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I hate to say this but they are doing some major stalling over in Iraq. Their holding meetings after meetings, conferences after conferences and their not moving forward fast enough in the direction we want...So my thinking is leaning more and more down the line of an RV. But I'm crossing my fingers big time and hoping not.

The ones who are suffering are the little people of Iraq. :(

Lets see what Adam mentions on his chat tomorrow. ;)

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So we know that we need the HCL,Ch 7.................Are we looking at another year perhaps?

A very real possibility although I think they really need it now to accomplish all they SAY they want to do. The question is....Do they really care? The people in power there are already rich, and it seems that most of them could care less about anyone other than themselves. What a shame.

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I vote for this year. HCL & 7 are close (though elusive), and they are missing huge revenues by not having an RV and implementing Tariffs. I would imagine there are huge internal and international pressures being placed upon them to get it done.

A very real possibility although I think they really need it now to accomplish all they SAY they want to do. The question is....Do they really care? The people in power there are already rich, and it seems that most of them could care less about anyone other than themselves. What a shame.

Agreed

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I disagree, we dont NEED those things atall. all that needs to happen is they stop acting like children an stop arguing. and the CBI just says right ok were altering currency rate for the people and country of iraq because we are sick of your silly power games. once it RV no of the issues you speak of or ever get brought up will matter because they will all get more than they could ever want in terms of money and investment in Iraq.

Al it is a few old men with insecurity issues arguing who is charge nothing more.

It will RV, it has to to support the massive amount of oil in the region, infrastructure, investment and economy of getting that oil out of there.

All my opinion, from common sense.

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I disagree, we dont NEED those things atall. all that needs to happen is they stop acting like children an stop arguing. and the CBI just says right ok were altering currency rate for the people and country of iraq because we are sick of your silly power games. once it RV no of the issues you speak of or ever get brought up will matter because they will all get more than they could ever want in terms of money and investment in Iraq.

Al it is a few old men with insecurity issues arguing who is charge nothing more.

It will RV, it has to to support the massive amount of oil in the region, infrastructure, investment and economy of getting that oil out of there.

All my opinion, from common sense.

You have a somewhat valid point, BUT without at least HCL there can be no agreement on who gets what (or who pays who from the oil companies who want to extract resources). Then you still have the problem of defending the country without WMD (Iraq has some bad neighbors). All of this can be completed within a day-or-two, we just need the right day. IMHO biggrin.gif

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I haven't renewed my VIP because of this barrier of meetings and more meetings to come, it seem as though no one wants to be responsible for freeing the little people of Iraq so we meet. Peace! In the Middle East. :blink:

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A good friend sent this to me ... and it made sense to me, so I am sharing it here.

Retired Judge on

THE DINAR & DONG / RV

A Very Interesting Read

NOTE: A new banking system is ready...the us treasury bank system (resurrected) to go online.

A list of those banks should be made available during announcements following the 'collapse' of the Federal Reserve System. Also, a 'planned' interim governing body will step forward, and also be announced in the..........

If you are tired of all the guru's info and you are confused as to what is and what isn't....

this email I got may help you....its from a retired judge. Enjoy!

INTERNET GURU'S - BASIL III COMPLIANT

Remember the old PROVERB: 'Knowledge is power?'

Well all of you Dinarians need to 'power-up' and understand a few things that these Internet Guru's obviously do not! The RV [revalue] isn't just about Iraq and the Dinar or Vietnam and the Dong.

The RV is an international matter, which does not necessitate; require or focus upon Maliki or Shabbi's permission or the United Nations approval or acknowledgment.

For those of you who do not research history, government, law and politics:ISRAEL is the Puppet Master. They pull the strings and call the shots of the Criminal Cabal and have been in control of the United States Corporation since 1913.

'Those who do not know their past are condemned to repeat it.'

George Santayana

The Chinese have no designs on World Domination and still they are responsible for championing the RV internationally. Seventy one Countries opposed the RV because it meant the destruction of their FIAT based currency and government. All of those Countries are United Nations members. Now isn't that curious?

The balance of the 194 Countries who are not United Nations members, voted in favor of the RV because they are tired of selling their goods and services internationally, in exchange for worthless paper [or] script, a/k/a FIAT currency!

The RV is all about forcing all Countries who wish to trade internationally, to make their currency [asset backed] or BASIL III compliant! BASIL III means currency guaranteed by gold, silver or some other measurable asset accountability: [e.g.] NO MORE Bonded Promissory Notes drawn against government issued birth certificates [or] currency backed by counterfeit Liens [or] Bonds simply created out of thin air, which is the reason why the Euro is on the verge of collapsing right now!

You all know about America's NATIONAL DEBT and heard the arguments about how our government leaders have squandered the labor and assets of future generations for centuries to come!

Now here's the truth about that argument:

America is a FIAT or debt based government and economy, and in order to stabilize a FIAT system, it is necessary to PERPETUATE DEBT and never pay it off! Hence, the reason why Congress refuses to be held to a balanced budget and the reason for our military involvement in so many foreign wars! Even a high tax structure helps to perpetuate debt, especially when 100% of your tax dollars are exported out of the United States! And I bet you thought your taxes ran the government and wars were all about stopping Communist aggression! In the minds of our government leaders: 'War and taxes are good for business!' Spoken like a true sociopath!

Debt represents a negative number and in America, debt is perpetuated with the use of promissory notes called: 'Federal Reserve Notes.' The Federal Reserve is neither Federal nor is it a Reserve. It is a privately owned foreign corporation and is also known by the name: The Bank of International Settlements. The Federal Reserve Corporation is owned and controlled by a group of Sabbatean Jewish Bankers based in Israel. America's NATIONAL DEBT is actually Israe's Debt but we all have been taught that it is America's obligation and responsibility, with the use of clever patriotic slogans like:

'This is the cost of Freedom!'

You've got to love those patriotic slogans!

The NATIONAL DEBT is a trick bookkeeping entry, which does not involve any real assets because a real asset entry would immediately cancel the debt. Under the Uniform Commercial Code, promissory notes such as a Federal Reserve Note, is defined as a: 'Negotiable Debt Instrument' and so the National Debt of America is based entirely upon these negotiable debt instruments. In retrospect, America's National Debt can be cancelled at any time with an asset bookkeeping entry and the payment of one dollar of solid gold or silver!

A positive cancels a negative, even when the negative is in the trillions. It's basic Algebra!

I sent this to a friend of mine and he questioned my math because he is old school and my math didn't make sense to him! So I wrote back to him with this example and explanation:

If you add [-1 and +1] what is the sum? The answer is [0] because each cancels the other out.

Now if you add [-34,000 and +1] what is the sum?

The answer is still [0] because each cancels the other out.

Here's the trick: [-1] can be broken up into

-35,000 pieces or more but when all those pieces are glued back together ,

you still have nothing more than the original [-1].

In Mathematics, [0] = [0] and anything less than [0] is still [0]. Algebra on the other hand, dissects that result and theorizes the possibility of negative numbers having values. The National Debt represents negative numbers that appear to have values!

The Federal Reserves bookkeeping system conceals this simple truth, which is also known as 'debt slavery' and to complete their circle of fraud and slavery, the American public must be trained to believe that 'Federal Reserve Notes' have real value! This was accomplished by and through forced public education! Our government officials concluded that under these conditions the American public could be taught to believe anything we choose [and] our Licenses and Diplomas are proof of their success!

PS/ Don't look in Fort Knox for that gold dollar because there isn't any gold there! America's gold was embezzled by previous federal government leaders during their planned Great Depression of 1933, however one dollar of any currency that is BASIL III Compliant can cancel the Israeli / American National Debt and this is why the United Nations membership is so vehemently opposed to the international revalue of currency. Many member Countries have attempted to instigate WWIII in the middle east and Asia, in an attempt to head off the RV. [e.g.] The tsunami in Japan was created by the detonation of an under water A-bomb. Japan's political structure is in revolt and the new faction supports the RV and desires to sever Japan's alliance with the United Nations.

This new FIAT based government for the United States is the real reason why Franklin Roosevelt, issued a Presidential Order in 1933, that directed all American citizens to surrender their gold during the Great Depression [and] why under the Federal Banking Act, the Constitutional control of America's currency and the US Mint was surrendered to the Federal Reserve Board [and] why under the Federal Coinage Act, it became unlawful for American citizens to own solid gold and silver [and] why all American coins are now plated with mixed alloys and filled with charcoal.

Only jewelers can own solid gold, if related to his trade and numismatists are permitted to collect and trade Silver Certificates; solid gold and silver, but the moment they offer any of these in payment of a Federal debt; they have committed a Federal Crime!

BASIL III shall eliminate Israel's debt based strangle hold over America and shall cause all of the Federal Reserve Notes that our politicians and industrial leaders have stolen and or accumulated to instantly become as worthless as used paper.

Imagine Bill Gates and Mitt Romney being as poor as you and me!

The Iraqi Dinar and the Vietnam Dong have received the greatest amount of attention by and from currency speculators because both currencies have the greatest potential to generate huge dividends with the international RV. Both of these currencies had previously been devalued by the World Bank; the IMF and CBI by virtue of the international influence wheeled by the United States, Corp!

The devaluation of currency is a military strategy designed to defeat a Country economically while attacking them physically. Iraqi Dinar's were previously worth 3.22 US prior to their devaluation but I'm not certain what the Dong was worth prior to its devaluation.

Iraqi History:

When the new government for Iraq was installed and approved by the United Nations around 16 months ago, the very first action by the Iraqi government was to petition the United Nations to be released from Chapter 7 Bankruptcy and request permission to freely Contract with other Countries once again. The United Nations agreed to both requests pending the submission and approval of a repayment plan for Kuwait and repayment of all other debts Iraq has accumulated during their occupation and reconstruction. Iraq submitted a plan, which was approved and the Bankruptcy was released and Iraq's first new Contract was with the Soviets, to supply Russia with ten trillion dollars worth of crude over the next five years!

All of the internal politics about Iraq that these Internet Guru's have been writing about has no bearing on the worldwide RV. Their recent comments and Intel about Iraq's Chapter 7 Bankruptcy and their repayment plan holding up the RV is old news and incorrect news. This is all Cabal propaganda and rhetoric being used to transfer attention from the Cabal to Iraq, while the Cabal regroups and grabs at straws to block the RV and save their thousand year plan for World Domination! None of this misdirection will do the Cabal any good but does explain what the RV delay is really all about!

The WHITE HATS have a different plan and schedule in mind, which first involves the collapse of the FIAT governments by and through the international RV; the mass arrests of Cabal members for crimes against humanity; the installation of temporary governments and lastly the release of technology that has been withheld from us under the guise of TOP SECRET! This technology will destroy the oil industries strangle hold on all Countries foreign and domestic and will eliminate their lies and arguments to drill more oil wells in environmentally dangerous and protected venues. PS/ Oil wells never go dry because Mother Earth methodically refills them as crude is pumped out!

Wells can be pumped out faster than the Earth can refill them but they will all eventually be refilled just the same!

The WHITE HATS plan requires that the international RV occur first because the BASIL III compliance regulation will cause the eventual collapse the worlds FIAT governments and cancel their worthless counterfeit currency. So if you're eagerly waiting for the RV to occur, be comforted by the fact that 194 Countries are just as eager for the RV as you! Keep in mind that the Cabals mercenaries are not patriotic souls and do not work for free! If the Cabal cannot hire or pay for their mercenaries, who is left to protect them?

Speculation about the Dinar and Dong have caused most of these Internet Guru's to concentrate only on these two international currencies, absent any real knowledge or understanding about the RV. Their Internet Blog; member following and their personal ignorance, make them an easy mark for disinformation agents who frequently feed them useless Intel about the internal politics of Iraq and Vietnam. Have you ever witnessed any of these Internet Guru's discuss any of the historic; political; monetary or international facts or details I have just elaborated on?

Since the world wide RV is certain to collapse all FIAT based governments, why in hell would any of these Internet Guru's ever recommend setting up any kind of bank account or trust at any of the Federal Reserve Banks? If they had any real intellect, these Guru's, should be recommending off-shore accounts in safe foreign venues. I believe one of these Guru's, actually used the term FDIC insured. For those of you who don't know, the FDIC went Bankrupt around 2006 and not one deposit entered into any Federal Reserve Bank has been insured after that date!

I even recall reading about some Guru recommending a special non-taxable, non-interest bearing, secured account created by Congress, called: 'Tag Accounts.' Well, isn't that special because when the Federal Reserve and the United States FIAT government collapses; so does the monetary system and their regulatory laws called Statutes! [i.e.] Statues are actually corporate regulations and not law! They can only be enforced against sub-corporations, which is why all of our names are all spelled out in capital letters! Still these people who claim to be Internet Guru's continue to offer other investors such irresponsible and ruminant counsel ! Worse still is the fact that there actually are Dinarians in our society who are prepared to blindly follow their stolid advice and risk losing it all!

The only positive comment I can write about these Internet Gurus is that they do perpetuate the American dream and daily bring a small ray of hope into the lives of a people and culture that certainly deserve something better……

Blessings,

Judge Dale, retired

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A very real possibility although I think they really need it now to accomplish all they SAY they want to do. The question is....Do they really care? The people in power there are already rich, and it seems that most of them could care less about anyone other than themselves. What a shame.

Are you talking about Washington or Baghdad?

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