ayrnay22 Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Well I guess they show some class because no one reports to the mods when the pro rver's are here bashing away but if the lopsters get a chance to post in the other forums they get banished to this forum or put on review that's what happens when people don't like hearing bad news guess one side will be right be it tommorow January or 5 or ten years from now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) Well I guess they show some class because no one reports to the mods when the pro rver's are here bashing away but if the lopsters get a chance to post in the other forums they get banished to this forum or put on review that's what happens when people don't like hearing bad news guess one side will be right be it tommorow January or 5 or ten years from now It's nice how you qualify smug self-satisfaction and arrogance as "class." It is my considered opinion that most LOPsters here are paid agents of disinformation. I cannot prove it, because such a thing is not provable. It makes absolutely no sense to be invested in a venture in which one truly does not believe. Edited July 21, 2012 by Sanssouci 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrnay22 Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I guess ur entitled to that opinion I don't find them smug but there u go proving my point with the bashing but u won't see anyone report u thanks for enlightening me on what class is with your unsmug response Maybe they are agents of disinformation but maybe they invested and later realized they made a mistake logic dictates the later but who knows maybe the gurus all work for the cbi and they just laugh at investors when they purchase more dinars 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) I guess ur entitled to that opinion I don't find them smug but there u go proving my point with the bashing but u won't see anyone report u thanks for enlightening me on what class is with your unsmug response Obviously, you don't know the definition of smug: Having or showing an excessive pride in oneself or one's achievements. It's an honest assessment. If you consider it bashing, perhaps it is a case of having difficulty with the truth. Maybe they are agents of disinformation but maybe they invested and later realized they made a mistake logic dictates the later but who knows maybe the gurus all work for the cbi and they just laugh at investors when they purchase more dinars If they are the latter, the normal human response would be to sell, get out, and never look back. The fact that they still hang around here, preaching their dubious gospel, suggests the former. I have purchased all the dinars that I care to hold. Personally, I don't appreciate the value of their "charitable" efforts. Edited July 21, 2012 by Sanssouci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkerBee Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 He is certainly on the fast track to sainthood. I wonder how many other unique screen names he utilizes in his paid trolling activity. Too funny Sans, that is exact how I view you! Weird huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrnay22 Posted July 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 I got a better one president bush and slick **** made the order to allow us citizens to invest in dinar because they are silent partners in the cbi and they know its worthless paper and they just laugh when u spend thousands on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) Too funny Sans, that is exact how I view you! Weird huh? Ah, Agent WorkerBee. Sanssouci and Sanssouci2 are not unique unto themselves. And I have explained on numerous occasions why I maintain two accounts. I got a better one president bush and slick **** made the order to allow us citizens to invest in dinar because they are silent partners in the cbi and they know its worthless paper and they just laugh when u spend thousands on it If that is true, and it is revealed, there will be a fresh jail cell waiting for them. Edited July 21, 2012 by Sanssouci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrnay22 Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 There's plenty of empty.cells for them on that charge if true and for the global elite once the mass arrests start and they all have to answer for there crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 There's plenty of empty.cells for them on that charge if true and for the global elite once the mass arrests start and they all have to answer for there crimes It may be sooner than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrnay22 Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) I know I believe the posts from srum lord dinar and hugh said it would happen in 45 days that was more than 60 days ago or what about the joint training in Colorado with Russia that was a covert mission to raid the rothchilds or ptb secret base under Denver international that came and went a month ago those conspiracy theory predictions are almost as accurate as the rv claims but the authors wouldn't be pumping those stories for egotistical purposes they are trying to save us from ourselves I'm sorry to wake up us sheeple Edited July 22, 2012 by ayrnay22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) I know I believe the posts from srum lord dinar and hugh said it would happen in 45 days that was more than 60 days ago or what about the joint training in Colorado with Russia that was a covert mission to raid the rothchilds or ptb secret base under Denver international that came and went a month ago those conspiracy theory predictions are almost as accurate as the rv claims but the authors wouldn't be pumping those stories for egotistical purposes they are trying to save us from ourselves You're getting off topic. What's hilarious is that those whose last wish in all the world is to be labeled the dreaded "conspiracy theorist" insist that because a person believes in one conspiracy theory, it is by default that that person believes in every conspiracy theory. Dinarck tried this tack with me, and made himself to look absolutely ridiculous. Edited July 22, 2012 by Sanssouci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 How many is "many?" How few is "few?" How soon is "soon?" Let's ask around here then what's the general perception of such words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Let's ask around here then what's the general perception of such words. "Soon" strikes me as a great stalling tactic. Just like "I wasn't sleeping. I was only resting my eyes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrnay22 Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I'm not trying any tack my apologies for not asking if u only believe in one conspiracy and what one it is and yes off topic so I guess u succeded if that's ur intention for being in this forum as of late ill take my own advice and just stick with the threads initial topic so others can respond and ignore you unless you want to discuss something other than rd vs rv I'm open for a good discussion check my old topics I had one about things that are morally exceptable that u might enjoy Let's ask around here then what's the general perception of such words. I always thought few was 3 or more but then where does many come in at 5,6,7,8, not sure on many I guess that's a matter of opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I'm not trying any tack my apologies for not asking if u only believe in one conspiracy and what one it is and yes off topic so I guess u succeded if that's ur intention for being in this forum as of late ill take my own advice and just stick with the threads initial topic so others can respond and ignore you unless you want to discuss something other than rd vs rv I'm open for a good discussion check my old topics I had one about things that are morally exceptable that u might enjoy I always thought few was 3 or more but then where does many come in at 5,6,7,8, not sure on many I guess that's a matter of opinion Well, "RD vs. RV" does get rather tiresome. My apologies for not realizing what gets LOPsters totally jazzed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrnay22 Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I guess when they can only post in the lop forum u don't.get to see what gets them jazzed maybe u should start a topic in the lop forum for non lop discussion never mind ill do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I guess when they can only post in the lop forum u don't.get to see what gets them jazzed maybe u should start a topic in the lop forum for non lop discussion never mind ill do it It must really suck to be marginalized this way. But, left to roam, they simply invade every other section with their negativity masquerading as "realism." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrnay22 Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 It must really suck to be marginalized this way. But, left to roam, they simply invade every other section with their negativity masquerading as "realism." I guess but I started the thread so maybe if they have an outlet in this lop forum they will let you know what gets them jazzed as u said but that's only if u genuinely want or care to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbertino Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Quote I will go wherever on the forum I please. End Quote Agreed.. That should be the basic rule of freedom of speech and movement ( in all Forum sections) for everybody including "lopsters" imho. The same way one can decide to read them or not right here, one can do so ( read them or not) anywhere else on Forum.. JMHO. Edited July 22, 2012 by umbertino 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Quote I will go wherever on the forum I please. End Quote Agreed.. That should be the basic rule of freedom of speech and movement ( in all Forum sections) for everybody including "lopsters" imho. The same way one can decide to read them or not right here, one can do so ( read them or not) anywhere else on Forum.. JMHO. Agreed. I really don't mind reading them, as dry and boring some of them can be. There is no other way to confront them when they are confined to this space. I guess but I started the thread so maybe if they have an outlet in this lop forum they will let you know what gets them jazzed as u said but that's only if u genuinely want or care to know Well, my point was that the only thing, or so it seems, that does get them jazzed is the so-called RD vs. RV "debate," which is rather monochromatic, if you ask me. Edited July 22, 2012 by Sanssouci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveD Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Yeah, I suppose you are right. I can't imagine them not allowing out-country exchange. I don't think I have ever heard of a country that redenominated allowing exchange outside of the country. There have been 100 or so redenominations, every one of them was an in country only exchange. Maybe when all the Euro countries went to the Euro... but they we all going to the same currency. Please find me a country that redenominatied and allowed exchnage outside the country. Iraq has already stated they will only exchange at banks in Iraq. I got a better one president bush and slick **** made the order to allow us citizens to invest in dinar because they are silent partners in the cbi and they know its worthless paper and they just laugh when u spend thousands on it No such order exist. Paid pumper lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanssouci Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) No such order exist. Paid pumper lies. Agent DaveD, are you alleging that Executive Order 13303 does not exist? DinarVets@LOP Talk: Home of the Whopper. Edited July 22, 2012 by Sanssouci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFrankD Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Agent DaveD, are you alleging that Executive Order 13303 does not exist? DinarVets@LOP Talk: Home of the Whopper. How much do you get paid for your pumping? Is it per hour or per post? Do all the dealers pay you, or is it just Tampa Dinar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realdinar Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Agent DaveD, are you alleging that Executive Order 13303 does not exist? DinarVets@LOP Talk: Home of the Whopper. Daved, you are fumbling the ball...dont be that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveD Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 This is EO 13303. The whole thing. Please show me where it says you can invest in dinar. Please show me where it even mentions dinar at all. Executive Order Executive Order Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has An Interest By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), section 5 of the United Nations Participation Act, as amended (22 U.S.C. 287c) (UNPA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that the threat of attachment or other judicial process against the Development Fund for Iraq, Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests therein, obstructs the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq. This situation constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat. I hereby order: Section 1. Unless licensed or otherwise authorized pursuant to this order, any attachment, judgment, decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other judicial process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and void, with respect to the following: (a) the Development Fund for Iraq, and ( all Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests therein, in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons. Sec. 2. (a) As of the effective date of this order, Executive Order 12722 of August 2, 1990, Executive Order 12724 of August 9, 1990, and Executive Order 13290 of March 20, 2003, shall not apply to the property and interests in property described in section 1 of this order. ( Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses or other forms of administrative action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290, or under the authority of IEEPA or the UNPA, except as hereafter terminated, modified, or suspended by the issuing Federal agency and except as provided in section 2(a) of this order. Sec. 3. For the purposes of this order: (a) The term "person" means an individual or entity; ( The term "entity" means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; © The term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any juris-diction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States; (d) The term "Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products" means any petroleum, petroleum products, or natural gas originating in Iraq, including any Iraqi-origin oil inventories, wherever located; and (e) The term "Development Fund for Iraq" means the fund established on or about May 22, 2003, on the books of the Central Bank of Iraq, by the Administrator of the Coalition Provisional Authority responsible for the temporary governance of Iraq and all accounts held for the fund or for the Central Bank of Iraq in the name of the fund. Sec. 4. (a) The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulga-tion of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA and the UNPA as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their statutory authority to carry out the provisions of this order. ( Nothing contained in this order shall relieve a person from any requirement to obtain a license or other authorization in compliance with applicable laws and regulations. Sec. 5. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit, or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by a party against the United States, its departments, agencies, entities, officers, employees, or agents, or any other person. Sec. 6. This order shall be transmitted to the Congress and published in the Federal Register. GEORGE W. BUSH THE WHITE HOUSE, May 22, 2003. It can simply be broken down to this. any attachment, judgment, decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other judicial process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and void, with respect to the following: (a) the Development Fund for Iraq, and ( all Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments It has nothing to do with investing. It simply blocked lawsuits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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