"It's not a lop, not a lop. Wait... SMOKESCREEN!"

[Sanssouci]

Sans... I see you use the "Hegelian" adjective often... Did you like his (Hegel) philosophy at all? Also... Did you also study / read Martin .Heidegger ? Did you like his philosophy? Just curious, if I may... I had to study both in school... That was eons ago and don't remember much. I recall some of Leibniz and Fichte because the Professor "interrogated" me ( that's the term used here in italian schools for oral examination) on them.

No, I first encountered the Hegelian dialectic in my investigations of Judaism and Kabbalah. And no, I don't like it, because it has given rise to much that is very deceiving. While I do not know much about Heidegger, I am aware of his affiliation with National Socialism. Having said that, there are things about National Socialism and Adolf Hitler that I am still trying to figure out. By the way, I look with disdain upon most neologisms, and prefer to call it what the National Socialists themselves called it. I do not call it "Nazism."

Leibniz and Fichte are also two that I would need to investigate before commenting, although I do know that Fichte is viewed as a precursor or bridge to the ideas of Hegel. I tend to dismiss many Renaissance period philosophers, however, like Pico della Mirandola, because of their attempts to combine Kabbalah and Christianity, itself a type of "proto-Hegelian" move, I believe. "Jews" today, like Dr. Laura Schlessinger, have picked up on the Hegelian dialectic, recognizing within Gentile philosophy the emergence of ideas formulated centuries earlier in the Kabbalah.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Sanssouci

[umbertino]

No, I first encountered the Hegelian dialectic in my investigations of Judaism and Kabbalah. And no, I don't like it, because it has given rise to much that is very deceiving. While I do not know much about Heidegger, I am aware of his affiliation with National Socialism. Having said that, there are things about National Socialism and Adolf Hitler that I am still trying to figure out. By the way, I look with disdain upon most neologisms, and prefer to call it what the National Socialists themselves called it. I do not call it "Nazism."

Leibniz and Fichte are also two that I would need to investigate before commenting, although I do know that Fichte is viewed as a precursor or bridge to the ideas of Hegel. I tend to dismiss many Renaissance period philosophers, however, like Pico della Mirandola, because of their attempts to combine Kabbalah and Christianity, itself a type of "proto-Hegelian" move, I believe. "Jews" today, like Dr. Laura Schlessinger, have picked up on the Hegelian dialectic, recognizing within Gentile philosophy the emergence of ideas formulated centuries earlier in the Kabbalah.

Thanks.

[Sanssouci]

How sweet it is.....

I have a pre "bucket list" list....one thing is to learn how to fly fish so I can spend many days tossin' a fly into the water and right after that, getting friendly with a few Zionist global elites coudn't hurt

Enjoy your trip.

Hey, it was Dinarck who started throwing around that Zionist Global Elites term, not me.

[dinarck]

Unabomber = CIA mind control. If you don't like it, get it moved to Off Topics.

Haha...everyone is under mind control don't ya know? Well except you. Your tinfoil hat has protected you nicely from the CIA.

[Sanssouci]

Haha...everyone is under mind control don't ya know? Well except you. Your tinfoil hat has protected you nicely from the CIA.

More shopworn cliche from Dinarck. Obviously, he's incapable of a truly original thought. And he calls me brainwashed.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Sanssouci

[Realdinar]

How sweet it is.....

I have a pre "bucket list" list....one thing is to learn how to fly fish so I can spend many days tossin' a fly into the water and right after that, getting friendly with a few Zionist global elites coudn't hurt

Enjoy your trip.

Im sure after the rv, youll be able to fly fish...

More shopworn cliche from Dinarck. Obviously, he's incapable of a truly original thought. And he calls me brainwashed.

He really just used the tinfoil hat joke? Im really starting to feel bad for the guy....

[Sanssouci]

He really just used the tinfoil hat joke? Im really starting to feel bad for the guy....

A sure sign he has run out of material.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Sanssouci

[Realdinar]

A sure sign he has run out of material.

Yeah, my guess is the fab 5 will need to call a meeting to scramble for better material. Maybe they can consult Chaz sheen....

Edited July 12, 2012 by Realdinar

[Sanssouci]

Yeah, my guess is the fab 5 will need to call a meeting to scramble for better material. Maybe they can consult Chaz sheen....

It's interesting that you mention Charlie. I was just talking to my brother about CIA mind control of celebrities, and he pointed out that we often see certain celebrities going through what appear to be episodes of mental instability. Britney Spears went through one as well. He said that this is a case of the celebrity attempting to rebel against the mind control. Often too we see them being admitted to Cedars Sinal Hospital or some other rehab facility, where we presume they then undergo reprogramming. And you see it at least in those two cases, Sheen and Spears. Charlie Sheen is now back on a television comedy series, making Fiat commercials, and we hear nothing more of his 9-11 Truth past. And Spears? Well, she's making records again, appearing on "America's Got Talent," and everything's back to "normal." Weird.

Edited July 12, 2012 by Sanssouci

[dinarck]

It's interesting that you mention Charlie. I was just talking to my brother about CIA mind control of celebrities, and he pointed out that we often see certain celebrities going through what appear to be episodes of mental instability. Britney Spears went through one as well. He said that this is a case of the celebrity attempting to rebel against the mind control. Often too we see them being admitted to Cedars Sinal Hospital or some other rehab facility, where we presume they then undergo reprogramming. And you see it at least in those two cases, Sheen and Spears. Charlie Sheen is now back on a television comedy series, making Fiat commercials, and we hear nothing more of his 9-11 Truth past. And Spears? Well, she's making records again, appearing on "America's Got Talent," and everything's back to "normal." Weird.

Do you people even see the delusion being posted here. Mind control of celebrities? How about cocaine and ecstasy binges for days on end. O no. That can't be it. That's what they want you to think right sackapooey? Haha....you are total joke.

[DaveD]

It's interesting that you mention Charlie. I was just talking to my brother about CIA mind control of celebrities, and he pointed out that we often see certain celebrities going through what appear to be episodes of mental instability. Britney Spears went through one as well. He said that this is a case of the celebrity attempting to rebel against the mind control. Often too we see them being admitted to Cedars Sinal Hospital or some other rehab facility, where we presume they then undergo reprogramming. And you see it at least in those two cases, Sheen and Spears. Charlie Sheen is now back on a television comedy series, making Fiat commercials, and we hear nothing more of his 9-11 Truth past. And Spears? Well, she's making records again, appearing on "America's Got Talent," and everything's back to "normal." Weird.

WOW!

Simply wow. Your post are making more sense now.

Speaking of total nut jobs.

Have you seen that latest Not-So-Breit bs claim posted upstairs. That Iraq can’t lop because they got an IMF loan.

What an absolute moron.

A professor of economics at a major University did a study of all lops and this is one of the things she found.

Hypothesis 2: Redenomination is more likely following a period of high inflation and a subsequent stabilization. A dramatic downward movement in inflation increases the probability of a redenomination. This is particularly likely in countries that are more open to international capital flows, that are under an IMF adjustment program, and that have politically independent central banks.

Amazing that people still follow that clown.

[dinarck]

WOW!

Simply wow. Your post are making more sense now.

Speaking of total nut jobs.

Have you seen that latest Not-So-Breit bs claim posted upstairs. That Iraq can’t lop because they got an IMF loan.

What an absolute moron.

A professor of economics at a major University did a study of all lops and this is one of the things she found.

Hypothesis 2: Redenomination is more likely following a period of high inflation and a subsequent stabilization. A dramatic downward movement in inflation increases the probability of a redenomination. This is particularly likely in countries that are more open to international capital flows, that are under an IMF adjustment program, and that have politically independent central banks.

Amazing that people still follow that clown.

Funniest thing is all the RVers who keep poking in here to defend him because they don't like my stance on the "RV". Totally typical and comical.

[cheevo]

World Bank..... Helen Maria confirmed the Special Representative of the World Bank, "The strategic relationship with Iraq will be extended from 2012 until the year 2016." Indicating that "this strategy is not only in Iraq but in several countries." Said Helen during her visit to Muthanna province today, "There are agreements and negotiations with the central government to identify the joints and the details of this strategy." Noting that "the World Bank will consider the special nature of this country in order to identify important points about this strategy." Afterthought, "but in general." She added that "this strategy will emphasize topics the development of macro-economic growth and development as well as issues relating to capacity-building and transparency and the fight against corruption and other ways to promote a strong economy for this country." Noting that "the Bank is trying to help create an environment that provides job opportunities and eliminate unemployment and a focus on the youth. "noting that" many young people are eligible to enter the Iraqi market. " Revealed Helen that "there is a plan to restructure the Rafidain and Rasheed to contribute to the creation of financial and banking sector better in Iraq contributes to the promotion of investment and provide an ideal environment." Afterthought "should there be a banking sector active in Iraq, but we Ntanaj to cooperation by the party return. " On the issue of deletion of zeros from the currency "I think that this may have been in Turkey and will not have any effect, either positive or negative.", Adding: "But if what has been implemented correctly and I mean here properly is to keep the same purchasing power of the currency after deletion of zeros if there was a thousand dinars, and after deletion of zeros has become a must for this dinars dinar to have the same purchasing power of one thousand dinars. "/ 4 Updating :: 17/05/2012 12:24

[sandyf]

World Bank..... Helen Maria confirmed the Special Representative of the World Bank, "The strategic relationship with Iraq will be extended from 2012 until the year 2016." Indicating that "this strategy is not only in Iraq but in several countries." Said Helen during her visit to Muthanna province today, "There are agreements and negotiations with the central government to identify the joints and the details of this strategy." Noting that "the World Bank will consider the special nature of this country in order to identify important points about this strategy." Afterthought, "but in general." She added that "this strategy will emphasize topics the development of macro-economic growth and development as well as issues relating to capacity-building and transparency and the fight against corruption and other ways to promote a strong economy for this country." Noting that "the Bank is trying to help create an environment that provides job opportunities and eliminate unemployment and a focus on the youth. "noting that" many young people are eligible to enter the Iraqi market. " Revealed Helen that "there is a plan to restructure the Rafidain and Rasheed to contribute to the creation of financial and banking sector better in Iraq contributes to the promotion of investment and provide an ideal environment." Afterthought "should there be a banking sector active in Iraq, but we Ntanaj to cooperation by the party return. " On the issue of deletion of zeros from the currency "I think that this may have been in Turkey and will not have any effect, either positive or negative.", Adding: "But if what has been implemented correctly and I mean here properly is to keep the same purchasing power of the currency after deletion of zeros if there was a thousand dinars, and after deletion of zeros has become a must for this dinars dinar to have the same purchasing power of one thousand dinars. "/ 4 Updating :: 17/05/2012 12:24

Basic redenomination description.

current example - bottle of coke = 1000 dinar, bought with 1000 dinar note.

after delete 0's - bottle of coke = 1 dinar, bought with 1 dinar or 1000dinar note( dinar to have the same purchasing power of one thousand dinars.)

[Realdinar]

Funniest thing is all the RVers who keep poking in here to defend him because they don't like my stance on the "RV". Totally typical and comical.

I havent seen anybody defending anybody here. Talking about delusional. Dave can we get a bold and big font "wow".... Oh my bad, you are biased and only read writings from a professor.

PS. Im brilliant and I just dont see iraq lopping.

[jackster]

World Bank..... Helen Maria confirmed the Special Representative of the World Bank, "The strategic relationship with Iraq will be extended from 2012 until the year 2016." Indicating that "this strategy is not only in Iraq but in several countries." Said Helen during her visit to Muthanna province today, "There are agreements and negotiations with the central government to identify the joints and the details of this strategy." Noting that "the World Bank will consider the special nature of this country in order to identify important points about this strategy." Afterthought, "but in general." She added that "this strategy will emphasize topics the development of macro-economic growth and development as well as issues relating to capacity-building and transparency and the fight against corruption and other ways to promote a strong economy for this country." Noting that "the Bank is trying to help create an environment that provides job opportunities and eliminate unemployment and a focus on the youth. "noting that" many young people are eligible to enter the Iraqi market. " Revealed Helen that "there is a plan to restructure the Rafidain and Rasheed to contribute to the creation of financial and banking sector better in Iraq contributes to the promotion of investment and provide an ideal environment." Afterthought "should there be a banking sector active in Iraq, but we Ntanaj to cooperation by the party return. " On the issue of deletion of zeros from the currency "I think that this may have been in Turkey and will not have any effect, either positive or negative.", Adding: "But if what has been implemented correctly and I mean here properly is to keep the same purchasing power of the currency after deletion of zeros if there was a thousand dinars, and after deletion of zeros has become a must for this dinars dinar to have the same purchasing power of one thousand dinars. "/ 4 Updating :: 17/05/2012 12:24

This is the second time you've posted this exact same thing. Cut and pasted it twice. And your added comment on the first one was "No lop"

An RD is called a neutral event. Neither positive or negative. Today 1000 IQD buys what later 1 IQD will buy, after the 3 zeros a removed.

Exchanging IQD for dollars today is at US$0.00086. After RD, US$0.86.

One Iraqi dinar will buy what it took 1000 dinars to buy. 1 million IQD today will exchange for $860. After RD, 1 million IQD will equal 1000 IQD and be exchanged for $860. The sad thing is people are paying (exchanging) around US$1,080 for something that is worth only $860.

For the average Iraqi, the removal of 3 zeros will not lower the purchasing power of their money. Neither will it go up in purchasing power. However, if someone bought IQD and expected their 1 million dinar to be exchanged for 1 million dollars, but can only get $1000, then that is a huge LOP.

Iraqi citizen. No LOP.

IQD speculator. Big LOP.

[jackster]

I havent seen anybody defending anybody here. Talking about delusional. Dave can we get a bold and big font "wow".... Oh my bad, you are biased and only read writings from a professor.

PS. Im brilliant and I just dont see iraq lopping.

20Million seems to have a pretty good grasp on the IQD speculation and currency trading in general. That professor you referenced studied redenominations.

People who have degrees, experience, knowledge are discredit in this forum. People that do this for a living are discredited because they did not purchase any IQD.

A good majority of Pro-RVers only believe the posters that do this as a part-time hobby. They are amateurs at best. And I do not mean that in a derogatory way. Compare it to playing on your local baseball or softball team. You're good at what you do, but you're not considered a professional player.

I understand hoping for the RV. A 1:1 RV within the next 3 months would be tremendous victory for many in here.

RealDinar, if you're hoping that every 1 million IQD will be worth $1 million, the current news would say that it won't happen. Not even $10,000. Even $3000 would be a stretch.

I would rather listen to a professor that has studied international finance and economics than the cashier at Wal-Mart who has studied this subject for the last 9 years via a forum or blog.

[easyrider]

LMAO @ this thread lets argue till the end of time to see if their gonna LOP or NOT LOP thats gonna get us somewhere right? wrong. Listen most of us are well aware of the LOP but i for one will continue to hold my millions i have and none of you will do a damn thing about it feel better now?

Edited July 12, 2012 by easyrider

[Sanssouci]

Do you people even see the delusion being posted here. Mind control of celebrities? How about cocaine and ecstasy binges for days on end. O no. That can't be it. That's what they want you to think right sackapooey? Haha....you are total joke.

Sucker. You're so gullible. I could say anything off the wall, and you would believe that I believe it. You have no idea what I believe, but I know what you believe, and it bores me to death.

20Million seems to have a pretty good grasp on the IQD speculation and currency trading in general. That professor you referenced studied redenominations.

People who have degrees, experience, knowledge are discredit in this forum. People that do this for a living are discredited because they did not purchase any IQD.

A good majority of Pro-RVers only believe the posters that do this as a part-time hobby. They are amateurs at best. And I do not mean that in a derogatory way. Compare it to playing on your local baseball or softball team. You're good at what you do, but you're not considered a professional player.

I understand hoping for the RV. A 1:1 RV within the next 3 months would be tremendous victory for many in here.

RealDinar, if you're hoping that every 1 million IQD will be worth $1 million, the current news would say that it won't happen. Not even $10,000. Even $3000 would be a stretch.

I would rather listen to a professor that has studied international finance and economics than the cashier at Wal-Mart who has studied this subject for the last 9 years via a forum or blog.

Therein lie the problem, and this was the gist of my original post in this thread: You are slaves to the media, and that is the choice you make.

[caz1104]

LMAO @ this thread lets argue till the end of time to see if their gonna LOP or NOT LOP thats gonna get us somewhere right? wrong. Listen most of us are well aware of the LOP but i for one will continue to hold my millions i have and none of you will do a damn thing about it feel better now?

How true!

[Sanssouci]

LMAO @ this thread lets argue till the end of time to see if their gonna LOP or NOT LOP thats gonna get us somewhere right? wrong. Listen most of us are well aware of the LOP but i for one will continue to hold my millions i have and none of you will do a damn thing about it feel better now?

As will I. Dinarck is merely an easy target.

[dinarck]

Sucker. You're so gullible. I could say anything off the wall, and you would believe that I believe it. You have no idea what I believe, but I know what you believe, and it bores me to death.

Therein lie the problem, and this was the gist of my original post in this thread: You are slaves to the media, and that is the choice you make.

Nice attempt to back peddle out of your delusional statements. First you said the unabomber was under CIA mind control and were totally serious. That proves you believe the CIA uses mind control. Then you said the stupidest thing I have ever read on this site and you completely believe it because you are a conspiracy nut case. I no longer need to prove that you are a delusional half wit. Your own words do that for me. Go watch some more you tube videos so you can remain scared of your own shadow.

[DaveD]

Therein lie the problem, and this was the gist of my original post in this thread: You are slaves to the media, and that is the choice you make.

Again. Please tell us what you think about the value of the dinar and from what source you derive that opinion.

You refuse to answer the question. The only thing you have stated in this thread was a similarity to Germany. Well... Germany lopped.

[caz1104]

20Million seems to have a pretty good grasp on the IQD speculation and currency trading in general. That professor you referenced studied redenominations.

People who have degrees, experience, knowledge are discredit in this forum. People that do this for a living are discredited because they did not purchase any IQD.

A good majority of Pro-RVers only believe the posters that do this as a part-time hobby. They are amateurs at best. And I do not mean that in a derogatory way. Compare it to playing on your local baseball or softball team. You're good at what you do, but you're not considered a professional player.

I understand hoping for the RV. A 1:1 RV within the next 3 months would be tremendous victory for many in here.

RealDinar, if you're hoping that every 1 million IQD will be worth $1 million, the current news would say that it won't happen. Not even $10,000. Even $3000 would be a stretch.

I would rather listen to a professor that has studied international finance and economics than the cashier at Wal-Mart who has studied this subject for the last 9 years via a forum or blog.

Your last sentence is so very true and fits EVERYONE here to a tee. It's what i've stated so many times I can't see straight. I will say this tho being a scholar in anything does'nt make you an expert at anything. I listen to the Kudlow report on occasion and those guys could'nt agree on the color of money let alone economics or trends.

[DaveD]

Your last sentence is so very true and fits EVERYONE here to a tee. It's what i've stated so many times I can't see straight. I will say this tho being a scholar in anything does'nt make you an expert at anything. I listen to the Kudlow report on occasion and those guys could'nt agree on the color of money let alone economics or trends.

So you don't think a group of "so called economic experts" could come to a consensus on whether a currency is 100,000% undervalued or not?

How about a little perspective for goodness sakes. We are not talking about if something will drift up 2 or 3% or down 2 or 3%.