Popular Post delta22 Posted July 12, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 --- IN GOD WE TRUST GOD BLESS AMERICA Plato had it down... "One of the penalties of not participating in politics is that you will be governed by your inferiors." Plato Best explanation of what is happening in America that I have heard! Please pass this on, it may actually make folks think! CAN THE USA SURVIVE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING? The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff. The folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop, and the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting! Now... The people who are forcing the people to pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, and racist. So... The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and giving them the free stuff in the first place. We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff. Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason? The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them. Thomas Jefferson said it best: "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." The United States officially became a Democracy in 1776, 235 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that On Nov 6th, 2012. Failure to change that spells the end of the United States as we know it. ELECTION 2012 IS COMING A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves! I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!! Let's take a stand!!! Obama: Gone! Borders: Closed! Language: English only Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare! NO freebies to: Non-Citizens! We the people are coming 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinEagle Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Thank you Delta for posting this. It makes a lot of sense. I agree that there are too many people out there claiming the "right" to the free stuff, when they really shouldnt be getting anything at all. Of course, taking away for those that really need, and deserve, it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggman24 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 As much as i hate to say this, there is no good person running for president this year. After doing my research and checking into Mitts past, he is what is referred to as a corperate rader. He has made his living being the head of a company that buys businesses, rapes them of all there resources then leaves them bankrupt. Sure he makes a lot of money for the shareholders, but leaves the business in a shambles and they end up going out of business. Just google his name and check under Wikipedia. Its all in his bio. So that leaves us without a good canidit. I might be setting this election out. 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble101 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 The first free thing that needs to go is corp welfare. GE paid no income tax last two yrs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artg Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 oboma needs to go along with commiecare may be the lesser of 2 evils but at least romney isnt a marxist spread the word or pay dearly later on 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Swan Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 --- IN GOD WE TRUST GOD BLESS AMERICA Plato had it down... "One of the penalties of not participating in politics is that you will be governed by your inferiors." Plato Best explanation of what is happening in America that I have heard! Please pass this on, it may actually make folks think! CAN THE USA SURVIVE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING? The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff. The folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop, and the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting! Now... The people who are forcing the people to pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, and racist. So... The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and giving them the free stuff in the first place. We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff. Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason? The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them. Thomas Jefferson said it best: "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." The United States officially became a Democracy in 1776, 235 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that On Nov 6th, 2012. Failure to change that spells the end of the United States as we know it. ELECTION 2012 IS COMING A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves! I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!! Let's take a stand!!! Obama: Gone! Borders: Closed! Language: English only Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare! NO freebies to: Non-Citizens! We the people are coming Morning Loki, You really didn't expect to sneak this one past me, now did ya Big Guy? Where to begin? Obama: Gone!--Why? Is it because you think he is giving away the farm? I'll provide facts below that may make you rethink that. Borders: Closed! –Again, Why? Mexican laborers do work that whites won't or at least not for the same wage. Thus, keeping prices low for both agriculture an manufacturing companies. Also, with the baby boomers retiring in vast numbers shortly, who is going to provide the income tax to pay for it? Unless we build up our population, the elderly are only going to get 75% of the IOU’s Uncle Sam promised. Language: English only. Why? Pls don't go "Native" on me. If you do, then pls tell me which Native American tribe's language you speak. In every countries of the world, yes every, even our Northern Neighbors, people know at least 2 languages. Pls American grow up and learn something new...(need I mention America is about the only country that doesn't use the metric system-even our military know it ) in fact, they say learning another language will warn off dementia..so it will actually be good for you! Now them being required to learn our history...now you’re talking. Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! - Now THAT I agree with. Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare! - Totally agree with this one as well. NO freebies to: Non-Citizens! -Hmmm, how about limited? If a baby is born to non-citizens here in America and needs medical treatment, don't you think it is a Christian thing to do? Now back to Obama..as much as you want to blame Obama on America's current fiscal woes, I think you need to be baptized in a few more facts, Loki my dear. First, believe it or not, Obama isn't raising personal and business taxes, (except maybe on those who make over $250K a year). Both taxes, are at the lowest in 60 years. My research shows that there is little chance of congress approving such hikes and even if they did put taxes up, chances are it will still be less than what you were paying under Ronald Reagan or George Sr. See here: http://www.theincome...eagan-or-obama/ As far as Obama’s stimulus package that ballooned the deficit, of 9 major studies done on it, 6 stated that it had a positive impact, 3 found it to be mildly effective. http://www.washingto...hbibJ_blog.html While George W, stimulus was a total failure. http://answers.yahoo...17082835AAjz640 Also, the last president that had a balance budget was Slick Willie. http://www.factcheck...-under-clinton/ This next information is really going to hurt your political pride Loki, you may want to sit down. It seems Dwight Eisenhower was the LAST Republican President to preside over a balanced budget. He had a balanced budget in 1956 and 1957. Since then, there have been two presidents to preside over balanced budgets, LBJ in 1969 and Clinton in 1998 through 2001. During the last 40 years there have been five budget surpluses, all five were under Democratic Presidents: 1969, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001. Read more: http://wiki.answers....t#ixzz1wlXRX6D3 And it seems, that during the last 4 presidencies, 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats, both of almost equal length, only the Republicans have gotten us into major Wars. Infact, W has put us in two wars on terror that have cost us about $4 Trillion: http://en.wikipedia....of_the_Iraq_War While Obama has stopped one of those wars and by 2014, the other one will end. As far as social security, you googly bear are eligible to take it age 62, with full benefits. While, thanks to the baby boomers, someone my age will have to work at least till age 70 for the same level of benefits. But again, due to your generation social gluttony, even after working another 8 years, I’ll STILL only get 75% of what you qualify at age 62. http://www.guardian....are-running-out Again please show me any evidence that money Obama policies are “redistributing tax money to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying Americans (the so-called "less fortunate") comes from tax-paying families. Sounds nice until you actually try to prove it. Here is where you start: www.google.com And yes, I’m PO…they ran out of coffee and I’ve only had one cup. Just kidding Big Guy...you know your #1 in my book! With much love and affection, Tiff 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg888 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 This next information is really going to hurt your political pride Loki, you may want to sit down. It seems Dwight Eisenhower was the LAST Republican President to preside over a balanced budget. He had a balanced budget in 1956 and 1957. Since then, there have been two presidents to preside over balanced budgets, LBJ in 1969 and Clinton in 1998 through 2001. During the last 40 years there have been five budget surpluses, all five were under Democratic Presidents: 1969, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001. Read more: http://wiki.answers....t#ixzz1wlXRX6D3 And it seems, that during the last 4 presidencies, 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats, both of almost equal length, only the Republicans have gotten us into major Wars. Infact, W has put us in two wars on terror that have cost us about $4 Trillion: http://en.wikipedia....of_the_Iraq_War While Obama has stopped one of those wars and by 2014, the other one will end. And I thought that a republican was in office in2001..... Also, wasn't congress run by republicans during slick willie's tenure (98-00)? I believe that congress is in charge of setting budgets which can then be followed... Again, sadly lacking during this most recent admin... Finally, Obama didn't chose to end the war in Iraq, he simply followed plans set in place by the previous admin and the Iraqi gov. But nice try 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Swan Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 This next information is really going to hurt your political pride Loki, you may want to sit down. It seems Dwight Eisenhower was the LAST Republican President to preside over a balanced budget. He had a balanced budget in 1956 and 1957. Since then, there have been two presidents to preside over balanced budgets, LBJ in 1969 and Clinton in 1998 through 2001. During the last 40 years there have been five budget surpluses, all five were under Democratic Presidents: 1969, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001. Read more: http://wiki.answers....t#ixzz1wlXRX6D3 And it seems, that during the last 4 presidencies, 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats, both of almost equal length, only the Republicans have gotten us into major Wars. Infact, W has put us in two wars on terror that have cost us about $4 Trillion: http://en.wikipedia....of_the_Iraq_War While Obama has stopped one of those wars and by 2014, the other one will end. And I thought that a republican was in office in2001..... Also, wasn't congress run by republicans during slick willie's tenure (98-00)? I believe that congress is in charge of setting budgets which can then be followed... Again, sadly lacking during this most recent admin... Finally, Obama didn't chose to end the war in Iraq, he simply followed plans set in place by the previous admin and the Iraqi gov. But nice try A actually no, you are only partially right. The executive branch presents a budget TO Congress, and then Congress must come to an agreement on what that budget is. So the executive branch is the first one to present an outline in the budget process. So, which do you want to argue: 1. The President is the Cmd and Chief and the Buck stops with him OR 2. Congress controls the purse and is the real decision maker? Pls choose either one, but you have to chose, you can't have it both ways. Once you choice, then let's debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjon Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 The problem with literals isn't that they don't know anything but what they do know is not the truth. Ronald Reagan 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Swan Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 The problem with literals isn't that they don't know anything but what they do know is not the truth. Ronald Reagan Hmm...well...not sure what to say about this...but it seems about as relevant to the subject as this: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyTime Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 "One of the penalties of not participating in politics is that you will be governed by your inferiors." Plato Plato has it completely wrong! This would only be correct if YOU CONSENT to be governed! If you really think participating is the answer then just look around. Are you happy with how things are with government? That IS the result of participation of people. So if you are not happy with it then WHY would you participate in it? If you DON'T want to be governed then STOP participating in it! You can only be governed by it by volunteering to participate by your own free will of consenting to it! No participation with no consent you are free of it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGranny Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 As far as social security, you googly bear are eligible to take it age 62, with full benefits. While, thanks to the baby boomers, someone my age will have to work at least till age 70 for the same level of benefits. But again, due to your generation social gluttony, even after working another 8 years, I’ll STILL only get 75% of what you qualify at age 62. http://www.guardian....are-running-out WRONG! I am on Social Security and NO ONE gets full benefits at 62 and never has - I don't care where you got your information, it is WRONG. Full retirement age (also called "normal retirement age") had been 65 for many years. However, beginning with people born in 1938 or later, that age gradually increases until it reaches 67 for people born after 1959. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/ageincrease.htm Perhaps you need to check the Social Security Fact Sheet website http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/IncRetAge.html So, whoever you quoted your info from should check out the Social Security site itself. Unless you have been to the SS site and entered your information, there is no way you will know what your benefits are - you might also be interested in knowing that your benefits are determined by your highest income during a 10 year period. I doubt seriously that you have peaked in your salary or that you have 10 years of employment on which to base your estimated benefits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Swan Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) TXG...you are correct. Full bennies start at 65 or older, depending on one's date of birth. Pass the crow...on that one bit of my post..the rest stands as written. Respectfully, Tiff Edited July 13, 2012 by Black Swan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta22 Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Tiff sweetheart , I actually speak seven languages four of which I am fluent ( read ,write and spoken ) . Obama offends me on so many levels that if I had to pick one ,then I would go with Treason! I believe that not only should he be impeached but he and his beard michele and all the senators and congress people that knew of his crimes should be imprisoned for treason and other High Crimes and misdemeanors . I do love the way you try and debate though , you bring a well reasoned and researched argument to the topic and for that you will always have my respect and as for your right ( to be wrong ) I fought for that . No matter what kind of evidence you present ,I will always be convinced that obama is the worst thing that has ever happend to this country and the world. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r65 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Morning Loki, You really didn't expect to sneak this one past me, now did ya Big Guy? Where to begin? Obama: Gone!--Why? Is it because you think he is giving away the farm? I'll provide facts below that may make you rethink that. Borders: Closed! –Again, Why? Mexican laborers do work that whites won't or at least not for the same wage. Thus, keeping prices low for both agriculture an manufacturing companies. Also, with the baby boomers retiring in vast numbers shortly, who is going to provide the income tax to pay for it? Unless we build up our population, the elderly are only going to get 75% of the IOU’s Uncle Sam promised. Language: English only. Why? Pls don't go "Native" on me. If you do, then pls tell me which Native American tribe's language you speak. In every countries of the world, yes every, even our Northern Neighbors, people know at least 2 languages. Pls American grow up and learn something new...(need I mention America is about the only country that doesn't use the metric system-even our military know it ) in fact, they say learning another language will warn off dementia..so it will actually be good for you! Now them being required to learn our history...now you’re talking. Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! - Now THAT I agree with. Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare! - Totally agree with this one as well. NO freebies to: Non-Citizens! -Hmmm, how about limited? If a baby is born to non-citizens here in America and needs medical treatment, don't you think it is a Christian thing to do? Now back to Obama..as much as you want to blame Obama on America's current fiscal woes, I think you need to be baptized in a few more facts, Loki my dear. First, believe it or not, Obama isn't raising personal and business taxes, (except maybe on those who make over $250K a year). Both taxes, are at the lowest in 60 years. My research shows that there is little chance of congress approving such hikes and even if they did put taxes up, chances are it will still be less than what you were paying under Ronald Reagan or George Sr. See here: http://www.theincome...eagan-or-obama/ As far as Obama’s stimulus package that ballooned the deficit, of 9 major studies done on it, 6 stated that it had a positive impact, 3 found it to be mildly effective. http://www.washingto...hbibJ_blog.html While George W, stimulus was a total failure. http://answers.yahoo...17082835AAjz640 Also, the last president that had a balance budget was Slick Willie. http://www.factcheck...-under-clinton/ This next information is really going to hurt your political pride Loki, you may want to sit down. It seems Dwight Eisenhower was the LAST Republican President to preside over a balanced budget. He had a balanced budget in 1956 and 1957. Since then, there have been two presidents to preside over balanced budgets, LBJ in 1969 and Clinton in 1998 through 2001. During the last 40 years there have been five budget surpluses, all five were under Democratic Presidents: 1969, 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001. Read more: http://wiki.answers....t#ixzz1wlXRX6D3 And it seems, that during the last 4 presidencies, 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats, both of almost equal length, only the Republicans have gotten us into major Wars. Infact, W has put us in two wars on terror that have cost us about $4 Trillion: http://en.wikipedia....of_the_Iraq_War While Obama has stopped one of those wars and by 2014, the other one will end. As far as social security, you googly bear are eligible to take it age 62, with full benefits. While, thanks to the baby boomers, someone my age will have to work at least till age 70 for the same level of benefits. But again, due to your generation social gluttony, even after working another 8 years, I’ll STILL only get 75% of what you qualify at age 62. http://www.guardian....are-running-out Again please show me any evidence that money Obama policies are “redistributing tax money to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying Americans (the so-called "less fortunate") comes from tax-paying families. Sounds nice until you actually try to prove it. Here is where you start: www.google.com And yes, I’m PO…they ran out of coffee and I’ve only had one cup. Just kidding Big Guy...you know your #1 in my book! With much love and affection, Tiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stronglilly Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 I keep hearing it said that illegal immigrants are working jobs Americans won't....... well I know for a fact that they are taking jobs Americans want! In our area immigrants have jobs that our locals are applying for and can't get. Another solution..... all the welfare recipients who are not disabled, or elderly are required to take all the jobs the county, state, or US tax payer has to pay for such as, road side pick up, road repair, washing windows, etc etc.. All the jobs costing tax payers like mopping floors, taking out trash, etc in all federal and state buildings are done by welfare recipients until they are otherwise gainfully employed. If a farmer can't find workers let him call for some welfare recipients. Let them clean a few dozen commodes and maybe they will be encouraged to work. No work slip, no welfare, but throw in a voucher for a tank of gas or a bus to get them there, or assign one of the welfare recipients a bus to take them to work! I'd make a list of the jobs and have the computer assign them a job.... report or go hungry. And no more importing foreigners and giving them money, food stamps, free housing and etc. Do you realize there are homes values at hundreds of thousands of dollars that are being given to immigrants that Obama is inviting over here with promise of benefits and we the tax payers pay their way. Stop all foreign jobs and contracts on American soil. Give it to American companies. And stop selling our land to non citizens. Don't tell me that the list below does not say that they are costing more than they are contributing. Immigration is grand if they can prove they have money and support when they come until they can find legitimate work. Have them prove they are supporting themselves without welfare in 6 months or go home. 61 Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens and close our borders.... 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to legal and illegal aliens each year. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd 8 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Thats $1,035,000,000.00 a year! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. Federal male prisoner: $87,665 per prisoner/per year http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html 9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 10. The legal and illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html 11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: A Line in the Sand: Confronting the Threat at the Southwest Border http://www.house.gov/sites/members/tx10_mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf 12. The National Policy Institute "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf 13. $25 billion dollars in remittances is sent back to Mexico, as a result of exporting poverty and low skill labor into the United States. Mexican carries 25 to $45 billion dollars a year taken into Mexico as a result of the illicit drug trade into the United States. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/02/ldt.01.html 14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants in the United States". http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html 15. Every day 12 Americans are murdered by an illegal alien. Another 13 Americans are killed by uninsured drunk illegal aliens and 8 American Children are victims of a sex crime committed by an illegal alien each and every day! http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html 16. Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. Incarceration of criminal aliens cost an estimated $624 million to state prisons (1999) and $891 million to federal prisons (2002), according to the most recent available figure from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9 c 17. "Illegal Aliens and American Medicine". "Many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American Medicine fought and vanquished long ago, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue and Chagas disease." The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons http://www.jpands.org/jpands1001.htm 18. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Most Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (CDC): http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/hispanics/resources/factsheets/hispanic.htm 19. If enacted the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years - fully one-third of the current population of the United States. http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2006/05/Senate-Immigration-Bill-Would-Allow-100-Million-New-Legal-Immigrants-over-the-Next-Twenty-Years 20. In 2007, legal and illegal aliens cost the federal government more than $346 BILLION dollars and the U.S. taxpayers paid more than $ 9,000. for each immigrant in the country! http://www.esrresearch.com/Rubensteinreport.pdf 21. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States may be as high as 20 million people, more than double the official 9 million people estimated by the Census Bureau. 1/3/05 http://www.bearstearns.com/bscportal/pdfs/underground.pdf 22. Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S. - The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy." Leprosy is an airborne virus; it can also be spread by touching and coughing. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78621 23. Two-thirds of illegal aliens lack a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, into their legal status or heavy use of most social services. http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf 24. America Welcomes Illegal's Contagious Disease. http://www.rense.com/general64/ill.htm 25. Mexico is the 4th Richest Oil Nation in the World. www.latinamericanstudies.org/mexico/lopez-portillo.htm 26. The United Nations list Mexico as the number one center for the supply of young children to international pedophile organizations. http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/mexico.htm 27. An illegal alien parent receives welfare benefits on behalf of his or her U.S. citizen child. Regardless of the parents immigration status may receive welfare and other benefits. When such a child receives assistance, the aid also helps support the child’s family. SOURCE: Illegal Aliens Extent of Welfare Benefits, Page 1. http://www.gao..gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf 28. In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits were provided to household with an illegal alien parent. http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf 29. U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002, but paid $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion. It's reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/dec/06/20041206-102115-6766r/ 30. One illegal alien family, costs the U.S. taxpayers more than $32,000 in federal, state and local benefits each year. That same family contributes an average of $9,000 a year in taxes, resulting in a net tax burden of $22,449 each year. If the lower figure of 12 million illegal aliens is used for estimation purposes, the total tax burden translates to $2.2 trillion per year. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55135 31. Department of Justice, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Department of Homeland Security spent $20 million or more in 2008 to litigate deportation orders for illegal aliens. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/18/justice-department-fail-enforce-deportation-orders/ 32. In 2007, DHS apprehended nearly 961,000 foreign nationals. Nearly 89 percent were natives of Mexico. The leading countries of origin of those removed were Mexico. DHS removed 99,900 known criminal aliens from the United States." Immigration Enforcement Actions: 2007http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/enforcement_ar_07.pdf Or http://www.hsdl.org/hslog/?q=node/4572 33. Based on studies by the Pew Hispanic Center and the Heritage Foundation, households headed by less-educated illegal aliens use $40 billion more in public services each year than they pay in taxes. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/09/ldt.01.html 34. In 2008 report by the Department of Justice indicated that Mexican drug trafficking organizations now operate in 195 cities in the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.RES.72: Text of Legislation 35. In 2008 National Drug Threat Assessment by the Department of Justice identified drug organizations from Mexico as the greatest criminal threat to the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.RES.72: Text of Legislation 36. The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States. http://uscode.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001101----000-.html 37. Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2009 http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ois_ill_pe_2009.pdf 38. "The Pew Hispanic Center study from February 2009 found that even though Hispanics make up 13 percent of the adult population, they accounted for 40 percent of sentenced federal offenders in 2007." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/29/border-states-dealing-illegal-immigrant-crime-data-suggests/ 39. Amnesty Costs 70 Times More Than Enforcement, the cost of amnesty: $999 billion. The cost of attrition by enforcement: as little as $14 billion. Amnesty would cost up to 70 times as much as enforcing existing law. Source: The Heritage Foundation http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/amnesty-costs-10-times-more-than-enforcement.html 40. A collection of newspaper stories of crimes committed by illegal aliens gathered by a group of patriots. http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/549214-illegal-alien-crime-wave-thread-59.html 41. Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/azcosts2.pdf?docID=101 42. Phoenix, Az. has become the kidnapping capital of the United States, because of illegal immigration and human smuggling, according to the head of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association. http://www.kpho.com/news/16706369/detail.html 43. If current trends continue, the population of the United States will rise to 438 million in 2050, from 296 million in 2005, and 82% of the increase will be due to immigrants. The non-Hispanic white population will increase more slowly than other racial and ethnic groups; whites will become a minority (47%) by 2050. http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/85.pdf 44. In California, the cost of free medical care for illegal aliens forced 60 hospitals to close between 1993 and 2003. http://www.amren.com/features/hispanics/index.html 45. "For most lawmakers, DWI stands for “driving while intoxicated.” For Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), DWI stands for “driving while illegal. He also said, that illegal immigrants were intentionally causing car accidents along state freeways." http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/04/20/2010-04-20_john_mccain_illegal_immigrants_are_intentionall y_causing_car_accidents.html 46. Crossing of Border Threaten preserve, By Mary Jo Pitzl, The Arizona Republic, October 16, 2004 (On illegal alien crossing) "which imperils the habitat for the more than 300 species of animals and the nearly 400 plant types within the refuge." http://www.desertinvasion.us/articles/articles2004_july_dec.html 47. The twenty-four border counties along the line with Mexico are home to some of the largest undeclared garbage dumps in the United States. Millions of illegal aliens have left thousands of tons in trash behind scattered across the deserts and mountains of New Mexico, Texas, Arizona and California. http://www.examiner.com/x-17495-San-Diego-Immigration-Policy-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Illegal-Immigration-continues-Environment-loses 48. The illegal aliens are endangering both rare wildlife and plant species as well as the pristine lands of the southwestern United States with the thousands of vehicles and tons of garbage they abandon. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104158 49. Arizona Senate Bill 1070 - Read the Bill Online http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/sb1070_bill_text_2010 Senate Bill 1070 Fact Sheet http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/sb1070_fact_sheet_2010 50. If you hire illegal aliens you could be charged with, conspiring to defraud the United States, harboring illegal aliens for profit, and evading payment of federal employment taxes. Failing to collect and pay federal income, Social Security, Medicare, and federal employment taxes on the wages paid to its workforce. You will criminally abuse our immigration system and our tax laws for the purpose of financial gain. For more info, visit US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. To report suspicious activity, call 1-866-347-2423. http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/articles/071107grandrapids.htm 51. Drug-resistant tuberculosis was introduced to the United States in 1993. The disease was more likely to be in persons who were foreign born. TB presents a global threat and a challenge to TB-control activities in the United States. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5611a3.htm 52. In their opinion "Roconquista" is a movement to reclaim land, Ron Gochez a Reconquista activist and Santee High School teacher in California explains it perfectly. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iybaDyMr1rs 53. A National Highway Traffic Safety Administration study found that Hispanics, particularly recent immigrants, are often distrustful of police and government agencies http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20060622/NEWS/606220415 54. "Estimate for Deporting Illegal Immigrants: $94 Billion", the number was arrived at by multiplying 12 million illegal aliens by the average cost of detaining people for a day: $97. That was multiplied by detention time: 32 days. They also added transportation cost of $ 1,000. per person. http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/estimate-for-deporting-illegal-immigrants-94-billion/?hp OR http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/deportation.cost/index.html 55. It cost $5.8 billion for years 2001 - 2004 to incarcerate criminal aliens this was a 15 % increase, most inmates were from Mexico. The percentage of all federal prisoners who are criminal aliens has remained the same over the last 3 years—about 27 percent. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf 56. A study of 55,322 illegal aliens, found: They were arrested a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. 12 % were arrested for violent offenses such as murder, robbery, assault, and sex-related crimes. 80% of all arrests occurred in three states--California, Texas, and Arizona. http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05646r.html 57. Listen to the Senators on the Senate floor. You can do other things on your computer while you're listening. On C-Span2 at C-Span.org OR http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx 58. In their opinion, in recent days the illegal aliens have marched carrying their protest signs, here are a few. You'll begin to see their logic and what they think about America. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-anti-arizona-protest-signs 59. Mexican drug smugglers tied to California wild fire. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE57G4SB20090818?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNew s&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campai gn=Feed%253A+reuters%252FtopNews+%2528News+%252F+U S+%252F+Top+News%2529 60. A report shows that 75% of illegal aliens have less than a 6th grade education. Over 71% have children. 30% admit of using forged social security cards, and half of them have done so, for more than 5 years. http://www.thesocialcontract.com/pdf/three-one/sandiego.pdf 61. “1 illegal arrested, 3 sought in beheading in Chandler, Arizona” The Arizona Republic Newspaper, 10/12/10 http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/10/12/20101012beheaded1012.html ----- that is about $1,740,000,000.00 per year estimated cost years ago..that is well over half the debt of social security for a year. We could actually get social security out of trouble by closing the borders? Now I would say over a trillion dollars a year is NOT healthy for this nation ....CLOSE OUR BORDERS! This would help with the suffering school system, the crime rate, the over burdened welfare system, the housing problems. American citizens are suffering badly from lose of jobs, natural disasters, economy, BIG GOVERNMENT, etc etc. Can we really afford to spend a trillion a year to fill a few jobs a few Americans don't want to work? When I was growing up.... and things were better "I wonder why?, less illegals, less government, less regulations, less czars, less employees helping the president and his wife, IIn their opinion, what other laws are illegal aliens violating? Tax laws, Environmental laws, vagrancy laws, animal cruelty, poaching, squatting... Everyone put your Beanie Caps on tight it's going to be a bumpy ride! In their opinion , illegal aliens in America are guilty of bio-terrorism, agro-terrorism, fraud, tax evasion, murder, identity theft, larceny, rape, gang bangers, vagrants, diseased, violence, pedophiles, pyromaniacs, auto theft, drunk drivers, kidnapping, saboteurs, and their an exception to the rules. How Much More Can We Stand? In their opinion, I think we Americans need to form organizations nationwide and advertise Free Safe Passage and $100.00 on air conditioned buses, for any illegal alien that wants to return to their country of origin. "A-Free-Get-Out-Town-Free-Card, so, to speak. ---- Contact Elected Officials: And give them a piece of your mind. http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml TELL THEM TO SECURE OUR PORTS & BORDERS, ASAP! TOLL FREE NUMBERS: Capital Switch Board: 1 (866) 220-0044 1 (800) 862-5530 1 (877) 851-6437 US Congressional Switch Board 1 (800) 833-6354 1 (866) 340-9281 1 (877) 762-8762 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Swan Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 I keep hearing it said that illegal immigrants are working jobs Americans won't....... well I know for a fact that they are taking jobs Americans want! In our area immigrants have jobs that our locals are applying for and can't get. Another solution..... all the welfare recipients who are not disabled, or elderly are required to take all the jobs the county, state, or US tax payer has to pay for such as, road side pick up, road repair, washing windows, etc etc.. All the jobs costing tax payers like mopping floors, taking out trash, etc in all federal and state buildings are done by welfare recipients until they are otherwise gainfully employed. If a farmer can't find workers let him call for some welfare recipients. Let them clean a few dozen commodes and maybe they will be encouraged to work. No work slip, no welfare, but throw in a voucher for a tank of gas or a bus to get them there, or assign one of the welfare recipients a bus to take them to work! I'd make a list of the jobs and have the computer assign them a job.... report or go hungry. And no more importing foreigners and giving them money, food stamps, free housing and etc. Do you realize there are homes values at hundreds of thousands of dollars that are being given to immigrants that Obama is inviting over here with promise of benefits and we the tax payers pay their way. Stop all foreign jobs and contracts on American soil. Give it to American companies. And stop selling our land to non citizens. Don't tell me that the list below does not say that they are costing more than they are contributing. Immigration is grand if they can prove they have money and support when they come until they can find legitimate work. Have them prove they are supporting themselves without welfare in 6 months or go home. 61 Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens and close our borders.... 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to legal and illegal aliens each year. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters7fd 8 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. Thats $1,035,000,000.00 a year! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. Federal male prisoner: $87,665 per prisoner/per year http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html 9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 10. The legal and illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html 11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: A Line in the Sand: Confronting the Threat at the Southwest Border http://www.house.gov/sites/members/tx10_mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf 12. The National Policy Institute "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf 13. $25 billion dollars in remittances is sent back to Mexico, as a result of exporting poverty and low skill labor into the United States. Mexican carries 25 to $45 billion dollars a year taken into Mexico as a result of the illicit drug trade into the United States. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0903/02/ldt.01.html 14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants in the United States". http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html 15. Every day 12 Americans are murdered by an illegal alien. Another 13 Americans are killed by uninsured drunk illegal aliens and 8 American Children are victims of a sex crime committed by an illegal alien each and every day! http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html 16. Today, criminal aliens account for over 29 percent of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities and a higher share of all federal prison inmates. These prisoners represent the fastest growing segment of the federal prison population. Incarceration of criminal aliens cost an estimated $624 million to state prisons (1999) and $891 million to federal prisons (2002), according to the most recent available figure from the Bureau of Justice Statistics. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters0b9 c 17. "Illegal Aliens and American Medicine". "Many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American Medicine fought and vanquished long ago, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue and Chagas disease." The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons http://www.jpands.org/jpands1001.htm 18. In 2002, HIV/AIDS was the third leading cause of death among Hispanic men aged 35 to 44 and the fourth leading cause of death among Hispanic women in the same age group. Most Hispanic men were exposed to HIV through sexual contact with other men. Source (CDC): http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/hispanics/resources/factsheets/hispanic.htm 19. If enacted the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act (CIRA, S. 2611) would be the most dramatic change in immigration law in 80 years, allowing an estimated 103 million persons to legally immigrate to the U.S. over the next 20 years - fully one-third of the current population of the United States. http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2006/05/Senate-Immigration-Bill-Would-Allow-100-Million-New-Legal-Immigrants-over-the-Next-Twenty-Years 20. In 2007, legal and illegal aliens cost the federal government more than $346 BILLION dollars and the U.S. taxpayers paid more than $ 9,000. for each immigrant in the country! http://www.esrresearch.com/Rubensteinreport.pdf 21. The number of illegal immigrants in the United States may be as high as 20 million people, more than double the official 9 million people estimated by the Census Bureau. 1/3/05 http://www.bearstearns.com/bscportal/pdfs/underground.pdf 22. Cases of Leprosy on The Rise In The U.S. - The New York Times. "While there were some 900 recorded cases in the United States 40 years ago, today more than 7,000 people have leprosy." Leprosy is an airborne virus; it can also be spread by touching and coughing. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=78621 23. Two-thirds of illegal aliens lack a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, into their legal status or heavy use of most social services. http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf 24. America Welcomes Illegal's Contagious Disease. http://www.rense.com/general64/ill.htm 25. Mexico is the 4th Richest Oil Nation in the World. www.latinamericanstudies.org/mexico/lopez-portillo.htm 26. The United Nations list Mexico as the number one center for the supply of young children to international pedophile organizations. http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/mexico.htm 27. An illegal alien parent receives welfare benefits on behalf of his or her U.S. citizen child. Regardless of the parents immigration status may receive welfare and other benefits. When such a child receives assistance, the aid also helps support the child’s family. SOURCE: Illegal Aliens Extent of Welfare Benefits, Page 1. http://www.gao..gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf 28. In fiscal year 1995, about $1.1 billion in AFDC and Food Stamp benefits were provided to household with an illegal alien parent. http://www.gao.gov/archive/1998/he98030.pdf 29. U.S. households headed by illegal aliens used $26.3 billion in government services during 2002, but paid $16 billion in taxes, an annual cost to taxpayers of $10 billion. It's reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/dec/06/20041206-102115-6766r/ 30. One illegal alien family, costs the U.S. taxpayers more than $32,000 in federal, state and local benefits each year. That same family contributes an average of $9,000 a year in taxes, resulting in a net tax burden of $22,449 each year. If the lower figure of 12 million illegal aliens is used for estimation purposes, the total tax burden translates to $2.2 trillion per year. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55135 31. Department of Justice, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Department of Homeland Security spent $20 million or more in 2008 to litigate deportation orders for illegal aliens. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/18/justice-department-fail-enforce-deportation-orders/ 32. In 2007, DHS apprehended nearly 961,000 foreign nationals. Nearly 89 percent were natives of Mexico. The leading countries of origin of those removed were Mexico. DHS removed 99,900 known criminal aliens from the United States." Immigration Enforcement Actions: 2007http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/enforcement_ar_07.pdf Or http://www.hsdl.org/hslog/?q=node/4572 33. Based on studies by the Pew Hispanic Center and the Heritage Foundation, households headed by less-educated illegal aliens use $40 billion more in public services each year than they pay in taxes. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/09/ldt.01.html 34. In 2008 report by the Department of Justice indicated that Mexican drug trafficking organizations now operate in 195 cities in the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.RES.72: Text of Legislation 35. In 2008 National Drug Threat Assessment by the Department of Justice identified drug organizations from Mexico as the greatest criminal threat to the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.RES.72: Text of Legislation 36. The term “alien” means any person not a citizen or national of the United States. http://uscode.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001101----000-.html 37. Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2009 http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ois_ill_pe_2009.pdf 38. "The Pew Hispanic Center study from February 2009 found that even though Hispanics make up 13 percent of the adult population, they accounted for 40 percent of sentenced federal offenders in 2007." http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/29/border-states-dealing-illegal-immigrant-crime-data-suggests/ 39. Amnesty Costs 70 Times More Than Enforcement, the cost of amnesty: $999 billion. The cost of attrition by enforcement: as little as $14 billion. Amnesty would cost up to 70 times as much as enforcing existing law. Source: The Heritage Foundation http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/amnesty-costs-10-times-more-than-enforcement.html 40. A collection of newspaper stories of crimes committed by illegal aliens gathered by a group of patriots. http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/549214-illegal-alien-crime-wave-thread-59.html 41. Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/azcosts2.pdf?docID=101 42. Phoenix, Az. has become the kidnapping capital of the United States, because of illegal immigration and human smuggling, according to the head of the Phoenix Law Enforcement Association. http://www.kpho.com/news/16706369/detail.html 43. If current trends continue, the population of the United States will rise to 438 million in 2050, from 296 million in 2005, and 82% of the increase will be due to immigrants. The non-Hispanic white population will increase more slowly than other racial and ethnic groups; whites will become a minority (47%) by 2050. http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/85.pdf 44. In California, the cost of free medical care for illegal aliens forced 60 hospitals to close between 1993 and 2003. http://www.amren.com/features/hispanics/index.html 45. "For most lawmakers, DWI stands for “driving while intoxicated.” For Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), DWI stands for “driving while illegal. He also said, that illegal immigrants were intentionally causing car accidents along state freeways." http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/04/20/2010-04-20_john_mccain_illegal_immigrants_are_intentionall y_causing_car_accidents.html 46. Crossing of Border Threaten preserve, By Mary Jo Pitzl, The Arizona Republic, October 16, 2004 (On illegal alien crossing) "which imperils the habitat for the more than 300 species of animals and the nearly 400 plant types within the refuge." http://www.desertinvasion.us/articles/articles2004_july_dec.html 47. The twenty-four border counties along the line with Mexico are home to some of the largest undeclared garbage dumps in the United States. Millions of illegal aliens have left thousands of tons in trash behind scattered across the deserts and mountains of New Mexico, Texas, Arizona and California. http://www.examiner.com/x-17495-San-Diego-Immigration-Policy-Examiner~y2009m9d8-Illegal-Immigration-continues-Environment-loses 48. The illegal aliens are endangering both rare wildlife and plant species as well as the pristine lands of the southwestern United States with the thousands of vehicles and tons of garbage they abandon. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104158 49. Arizona Senate Bill 1070 - Read the Bill Online http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/sb1070_bill_text_2010 Senate Bill 1070 Fact Sheet http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/sb1070_fact_sheet_2010 50. If you hire illegal aliens you could be charged with, conspiring to defraud the United States, harboring illegal aliens for profit, and evading payment of federal employment taxes. Failing to collect and pay federal income, Social Security, Medicare, and federal employment taxes on the wages paid to its workforce. You will criminally abuse our immigration system and our tax laws for the purpose of financial gain. For more info, visit US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. To report suspicious activity, call 1-866-347-2423. http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/articles/071107grandrapids.htm 51. Drug-resistant tuberculosis was introduced to the United States in 1993. The disease was more likely to be in persons who were foreign born. TB presents a global threat and a challenge to TB-control activities in the United States. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5611a3.htm 52. In their opinion "Roconquista" is a movement to reclaim land, Ron Gochez a Reconquista activist and Santee High School teacher in California explains it perfectly. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iybaDyMr1rs 53. A National Highway Traffic Safety Administration study found that Hispanics, particularly recent immigrants, are often distrustful of police and government agencies http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20060622/NEWS/606220415 54. "Estimate for Deporting Illegal Immigrants: $94 Billion", the number was arrived at by multiplying 12 million illegal aliens by the average cost of detaining people for a day: $97. That was multiplied by detention time: 32 days. They also added transportation cost of $ 1,000. per person. http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/estimate-for-deporting-illegal-immigrants-94-billion/?hp OR http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/deportation.cost/index.html 55. It cost $5.8 billion for years 2001 - 2004 to incarcerate criminal aliens this was a 15 % increase, most inmates were from Mexico. The percentage of all federal prisoners who are criminal aliens has remained the same over the last 3 years—about 27 percent. http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf 56. A study of 55,322 illegal aliens, found: They were arrested a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. 12 % were arrested for violent offenses such as murder, robbery, assault, and sex-related crimes. 80% of all arrests occurred in three states--California, Texas, and Arizona. http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05646r.html 57. Listen to the Senators on the Senate floor. You can do other things on your computer while you're listening. On C-Span2 at C-Span.org OR http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx 58. In their opinion, in recent days the illegal aliens have marched carrying their protest signs, here are a few. You'll begin to see their logic and what they think about America. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-anti-arizona-protest-signs 59. Mexican drug smugglers tied to California wild fire. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE57G4SB20090818?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNew s&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campai gn=Feed%253A+reuters%252FtopNews+%2528News+%252F+U S+%252F+Top+News%2529 60. A report shows that 75% of illegal aliens have less than a 6th grade education. Over 71% have children. 30% admit of using forged social security cards, and half of them have done so, for more than 5 years. http://www.thesocialcontract.com/pdf/three-one/sandiego.pdf 61. “1 illegal arrested, 3 sought in beheading in Chandler, Arizona” The Arizona Republic Newspaper, 10/12/10 http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/10/12/20101012beheaded1012.html ----- that is about $1,740,000,000.00 per year estimated cost years ago..that is well over half the debt of social security for a year. We could actually get social security out of trouble by closing the borders? Now I would say over a trillion dollars a year is NOT healthy for this nation ....CLOSE OUR BORDERS! This would help with the suffering school system, the crime rate, the over burdened welfare system, the housing problems. American citizens are suffering badly from lose of jobs, natural disasters, economy, BIG GOVERNMENT, etc etc. Can we really afford to spend a trillion a year to fill a few jobs a few Americans don't want to work? When I was growing up.... and things were better "I wonder why?, less illegals, less government, less regulations, less czars, less employees helping the president and his wife, IIn their opinion, what other laws are illegal aliens violating? Tax laws, Environmental laws, vagrancy laws, animal cruelty, poaching, squatting... Everyone put your Beanie Caps on tight it's going to be a bumpy ride! In their opinion , illegal aliens in America are guilty of bio-terrorism, agro-terrorism, fraud, tax evasion, murder, identity theft, larceny, rape, gang bangers, vagrants, diseased, violence, pedophiles, pyromaniacs, auto theft, drunk drivers, kidnapping, saboteurs, and their an exception to the rules. How Much More Can We Stand? In their opinion, I think we Americans need to form organizations nationwide and advertise Free Safe Passage and $100.00 on air conditioned buses, for any illegal alien that wants to return to their country of origin. "A-Free-Get-Out-Town-Free-Card, so, to speak. ---- Contact Elected Officials: And give them a piece of your mind. http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml TELL THEM TO SECURE OUR PORTS & BORDERS, ASAP! TOLL FREE NUMBERS: Capital Switch Board: 1 (866) 220-0044 1 (800) 862-5530 1 (877) 851-6437 US Congressional Switch Board 1 (800) 833-6354 1 (866) 340-9281 1 (877) 762-8762 Stronglilly...those are incredible numbers indeed..Mind boggling.. Well..that is until one does the math and looks a little closer.. There were a lot of apples and oranges mixed together, let alone double accounting like #8 looks like 1 & 2. There were also a lot of Hodge podge sites as well, that didn't have any numbers attached to them. To me, it kind of resembled a shot gun approach...cut and paste anything negative that one finds on google and hit them with both barrels. Regardless, my back of the napkin total is about $112B. Now according to this site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_national_product, America GDP amounts to about $15T a year. So $112B/$15T and you are talking about only 3/4 of 1% of our gross national product is spent on illegal aliens. If you want to use taxes collected, which is $2.3 T, then that would bounce it up to 4.8% spent on illegals. Just for the record...I never said illegal immigrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitealwedrop Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 --- IN GOD WE TRUST GOD BLESS AMERICA Plato had it down... "One of the penalties of not participating in politics is that you will be governed by your inferiors." Plato Best explanation of what is happening in America that I have heard! Please pass this on, it may actually make folks think! CAN THE USA SURVIVE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING? The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff. The folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop, and the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting! Now... The people who are forcing the people to pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, and racist. So... The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and giving them the free stuff in the first place. We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff. Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason? The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them. Thomas Jefferson said it best: "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." The United States officially became a Democracy in 1776, 235 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that On Nov 6th, 2012. Failure to change that spells the end of the United States as we know it. ELECTION 2012 IS COMING A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves! I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!! Let's take a stand!!! Obama: Gone! Borders: Closed! Language: English only Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights! Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare! NO freebies to: Non-Citizens! We the people are coming Thanks for your post Delta. I agree with you completely. I work with roughly 120 Immigrants and a few illegal aliens. I often have to complete paper work for free heath care and housing assistance for said immigrants. It pisses me off. The immigrants expect a free ride in our country and are getting it. Close the boarders. The Asian's are the worst offenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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