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Camelspiderman · May 12, 2012

Texas granny with much do respect lord dinar is on too something

the last bastion of freedom is the United states , please understand that its all controlled to divide and conquer , dem vs rep , black vs white , etc.....

If we were not using our 2nd ammendment rights this whole world would be North Korea . The Elites hate us , because they are mostly originating from Europe.

This one world Goverment is the truth , and there making a move on us real fast , look at the bills that have passed through goverment lately , its not a joke. there selling us out.

Look at the spending and debt we have , it doesnt matter who is in charge its ridiculous , there doing it on pourpose , there is no other way to explain it .

We cant even vote the man who want to run for president in , look at what there doing to ron paul rite now ...miit romney? like seriously ?

Marshall law comes into effect you will see how bad things are going to be , be prepared is all im sayin.

Do not let your patriotism be your ingnorance on this , once you accept one fact of the big puzzle everything else comes together.

I hope im wrong , I hope im acussed of being crazy and everything will be ok , but you cant unknow something and im really concerned rite now.

LordDinar · May 12, 2012

LD, I have a few questions for you.

#1. If all your conspiracy theories are in fact true - What are you wanting people to do about it? Wake up to reality. Take back our countries.

#2 Are you pushing for Anarchy, Socialism, Communism - What? Freedom 'n Liberty as well as truth

#3 Suppose the citizens of the world unite to oppose the elitists - What then? We will have our world and Freedom

#4 How do you see a new world if there are no Bilderbergs, Rothchilds, Bush's, Clinton's, IMF, World Bank, elitists? Peaceful one and see above

#5 Are you wanting the U. S. to be isolationist? Nope.

#6 See - you have brought all of this "propaganda" to the forum for what purpose - to open our eyes to something YOU think needs correcting OR to stir up citizens of the US against our government (such as it is) Millions of us think it needs correcting...Your Gov isn't in control of the US.

#7 Are you a US Citizen or someone from another country trying to instigate unrest in the US? The PTB want unrest...we will do it peacefully.

I will NOT get into a debate with you over any of the above questions - just curious to see which ones you answer and which ones you dodge.

PS - #7 addition...I am not an American. I am a human. Something that needs to be learned...we are all one.

#6 addition....Since I am only here for short periods, I post some stories to see reactions to them, and if some can wake up from them..great, but I REALLY want people to prove me wrong..I want to be wrong.

**I doubt anywhere in my years posting and waking people up you would find anything promoting violence, as it is not the answer to anything.

We have been lied to for centuries and played like pawns and now you can't travel without getting sexually assaulted or radiated, you no longer have free speech, you are being forced medicated, pensions being cut from people who helped build these countries, our air and water is poisoned, our food is under control of the Elites, your military is being used by the Elites to enact regime change and install Central Banks,

so they can continue to control the money and loot us all in debt slavery, they control the news you watch or read, babies are given numerous vaccines forcefully, Veterans are committing suicide more now than ever before, over 600 "resettlement camps" are set up and ready,

Big brother is watching more than you know, (Hi), Fusion centers in most cities now, and I could add a few hundred more.....yadda yadda.

Non Compliance is the real answer, we don't need "them"...and they know it. Most of the world is waiting, but time is running out.

There is no need for one fellow human to be homeless or starving for food...no need at all. Why are most ignoring them? What did they do wrong? They didn't ask to be born, especially into slavery and debt.

I know it all sounds like a bad Hollywood movie, but it is reality and we only have one planet as of now...time to take it back.

Thanks for the questions TG, I don't dodge any questions, so feel free to ask anything, I will reply. There are many people here with great knowledge who are awake and it is good to see the list growing.

In'Lakesh

Edited May 12, 2012 by LordDinar

HughJeffin Byrd · May 12, 2012

PS - #7 addition...I am not an American. I am a human. Something that needs to be learned...we are all one.

#6 addition....Since I am only here for short periods, I post some stories to see reactions to them, and if some can wake up from them..great, but I REALLY want people to prove me wrong..I want to be wrong.

**I doubt anywhere in my years posting and waking people up you would find anything promoting violence, as it is not the answer to anything.

We have been lied to for centuries and played like pawns and now you can't travel without getting sexually assaulted or radiated, you no longer have free speech, you are being forced medicated, pensions being cut from people who helped build these countries, our air and water is poisoned, our food is under control of the Elites, your military is being used by the Elites to enact regime change and install Central Banks,

so they can continue to control the money and loot us all in debt slavery, they control the news you watch or read, babies are given numerous vaccines forcefully, Veterans are committing suicide more now than ever before, over 600 "resettlement camps" are set up and ready,

Big brother is watching more than you know, (Hi), Fusion centers in most cities now, and I could add a few hundred more.....yadda yadda.

Non Compliance is the real answer, we don't need "them"...and they know it. Most of the world is waiting, but time is running out.

There is no need for one fellow human to be homeless or starving for food...no need at all. Why are most ignoring them? What did they do wrong? They didn't ask to be born, especially into slavery and debt.

I know it all sounds like a bad Hollywood movie, but it is reality and we only have one planet as of now...time to take it back.

Thanks for the questions TG, I don't dodge any questions, so feel free to ask anything, I will reply. There are many people here with great knowledge who are awake and it is good to see the list growing.

In'Lakesh

Of course that much truth would be negged... tried to even you out.

DinarDiva007 · May 12, 2012

LD I for one am grateful you bring this info to light. I always suspected things are not as they 1st appear. Once you let the genie out you cant put it back in the bottle. You can never not know again. As TG asked what can we do about it and there in is the problem. If our elections are really selections and are all illusions which I always suspected they are really what SPECIFICALLY can we do about all this?

You said ... Non Compliance is the real answer, we don't need "them"...and they know it.

I am still at a lost as to how to operate a life without giving in... The nooses are so tight I just do not see the way around it. Unless you go live off the grid on the land with a tent and try to fish a stream to survive. They tag you at birth with a SS#, if you get a job they take taxes right out of your paycheck its getting harder and harder to operate in cash and without a bank account.

Sure you can be non compliant but seriously how??? I am not trying to be difficult and I would love "you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone but from where I sit I just do not see how it is possible.

HughJeffin Byrd · May 12, 2012

LD I for one am grateful you bring this info to light. I always suspected things are not as they 1st appear. Once you let the genie out you cant put it back in the bottle. You can never not know again. As TG asked what can we do about it and there in is the problem. If our elections are really selections and are all illusions which I always suspected they are really what SPECIFICALLY can we do about all this?

You said ... Non Compliance is the real answer, we don't need "them"...and they know it.

I am still at a lost as to how to operate a life without giving in... The nooses are so tight I just do not see the way around it. Unless you go live off the grid on the land with a tent and try to fish a stream to survive. They tag you at birth with a SS#, if you get a job they take taxes right out of your paycheck its getting harder and harder to operate in cash and without a bank account.

Sure you can be non compliant but seriously how??? I am not trying to be difficult and I would love "you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone but from where I sit I just do not see how it is possible.

Non-compliance was the first step... it's a peaceful means of destroying their system based on illusion... the second step is arresting all of these people who have purposely imprisoned humanity and are responsible for their suffering... including murdering, creating diseases, and every other effort to "depopulate" because they know they can't maintain control grid with a growing population... overpopulation is a pathetic myth, there's more then enough resources on this earth, not to mention, they withhold technology like food replicators to maintain this illusion of overpopulation.

jonjon · May 12, 2012

The USA would be in great financial shape if the “Occupy a Joystick” movement was redirected to “Occupy an Occupation”

Quite hating success and embrace your ability to have it. The communist systems only encourage hopelessness.

HughJeffin Byrd · May 12, 2012

The USA would be in great financial shape if the “Occupy a Joystick” movement was redirected to “Occupy an Occupation”

Quite hating success and embrace your ability to have it. The communist systems only encourage hopelessness.

Clever... you sound like you should be a fox news commentator...we've had enough of the elitist rhetoric thanks...once we level the playing field, I'm all for working hard and EARNING your worth...until then, it's a rigged system and all about "who you know"...not the way life is intended to be.

blugrass60 · May 12, 2012

As far as bush being a war criminal.. eh, idk. Ive read amd watched a lot of things that would potentially lead one to gove pause on the subject matter. But idk. However, there is a much simpler way to look at, well, all of this. Ok, we have what some would call conspiracy theories presented by lorddinar. His posts are to gauge reactions and open minds.. Whether you believe them to the letter probably isnt the point. If you take a look at the world, the whole world, not just your own, or your own town or neighborhood, you should see tye truth. That truth is that things are not working. There is pointless, endless war. Hatred. Starvation. Homelessness. Financial collapse. Diseases that are not getting cured. Racial conflict. Upheaval. Etc These are not signs of humanity succeeding or growing. Some could point out little things that may get better, but over all, things as they are, are not working for the advancement of this civilization. And more to the point here, things shouldnt be going that way. We as a people, and those that supposedly lead us coud be doing a better job. There has got to be a better avenue and objective, logical reasoning, and maybe Occam's Razor thrown in for good measure would dictate that there is.

It isnt going to be an 'ism' for that matter.

So, could there be a dark cabal, or easier to digest, a bunch or rich, greedy people that believe their place is standing above the rest of us? Yes.. that is not hard to believe. I dont k.ow the specifics, but its possible that it could be laid out here for all ofbus to read. Or maybe not. We could simply live that messed up of a world where things have progressed to where they are now on their own. Idk. But things arent working, and they could and should be.

Peace.

cris · May 12, 2012

Non-compliance was the first step... it's a peaceful means of destroying their system based on illusion... the second step is arresting all of these people who have purposely imprisoned humanity and are responsible for their suffering... including murdering, creating diseases, and every other effort to "depopulate" because they know they can't maintain control grid with a growing population... overpopulation is a pathetic myth, there's more then enough resources on this earth, not to mention, they withhold technology like food replicators to maintain this illusion of overpopulation.

I think the question is......Define non compliance

I'd like to know too.....In a hundred words or less

jonjon · May 12, 2012

They were apologetic about Saddam’s crazy and savage acts. They were all repeating the same thing, “He invaded you and harmed you for a couple of months. But he destroyed us, killed our families and spirits for 35 years. We were all his prisoners, in fact.”

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HughJeffin Byrd · May 12, 2012

These are the type of things LD and all the truth seekers want to expose...this isn't about changing your mind...it's about opening your mind to reality...this is real life, we are human beings damnit, not cattle.

Johns Hopkins Cancer Update

.Johns Hopkins Update

This is an extremely good article.

Everyone should read it.

AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY ('TRY', BEING THE KEY WORD) TO ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHNS HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY .

Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins :

1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size.

2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person's lifetime.

3. When the person's immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from multiplying and forming tumors.

4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has nutritional deficiencies. These could be due to genetic, but also to environmental, food and lifestyle factors.

5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet to eat more adequately and healthy, 4-5times/day and by including supplements will strengthen the immune system.

6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastrointestinal tract etc., and can cause organ damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs etc.

7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and organs.

8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor destruction.

9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.

10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites.

11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it needs to multiply.

*CANCER CELLS FEED ON:

a. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc. are madewith Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute

would be Manuka honey or molasses, but only in very small amounts. Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in

color Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea salt.

b. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with unsweetened soy milk cancer cells are being starved.

c. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-baseddiet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little other meat, like chicken. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer.

d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).

e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer fighting properties. Water-best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.

12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines becomes putrefied and leads to more toxic buildup.

13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.

14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Flor-ssence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the bodies own killer cells to destroy cancer cells.. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.

15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit.

A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor. Anger, un-forgiveness and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.

16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.

1. No plastic containers in micro.

2. No water bottles in freezer.

3. No plastic wrap in microwave..

Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in its newsletters. This information is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well. Dioxin chemicals cause cancer, especially breast cancer. Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plastic bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic. Recently, Dr Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital , was on a TV program to explain this health hazard. He talked about dioxins and how bad they are for us. He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers. This especially applies to foods that contain fat. He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body. Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food. You get the same results, only without the dioxin. So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc. He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper The dioxin problem is one of the reasons.

Please share this with your whole email list.........................

Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.

This is an article that should be sent to anyone important in your life...

They were apologetic about Saddam’s crazy and savage acts. They were all repeating the same thing, “He invaded you and harmed you for a couple of months. But he destroyed us, killed our families and spirits for 35 years. We were all his prisoners, in fact.”

Read more:

Who put Saddam in power? Who was Saddam's puppet master? Who was best friends with Saddam until he turned on his business partner... Oh, Daddy Bush.

DinarDiva007 · May 12, 2012

I think the question is......Define non compliance

I'd like to know too.....In a hundred words or less

Thank you cris when i read his reply i thought well that still doesnt help me. i want to know step by step what that means...

* Is it stop paying taxes?

* Is it quit my job and live off the land?

* Is it take up arms in Montana?

* Something else?

I am not trying to be a smartA** I am trying to understand.

HughJeffin Byrd · May 12, 2012

Thank you cris when i read his reply i thought well that still doesnt help me. i want to know step by step what that means...

* Is it stop paying taxes?

* Is it quit my job and live off the land?

* Is it take up arms in Montana?

* Something else?

I am not trying to be a smartA** I am trying to understand.

Not using credit cards(this is a debt system, if there isn't constant debt being issued it collapses)... Not paying income tax(it's not law, look it up, and you have the right to enjoy the fruits of your own labor... obviously there needs to be some sort of tax on people for government operation, but not income) ... learning about admiralty law and signing everything above your signature with "Without Prejudice/All Rights reserved" which enables you to have your god given rights and not subject you to commercial law.... protesting things that you know are wrong... things of that nature...

DinarDiva007 · May 12, 2012

Not using credit cards(this is a debt system, if there isn't constant debt being issued it collapses)... Not paying income tax(it's not law, look it up, and you have the right to enjoy the fruits of your own labor... obviously there needs to be some sort of tax on people for government operation, but not income) ... learning about admiralty law and signing everything above your signature with "Without Prejudice/All Rights reserved" which enables you to have your god given rights and not subject you to commercial law.... protesting things that you know are wrong... things of that nature...

HJB thank you for the reply. I agree income tax is not a law but if you want a job you have to give them a SS# and have W-2 income tax withheld. If you do not pay they garnish your wages, take your bank account, your house and so on. Having your passport revoked and the right to buy guns is being tossed around. That is my issue with what you guys say... HOW DO YOU OPERATE A LIFE without caving in to the extortion?

cris · May 12, 2012

Thank you cris when i read his reply i thought well that still doesnt help me. i want to know step by step what that means...

* Is it stop paying taxes?

* Is it quit my job and live off the land?

* Is it take up arms in Montana?

* Something else?

I am not trying to be a smartA** I am trying to understand.

Your welcome....I am a smartA** ......but i believe the quote

from a famous American......Point out the absurd by being absurd

I also believe we can substitute an entire corrupt Govt this Nov.

Constitutional Conservatives will be running the Senate & House

after the elections. There is no need for anarchy

Be sure to vote Republican, thats where the Conservatives are.

Some Demo's may say they are conservative....do not believe

them......They've been lying for 20 years, sneaking into office

and showing their Liberal tendencies.

Also, just remember, Ron is a Republican. But so is Mitt.....It looks

to me that Romney is going to be our candidate, and I believe we

can hold him to Conservative principles

With that all said, I would still like to know how to affect

non compliance

Not using credit cards(this is a debt system, if there isn't constant debt being issued it collapses)... Not paying income tax(it's not law, look it up, and you have the right to enjoy the fruits of your own labor... obviously there needs to be some sort of tax on people for government operation, but not income) ... learning about admiralty law and signing everything above your signature with "Without Prejudice/All Rights reserved" which enables you to have your god given rights and not subject you to commercial law.... protesting things that you know are wrong... things of that nature...

Good answer.....tell us more?

HughJeffin Byrd · May 12, 2012

HJB thank you for the reply. I agree income tax is not a law but if you want a job you have to give them a SS# and have W-2 income tax withheld. If you do not pay they garnish your wages, take your bank account, your house and so on. Having your passport revoked and the right to buy guns is being tossed around. That is my issue with what you guys say... HOW DO YOU OPERATE A LIFE without caving in to the extortion?

I hear ya... Aaron Russo made a documentary called "America: Freedom to Fascism" and he said I'm not telling you not to pay income tax because it's like the mafia, if you don't pay, they will hurt you. But there is always a way you can not play their game, even if it's just being aware of what they are doing and spreading the word... and it's all about doing it on peaceful terms... they want violence, they want chaos, so then they can spin it and create more ridiculous laws... these people need to be arrested and a new transparent financial system needs to be created based on equity, which is the plan...otherwise they will continue their bailouts and keep delaying the inevitable until they can accomplish another false flag... also this needs to be done to stop violent revolutions from breaking out all over the world... “Those who make peaceful protest impossible make violent protest inevitable.” - JFK

If you really want to piss them off, you could copyright your strawman by filling out a UCC-1 form and discharge all your debt... that is the ultimate form of non-compliance.

LordDinar · May 12, 2012

Not using credit cards(this is a debt system, if there isn't constant debt being issued it collapses)... Not paying income tax(it's not law, look it up, and you have the right to enjoy the fruits of your own labor... obviously there needs to be some sort of tax on people for government operation, but not income) ... learning about admiralty law and signing everything above your signature with "Without Prejudice/All Rights reserved" which enables you to have your god given rights and not subject you to commercial law.... protesting things that you know are wrong... things of that nature...

Thanks Hugh, had to run out for groceries (paid cash).

Great replies, I see people still confuse the "occupy" movement with the truth movement,

but that's ok..the OWS movement can still be awakened further and taken back from the infiltrators.

As for the Cancer, how do people feel if they know their loved ones didn't have to die from Cancer..

it should get them pissed off and researching. Chemo is just more money in Rockefellers purse.

People complain about no jobs and China this, China that...STOP SHOPPING AT WALMART/doller stores.

Stop any use of credit cards is number one...and tax is fine if it goes to our own country.

Maybe time to re-post the "Obama Deception" and "Endgame" for a start..

thanks for filling in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2Bu9vrN6zY

Edited May 12, 2012 by LordDinar

TexasGranny · May 12, 2012

Not using credit cards(this is a debt system, if there isn't constant debt being issued it collapses)... Not paying income tax(it's not law, look it up, and you have the right to enjoy the fruits of your own labor... obviously there needs to be some sort of tax on people for government operation, but not income) ... learning about admiralty law and signing everything above your signature with "Without Prejudice/All Rights reserved" which enables you to have your god given rights and not subject you to commercial law.... protesting things that you know are wrong... things of that nature...

So, let me guess - since you advocate not paying income taxes - then you obviously don't pay yours - RIGHT! Put it right out there because IRS wants to know!

I'm sorry but you people have no friggin idea what you are asking people to do - I do not want to spend my final years in prison because I didn't pay my taxes! Wesley Snipes tried it and guess where he is! Oh and just try doing anything without a credit card of some form or fashion. I agree we should not LIVE on them, but you can't rent a car or rent a hotel room without one even if you do pay cash. You still have to have one just to get the car or reserve the room.

Also LordDinar did not answer my question - What do you want people to do once they are awake to all of the horrors that you talk about. All your propaganda does is scare people. You give nothing of substance for people to use as a guide. Stirring people up against their own government only leads to violence and turmoil if you don't follow up with logical and responsible actions people can take to make change. If you truly want to make change, then start by putting legitimate ideas to the masses. But don't tell them they can do things that will destroy their lives.

Oh, and as an American Citizen, I do not have a lot of trust in words coming from people that are not citizens of our country - Why you ask? Because most of them are out to destroy our country and our freedom. For those of you that are citizens, I suggest you get off your duff, away from your computer and work in your local area to make changes. Get rid of the old guard politicians and put people in that truly want our country to be free.

rightsonword · May 12, 2012

I agree that there are things going on behind the scenes. I listen to Alex Jones regularly and research this and that. But I try to find ways to stick it to people who try to use me. Regarding credit cards, yes, they are bad for the average person. For me, I use my credit card for everything and pay the balance off in full at the end of the month so I'm not charged any interest and then I get cash back. So, I profit, they lose. Only bad thing is that my purchases have a paper trail, but eh, if they want to see my monthly groceries, utilities and gas be, whatever. i made my money off of them.

Oh, and as an American Citizen, I do not have a lot of trust in words coming from people that are not citizens of our country - Why you ask? Because most of them are out to destroy our country and our freedom. For those of you that are citizens, I suggest you get off your duff, away from your computer and work in your local area to make changes. Get rid of the old guard politicians and put people in that truly want our country to be free.

I'm American and I agree with LordDinar and others. I'm not out to destroy my country, so your point is moot, especially since this is a global problem, not simply an American one. Also, reasonable minded people are not gong to riot, otherwise we'd be seeing it. By waking up the public, secret issues are brought to light and the elite likely abandon their plans. For example, the internet bill SOPA was defeated after major public outcry from people like Alex Jones (or anyone who spreads the word) and others who spread these truths. When the truth is know we can resist it. Resistance doesn't mean violence.

And I agree, we need to put people in that truly want our country to be free. So, I assume you're voting for Ron Paul and not Romney who is financed by the very banks who put us in the mess we are in and have controlled politicians for the last 100+ years?

cris · May 12, 2012

I agree that there are things going on behind the scenes. I listen to Alex Jones regularly and research this and that. But I try to find ways to stick it to people who try to use me. Regarding credit cards, yes, they are bad for the average person. For me, I use my credit card for everything and pay the balance off in full at the end of the month so I'm not charged any interest and then I get cash back. So, I profit, they lose. Only bad thing is that my purchases have a paper trail, but eh, if they want to see my monthly groceries, utilities and gas be, whatever. i made my money off of them.

Now thats the way to stick it to em'

Working in their system

Edited May 12, 2012 by cris

jonjon · May 12, 2012

With that all said, I would still like to know how to affect

non compliance

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