsing buildings. In every video it is obvious that the buildings suffered what is called in the construction trades as a "controlled implosion" All three building that collapsed did so at free fall speed, directly in their footprint. This type of fall can only be achieved by the removal of the steel supports that were the key structural component of the buildings. The removal of the steel supports was done by the use of "thermite" This melts away the steel and blows it out of the way. Saddam Hussain was not responsible for the attack on the twin towers, yet we invaded Iraq because we were told he was responsible. Causing the death of untold hundreds of thousands of un-needed civilian casualties. You need to wake up DELTA and follow the money trail that leads to those that did actually profit from the Iraq war....The Banker Elite. You just mentioned in your post about your hero...Reagan and Oliver North...Good upstanding citizens huh? Think again, Reagan and North were responsible for drug smuggling in Los Angeles, California to be sold mostly to the black community, and the proceeds were used to buy weapons from Iran to support a band of Thugs in Central America...That's drug smuggling and gun running across international borders to support an agenda of the elite Banksters? This is all right in your book? You are not doing a service to the American people Delta by being the cheerleader for this type of behavior! You and people like you degrade our principles and good will. No wonder we are hated around the world! Carlos Since you have no experience in the construction-demolition field, I find it hard to believe that you would know anything about the way any building collapsed, and that you can say adamantly, that the 3 structures fell in a controlled implosion. All of the evidence I've seen, points to structural collapse due to internal bearing giving way due to fire damage. Btw, I do happen to have experience in Construction & Engineering As far as the Iraq war, the current civilian death count, by coalition and Iraqi forces, is 66,000....43,000 Iraqi soldiers and terrorists add to a total of 109,000...A lot of those civilians, maybe most, were killed by Iraqi's.....so your numbers are a little off You're completely lost on Iran-Contra...easy to do since what you're looking at is anti-Conservative blogs, and you're young enough not to have lived this history. The facts are...In 1986 it was revealed that a secret U.S. operation had been selling military equipment to Iran, in exchange for the release of U.S. hostages, and that money from the arms sales was being illegally diverted to help anti-socialist forces (called Contras) fight the government of Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. No drugs, no weapons bought from Iran (silly on the face of it) With that part of the argument aside, Lets take a look at the Al Qaeda/CIA connection. Charlie Wilson helped the CIA through Black Operations funding from the House appropriations Committee to fund Afghan Rebels against the Communist Soviets, starting in 1980. Later, Congress directly funded the rebels (Mujahideen) Funding both from the CIA & Congress 1979-1989. Bin Ladin formed AlQaeda in 1988, Osama broke away from Maktab al Khidamat, a group formed in 1984 after Osama left the Mujahideen. While the CIA supported the Mujahideen from 1979-1989, Bin Ladin funded his own group from his own family fortune. With all that said.....You are a little behind the times and need to get up to speed. Lets disregard all of the eye witnesses to both the twin towers plane crashes and the witnesses of the Pentagon hit....Lets forget about the 'evolving' 911 conspiracy.... (Ghost planes and Media video remakes) The latest 911 conspiracy is that Mini-Nukes were used by Israel after evacuating all of their people from both buildings. (total hokum).....but c'mon man gotta stay up with the times there guy. Edited July 25, 2012 by cris 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveDeepSix Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Since you have no experience in the construction-demolition field, I find it hard to believe that you would know anything about the way any building collapsed, and that you can say adamantly, that the 3 structures fell in a controlled implosion. All of the evidence I've seen, points to structural collapse due to internal bearing giving way due to fire damage. Btw, I do happen to have experience in Construction & Engineering As far as the Iraq war, the current civilian death count, by coalition and Iraqi forces, is 66,000....43,000 Iraqi soldiers and terrorists add to a total of 109,000...A lot of those civilians, maybe most, were killed by Iraqi's.....so your numbers are a little off You're completely lost on Iran-Contra...easy to do since what you're looking at is anti-Conservative blogs, and you're young enough not to have lived this history. The facts are...In 1986 it was revealed that a secret U.S. operation had been selling military equipment to Iran, in exchange for the release of U.S. hostages, and that money from the arms sales was being illegally diverted to help anti-socialist forces (called Contras) fight the government of Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. No drugs, no weapons bought from Iran (silly on the face of it) With that part of the argument aside, Lets take a look at the Al Qaeda/CIA connection. Charlie Wilson helped the CIA through Black Operations funding from the House appropriations Committee to fund Afghan Rebels against the Communist Soviets, starting in 1980. Later, Congress directly funded the rebels (Mujahideen) Funding both from the CIA & Congress 1979-1989. Bin Ladin formed AlQaeda in 1988, Osama broke away from Maktab al Khidamat, a group formed in 1984 after Osama left the Mujahideen. While the CIA supported the Mujahideen from 1979-1989, Bin Ladin funded his own group from his own family fortune. With all that said.....You are a little behind the times and need to get up to speed. Lets disregard all of the eye witnesses to both the twin towers plane crashes and the witnesses of the Pentagon hit....Lets forget about the 'evolving' 911 conspiracy.... (Ghost planes and Media video remakes) The latest 911 conspiracy is that Mini-Nukes were used by Israel after evacuating all of their people from both buildings. (total hokum).....but c'mon man gotta stay up with the times there guy. ROFLMAO WOW I love the info you bring in brother, It's like bringing an encyclopedia set to do a kindergarten debate! :lol: Keep up the good work my friend! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampa1000 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Delta....you really need to get yourself up to speed. The CIA has controlled Al-Qaeda since the days of the Mushahadin in Afghanistan when they were trying to get the Soviets out. Al-Qaeda is a US proxy...supported by the US to make you FEAR. Put down the GOP fascist propaganda handbook and find out the truth...because right now, you are propagating mis-information. You are spreading the same lies are government is spreading. 9/11 was an inside job. The plan had been made years before. The event was the culmination of a false flag operation designed to in till fear and hate in the American people so that they would willingly want to punish the muslims for their cowardly attack on a freedom loving people. The truth is that the Muslims were not to blame, it was the Bush Administration that orchestrated the attack to make it look like the Muslims had done it. The proof is in the many videos available of the collapsing buildings. In every video it is obvious that the buildings suffered what is called in the construction trades as a "controlled implosion" All three building that collapsed did so at free fall speed, directly in their footprint. This type of fall can only be achieved by the removal of the steel supports that were the key structural component of the buildings. The removal of the steel supports was done by the use of "thermite" This melts away the steel and blows it out of the way. Saddam Hussain was not responsible for the attack on the twin towers, yet we invaded Iraq because we were told he was responsible. Causing the death of untold hundreds of thousands of un-needed civilian casualties. You need to wake up DELTA and follow the money trail that leads to those that did actually profit from the Iraq war....The Banker Elite. You just mentioned in your post about your hero...Reagan and Oliver North...Good upstanding citizens huh? Think again, Reagan and North were responsible for drug smuggling in Los Angeles, California to be sold mostly to the black community, and the proceeds were used to buy weapons from Iran to support a band of Thugs in Central America...That's drug smuggling and gun running across international borders to support an agenda of the elite Banksters? This is all right in your book? You are not doing a service to the American people Delta by being the cheerleader for this type of behavior! You and people like you degrade our principles and good will. No wonder we are hated around the world! Carlos Carlos you are missing so much, I recommend you study why Oliver North and Reagan put themselves on the line and supported the freedom fighters!!! How soon you forget what at the time was the Soviet Union and their buildup of tanks and heavy arms into Nicaragua and that's who the freedom fighters were fighting!!! Do you know who was the president of Nicaragua was? Ortega, Castro of Cuba's best friend at the time. Their plan was to spread communism to all of Central America including Mexico at our border, the rest of South America would have been a cake walk once they were at the heart of the Americas. The democratic congress would not approve funds to fight this because their week way of thinking and Reagan had to do what ever it took to get the job done, I remember this like it was yesterday but you may have to look it up before you start preaching and get your facts right....You have so much more to learn and you think you know it all!!! Wake up and get it right!!! My family are from Central America and I know what I'm talking about, you don't! Reagan save Central and South America from what is now the Russians. Get it right amigo!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 ROFLMAO WOW I love the info you bring in brother, It's like bringing an encyclopedia set to do a kindergarten debate! :lol: Keep up the good work my friend! Thanks my friend ..... I forgot to add this Report Says FAA Got 52 Warnings Before 9/11 Associated Press Friday, February 11, 2005; Page A02 The Federal Aviation Administration received repeated warnings in the months before Sept. 11, 2001, that al Qaeda hoped to attack airlines, according to a previously undisclosed report by the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks. The report detailed 52 such warnings to FAA leaders between April 1 and Sept. 10, 2001, about the terrorist organization and its leader, Osama bin Laden. The commission report, written last August, said five security warnings mentioned al Qaeda's training for hijackings and two reports concerned suicide operations not connected to aviation. None of the warnings specified what would happen on Sept. 11. FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown said the agency received intelligence from other agencies, which it passed on to airlines and airports. But "we had no specific information about means or methods that would have enabled us to tailor any countermeasures," she said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Carlos you are missing so much, I recommend you study why Oliver North and Reagan put themselves on the line and supported the freedom fighters!!! How soon you forget what at the time was the Soviet Union and their buildup of tanks and heavy arms into Nicaragua and that's who the freedom fighters were fighting!!! Do you know who was the president of Nicaragua was? Ortega, Castro of Cuba's best friend at the time. Their plan was to spread communism to all of Central America including Mexico at our border, the rest of South America would have been a cake walk once they were at the heart of the Americas. The democratic congress would not approve funds to fight this because their week way of thinking and Reagan had to do what ever it took to get the job done, I remember this like it was yesterday but you may have to look it up before you start preaching and get your facts right....You have so much more to learn and you think you know it all!!! Wake up and get it right!!! My family are from Central America and I know what I'm talking about, you don't! Reagan save Central and South America from what is now the Russians. Get it right amigo!!!! Yep...absolutely right.... The Lib Congress in 1985, outlawed funding to the Contras in their fight against communist takeover, In the Intelligence Authorization Act of that year. The money came mostly through the State Dept soliciting Third Party Countries to fund the Contras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightfighter Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Carlos, Delta is prior military and would guess his rank at Lieutenant Colonel or greater before leaving. He has never disclosed to me, just my guess. That being said...its great that your passionate about your beliefs, but a little humbling would go along way. I mention Deltas' prior service because he knows what he's talking about. I agree with some of what you said, its just hard to defend because of your flippant nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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